User talk:JaFa 01

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Welcome[edit]

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We're so glad you're here! I dream of horses (talk) 01:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Moved of Auckland representative rugby union team[edit]

Hi there, I am reverting your move of Auckland representative rugby union team to Auckland Representative Rugby Union Team as it is a violation of Wikipedia:Naming convention (capitalization). The name is a descriptive one, not a proper noun. dramatic (talk) 00:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ranfurly Shield in 2009[edit]

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Style and Neutrality[edit]

Hi Jafa, Could you please take the time to familiarise yourself with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, particularly regarding Verifiability, Neutral Point of view and Original Research. The style of writing you have been using in articles such as Ranfurly Shield in 2009 and Bay of Plenty Steamers is fine as a blog or sports journalism, but totally out of place in an encyclopedia. Wikipedia's role is to summarise what reliable secondary sources have said about a subject. Anything which is an opinion or interpretation must be presented as the opinion of the person who stated it (e.g. a cited quotation). dramatic (talk) 11:59, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Merge proposal[edit]

Hi Jafa, if you disagree with my proposal to merge Bay of Plenty Rugby Union and Bay of Plenty Steamers then please discuss it. Don't just delete the tags. Cheers Mattlore (talk) 02:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Finest Shield Game of them All[edit]

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A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Finest Shield Game of them All, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

This term is not notable and hardly verifiable, as only one source actually uses this name apparently (Matches Of The Century by Don Cameron). Nothing about this on Google News or Google Books. If one single commentator uses a term to describe one game, it is far from sufficient to use that for an article. Something should be commonly known under that description to have such an article.

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July 2009[edit]

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Information.png Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did in this edit to Tasman Rugby Union. Inappropriate links include links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that serve as advertising or promotion. Thank you. Alansohn (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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Stop hand nuvola.svg This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you add inappropriate external links, as you did with this edit to 2008 Air New Zealand Cup. Alansohn (talk) 23:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


File copyright problem with File:WAL NZ 07 Nov 09.svg[edit]

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Rugby boxes[edit]

I have spent an age going through standardising all the rugbyboxes for these articles and there is no good reason to collapse them. Further, you have been linking every team again, which is discouraged as per WP:OVERLINK. There is not an excess of information and as per virtually every other rugby page, the full rugbybox templates are absolutely fine. The entire point of a rugbybox is to neatly summarise information in a clearly presentable format. By hiding it, you are essentially negating their entire use and function. Please consider your actions before continuing changing these templates. Further, league tables should not be made sortable. They are a document of standings and there is only one suitable way to present them. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but that is your opinion. Until there is consensus on their use, the standard rugby boxes should be used. They have served us well for the past however many years and do not create any problem with navigation or ease of reading. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
There isn’t one, you would need to start a discussion and wait for input from other editors. Take a look at 2009–10 Heineken Cup pool stage to see the full expanded version used in a season with 72 games. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
By the way, I didn’t realise you had started adding scorers to the 1996 article. Good work with that. Perhaps when you complete the article with all the scorers you could make one version with collapsed boxes and one with expanded boxes and then the two versions could be used as a direct comparison for your discussion. Just avoid linking the name of the team each time as it isn’t necessary. Just link the team name once in the table. Then it doesn't need to be linked in the results as it is obvious where a link could be found if a reader needed one. As for scorers, I would link these each time, as it isn't so obvious where else on the page such a link would be. Stadiums and cities ideally should only be linked in their first instance. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Also, I don't think anyone will see your discussion at 1996 Super 12 season. Try starting one at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union. I'm interested to see what will happen. I'm going to continue formatting the remaining seasons that I haven't done yet as all that would need to be done is add "collapsable" to the rugby box name if we decide that is the way forward. It may take me a day of two to complete. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:21, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
No worries, and sorry for reverting you straight out last time, I didn't realise you had added the extra detail. I’m actually starting to come around to the collapsed idea, but can’t decide which I prefer. My main concern is that when they are collapsed, there are a lot of rather unsightly horizontal lines running across the screen between each result. Is there any way to avoid this? I think that would make it neater. Also, I don't know whether it will be clear enough that the information is there, or will all the hard work be hidden and only found by a few readers? We'll see what other editors think. Keep up the good work. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:28, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
I moved the discussion to the bottom of the page (this is where new discussions should be started – it may be missed at the top) and added my opinion. It may take a week or so to gain consensus on this. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Wow. Good work sorting out those lines. I think they look much better now. It’s just whether we want to hide all that work you are putting in adding the scorers. I can see arguments for and against, just can’t decide myself. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:41, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Just noticed that the "time" field is eliminated from the collapsable boxes. Could you make this something that is displayed when the box is expanded? Nouse4aname (talk) 10:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Never mind, ignore me, just took a look at the template code and saw it was there! I've got things to do now, but will keep an eye on developments. Cheers. Nouse4aname (talk) 10:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, not sure I understand what you mean by excluding them if they can't be "consistent"? Nouse4aname (talk) 10:06, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

One thing that is useful is a link to a report of the game, preferably from Super Rugby or a partner broadcaster. This helps with the "referencing" of an article. I realise that for games this long ago, finding a report on the net is virtually impossible, but for more recent seasons I think links to reports are vital. Nouse4aname (talk) 10:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
For the times, I think if the information is available we should include it. If it's not then it's not a big deal having some missing gaps. Best to have some of the times than none I think... Nouse4aname (talk) 10:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
I assume they are local to the venue. I didn't add them, they were already there when I reformatted the rugbyboxes. Nouse4aname (talk) 10:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, I've had a rethink on the table. I think that making it sortable is quite a useful feature and may be interesting for some readers to be able to sort by points scored etc. However, I used the formatting I changed it too before, as I found your version the text was quite small and the table rather wide, and thus not so easy to read. Let me know if you disagree. Nouse4aname (talk) 10:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

I think you're right. Good find. Nouse4aname (talk) 11:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Super rugby finals system[edit]

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