User talk:Jørgen88

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Hello, Jørgen88, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Speedy deletion of Selva Marine[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Selva Marine, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Paste Talk 10:57, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

  • Please see my reply to your question on my talk page. Thank you. Paste Talk 15:47, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Sorry for the much belated reply; the article didn't meet the notability criteria, and the enterprise isnt't likely to be notable in a wiki sense. You may the contest the deltion at deletion review. Lectonar (talk) 08:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

2010 FIFA World Cup qualification - UEFA Group 9[edit]

Please stop adding incorrect non-specific information to this article. It is not certain that the top two teams will go to the World Cup, as the second-placed team may get knocked out in the play-off round. Furthermore, the situation is the same for all nine qualifying groups in the UEFA region, and is mentioned at 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification (UEFA), so why are you specifically targeting Group 9? – PeeJay 00:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not targeting anything, I have my interests in Group 9 because my country is in that group. I read the article, and missed any information about how many teams would go on to the next stage, whether that would be to the play-off round or directly to the World Cup. And only the two top teams gets to go on, the rest is out. THATS the information I want to put up there. Jørgen88 (talk) 00:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
If people want to know the format of the UEFA region qualifiers, they should check 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification (UEFA). Please stop adding unnecessary statements to the Group 9 article. – PeeJay 16:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Its one line of helpful information, why cant you just understand that it improves the article? Theres no need to remove this information. Jørgen88 (talk) 17:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Wrong[edit]

That is Highly incorrect, ATi was Bought by AMD in 2006. Soon after, ATi was Renamed "AMD Graphics Product Division" Internally (Not Externally, But I put it in the page anyway)

The only thing AMD changed was the Brand name for GPUs, it does NOT indicate however that AMD is the one making the GPUs. AMD was a CPU Company before, and they Are a CPU Company now.

ATi still Exists, and is the one making the GPUs. Albeit the GPUs they make are now Branded "AMD"

Don't be fooled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGreatness3 (talkcontribs) 01:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I have problems understanding how in the world you make that assumption. How can ATI still exist, if when all of the engineers, designers and blueprints have been bought by AMD, is under AMD's ownership, is even at AMD's facilities, is branded as AMD, is sold as AMD, and is now a part of the AMD Fusion (which is CPU+GPU)..? Oh BTW, AMD is not a CPU or GPU "maker", they are a semiconductor company, which is all technology related to that, including both CPU and GPU's. Jørgen88 (talk) 01:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


Thats like saying: "Well, Since Naughty Dog and Guerrilla Games were bought by Sony. Sony Must now be making Uncharted and Killzone"

Thats not the case, since you DO see the "Naughty dog" and "Guerrilla Games" Logo, Don't you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGreatness3 (talkcontribs) 01:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Just because a Company is Bought by Another company does not mean that, That company ceases to Exist and its That Company that now makes the Products.

AMD hasn't made a GPU prior to the acquisition of ATi. But Don't take THAT statement the wrong way, ATi is still the one making the GPUs, And always will be.

Also, ATi is still located where they have always been located: Markham, Ontario, Canada. And It doesn't matter what Its sold as, As I've said: AMD only changed the "Name" that you see on the GPU package, It does not mean that AMD is the one making the GPUs.

Its up to every company to chose their way of buying a company, that can be to acquire its technology and make it defunct, like AMD did with ATI, or a company can buy it and let that bought company continue with its old name, staff, brands, etc. ATI does no longer exist, and AMD is now the only ones making AMD Radeon. Its not like when Ford bough Volvo back in the days, Volvo was still Volvo. But Ford could if they wanted to, do as AMD, and close down Volvo and continue making Volvo cars but with another name, like Ford Swede or whatever. Jørgen88 (talk) 01:30, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


Thing is, There is no Evidence that AMD closed down ATi. If they did, there would be news about it: But there isn't.

ATi Still lives, It's just now under ownership of AMD.

And as I've said: The "Brand Name" is just what you see on the Cover of a GPU, It does not mean that AMD is the one making the GPUs.

Thats Also like saying: "Well I see the Nintendo Logo on my Wii game, It must mean that Nintendo made the game!" Though, in Reality it's a Wii game made by a Different Company and is only Liscened by Nintendo.

Let me try to put it in another way. If you changed your name, wouldn't it be strange if someone called you by your old name? Just face it. ATI was bought by AMD, AMD changes the name from ATI to AMD, AMD owns all the stuff it bought, I.E. its AMD. Can't get any clearer than that. I haven't met anyone who thinks thats not reality, until you came along. Jørgen88 (talk) 01:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
There's no need to talk to him/her as he/she does not want to accept the reality. But I assume this user will soon be back with a new username and may leave additional comments here. --Denniss (talk) 02:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok. Im not that experienced with Wikipedia, so I don't know how to deal with this kind of stuff, but I just hope enough people will try to detect when this guy comes around with a new IP/user and starts to edit... Jørgen88 (talk) 02:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
You may have noticed he's back as thegreatness 4 as he tried to remove his geolocation from my post above. --Denniss (talk) 02:23, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I was Merely[edit]

I was Merely Trying to fix the Large Mistakes both of you have made

1:AMD did not Close down ATi Technologies, If they had there would be news About it. 2:AMD Was and still is just a CPU company ( 3:AMD only "Slapped" their Logo on GPUs, It does not mean that they are the ones making the GPUs (Like how you see the Nintendo Logo on a Wii game, But It does not mean that Nintendo made the game, They only Liscensed it).

you were giving The CPU company "AMD" All the Credit and Not to the Real GPU makers: ATi Technologies.

My Edits are Valid. since it showcases that, Indeed, AMD is now in Ownership of ATi. But it is ATi Still making the GPUs. I've Also added in the Detail of "ATi is known Internally as AMD Graphics Products Group"

...*Sigh*, If This doesn't get to you, Then how about this: You allow me to Erase my Geolocation, and I'll Leave the Pages alone. That is if You like my Reasoning here.

I'll Edit the Pages one Last time, Revert them If you like: But look at What I have done closely, You may like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGreatness5 (talkcontribs) 15:52, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a tit for tat, its about guidelines, that you have to follow to make your edits valid. You should give at least ONE reliable source as to why you make the edits you make. As far as I have researched, I find hardly any sources that imply your opinion. Jørgen88 (talk) 16:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

No Sources, Just Facts and perhaps some Common Sense.

There was Never any news that AMD closed down ATi, And as I've said, It dosent matter if the "AMD" Logo is on the GPUs. AMD just payed to have it on there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGreatness5 (talkcontribs) 16:50, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Image descriptions.[edit]

Hello, could you please stop removing image descriptions as you did with GTA V and Assassin's Creed 3. You may be able to see the cover, but people who are blind or have eyesight problems may not. Users with sight problems may rely on screen reader software to read the page to them, a description of what the image is, is of far more use to them than "GTA V Cover". WP:ACCESS is not just about people with disabilities though, its about making Wikipedia accessible and more informative for all. - X201 (talk) 08:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

After all those years I've been an editor at Wikipedia, you're the first to mention disabilities as an excuse for an edit. Imagine if all images on WP had a long description? There would be a total mess. Theres no need to describe every image detail present, but to give a fair amount of information about the object is fine. The best thing to do, is to have no description at all, to simplify the article. Please see Help:Infobox_picture#Using_three_or_four_parameters where it is described how to handle captions under infobox images. Notice how the example doesn't go into detail about Wales's clothes or facial expression, but gives ONLY the essential information. Also see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Captions where I quote: "1. clearly identifies the subject of the picture, without detailing the obvious."... also, see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images and i quote: "Captions should be succinct; more information about the image can be included on its description page, or in the main text." I will revert your edits, return here for discussion before reverting again. Jørgen88 (talk) 09:28, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of the MOS guideline on caption length. And accept the changes.
I must add though, that I feel offended by your opening sentence accusing me of using disability as an excuse. We have all made edits to Wikipedia where we feel we are doing things because we believe them to be the correct course of action, only to find at a later date that we were operating from a wrong viewpoint. - X201 (talk) 11:07, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
That was not my intention to offend anyone, Its just that I've had so many discussions like this before and it's tiring. Cheers. Jørgen88 (talk) 20:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Captions[edit]

You are mis-reading WP:MOSIMAGES/WP:CAP. Yes, "succinct" is a term there, but at the same time, captions should be informative, and there's no size or length metric that is applied to succinct, just that the caption is such. Being able to identify lead characters in a work via their appearance in cover art through a caption is a standard method throughout WP, and keeps the caption succinct. --MASEM (t) 16:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

You cant add any information that you see fit on image captions. For example, if I have a picture of a ship, I write down the name and maybe type of the ship. I dont add color, what propeller its using, what length it is, what the name of the captain is etc. You add the most basic facts. The name and description of the protagonist of a game is considered less useful and therefor shouldn't be added. I'll revert, and please dont start a baseless edit war.

Please note the main caption guidelines regarding this edit dispite:

  • Captions should be succinct; more information about the image can be included on its description page, or in the main text. Jørgen88 (talk) 17:25, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Again, you're misread it. Look at the examples they give. It is still succinct to say "this cover shows the game's protagonist(s)" and it helps the reader while on that page. It would not be succinct, in the case of Bioshock Infinite, to say "the North American cover, which shows the game's male protagonstist in a leather vest and turn of the century grab in front of the game's logo and a burning flag, looking smug and a with a weapon slung on his shoulder." --MASEM (t) 17:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
I've started a section to clarify this on WT:Manual of Style/Captions. --MASEM (t) 17:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
If you want to display the protagonist or any other character from a game, you can add an image and a caption further down in the article, with the protagonist's name under the image as a caption, and have the image next to the section that describes the charter(s) in the article. No need to violate WPMoS. Jørgen88 (talk) 18:53, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
If you remove captions from articles while the RFC is still going (and without it having an obvious concensus) that will be considered edit warring even if it doesn't fall under 3RR, and I will report you to ANI. The captions have been there and should be considered the status quo until a change by the RFC is determined. --MASEM (t) 06:01, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
RFC does not have any weight until an agreement on change of guidelines has been implemented. Until then, the rules and guidelines of Wikipedia stands. And they clearly state how captions in the infobox should be. I will revert your actions according to these guidelines that User talk:Hahnchen removed, which should not be removed until a new agreement is reached. Jørgen88 (talk) 09:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)