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A Barnstar for You![edit]

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Congratulations, JSFarman! You're receiving the Invisible Barnstar because you reviewed 74 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! --Mdann52talk to me! 19:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)



Good work on Judith Newman[edit]

Thanks for all your work on Judith Newman. Now it reads like an encyclopedia article rather than a press release. Don't apologize for all the edits; you systematically found references. I wish more articles I reviewed would get followed up on and fixed. StarryGrandma (talk) 06:15, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, StarryGrandma (talk), I appreciate it! I felt like we Wikipedians needed to rally! (In case you didn't see it -- Wikipedia, What Does Judith Newman Have to Do to Get A Page? - I love that the Wiki article will already exist when the print edition of this story runs tomorrow!) Julie
Please allow me to add my own +1 to what @StarryGrandma: said above. Good job. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 08:09, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk), Thanks so much! And - as it should be - a bunch of editors have jumped in and made the article stronger than it was. NYT hasn't run an update yet, but I'm sure they will soon - psyched to see what it will say. JSFarman (talk) 15:22, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your message on my page. Moncrief did the hard work. I just added some odds and ends. But it's obvious that Newman is notable, so I was happy to contribute. BTW, I thought that Newman's article in the NYT was poorly researched, particularly with regard to her statements about paid editors - she obviously did not talk to any really experienced editors here, or they could have explained to her why paid editing is a very bad idea. And, I find it very annoying that journalists like Newman, who have some understanding of our editorial process, and who use Wikipedia constantly, think it's fun to criticize us so broadly, when we get so much right and are putting together one of the greatest free resources in the world. I guess it wouldn't be much fun to write an article saying "Wikipedia is really great, and if you find a mistake, you can point it out, giving a citation to a reliable source, and let editors here fix it." -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Ssilvers (talk) Major props to you! You had strong feelings about Judith's article, but put everything aside and, with a commitment to neutrality, made the article better. (There's a follow-up running in the NYT soon, and I have no doubt that Judith's been educated about how incredible Wikipedia editors can be.) JSFarman (talk) 00:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh, good. Well, let's see what it says. I still think that Newman ought to read WP:COI regarding paid editing, or even take a look at the wonderful book: Wikipedia – The Missing Manual. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Greg Kurstin[edit]

Hey JSFarman, I've just added the songs you requested on the Greg Kurstin production discography page. You can check it out now. Happy New Year! Chihciboy (talk) 05:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

You rule, Chihciboy (talk)! Thank you so much. Someday I'll learn how to mark up fancy charts, I promise. Happy New Year to you too - hope it's a great one. Julie JSFarman (talk) 15:18, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Judith Newman[edit]

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You are the best[edit]

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A brownie for you![edit]

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Precious[edit]

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challenge and admiration
Thank you, music expert and lover from the Rathskeller, for quality articles on personalities caused by "Oh my god, how can (blank) not have a Wikipedia page?", by challenge (Judith Newman) and admiration (Patti Webster RIP), for serving articles for creation and copy-editing, for "Every article I've ever worked on (COI or not) has been improved by other editors." - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Approving music wiki pages[edit]

Hi! I know you approved my "Rich Kidz" wiki page a few months ago. Would you mind checking over two new ones that I made and move it to the mainspace if they're good to go?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Cherub_(musical_duo) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Magic_Man_(band)

Thank you!

Lisachinny (talk) 15:28, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lisachinny (talk), I moved Cherub to the mainspace, although I deleted that they were associated with MGMT and Chromeo -- I didn't see how they were associated. Please feel free to re-add it if there's a legitimate reason to do so (and it can be sourced). I also changed the wording re: their album from "it will be released" to it is "scheduled" to be released, as release dates can slip. I declined Magic Man. I think it's WP:TOOSOON. Thanks for your contributions! Julie JSFarman (talk) 17:01, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kilgour[edit]

Many thanks for this - I will revert. Kind regards Hugh Wimpole3 (talk) 13:12, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Hugh (talk),
Thanks for getting in touch. I'm happy to help! Let me know if you need any further guidance. Best, Julie JSFarman (talk) 21:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Michael Pritchard[edit]

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Hello, JSFarman. You have new messages at Peter Chastain's talk page.
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Can you please help, discouraged. So little real help.[edit]

I've been working on this page for 6 months - edited it 60+ times. Just seems that no matter what I change the next reviewer criticizes something different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Forte_Tenors

I am autistic, and this is my first attempt at a Wikipedia article. I never knew it would be this hard. With some of what I've seen on here, I thought I'd done a good job, but every reviewer seems to disagree. You are the only one who has been genuinely helpful. Please help.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawillia (talkcontribs) 19:10, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jawillia (talk),
I know how you feel -- I've had a few articles repeatedly declined. Try not to be discouraged -- you have done a good job. Creating an article can be difficult, and sometimes it's just a matter of editing, persevering, and editing some more. I'm glad that I've been of some help
The problem with the article remains the tone. Try including the band members in one paragraph, and don't include more than a sentence about each of them, and reduce the sentence to relevant points only. When you list the events, consider including only the two most prestigious -- Carnegie Hall and the Tree Lighting Ceremony -- as otherwise it seems like a laundry list of accomplishments.
The overall issue is that the article sometimes reads like a press release. Even though it's not your intention, in places the article is written in a promotional style, i.e.: "Having once been laughed at in his audition for the music department at the University of Central Florida, Fernando Varela has now performed in 31 countries across the globe." It may be a fact, but it's got a point of view, and we need to be neutral. Can you go back through the article and rewrite it with your focus strictly on maintaining a straightforward, unbiased perspective? I'm happy to give it another look (and another edit if it's necessary).
Thanks for your diligence, and thanks for getting in touch. Nice to (sort of) meet you. Julie JSFarman (talk) 20:54, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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Your submission at AfC Liz Heller was accepted[edit]

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May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon in LA[edit]

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David Serero[edit]

Dear Sir, I have added new references on the Page of opera singer David Serero: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_Serero_(singer) He is very famous and I believe deserves a page in the wikipedia in english. That's his one in french for info: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Serero_(chanteur) Thanks for your thoughts. Sincerely, Didier — Preceding unsigned comment added by VerneuilDidier (talkcontribs) 23:29, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi VerneuilDidier (talk),
First...I'm not a sir! My name is Julie. (I'm a madam.)
The problem with the article is that his notability needs to be demonstrated through reliable, independent sources that cover David and his career extensively. They can't be in any way related to David. Can you find articles about him in newspapers, journals, magazines, or books? They don't have to be in English - other languages are allowed. The formatting of the article also needs some work, and I'll be glad to help you with that, but we need to get over the notability hurdle first. Ping me when you've had a chance to add sources! Thanks, JSFarman (talk) 04:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Dear Julie, Please accept my apologies, I had no idea from the pseudo that you were a lovely lady. Very sorry about this. I've added new sources on the article, they're from reliable sources such as broadwayworld, theatremania, jerusalem post, imdb..etc. Could you please let me know if these are ok? Thanks in advance for your kindness. Didier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.218.20.250 (talk) 22:15, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey again, VerneuilDidier (talk). I think you're still short on notability - the articles are great, but the coverage needs to be more extensive, and IMDb isn't considered a reliable source. BUT - I was looking at David's French article, and there are a lot of citations/sources. I'm not a French speaker, so it's difficult for me to tell for sure -- but will you go through them and see if they provide more than a couple of paragraphs about David, and that they're from reliable, independent sources? If we can add two or three, we should be good.
And no apology necessary re: my gender...most of the editors here are male. Happens all the time! Thanks! Julie

Dear Julie Thanks for your message. I've worked very hard today! You'll be very proud of me! I've added some sources from reliable sources and I believe, made a good article. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks for your kind help. Didier — Preceding unsigned comment added by VerneuilDidier (talkcontribs) 23:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello Julie How are you? I sent you a message (see above), I wanted to know if you had any chance to check out what I added. Thanks in advance. Didier — Preceding unsigned comment added by VerneuilDidier (talkcontribs) 01:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi VerneuilDidier (talk),
Sorry for the delay! I had a deadline that I couldn't avoid.
The referencing looks much better. Now we just need to do some work on the format. (I started on it, but I'm out of time again.) I'm not wild about the way the article unfolds - the date followed by the accomplishment. Perhaps it can be better expressed as a chart, or in prose? Also, consider highlighting only the most significant, as otherwise it may appear to be a laundry list of his accomplishments.
I'll do some more when I get a chance, but you may not need my help...clearly you know what you're doing. Carry on! Julie JSFarman (talk) 19:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

My beloved Julie, You have no idea how much your word is making me happy. You are truly an angel! We saw what you did to make it more editorial and less date with accomplishment. You're absolutely right! We'll kindly wait that you make this page as you think it's best. I'm afraid I don't have your wiki knowledge. Please take your time! We love you! Didier — Preceding unsigned comment added by VerneuilDidier (talkcontribs) 21:42, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi again Didier (talk - I appreciate your lovely message but you should continue to work on the article! I'm not sure when I'll have too much time to devote to it, although I'll keep my eye on the draft and chime in where I can. Love you back.  :) Julie

Hi Julie, thanks again for your message. I put a lot of new work today (I'm starting to feel like a Pro on Wiki!!). Please let me know if this page could be published because I'm sure that some others people out there will add new relevant things. Thanks again for your kind and precious help. Didier — Preceding unsigned comment added by VerneuilDidier (talkcontribs) 19:25, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Didier (talkcontribs) - once again, apologies for the delay.
I just tried to do some clean up on the article, but I'm afraid that I don't know Opera well enough to do it competently. Unless every performance you reference is noteworthy, I would suggest you pick out the most significant to list specifically, and summarize the rest. ("He performed in (country)(country) and (country), and sang roles including (name) (name) and (name)". You're looking to include information that's encyclopedic, so, also -- find the specific locations where the performances were - writing France is too general. So is Florida.
No need to break out his career by year - you should be able to cover it in a couple of paragraphs. JSFarman (talk) 01:59, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Much better than it was, though...excellent work!

Hello beautiful Julie! Thanks for your encouragements! I've changed as requested the break out for the career by year and I specified the in france with Bordeaux and even added a reference from a magazine and did the same for the Florida one. From what I read from his website he performed much more operas and roles but I've listed just the noteworthy ones. Would it be possible to publish this article? We'll open up the champagne! Thanks in advance! Didier

Done! I'd still like to do a bit of an edit but I'm out of time right now. Thanks for all of your work - I'm going to go listen to David sing - psyched to discover him! Take care, Julie JSFarman (talk) 00:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)


Dearest Julie, I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for publishing the article about David. We are so delighted! We're a group of fans and supporters of his talent and we can't thank you enough. You have a special gift and a special star above yourself, that's for sure. May you be blessed for the rest of your life. Very sincerely, Didier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VerneuilDidier (talkcontribs) 22:43, 10 June 2014 (UTC) Yes check.svg Done

Review for Deletion[edit]

Reference link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Catona

Hi thank you got your message. I added this page for Gary Catona. The reference I had put in as links to his PR, personal page and etc. Please let me know what others references is needed?

I saw he was also listed as a vocal coach under Wikipedia so I had added that as well.

Thanks again Julisita — Preceding unsigned comment added by • contribs) 04:23, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi TalkEnt (talk,
The references need to be from independent sources. The two that you've used aren't independent - one is a press release, and the other is Gary's site. In order to establish notability, you need to show that Gary's been written about extensively by independent, reliable sources. WP:N. Also, since you're writing so much about his life, you need to use inline citations so that the content can be verified. This is particularly important when you're writing about a living person. See WP:VERIFY. Also, please take a look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons.
I'm familiar with Gary, and there's a lot about him online. If you do some digging, you'll find it, and you can construct a great article based on what you find via reliable sources. Good luck! JSFarman (talk) 04:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC) Julie

LA edit-a-thons on May 23 and 31[edit]

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Kilgour[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kilgour

Hi Julie: I thought i included all the links to substantiate the contents of my submission (albeit at the third time of asking!) and had taken out the subjective stuff. Any guidance much appreciated. Kind regards Hugh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpole3 (talkcontribs) 15:21, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Heya Hugh! (talk) - I just looked at the article and didn't see any changes from the last submission. Have you edited it again? (Maybe it's my cache.) Julie JSFarman (talk) 04:06, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

April Rose page[edit]

Hi JSFarman. I wanted to confirm a little bit more about my rejected page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/April_Rose With regard to notability, you had mentioned independent sources. Should I try to find interviews or mentions of April by sources outside of MTV/Viacom? Also, I hadn't meant for the captioned photo to be a reference but rather, to act as the photo for the right side of the article. I wasn't sure if there was a proper formatting method you could recommend.

I was going to try and use this article as a template and try to match sources in the same style. Do you think this is a good article to reference to aid in helping me get my article approved? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanie_Iglesias

Any help you can provide would be appreciated. I know you are busy and I know that Wikipedia is severely backed up. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.108.56 (talk) 19:51, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi 71.239.108.56 (talk),
The press is really important here, because April doesn't meet the criteria for notability per WP:ENTERTAINER:
  • Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.
  • Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
  • Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment
But..."A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in multiple published[3] secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other,[4] and independent of the subject."
You wrote that she's on the cover of the first Canadian Maxim; can you link to that article? (If it was just a cover shot, it's not helpful.) MTV and Viacom aren't independent, since they're writing about a show that airs on their own network. The coverage needs to be extensive, so mentions aren't helpful. Can you do deeper searches and see what else you can find? Feature stories?
The format for Melanie Iglesias is fine, but the referencing on her article is pretty weak!
To include a photo, you need to be a registered user. If you create an account, you can upload a photo. (It's a bit more complicated than that -- you need a release -- but the upload wizard can walk you through the process.
Happy to help, and good luck! Julie JSFarman (talk) 04:45, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello Julie,

Here are my revisions to the page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/April_Rose#Biography I was wondering if you could take a look at them and let me know if everything is okay?

I appreciate your help and look forward to hearing from you soon!

Hi again 71.239.108.56 (talk),
The references still don't establish her notability. They need to provide in-depth coverage, and the only reference that does is the (shocking/horrible) story from the Mail. It may just be too soon. Then again, another reviewer might take a look at it and feel differently - it's been known to happen! Sorry...I wish I could tell you the references were sufficient! Julie

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The Marshmallow Overcoat[edit]

Dear JSFarman,

I writing you in regards to an article I have been trying to add to WikiPedia for some time now. The article is about a band named "The Marshmallow Overcoat."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Marshmallow_Overcoat

I purchased one of the CDs at local record store and wanted to learn more about them. I tried WikiPedia and found numerous references to the band on entries for "Barry Sutton," "The Chesterfield Kings," "The Sound Explosion," "Walkingseeds," "A Psychedelic Psauna," and "The La's." Yet there was no entry for the band themselves. So I created the article and it was reject as advertising and having plagerized content. So I rewrote the article trying to mirror the style used for other bands of the same genre. I even contacted the bands record label, Purple Cactus/Garage Nation, to see about adding a release to their pages to allow for WikiPedia usage rights and I was surprised that they did. They even had the founder of the band, Tim Gassen, contact me and he provided me with some press material - it even turned out that he wrote a reference book about these bands called "The Knights of Fuzz" and he graciously sent me a digital copy of the book to help me in my seemingly futile quest.

Would it help if the article was renamed from the proper "The Marshmallow Overcoat" to the casual "Marshamallow Overcoat?" The articles I mentioned above all list the band as just "Marshmallow Overcoat."

Thank you for your assistance, Fred — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred Kurtzweg (talkcontribs) 02:31, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Fred (talk),
The article's really good. Thorough, informative, neutral, well written. The problem is that notability hasn't been established -- you need multiple independent sources that cover Marshmallow Overcoat extensively. I think if you do some more digging you'll find them. Since the band was active in the late 80s, some of the press might not be available online. Maybe ask Tim or someone at the label if they have the press archives anywhere? References don't have to be available online -- you just need the publication name, the article title, the author, the date, (and the page number, if it's available).
If the band's name was Marshmallow Overcoat, you should use that as the title of the article. (Always sounds weird to me when bands don't use "the." But since we're going for accuracy here, Marshmallow Overcoat it is.)
Hope I've been of some help. Happy editing, and thanks for working on the article. Julie JSFarman (talk) 04:27, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Dear Julie,
I made a change today to The Marshmallow Overcoat entry. I restructured some text and added quite a few reliable, independent sources as you had previously suggested. I am sorry for the delay, but editing this frustrated me so badly that I was tempted to chuck it all. I have never had such a frustrating experience in my life. I found I couldn't even listen to their music for the past month and a half. But I was determined to do this, so I dug in and gathered the material requested.
When you have a chance, could you please re-review?
Thank you so much for your patience,
Fred

Fred Kurtzweg (talk) 23:25, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello again. Glad you're back, Fred (talk).
Great research - great digging. Notability = established!
The formatting needs a bit of work -- instead of just tacking on the links at the end, they should be integrated into the body of the article. (Does that make sense?) I started doing an edit, but I'm out of time for the night. Let's both work on it and get it published.
Thanks so much for your efforts! Julie JSFarman (talk) 05:29, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Dear Julie,
Thank you again for your constructive input. Links have now been integrated into the body of the article as you requested.
So glad we got this far finally,
Fred

Fred Kurtzweg (talk) 09:10, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Amazing! (talk) Minor edit and published. Now that you've got the hang of it, there are a ton of other bands who deserve articles. Just saying. Thank you so much for your contribution and your patience and your willingness to jump through the hoops until the article was ready for the mainspace! Julie JSFarman (talk) 16:07, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

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Notification of a June AfC BackLog Drive[edit]

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Hello JSFarman:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
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Your submission at AfC Tom Corson was accepted[edit]

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L.A. events on June 21 and July 6[edit]

Upcoming L.A. events: Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon (Saturday, June 21, 12-5pm) and Wiknic (Sunday, July 6, ~9:30am-4pm)

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Clipix[edit]

Hi JS.

Thank you so much for replying to my comments on Zach's talk page and more importantly, thank you for making changes to my submission. This Wiki article means so much to the company and to myself. I'm hoping you can review it and you accept it!

Best,

Allencoh (talk) 13:47, 16 June 2014 (UTC)Allen

Hi Allen, Adcprny2 (talk). Can you look at the article as it currently stands and make sure it's accurate? I did a brief edit and I'm not entirely sure that I have my facts straight. Thanks, Julie JSFarman (talk) 04:21, 17 June 2014 (UTC) (PS - it was me that left the comment about the article being solid, not Zach, but I haven't gone through all the references yet.)

Hi @JSFarman.

Julie, I greatly appreciate your response and feedback. I will check the submission again. Quick question about the references...one of the editors mentioned something about using the same reference twice...is this permitted? This entire process has been very confusing and I want to make this submission perfect so you can approve it!! That being said, I want you to be completely sure of the facts and have no questions--anything stick out as a question mark to you? I'm sorry I thanked Zach for the comment about being solid..THANK YOU! Looking forward to your response. AllenAdcprny2 (talk) 13:08, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi again Adcprny2 (talk),

No need to thank me -- I'm just concerned that we confused you.

And yes, it's ok to use the same reference twice, but it should be formatted so that rather than the reference appearing twice, it's noted that it's used multiple times with a,b,c, etc.

I'm not confident that accepting the article would be appropriate -- it's outside my area of expertise --- and having an article deleted is more of a drag than having it declined! I'm going to try and get another reviewer to look at it post haste. Thanks for your patience. Julie

Kilgour[edit]

Hi there - I resubmitted the Kilgour entry on 22nd May 2014 but no comment subsequently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kilgour Did I do something wrong? Regards Hugh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpole3 (talkcontribs) 11:02, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Heya Wimpole3 (talk),
For some reason the article wasn't resubmitted. I'll do a quick edit (the text is repeated twice) and submit it on your behalf. The references are better, but the formatting isn't correct -- you did it right on the first submission -- if you get a chance, will you go back and edit? I'll do it eventually, but no idea when. Damn life in the way right now. xx JSFarman (talk) 03:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

+= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kilgour ==

Julie - I will resubmit now. Thanks for your help as ever. Hugh x — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpole3 (talkcontribs) 12:33, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Per your request[edit]

Try using {{Subscription required}}. Use {{efn}} with {{notelist}}. Also, expand the image displays to pick what you need. Happy hunting. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:27, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Chris Troutman! Aha - I would never have found that. Thanks! Julie JSFarman (talk) 21:31, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

09:18:07, 11 July 2014 review of submission by Raffishtenant[edit]


Brand new editor here (so please be gentle :). My understanding of the guidelines for music is that, once an artist has a single on a national chart, notability is established. The original article mentioned this chart position (though the citation didn't point to quite the right place), so I'm puzzled as to why it was declined.

I've taken a first stab at adding release information, fixing links, and combining the declined article with another one for the same band (which got speedily deleted a couple times because it didn't establish notability). Please let me know if there's anything else that should be done to get this article ready for prime time.

Raffishtenant (talk) 09:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Raffishtenant (talk). Nice job given that you're a new editor...any chance you were coached by Lisa Chin (talk)? Um. You seem to have a similar style. Not that it matters -- she's a good editor, as are you.
The criteria states that appearing on a national chart indicates the subject may be notable. I don't necessarily think that's true in this case, given that Columbia has a very effective promotion department, and a lot of artists (notable or not) end up on the alternative/Sirius charts. However, there's more press than what you initially included -- can you add a couple more references? For example, this one works: I Know It's Not Cool, But It Helps To Establish Notability.
I'm removing Postal Service from the info box - Magic Man don't appear to be associated with the band. They're just compared to them. (Another editing tic ala Lisa Chin! Smiley face.) To me, "associated" indicates a significant relationship -- if you can reference that they've worked together, etc., feel free to add it back.
Anyway...add some references, ping me, and I'll accept the article. Thanks for your contribution! Julie JSFarman (talk) 16:32, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Julie! I appreciate the notability clarification and suggestions. I haven't met Lisa yet, but yep: she put together one of the two declined articles which fed into this one (including the Postal Service link). I've added a few more press references as requested. (Ha, wouldn't have guessed that my first editing foray would feature a link to Glamour!) Right now the press links feel a bit "tacked on" to me, but they don't seem extensive enough to merit their own section. I figure this can be addressed if and when the band starts to receive more coverage...? Thanks again and please let me know if you have any other suggestions. Ethan Raffishtenant (talk) 22:48, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Heya Ethan (talk), Accepted and published. My only suggestion would be that you write more articles - there are so many bands that meet the criteria for notability and aren't yet on Wikipedia. I can offer some ideas if you're interested. Heh. Nice job! Thanks. Julie JSFarman (talk) 04:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Sweet! Thanks for the publish, Julie. I'm certainly interested in working on similar pages as time permits, so I appreciate the offer...bring on the band names. One question: it looks as though you combined three of my original paragraphs into one fairly long one. I have to say that encountering that much stuff in one paragraph (especially when almost every sentence has a citation) makes me zone out as a reader. Is there a guideline that addresses this? If not, would you mind if I broke that sucker back down into at least two paragraphs? Thanks. Ethan Raffishtenant (talk) 08:15, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Names to come, Ethan (talk).
Sometimes the articles lose paragraph breaks in the move to the main space - it wasn't intentional! Please fix it - you can edit it (as can anyone) at anytime. Thanks again. JSFarman (talk) 13:56, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Cool, done! Thanks. Ethan Raffishtenant (talk) 21:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done

Proposal re June BED[edit]

There is a proposal at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/June_2014_Backlog_Elimination_Drive#We_need_a_conclusion that merits your consideration Fiddle Faddle 16:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

22:09:24, 16 July 2014 review of submission by Fred Kurtzweg[edit]


Fred Kurtzweg (talk) 22:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Dear Julie,

I made a change yesterday to The Marshmallow Overcoat entry, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Marshmallow_Overcoat . I restructured some text and added quite a few reliable, independent sources as you had previously suggested. I am sorry for the delay, but editing this frustrated me so badly that I was tempted to chuck it all. I have never had such a frustrating experience in my life. I found I couldn't even listen to their music for the past month and a half. But I was determined to do this, so I dug in and gathered the material requested. When you have a chance, could you please re-review?

Thank you so much for your patience, Fred Fred Kurtzweg (talk) 22:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Glen Brunman[edit]

I took a look at your sandbox. You didn't like what Mdann52 had added? I think I'd prefer that information in a table like the discography. What you could do is make all those notes from the career section. Is that what you're wanting to do? Chris Troutman (talk) 20:51, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for checking in out, Chris.
I loved what Mdann 52 did but when I tried to follow his code I kept messing up. Maybe I should try again...it would look so much better. BUT - I know how to do a table - if I can't make the Mdann52 magic work I'll go for that. Thank you! Julie JSFarman (talk) 21:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I can re-establish that code if you want. It's not too hard to do; I could do the first couple and you'll be able to handle the rest. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:16, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Chris!!!! (talk) Yes! Please! That would be great. I don't know why it's so tricky for me, but I can't do it. Thanks! JSFarman (talk) 00:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I did the first few for you so you should be able to follow the pattern with the rest of them. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Don't Kill Me! (talk) It looks really cool but I decided not to list the awards -- I can't find the references I need to back the specifics up. (There's are a few articles that note the Academy Awards and the Grammy Awards, which is where I got the total count from, so I'm going to leave it like that.) ARG. Sorry, thanks, and I should have checked on all of it before I tried to get fancy. JSFarman (talk) 04:28, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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John F. McNerney[edit]

Your addition of the tags was reverted--I restored them. This isn't my subject area, but it looks like afd might be in order. DGG ( talk ) 13:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks DGG ( talk ). I AfD'd it, although I rather enjoyed that it was PROD because "JSFarman is on power trip. Doesn't like the article or references or sources. Didn't know Billboard wasn't a valid source." JSFarman (talk) 16:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Indeed, seeing that is what caused me to look further. DGG ( talk ) 23:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at AfC Glen Brunman was accepted[edit]

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Glen Brunman, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

Fiddle Faddle 15:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I think it was good enough[edit]

To be fair, if you can create articles that are good enough, do it directly. I will only ever create articles without AFC unless I find I have a COI. The trick is getting an article to stick. Reference, reference, and reference again. Email I hardly use for WP stuff, BTW. Fiddle Faddle 19:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello Fiddle Faddle! I created my first article without AfC last week -- I've only just gotten confident enough to create articles without review. (Kind of ridiculous given that I've been reviewing other people's submissions for nearly a year.) And, as you pointed out previously, I tend to over-reference, if anything... Thanks so much for your help. From here on in, it's talk pages. Julie JSFarman (talk) 02:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Sia and Lana on Greg Kurstin discography[edit]

Sorry I didn't respond quickly to your earlier post. I was on vacation right now so I really don't have much time to check on the internet. Anyways, congrats on figuring it out! Glad to help. Chihciboy (talk) 07:52, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

A brownie for you![edit]

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Some sketchy stuff happened..[edit]

Hey JSFarman,

So I'm new to wikipedia and I want to write an article about Mark Macias (I am not him but I know him personally). I originally submitted a draft about his firm MaciasPR but upon reading your feedback I realized his firm isn't notable enough but HE is (btw thanks for that clarification).

So I typed 'Mark Macias' into wiki, it said an article doesn't currently exist for him, so I clicked I wanted to write one, I wrote it, submitted, and it went up instantly without undergoing any review. Isn't there something wrong with that? I thought it needs to be reviewed before it goes up? And right after this happened I got a message saying my account is nominated for deletion.

I'm clearly a novice in the wiki world so maybe I did something wrong unintentionally, but I then submitted a draft for the same article (Mark Macias) that was actually submitted to be reviewed.

Can we take down the unreviewed page somehow? How does the unreviewed article vs. submitted draft thing work out?

Thanks so much for the time JSFarman.

212access (talk) 19:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC) Dan

@212access: (talk page stalker) First, do not blank other editors' talk pages. In fact, you should not remove your own comments after you make them. The Articles for Creation WikiProject is meant to be used by IPs (unregistered accounts) and new users to draft articles. After four days and several edits, you can make an article like Mark Macias on your own without approval. There's nothing wrong with that. Accordingly, I've declined Draft:Mark Macias because it's now superfluous. You can nominate that draft for speedy deletion or simply abandon it. Be advised, the reviewers at WikiProject AfC help new editors so that drafts stand better than a 50/50 chance in case someone nominates it for deletion. Your new article exists but it could be nominated for deletion so I recommend you continue to improve it, especially by adding more independent and reliable sources so you can make a case for general notability. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:54, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Hey 212access (talk) and Hello (talk page stalker)Chris Troutman, Not sure what happened here, but I wanted to tell you that I did the same thing when I started working on my first article. I searched the subject, didn't find him Bryan Kest, wrote the article based on the prompts, and published it, thinking I was submitting a draft. I panicked until I realized that the article was neutral and properly sourced and wasn't going to get deleted. It probably happens a lot.
That said, you should do some more work on the Mark Macias article, as Chris suggested -- the references are weak. The only one that's valid is from KPHO, and you need multiple references to establish notability - I don't think the article would survive a deletion nomination as it currently stands. Happy editing and hit me back if you need any help. Julie JSFarman (talk) 22:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Luke Juby wiki entry refusal[edit]

Hiya - am really looking for help with this. I thought all was verifiable. Can you give me a clue which part of the content you are having problems with, please. Is it acceptable to refer to other verified Wiki entries, which I have done in several places?

I'd be extremely grateful for any help or guidance you could give me.

Best wishes, Liz Emac494 (talk) 11:26, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Liz Emac494 (talk),
This issue with the article isn't the verification, it's the notability. Here's the criteria for musicians: WP:NMUSIC. If he doesn't meet the criteria, you can establish notability via multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. I did a search and didn't find much. Has he written songs that have charted on mainstream charts? That might be enough.
And - believe it or not - Wikipedia isn't considered a reliable source. That cracks me up, but I get it - ! Happy editing and let me know if I can help further. Julie JSFarman (talk) 20:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Entry for Luke Juby[edit]

Hi Julie

Thank you so much for your help. I've got the sleeve notes of 3 albums which were hits here in the Uk but I can't find any copy of them on the web. He wrote or co-wrote these tracks among others: Emeli Sande Our Version of Events (Suitcase, Mountains, Lifetime) Leona Lewis Glassheart (When it Hurts) Naughty Boy Hotel Cabana (Think about IT, One Way and Pluto) Professor Green At Your Inconveience (Avalon)

I'm not sure if it would be possible to find these, but I could photo the credits and send them, if that would be helpful. They also appear on the All Music web-site http://www.allmusic.com/artist/luke-juby-mn0002446830 but I'm not sure if that is acceptable.

Thank you for your time and advice, Liz 5.68.237.140 (talk) 15:17, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi again, Liz (talk) 5.68.237.140 (talk),
Here's a link to his credits: Luke Juby at AllMusic It might not be complete, but usually AllMusic is pretty accurate.
It's not a matter of demonstrating notability to me -- I just volunteer at AfC - I have the same authority on Wikipedia as you do. Notability needs to be apparent to readers, and that's done through references that appear as footnotes to the article. (If you decide to stick around and get some experience, Wikiproject AfC is a great way to contribute, and help is desperately needed.)
I'd go through his credits and note which of his songs charted - between the verification at AllMusic and the charts (which are generally available) you may be able to establish notability based on this, from WP:NMUSIC:
The following factors suggest that a song or single may be notable, though a standalone article should still satisfy the aforementioned criteria.
  • Has been ranked on national or significant music or sales charts.
  • Has won one or more significant awards or honors, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.
  • Has been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands, or groups.
Thanks for your efforts, and thanks for the thanks! Julie JSFarman (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Breelan Angel Edits[edit]

Hi!

Thank you for the feedback on the Breelan Angel article. I'm not sure how to correct this and was worried about the references since most of the information is only from my press releases.

I have links to several reviews of the album, will those help?

http://roughstock.com/news/album-review-breelan-angel-secret-review/ http://onestopcountry.com/index.php/music-reviews/album-reviews/713-breelan-angel-dirty-little-secrets http://www.musicnewsnashville.com/breelan-angel-dirty-little-secrets/ http://www.dailyvault.com/toc.php5?review=8327

Please let me know what is needed and how I can work to get this approved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Breelan_Angel

Thanks, Ami

2601:E:1200:7FB:55C7:25B8:7B8D:1882 (talk) 04:29, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ami, 2601:E:1200:7FB:55C7:25B8:7B8D:1882 (talk),
Since the press releases aren't independent, they don't establish notability. You should probably just remove them (although they can occasionally be used to verify information in an article). The reviews linked above definitely help, but (in my opinion only) we're not quite to notability yet. But - make the changes, add the reviews, and resubmit - another reviewer might feel differently - ! Thanks, Julie JSFarman (talk) 22:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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I would value your opinion[edit]

I reviewed Draft:RELEX and was asked here to expand on my decline rationale. I wonder if you would do me the kindness of inspecting the references in the draft and giving your own opinion on them, ideally to the draft;s author, perhaps on the draft? Fiddle Faddle 16:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Fiddle Faddle - Done! I think we have some background in common. Thanks for asking. Julie JSFarman (talk) 18:44, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Mine was working in the bullshit and hype department of UK and EMEA offices of once major US IT corporations! I created so many PR pieces I can do it without thinking. I can get a journalist to put their byline on the things I write because I target them for their media outlet. That means they have to do zero work, though sentence word order is often changed subtly.
Doing it means I can smell it in a published piece. Fiddle Faddle 23:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jon Stokes[edit]

Hello,

I'm in the process of editing the article for Jon Stokes which you rejected on the grounds that the references were not adequate being not about him specifically, but about the organisations he is associated with. I just wondered what the difference is between this draft article and the one for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Billsberry ? They both work in the same field and I cannot see that Jon Billsberry's references meet your criteria either, and yet his article has been accepted... Is it the fact that he is better embedded into Wikipedia, being listed for example, as an alumni of a particular university?

Many thanks and kind regards,

Sophie — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZofiaJK (talkcontribs) 13:45, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sophie, (talkcontribs),
I reviewed Jon Stokes article over a year ago - if I were reviewing it today I would have declined it for notability, not for sourcing. There are specific criteria for academics: WP:PROF.
Jon Billsbury's article wasn't "accepted" - the author of the article (presumably Jon Billsbury based on user name) didn't go through the review process. He/she published the article him/herself. (It was in 2009.) I've tagged the article accordingly - notability hasn't been established, and the references are inadequate. That said, there are thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of articles on Wikipedia that are subpar -- that they exist means only that no one has noticed and/or had the desire to improve them (or nominate them for deletion if they can't be brought up to standard). See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.
If you're able to find more references, hit me back. Thanks for contributing! Julie JSFarman (talk) 17:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Request for feedback on User:Rustavo/Seth Moulton[edit]

Hi, I'm writing because I see that you contributed to Draft:Seth Moulton a few months back. A few days ago, I created a userspace draft page on the same topic, User:Rustavo/Seth Moulton. I wasn't aware of the existence of Draft:Seth Moulton until just now, although I did see that a prior Seth Moulton page had been deleted.

I've been getting feedback on my draft from Kudpung, who was involved in a prior speedy delete - please see our discussion and his review on his talk page. I was wondering if you would be also be willing to review my draft and comment on its suitability for moving to the mainspace. I believe that it satisfies WP:notability requirements - in particular including references to a significant number of in-depth articles, specifically about the subject, in independent sources, including national press (TIME Magazine) and prominent regional media (e.g. extensive coverage in the Boston Globe). My inclination is to move it to the mainspace in the next day or two, but please let me know what you think. Also, please let me know if you think I should incorporate content from Draft:Seth Moulton. Thanks! RustavoTalk/Contribs 03:55, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

RustavoTalk, I'm so sorry for the delay. I've been off Wiki for a bit. I just saw that you published the article, and I'm glad you did. You absolutely established notability. The previous submission focused too heavily on his political career, which made me uncomfortable, even though I thought he was notable. So instead of reviewing it, I did an edit and moved on. Great article. And nice to meet you. Julie JSFarman (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Nice to meet you too! RustavoTalk/Contribs 17:56, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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10:54:38, 14 October 2014 review of submission by Fearthemeade[edit]


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Hi Fearthemeade (talk),
Did you have a question/comment? Let me know. Thanks! Julie

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Brielle_Daniele_Edborg[edit]

HI JSFarman: I need help. I have been writing this now for several months and you declined because one of the articles link is broken, so if I delete that since we have a plethora more? will that suffice. thanks. TimothyTimedborg 18:10, 17 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timedborg (talkcontribs)

OK, I fixed the post journal links and added a bunch of solid articles in and including Getty image and wireimage reference. I suspect you know the solid of being up on wireimage and getty images? Timedborg 18:55, 17 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timedborg (talkcontribs)

Hi Timedborg (talk), I wish I could be of more help, but I'm still not seeing enough coverage to establish that Brielle meets the criteria required. WireImage and Getty ARE great, but they're only photos, and don't provide the extensive coverage that we need. (Yes, I'm familiar with both services.) I did an extensive search, and didn't find any appropriate citations.
Another reviewer might find the Post Journal links sufficient, in combination with the other references used, but I think the article on Brielle as it stands right now would be susceptible to deletion. Feel free to resubmit it, although you may be better served by waiting until there's more press. Sorry! Our gig as reviewers is to help editors draft articles that will stick, and I'm afraid this wouldn't. Thanks, Julie JSFarman (talk) 01:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Julie: I just don't get it, I see other entertainers and artists with wiki pages that have as many notable references as Brielle. With that said. I did add 3 more solid press refs like All Access like you had suggested including the Getty/WireImage that you said is not really that notable. I guess I don't get the purpose of wiki. I am not trying to promote her (we have plenty of social systems, radio, video, PR, and media already doing that), I am just trying to be as factual as possible on a growing pop cultural figure that I suspect the public wants to know factual notable information about. Timothy Timedborg 12:45, 18 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timedborg (talkcontribs)

Hey again Tim (talk) and sorry for the delay. I've been off Wiki since last week.
There's specific criteria regarding the inclusion of musicians in Wikipedia - see WP:NMUSIC. Valid references need to be independent, from reliable sources, and provide extensive coverage. Specifically, I declined the article because of the following issues with the references. (Please note that 2-3 brief and fluffy paragraphs don't validate notability.)
  • 1. Federal registration doesn't establish notability
  • 2. Post Journal - valid, but local (same article used three times) - Jamestown has a population of 30,000.
  • 3. High school record - not extensive, and doesn't support that she's an entertainer or musician.
  • 4/5: See above re Post Journal
  • 6. Not extensive coverage, and this award doesn't establish notability
  • 7/8/9: The video's inclusion on a music video site doesn't establish notability; virtually every music video site endeavors to include all available videos
  • 10/11: Written by Danielle; not independent
  • 12. Mention only
  • 13. Video post; editorial coverage is trivial
  • 14. Valid
  • 15. Trivial coverage via questionable source
  • 16. Not extensive coverage
  • 17. Interview, not considered independent, trivial editorial coverage
  • 18. Not extensive coverage
  • 19. Not extensive coverage
  • 20/21: Getty references are simply photos. They don't provide extensive coverage, and Brielle's inclusion doesn't establish notability. Getty's business is selling photos -- the images aren't curated and don't involve any kind of editorial process. (The more photographs they have available, the more profitable they are.)
  • 22: Music Now appears to be part of Rocklan One, which looks like paid placement/marketing. Further, I'm only seeing a photograph (which may or may not be a cover). I'm not inclined to give this the benefit of the doubt, given that I've worked in music for a looooooong time and I've never heard of this publication.


The existence of other articles with similar references doesn't impact whether or not Brielle's article is published. Unfortunately, there are a gazillion articles on Wikipedia that wouldn't have made it through the review process. In some cases, it's because they were never put up for review or were published before the review system existed. Frequently those articles will ultimately be nominated for deletion.
One more thing - when you say "we have plenty of social systems in place..." etc. it implies that you're associated with Brielle, and thus have a conflict of interest. Please read WP:COI for guidance.
Again, I'm sorry that I can't be of more help. I don't believe she meets the criteria as of yet. As I wrote previously, another reviewer might feel differently, so feel free to resubmit. Best, Julie JSFarman (talk) 17:27, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Julie, and no problem with taking longer than usual. However, as the original drummer in the 1980's alternative rock band the 10,000 Maniacs and 1980's hair band Tokyo Rose I have been in the business as well a very long time, and I don't know how someone can be charting, reported by Media Base, at the age of 19yrs old with a debut single in the pop/chr space with an indie label, NOT be notable. And yes, there is a conflict of interest, I am the President of the young lady's label, so very frustrating. But I appreciate your help. Thanks again, Timothy Timedborg 17:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timedborg (talkcontribs)

Request on 14:23:17, 20 October 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Meganq92[edit]


I am just wondering why the article wasnt accepted, so I can fix it, also im not sure why it says CAVS ( musical group) its not a musical group it is an audio visual sompany, the first audio visual company in ireland and the first proper company to tour the UK and ireland. There are many other audio visual companies with a wikipedia page and I am wondering what I can do to ensure CAVS gets one too as it is rightly deserved.


Meganq92 (talk) 14:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Meganq92 (talk),
It looks like "Musical Group" was added to the draft title accidentally by another editor - I'll change it back.
CAVS may well be notable, but you need to demonstrate it with proper references! See WP:NCORP. (The existence of similar articles isn't relevant - there are a lot of articles on Wikipedia that probably shouldn't be here.)
Also, the tone of the article needs work - it needs to be completely neutral and encyclopedic! No personality, basically..."worthy but boring." In addition, the facts that you include should be cited so the information is verifiable. See WP:CITE.
Hope that helps. Cool article, cool story! Happy editing, Julie JSFarman (talk) 17:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

18:04:39, 20 October 2014 review of submission by Cpg819[edit]


Hi, I'm wondering why the Rob Burger page was declined?Cpg819 (talk) 18:04, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Cpg819 (talk) 18:04, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Cpg819 (talk),
You need to add references and citations for the information included in the article. See WP:CITE. Right now most of what you've written isn't verifiable -- the assertions of the article (biographical info, etc) needs to be supported by independent references. Rob Burger's site isn't independent, and saying that the credits were collected from AllMusic isn't nough to cover everything that you've written. Also, see WP:NMUSIC for specifics re: notability. Let me know if you have more questions, otherwise ping me after the cites have been added. Thanks! Julie JSFarman (talk) 16:50, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Article assessment[edit]

If u have some spare time Wikipedia:WikiProject_Marketing_&_Advertising#Article_assessment, I really appreciate any help you can provide Lbertolotti (talk) 21:01, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hiya Lbertolotti (talk). The article reads well to me, but I don't feel qualified to assess it - I'm well versed in marketing and advertising, but I don't know enough about economics. Thanks for asking, though! Julie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Edition_Records[edit]

Hello JSFarman

I have added a few more references which I hope will provide information of the notability of Edition Records. Thanks for your help. Marycjames (talk) 13:53, 4 November 2014 (UTC)Marycjames

Hi Marycjames (talk), Sorry for the delay. Just moved. But - it looks like the article has been created! Great news. But still keep looking for meatier references so the notability tag can be removed! Happy editing. Julie

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Request on 12:16:41, 10 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Meganq92[edit]


Meganq92 (talk) 12:16, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Meganq92 (talk),
As I wrote on your draft, it's a cool story. But you need to rewrite it so that it's easier to understand, formal in tone, neutral, and referenced (to establish notability and support the assertions of the article).
For example, your lead as it currently stands is:
"CAVS has not been an overnight success but was actually conceived way back at the end of the 60s by its creator Fran Quigley. So this company would have the longest standing roots of all within the Audio Visual industry now into its 5th decade."
To be appropriate for Wikipedia, it should say something more like:
"Corporate Audio Visual Services (CAVS) is an audio visual company based in Dublin, Ireland. One of the first companies of its kind, CAVS was founded in (year) by Fran Quigley." Then you need to add a reference which will show why CAVS should be in an encyclopedia, and verify that it was one of the first AV companies.
Please take some time with writing a better draft. It'll help you with the construction of the article. But you may first want to look for references -- the article won't be published unless you can establish notability, which can be a challenge. See WP:CORP for the specifics.
Let me know if you have more questions after you've read the above. Best, Julie

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