User talk:IvoShandor/Archive May 2007

Rock Springs Massacre

Hi, I've had a quick look at the intro (see the history). I did some rewording just to make the language flow a bit better, if there's anything that you disagree with, let me know - I don't want to mess up a rather nice-looking article! I'll keep going through it tonight once I've done some more study for this university degree I'm supposed to be working towards... Wikipedia is more fun than quantum physics. Cricketgirl 13:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm just finishing going through the article - should be done in about ten minutes. What does rawk mean? Or is that an attempt at Australianising 'rock' :) Cricketgirl 15:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the shiny Barnstar! My first one... I feel so proud. Right, the article is done now - I posted two comments on the talk page which might be worth a look. Happy editing! Cricketgirl 15:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I have coordinates from two sources that place the Camp Pilot Butte, where the US Army troops were garrisoned at the Union Pacific railroad facilities NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES INVENTORY NRHP Nomination Form. From that website and this one (RS SCM 1894 Camp Pilot Butte Medical History. The description of Chinatown reads that was about one mile north of the camp and would be across the railroad tracks which are visible in Google maps of the area. Several small bridges are in the area and a main crosses over into the northside of Rocksprings which would be the Chinatown area. On the Wikimapia map, you can see another user scoped out the UPRR depot along with the old town Rocksprings, the old city hall and perhaps even the church which is alluded to as being built after Chinatown was burnt down. |41.587033|-109.220000 . These coordinates can be displayed at buildscale. When my brain is not mush (later next week) maybe I can find a historic map at a US site I have on maps.

I will place this analysis on the article talkpage if you concur. Ronbo76 18:09, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I will place the crosshairs over the depot. If you feel that my analysis is correct about where Chinatown lies, I will leave a set of coordinates on the talkpage which you can copyedit over the depot coordinates. Ronbo76 16:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I am re-working it right now. I discovered in the short time I left the message here that my coordinates were off a couple of miles due to the raw geodetic coordinates used in nomination form above. I just discussed it on the article talkpage. I now know fairly definitely that the SCM Catholic Church is the church mentioned in several historical accounts. Ronbo76

Don't know if you want to weave the coordinates discussion into the article. If I were to write it, it would read sometime like this (and be referenced by the NHRP nomination form) into the outcome section:

"Meanwhile in Rock Springs the situation was still unstable, although the uprising was over. Governor Warren found troops difficult to secure but on the night of September 5, pursuant to Special Orders Number 86, Department of the Platte, September 5, 1885, two companies of troops of the Seventh United States Infantry arrived in Wyoming Territory. One of them, under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Anderson, was stationed at Evanston. The other, under the command of Colonel Chipman, was stationed at Rock Springs. Colonel McCook at Camp Murray, Utah Territory was then ordered to send six more companies of troops. On September 9, one week after the massacre, the six companies arrived—five from Fort Bridger and one from Camp Douglas. On that day four of the six companies escorted the Chinese refugees back to Rock Springs, where they were lodged in boxcars near the tent encampment of the troops.

(That blockquote is what appears in the nomination form about halfway down). Basically what should be written: As a result of the riot, U.S. Infantry was stationed at Rock Springs as the result of Special Orders Number 86 (referenced). On September 9, four companies escorted the Chinese refugees back to their tent encampment in Rock Springs. (referenced as Ibid.).

BTW, The final sentence should probably read: This encampment became known as Camp Pilot Butte. Ronbo76 17:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Good luck with your article. Ronbo76 16:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It's secret squirrel stuff. If I told you, I'd have to kill you (which is a line in the movie. Ronbo76 17:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Best part is I met the actual female. Ronbo76 17:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Agree. When he flipped on Mimi Rogers, I thought a screw was loose. When he went wacko on Nicole, I knew he was losing it. The Katie Holmes thing really seals the deal. I am extremely glad Penelope Cruz saw the light. And, no, the real deal. I would love to meet Kelly but her star has dimmed in the last view years. Ronbo76 17:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I found a historic map of Wyoming but unfortunately Rock Springs shows up like a blip on small road map even when zoomed in to its location. The full map is at Holt's new map of Wyoming which is a vintage 1883 Wyoming map. I had thought the Library of Congress maps would have had a better detailed map of the area as other maps in the collection. Rock Springs is in the lower left corner of the map (about a fourth of the way from the left edge along the road/railroad and about an eighth from the bottom. Clicking in that area will center the map on the area and the zoom buttons can locate the actual map when you find the town. Rock Springs shows up as a small black rectangle with the railroad passing through it and the river just north of it. I cropped it out but would have to figure out the rights which is probably one of the expired government ones to post it to Commons. I will do that later tonight if you wanna see it. It aint much and probably would not add to the article. Ronbo76 20:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I have not gotten back to you sooner. Have been doing 10 hour days and come home too tired to look at the computer. Last night was pretty sad as I fell asleep in the easy chair slightly after 6 pm. Don't know if I will get the opportunity to look at the article you suggested as this weekend will be all about sleep and recuperation. I have another week of the grind left next week. Thanks, Ronbo76 11:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I wanna go back to bed but gotta hit the shower and get on the road in about an hour. Wah!!!

GA Review

Dear Ivo,

It would be more than welcome - if you could find some time in order to review the Ante Starčević biography - which I nominated as a GA.

Best regards,

--BarryMar 12:34, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

James G. Watt

I removed the dispute tag along with that parasitic essay that, inexplicably, nobody had removed for nearly a year. Gazpacho 06:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply

Just a quick response to the comments you left on my talk page. I think this article, as you suggest, would make a good FAC, its interesting and meets most of the criteria. My only concern about it not reaching FAC is some people might see it as too broad. The discussion of events before the riot specifically lay out the general situation both in Wy and nationally as to why the massacre happended but it might be that these sections appear too long. However if you explain that the information is there to set the context (which should be obvious to most) it shouldnt make a difference. In regards to the post massacre violence I also think that perhaps the section could be more concise - e.g. violence in Washington. Although this information is a great read and it would be a disservice to history to remove it completely, why not consider moving into a new article e.g. like Anti-Chinese violence in Oregon (but in Washington). Insted have a see further tag etc in the springs article. Anyway I think that the following you mentioned are fine:

   * Background/Prior anti Chinese sections: Shorten Background, cut non relevant info in prior section, i.e. people in San Fransisco had a riot before this one)
   * Anti Chinese rhetoric, mrege with outcome, remove irrelevant info (anything not connected to Rock Springs or its immediate aftermath

If you decide to nominate FAC after you have continued to improve, post me a message and i'll support. Regards, LordHarris 13:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your Federal Assault Weapons Ban peer review.

I was beginning to think that no one would show up, thank you for the review. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.242.229.84 (talk) 16:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

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Thanks

Thanks for the review, it's my ultimate goal to get it up to featured status but the prose will probably need to be at least 15-16 kbs, it's currently 9. I plan on expanding it, including investigation details, converting those statements to quotes, and maybe including an aftermath type of section if I can find more on the people he affected from lenders to accomplices etc. Maybe a book will come out or more detailed articles will come out. Like I said the current articles just recap the story with the same details over and over. After that, I'd then try to get a copyeditor to give it a c/e and go for FA. So yeah, I have high hopes for the article and you'll hopefully see more out of it in the future. Quadzilla99 13:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup

Thanks for the tip. Countedx58 15:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Photos for WP:NYC

I'm terribly sorry, I wasn't able to get into the city this weekend. Perhaps next, but as I set in gear for the end of school, it may be tough. Sorry if this is a priority for you – I will get to it eventually, but I'm really busy in real life. Hope this isn't putting any major projects on hold. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The Motels

Thanks very much for your insight and editing of "The Motels" article. A lot of the info was there before I started editing and I've just been adding to it. I knew it needed a helping hand. Wiki says you can add first person cites and some of the info was gleamed from conversations I have with Martha Davis, Marty Jourard and Chuck Wada... I'm not sure how to cite that properly. I don't mean to use independent research, these 3 people would say this to anyone who asks. Your page seems to indicate you are from Illinois... if so you are in luck for concerts. The Motels tour hits the Illinois area Apr 27 @Beverly Arts Center, Chicago, Illinois and Apr 28 @Center for the Arts, Springfield, Illinois. That's a problem with the past/present tone of the article since they still perform. Thanks again and I'll start adding the citations when I dig through the newspaper/magazine articles. Fyunck(click) 03:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Response at WP:NART

If that's the worst criticism I get today, I'm doing pretty good ... thanks for your comments over at the proposed newspaper article guidelines page. I've made a few responses, although in general I agree with you.
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GA R Marquette Building

I have made most of the changes I will make with respect to the GAR. I hope it passes. Thanks for caring enough about the topic to give me improvement advice. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 20:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Ruben M. Benjamin House

On 25 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ruben M. Benjamin House, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 05:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Shields memorial home

Is this place, Shields memorial home, historical or something? I just was curious before I went through the whole tagging process with it.--Kranar drogin 10:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Thanks for the great welcome and all but there was nothing wrong with my edit. Mayorcheese 07:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:Illinois

I often add {{Architecture}}, {{WikiProject National Register of Historic Places}}, & {{WikiProject Illinois}} tags when I am adding {{ChicagoWikiProject}}. However, sometimes I am at a loss for which Chicago articles are Illinois articles as well. For example, there are currently three FA Chicago articles: Barack Obama, Michael Jordan, & Chicago Bears. What things should also have IL tags on them. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 20:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I should have talked to you earlier. I am 3/4 of the way through a bot request to get all pages in Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Categories tagged with {{ChicagoWikiProject}}. It sounds like you are saying everything tagged for WPChi should also be tagged for WPIL. The request has tagge about 5000 pages over the last couple days. Possibly another few thousand will come with the final batch. WPIL should either go to WP:BOTREQ or talk to User:SatyrTN who runs User:SatyrBot who is running the bot for WPChi and get all of your pages tagged. Since WP Chi will be over 6000 pages WP IL should have more if every WP Chi article should also have WP IL tags. However, WPIL has fewer than 4000 pages. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 15:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The numbers may seem a bit inflated because of the categories we are using. For example, we are tagging every athlete who has a category indicating he played for a Chicago team. Thus, a category like Category:Chicago White Sox players with 759 articles generates over 700 new WP Chi tags. The majority of these articles are for players who had modest significance to White Sox fans and will get low priority/importance parameter values in their tags. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The way the bot works is you submit a list of categories, like we did at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Categories. The bot then tags all the articles that don't have the tag already. It can also do things like classify articles as stubs that are using stub tags. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:15, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't run the bot. User:SatyrTN is one of several bot people who would take your list and tailor his bot to your list of categories. He has done several other WPs. here is some of his work. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I am pro tagging. I think your project should make a list of categories that fall under its domain and tag all the articles irregardless of what other projects will be co-tagging them. That is my opinion. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

adminship

Hey. I've seen you edit occasionally, and was wondering if you would like to try a run at adminship. I would gladly nominate you, just let me know of your response, you'd pass no problem.--Wizardman 03:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

No problem, I'll bother again then in a month or so, lol.--Wizardman 03:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Derry City F.C. article peer-review

I'm just letting you know that I have left a comment on the peer-review page regarding my progress with the article. Danny Invincible^Talk|Edits 05:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Central Park West

I haven't forgotten about this. I have a press pass for the Tribeca Film Festival, and that is taking *all* my free time. The good news is I have a new, very expensive camera (you can look at the portraits I've taken at TFF on my User page and see the drastic improvement in quality next to others I took with my point n' shoot) so I'll get some good photos. But we are looking at probably two weeks' time. When I'm ready, I'll go to the link you provided and see which articles have been created and need photographs and will work off of that. I hope you are well - thanks for your great contributions, Ivo. --David Shankbone 15:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

The Holocuast

Article needs addressing due to the fact that it does not address 'Ownership of the Holocaust'. This is a key theme is both the academic community and also culturally. The article goes with one position, being a Jewish tragedy alone, and acknowledging that others died.

Failure to entertain this means that two people will not be even talking about the same event. Motive versus mechanics not even being addressed shows that the article is saying that it was only a Jewish tragedy and that others were killed also. Alexsanderson83 13:09, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

best I can do

-- Ling.Nut 16:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

OK template made, see {{GAMedal}}. Ling.Nut 16:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

The image on your page is 100px; the template was 75px but I just made it 60. Go look.. Ling.Nut 17:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I htink 60 is too small. JUst changed it back to 75 and changed the image above to 75 as well.... Ling.Nut 17:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

(undent) do you prefer 60 or 75px? Ling.Nut 17:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Stagg Field

Apart from exceptions (post Olympic Bid victory Olympics related articles and a possible continuation of Chicago Landmark) we are now focussing on redlink and WP:DYK eligible stub (1500 character or less) articles. Stagg will not be a conflict. I will be busy wearing my various Chicago hats and not be doing much editing outside of cleaning my own old articles for a little while. You will have no conflict with us or me. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 13:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

if you would like a peer review of this article or other articles before nominating for GA, i would be happy to provide that from the perspective of a significant contributor to both ChiWikiProj and NRHP. i am BRUTAL in regard to grammar, prose, breadth and depth of content, and references.....but your article will be GA-worthy on the first listing. please let me know if you would like anything reviewed.ChicagoPimp 03:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of National Register of Historic Places

The article National Register of Historic Places you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:National Register of Historic Places for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations.

I have also posted a reply at Talk:Rock Springs Massacre. I dont see a need to trim any further. Good work on both the articles and have a barnstar.LordHarris 00:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

		The Epic Barnstar
		For your efforts on Rock Springs Massacre and National Register of Historic Places LordHarris 00:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

do me a favor?

Hi Ivo,

Thanks for the barnstar!

if you're not too busy, can you find all the different pages where awards are listed (should be three or so), and put the GA Medal there? I have to study for finals....

Thanks! Ling.Nut 11:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Put it in as many places as you can, provided that you wouldn't feel guilty/stupid for putting it there (i.e., it doesn't belong at all).. thanks! Ling.Nut 14:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:BAP

Ivo, here is a quick thing I posted to another guy about the award process...

If you think an award nomination has reached the end of a discussion, and there is a clear show of support or objection, you can be bold and pass it and reject it yourself. There's no special requirement for anyone to pass or reject a Barnstar, really. Although remember that, like other things, your decision could be contested at a later date if someone doesn't agree with it. Also, if there is no consensus reached after a period of time, and no-one is contributing to the discussion anymore, then you should archive it under no consensus. Here, I'll write a little guide as to what you should do when each happens:

PASS:

  1. Move the discussion into the current archive at WP:BAP.
  2. Update the Barnstars/Wikiproject Awards page with the new award.
  3. Alert the nominator (on talk page, WikiProject talk page if a Wikiproject award) and tell them that they need to create a template and tag any images with the correct things (as seen on guidelines at WP:BAP).

FAIL:

  1. Move the discussion into the current archive at WP:BAP.
  2. Alert the nominator that there thing has failed.

The reason its been getting a bit overgrown as of late is because I seem to be the only person really maintaining that page. Now that its been nominated for deletion, I have to admit I feel a bit disheartened at the whole affair and I haven't really been paying much attention to it. And I'm not sure where this whole thing it going to go really. This has really got me down about Wikipedia because there's a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon and shouting 'OH DEAR BURECRACY' but the fact is stuff like this needs to be in place, in my opinion anyway. Maybe I'm just not suited to this project :( Smomo 13:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Smomo 17:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: rock springs

Will do, either today or tomorrow. Quadzilla99 12:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Review request

thanks for the response! i will take a deep look at both articles, with a focus on Rock Springs Massacre, since it is a FAC. it will take a couple of days to fully develop my thoughts/suggestions/edits, but that is to be expected for this type of review. i will make simple copy edit changes, and will place my detailed comments on the talk page so that each can be discussed or checked off when complete. btw, i like the talk and archive page because it shows an excellent history of improvements and should help with widespread FAC review. check back in a few days. ChicagoPimp 00:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Rock Springs Massacre

Hi,

The WP:LEDE looks kinda long-ish, don't you think? I'm looking at the article now, but may (or may not) get called away at any minute.. Good work! Ling.Nut 12:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I added a little quote to your article. Will try to look at it more later... Ling.Nut 02:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Proposed Cold War history project

I notice that you had expressed interest in the proposal for a project relating to the Cold War at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Cold War history. The proposal has generated sufficient interest to be considered viable, but the original proposer has been inactive for some time, so no one has been following it. I was wondering whether you, as one of the interested parties, would be interested in establishing the project as an independent entity or possibly as a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. Please indicate your opinion in the comments section here. Thank you for your interest in the subject, and for your timely response. John Carter 21:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Please visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Warlordjohncarter/WikiProject_Cold_War_history. Thanks Crested Penguin 07:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Rock Springs Massacre (from SG)

Hi there. I was wondering if you might lend some outside eyes to Rock Springs Massacre. I have undertaken a major overhaul project since it was promoted to GA and I hope to nominate for FA soon. Right now it just needs some outside perspective and copy editing. I have sort of charted my progress on the talk page, if you want to check out what I have written/thought there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you don't have the time or whatever that's cool. Thanks. IvoShandor 12:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Ivo. I'm not a good copyeditor, but I just made a couple of sample edits to show you some work needed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, sorry havent replied sooner. I will do an indepth peer review this weekend to give some views on the overhaul.LordHarris 13:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

RE:Historic district

No problems. Kranar and I talk a lot so he periodically sends me these things to look at; Historic district happened to be one of them. DoomsDay349 18:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

If there's any other ones I can take a look at point me to them. GA backlog is terrible, and I try to do what I can to fix it up. DoomsDay349 18:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Aye. I'd never pass anything with a trivia section. I'll look into some of those. DoomsDay349 18:44, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll see about that one; seems like it's pretty well into the debate and I'm unsure just how much I could contribute. I might check it out. DoomsDay349 18:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

:) It's really no problem at all. Nice to see that orange box at the top of the page. DoomsDay349 18:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

That's typically the reaction I have to them. It's just fun to know somebody is talking to me. DoomsDay349 19:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rock Springs Massacre

Hi, I have left a few comments on the rock springs talk page. Hope they help. LordHarris 22:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ivor, I'll tag onto LordHarris's remarks. :-) Thanks for the note about my vacation! It hasn't gotten off the ground yet. We've changed our plans 5 or 6 times but I believe we're leaving tomorrow! :-) As for the article, I think there is a need for a top-level article about persecution against Asians in North America. That would contain the main "modern criticism/response" bits. But a sentence or two along the lines of the letter quote I added.. that the Chinese did not assimilate, were targets of racism etc., could be a nice conclusion I suppose.... with some references to some modern political or anthropological or whatever thought/criticism. That's just a thought.. Ling.Nut 02:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

(undent) My wife has changed her mind for the third or fourth time about our vacation! Now we might not even go anywhere... I'll be happy to chip in about the "Asian persecution in North America" article.. I also have several other things I wanna do (esp. Battle of Red Cliffs and the several individual Formosan languages), but I can chip in, definitely. The article I emailed you about has some really good images that I bet are public domain, for example... Later, Ling.Nut 15:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyright status of Image:Editorial, harpers weekly 1885.jpg

You may have been unsure about the copyright status of Image:Editorial, harpers weekly 1885.jpg The article on the artist, Thomas Nast, says that he died in 1902, more than 100 years ago, so the image is clearly in the public domain. I have added the {{PD-old}} tag. --Eastmain 01:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Space Interferometry Mission GA on hold

 GA on hold — Notes left on talk page. Nehrams2020 08:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

There are just a few more things that need to be fixed, shouldn't take more than a few minutes. Thanks for the link, I already have it saved in my bookmarks, but I appreciate the effort. Let me know when you're done. This will probably be my last review for a couple weeks, but hopefully this summer, I'm going to devote my time to removing the backlog or organizing some sort of member drive to eradicate it. We'll see how it goes. --Nehrams2020 20:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Barnstars

What is the process after a barnstar has been submitted? I am the submitter for the Bluegrass Barnstar and am unsure on how to proceed from its current state. Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 15:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I intended for it to be a WikiProject controlled award, so I will go ahead and make it so. I appreciate your help! Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk 15:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

massacre

Nothing is set in stone. Conclusion, or no conclusion, both acceptable. I just like nice neat little packages with intro, body conclusion. I assume other people do as well, but still, nothing is mandatory.... If you did have such a conclusion, several facts from other sections would be moved to the concluding section... now my wife wants to go again (sigh). May be leaving soon. :-) Ling.Nut 15:36, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

University of Illinois Observatory

I was bold and archived the GA/R I didn't see any reason to keep it listed any longer. I did the article history deal on the talk page and made one little tweak. Nice work on the article. Quadzilla99 16:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to take a look at Rock Springs today. Quadzilla99 16:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to look at it tomorrow I've been downgrading my Wiki activity the last couple of days, one quick comment is that the lead might be slightly long given the overall length of the article. Quadzilla99 06:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Adopt thing

Will you adopt me please. Tell me about this on my talk page. thanks --Frans Adiesha 11:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

What you mean by clean up? , you meant removing it or someother thing. if you can help on my user page that would be great, hell yeah. help me too build it nicely like san siro stadium.

You've asked me about my intrests in wikipedia.
1. Rap Music*Eminem article
2.Games
3.Soccer
4.Computers *from programs to hardware

So???????????// --Frans Adiesha 18:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey when do we gonna start? Looks like this is goin to be fun. So you have any stuff for me to do? something like homework.--Frans Adiesha 16:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

no no i didn't read a single policy. I'm not here to read policies. i want to act. if you really want me to read those i'll do that sir. reply me soon--Frans Adiesha 06:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey read those policies. I should've read those early. not now. yeah i understand my picture problem now. I'll do that in a proper way. legal way. So what's the next chapter?--Frans Adiesha 17:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey man I just updated my page with few userboxes. you'll be able to understand me if you visit my page. Especially my personality. It's a pleasure--Frans Adiesha 14:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Illinois

Question, have you ever thought about improving Illinois to FA status? I am seeing more and more of the rest of the US States going to FA, do you think we should do this also? I am going to post to Dual too.--Kranar drogin 03:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, any assistance would be appreciated. At least to get it to GA status.--Kranar drogin 19:14, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I have been so busy as of late, that I really haven't had time yet to focus on doing stuff for the Wikipedia. My plan is to model it after Minnesota since it is FA. THoughts on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kranar drogin (talk • contribs) 22:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

Peer Review

Hi Ivo, I left some real comments on Wikipedia:Peer review/University of Illinois Experimental Dairy Farm Historic District/archive1 and made a few copyedits on the article itself. Thanks for all your peer reviews! Ruhrfisch 02:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I have done 100 semi automated peer reviews so far this month and you were the first to thank me on my talk page.

• I found a map of the U of I campus online here which shows the Round Barns etc in relation to the rest of campus. Let me know if you want me to take another look at the article when you are ready. Ruhrfisch 11:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I think the location with regards to the rest of the campus could be a description with the map as a reference (near the Vet complex, etc). No new map is needed then. I ran the script on the Massacre article and pasted the result in the Talk page. I then went back and ran the fixer part of the script (they are separate) which solved the non-breaking space problem. Ruhrfisch 13:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyright problems with Image:Animas12.jpg

An image that you uploaded, Image:Animas12.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems because it is a suspected copyright violation. Please look there if you know that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), and then provide the necessary information there and on its page, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Chupper 16:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

References

I was hoping you could quickly look at the references of Naseem Ashraf. It relies almost entirely on articles from one source. There are a couple blogs and another news site for a couple citations. I was wondering what the guideline would be for this. Considering each news article being quoted from the site is unique, is there an issue to them almost all being from that same website? Regards, LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 00:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

ChAIR FORCE?! How dare you!!! There was some walking involved! And A LOT of standing! I mean, come on... I only spent like 70% of time time in a chair. ChAIR FORCE... please. More like Air Farce. But whatever. Past that, thanks for looking over that article for me. I appreciate your input. --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 06:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, you didn't look at my Bable userboxes. I'm a level 4 for Sarcasm. You can't believe anything I say is serious... unless I'm talking about GA/Rs and AfDs. *wink* --LaraLove^Talk/_Contribs 06:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Venting a bit

Howdie! I just wanted to share the wacky day I've been having, besides all the other odds-and-ends I usually do:

• Special:Contributions/149.4.108.130
• Special:Contributions/149.4.108.154

Yes, he's been reported. Including the abuse to me. Yes, the whole thing is a long and sad story. Quick precis here. Now, are you sure you want to become an admin someday, and deal with this kind of crazy shizzle? ;0 -Ebyabe 18:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Bitter Creek (Wyoming)

Hi - I noticed that you had two incorrect entries in the list of counties that Bitter Creek runs through. Park County and Crook County. Obviously, these are incorrect, since the stream is only 80 miles long, and empties into the Green River in Green River, Wyoming. This is probably an honest mistake - I'll bet both of the counties have Bitter Creeks of their own. I've updated the article, and I'll try to add a bit more information if I can find it, though there probably is little thats not related to the Rock Springs Massacre. There are thousands of these little alkali streams in Wyoming, and nobody gives them a second thought until something bad happens along them. - CosmicPenguin (Talk) 23:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Round Barn

You know, I think I may have a round barn near me. I may have to take a picture of it for this page. Or three maybe.--Kranar drogin 04:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, those round barns look to be in a lot better shape. The one I just happened to see as I drove by on 251, still looked like it was being used. I will drive by it again today. Maybe I can get a photo or two down the road. I guess I would have to ask for permission so they don't think I am some sort of weirdo staking out their house, haha.--Kranar drogin 10:37, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Medal

I think you deserve it. Am I right in seeing no one has awarded you your own award?

		The Good Article Medal of Merit
		For numerous contributions to the Good Article project as well as significant edits to Rock Springs Massacre and the following GA articles: Chana School - DeKalb County Courthouse (Illinois) - Historic district (United States) - Joseph F. Glidden House - National Register of Historic Places - Ogle County Courthouse - - Space Interferometry Mission - Springfield, Illinois - University of Illinois Observatory Regards LordHarris 19:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I didnt mean that no one had awarded you an award (as I gave you a barnstar before) but rather no one had yet given you the medal that you helped propose/design etc. Anyway all the best. LordHarris 20:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Picture Time

You know, it is getting nice out now. I need to start snapping some nice spring pics for the wikipedia. Do you have any requests for this area? Towns or parks or anything? I figure we can start fleshing out Category:Images of Illinois some more. I guess we need to add your Sandwhich pictures to it too I see. Hey, what is this thing on the Category:Images of California page? Should we think about copying our stuff to the Commons for Images of Illinois? Let me know your thoughts. I would like to flesh out the Illinois Cat more. It is coming along nicely though! Better than any other state!--Kranar drogin 05:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

You will have to help me with setting up a Commons Room I guess too. Not sure how to do that yet.--Kranar drogin 05:11, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I will have to figure stuff out with that Commons. Do images that I uploaded here have to be reuploaded over there? Also, if I have them over there can I use them here or do I have to upload them here also?--Kranar drogin 05:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok, I see now. I will have to start uploading there from now on. Then just group them in categories over here once I put them into an article. Oh, and just so you know, I started an image grouping of some of yours from Lebanon, Illinois in case you didn't notice.--Kranar drogin 05:48, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

THink you could get pictures of all the towns and unincorporated areas in your county to add to their pages? I am thinking of doing that for Ogle County, Illinois. Let me know what you think.--Kranar drogin 20:25, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Pluto

I agree that the lead should be a summary of the rest of the article. However, the statement that Pluto is smaller than 7 moons in the Solar System is a piece of trivia, which doesn't deserve its place in the lead section of the article. Perhaps my edit summary could have been clearer.. Bluap 15:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC) (moved from user page Curran (talk) 15:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC))

Reagan - Chicago

Readded see edit summary. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I apologize if going out of my way to notify you of a controversial edit was percieved as rude. Basically, I had added some info ([1] and [2] to Ronald Reagan to show that his affiliation with Chicago was notable enough that it might warrant an importance=low tag. This is the edit I was referring to. I have added further on talk page. I apologize if the placement of either this response or that one offends. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 14:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup

When I made that statement, I meant things like Wikibreak templates, and other talk messages. Thanks. Quatreryukami 14:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Input

Well, Wikipedia is not made of paper, so I think every train station could be placed there. Some are more "notable" than others, however if a government put a train station there it is an indication of notability (we don't have a notability guide for trains or train stations). You should really ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains to get sure, but Wikipedians are more bound to keep an article about a small train station, museum or tv station than a small comic character. You could also create a list of train stations in Illinois or something similar, redirecting the articles there, or keep the articles if the WikiProject Trains has no problem with them, or just send them to deletion to see if the community thinks there are notability problems. -- ReyBrujo 20:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Ghostbusters Discussion Page

Ivo, I'm gonna go and erase Edward G. Nilges' comments from the page to bring it back into order. He invited me to continue the discussion of his 'thesis' via his email but I won't pay him that kind or response... If it did I'd be saying it somehow made it a ligitimate discussion in my eye. You may wish to read some of the amazon reviews of his book "Build Your Own .NET Language and Compiler" to see that he's apparently going into rants and diatribes in that. Thanks for your support, I was wondering if I was the only person who took issue with his weird postings. -Kingpin1055 13:23, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the problem is in the page. It is an advertisement for the film. The fact is that a number of responsible critics saw the film as moronic and moronizing, and a NPOV page would mention this.

You may think you're normal, but you are a vandal and a deviant.

You didn't think ONCE about the needs for example of parents who might not want to expose their kids to the sexism of this movie.

And I suggest you read a book before getting snide about it.

History of Springfield

Thanks for the welcome back.

I saw the work you did on the page already and your comments, and both are much appreciated. I agree with everything, except for the reservations I have about breaking the history up by century. Springfield has not even reached its second century, and centuries seem fairly arbitrary anyway. However, I am not going to worry too much about this aspect until more of the article is written.

I finally made it to the library and checked out a few books, some more useful than others. Obviously having the Powers book is particularly useful, but I will need to return sometime to make use of the references that cannot be checked out. David H. Flint 03:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)