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Andrea Moreno[edit]

I noticed your edits in List of Ghost Whisperer characters about Andrea Moreno's name. I changed it from Marino to Moreno because I have official source, a book that is published by the Producer of the show (this is why I gave a reference after her full name and explanation to the talk page). I have reverted your edits to Moreno again. w_tanoto (talk) 08:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009[edit]

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January 2009[edit]

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Halloween template[edit]

Please stop removing the sequel link. The reason it was placed there is because there has been a history of anonymous editors creating pages with various titles in reference to the Halloween sequel. The link was placed there to deter them from creating a page by giving them a link to the information.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Information.svg Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to The Substitute 4: Failure Is Not An Option, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Triwbe (talk) 20:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Maxine Johnson[edit]

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Maintenance Templates[edit]

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more March 2009[edit]

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Friday the 13th[edit]

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Halloween[edit]

Please see the discussion on the 2009 film's talk page. The official websites are listing "Halloween II" and the TV spots are now listing "Halloween II". Unless someone comes out and says "No, this is the real title", then for all intents and purposes "Halloween II" is the official title. If you disagree, please go to the talk page instead of just moving the pages back. Thanks.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Two editors have reverted you now, and 3 editors are in agreement that the page should be "Halloween II" when you include the talk page discussion. Please do not change the page again. This includes moving the 1981 film page title as well. If you continue to refuse to discuss this on the talk pages, and just revert the page titles then I'll be forced to report your edits to an Admin.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 02:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Please stop removing "would pick up where Halloween II ends and" and adding "movie" to the Halloween franchise page. The first bit is in the source, it's verified. The second ("movie") is an unprofessional term.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 16:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

August 2009[edit]

Information.svg Please do not add content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to List of iCarly episodes. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Don't change info without changing the reference NrDg 21:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Child's Play remake[edit]

In reference to your removal of information from Child's Play (film series): there is a discussion relating to the possible remake on the article talk page – Talk:Child's Play (film series)#Remake. If you believe the information to be incorrect, I invite you to present your reasons there. Thank you. --Dominic Hardstaff (talk) 10:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

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Jabrona, I've moved your input to here – Talk:Child's Play (film series) – where it can be read by other editors. If you can remember which publication or website the article was in, that would be of immense help. Thanks. --Dominic Hardstaff (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I would be great to get a citation for this. It may well be that the abandoned plans are notable enough to keep the section but include news of the discontinuation. Note that it is still getting regular edit indicating an imminent release. Thanks. -- ToET 00:24, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

re: your message[edit]

Hi Jabrona, I've left a reply to your message on my talk page -- Marek.69 talk 05:54, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

January 2010[edit]

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Re: Halloween 6: Director's Cut[edit]

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Movie-censorship.com[edit]

I have started a larger discussion about movie-censorship.com at WT:FILM. Your thoughts are welcome. The discussion can be found here. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll be looking at it now and will be leaving a response. Jabrona (talk | contribs) - 21:18, 8 Janurary 2011 (UCT)

January 2011[edit]

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Jason[edit]

It's original research to say what is and what is not in continuity. The only thing anyone has ever said was that they intentionally put Jason X in the future so that it would not conflict with any other storyline that could come later (even a FvJ one). The writers of FvJ never stated that it takes place in that continuity, or anything. They can point out that clearly Jason X takes place much later, but that's it. You also cannot connect dots and say that it was intended to have Jason be alive with no actual resurrection in Jason X because he would be resurrected in FvJ....that's original research. Cunningham did not have the foresight to see what the story would be for FvJ because he didn't have a hand in writing it. Regardless, it's not relevant to point out where something might fall in "continuity" on these pages because it doesn't matter to the film itself.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

The original research stands to be very well supported though. Clearly Jason X was not intended to be some sort of reboot of the series but the series' 10th film. And true, Sean Cunningham didn't foresee what story Freddy Vs. Jason would turn out to be, but he did know that it was going to be made eventually. He knew it was going to take place after Jason Goes to Hell and knew it was going to feature Jason's resurrection after that movie. Jason X was meant to take place after Freddy Vs. Jason whenever it got made and Freddy Vs. Jason can easily fall in before it, otherwise Cunningham would have went about his own thing and adding in Jason's resurrection. But surprisingly he didn't and left that alone. What else can you build off from that? Jabrona - 01:02, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
The truth is, from the moment they decided to put FREDDY KRUEGER IN JASON GOES TO HELL, PULLING HIS MASK INTO HELL, they were planning a Freddy vs. Jason and knew it would deal with Jason's resurrection somehow. But FvJ was stuck in development hell when the time came to make another film, so they made a film set in the future, either to give us time while we wait for Freddy vs. Jason, or to kill him off for good (like they did with Pinhead in Hellraiser Bloodline). I agree with you completely. Unfortunately I've tried arguing with Bignole before, we had this exact same conversation and when the chief admin thinks something, there's no changing his mind. IMO it's original research to state it's NOT in continuity. At the end of JGtH he was PULLED INTO HELL with NO BODY TO STRIKE WITH LIGHTNING. How else could he have come back if it wasn't someone from the inside? (It used to be worse though... he used to think Jason survived the end of Jason X) Ghostkaiba297 (talk) 23:16, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Well, I wanted to tell Bignole and wait for his response to what I said but then I figured was it really worth it. I tried to explain to him the whole ordeal and I can see your point. But I know Jason X was made to make room for Freddy Vs. Jason to take place before it explaining Jason's resurrection. And about Jason X, though it's not officially said, I think Jason was killed for good because he was disintegrated in the atmosphere and I don't think there was anything left of him but his mask that landed into the sea below on Earth 2. I will convince Bignole otherwise once more and see what happens now. He never did read my response I wrote three weeks ago.Jabrona - 01:30, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
No argument there. As I tried to explain to Bignole, he is even listed under the "Jump to Death" menu (listing the death scenes in the movie) alongside Brodski with "Atmosphere" as cause of death. Bignole has not responded to that however, which makes me a tad suspicious, but at least he hasn't changed "is incinerated in the atmosphere of Earth 2" back to "landing on Earth 2" as he used to. Ghostkaiba297 (talk) 01:53, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Again, what appears in a special feature is not a reflection of what appears on screen. On screen, you do not see him dead in Jason X. On screen, there is no mention of continuity between Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X, and Freddy vs. Jason. The plot section is a reflection of what happens on the screen itself. Would you feel better if we just removed the "retcon" word from the second film? We can do that. Then there won't be an argument about which films have retcons and which are just continuity errors.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 02:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Here is where the original research comes in, there is no indication in FvJ that Jason coming out of the ground is meant to reference him being pulled under in Jason Goes to Hell. If that was the case, then the locations are completely different. The second part of the original research is even assuming that Freddy vs. Jason takes place in the same world. With exception to the basic backstory each character has, there are no references to previous films or storylines. Jason is considered a "legend" in Springwood, yet in Jason Goes to Hell he's clearly so well known by that point that it would be hard to imagine no one knows who he is except one lone cop and it's only been 10 years since he supposedly "disappeared". FvJ "indicates" that Jason's killing spree took place so long before that when he does appear it's assumed it's a "copy cat" and not actually the real person. So, a part from the film falling between Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X on a yearly timeline, there's no mention of any previous film to indicate that it has any relationship with any previous film.
In addition, the scene at the end of Jason Goes to Hell did not spark the creation of Freddy vs. Jason. The discussion of a versus film was being worked on way back when New Blood came out. That was years before Jason Goes to Hell was even a drunk glaze on the film franchise radar. Read Crystal Lake Memories, they were trying to get that versus film going since the late 80s. Once New Line bought the Friday the 13th franchise it was easier, but then they couldn't get a good story. So they made Jason Goes to Hell and Freddy's Dead to keep life in both franchises while they tried to figure a story out. Freddy's arm at the end is intended to be a gag, as stated in Crystal Lake Memories. When they couldn't get a story finished by the end of the 90s, they decided to make Jason X and intentionally pushed it back into the future so that it would not confuse fans in case they ever got FvJ off the ground. Then Jason X sat on the shelf for over a year before they ever released it. By that time, they finally had a story to work with on FvJ and thus it was released in 2003.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 02:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Again, you're both using a lot of original research to try and tie films together. If your statement starts with, "it's obvious" then you're already on the path of original research. If you disagree so much, feel free to start a discussion at either WP:HORROR or WP:FILM regarding what you would like the page to say, and why you feel that it is not original research to say such a thing.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:55, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Jabrona, I have started a debate thread under the talk for Jason's article, where people give their views on both sides. You might want to check it out. I'm sure Bignole won't be able to miss it easily. I must say, if it wasn't for you I might've given up but maybe together we can clear this up once and for all. Ghostkaiba297 (talk) 05:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, other people besides the three of us can also give their views, and one other person is on our side as well, while Bignole seems to be alone in his opinion. Ghostkaiba297 (talk) 15:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

April 2011[edit]

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Leave my edit alone cause your just jealous that yours aren't as good--86.46.179.32 (talk) 15:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

leave my edit alone and stop critisizing me as if I vandilized. Plus you are jealous and you know it :p--86.46.179.32 (talk) 20:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

your signs of jealousy 1.Calling me dumb 2.Calling it unessesary (the edit) 3.Dening Jealousy 4.Insulting me as if I vandilized (I said as if! not that you where sayig i was vandilizing) ---86.46.167.198 (talk) 13:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Loser . ;p ha ha!. technically i won the fight cause i made you angry and you ddin't make me angry ha ha!--86.46.167.198 (talk) 16:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Im the user on that Icarly page th user that measged you above i made an acocunt - --Jake M. Yore (talk) 16:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

iCarly Production Codes[edit]

The video did not support you claim for the prod. code. Just because it was uploaded on June 23, does not mean it was filmed the week of the 23rd. The reference you used for the Obama episode supports it was filmed on the 13th however there could've been a week before or a week after they didn't film. Where are you getting that each week is a different prod. code? We need references that state "iStill Psycho" is #408-409 not by the weeks filmed with is OR. - Alec2011 (talk) 22:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Everything you said is considered "Original Research." This is practically the only source we can use for Production Code references as no other sites post Production Codes anymore. We cannot use what you think when episodes are filmed as production codes. - Alec2011 (talk) 00:01, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
I get it. You're welcome for the source. I didn't know which source either until I asked someone else and I did he same thing you did. I used information I could gather up (there's this forum that has Disney Channel premiere schedules but we can't use that as a source as it's a forum). But if you need anything else, let me know. - Alec2011 (talk) 01:01, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

iBalls[edit]

Just because there's a promo on TV is not a reliable source. You need a Physical Reference (Press Release or video From the official website, YouTube) to support your claim. - Alec2011 (talk) 23:23, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: iCarly - Season 6[edit]

I understand that there are new episodes being produced, but I'm not convinced that they are part of season six. If production truly did wrap up last summer on season 5, I'll be entirely convinced. However, there are no sources given to suggest that production for season 5 really is over. The only thing suggesting this is an unsourced sentence on the season 5 article. An extensive Google search reveals nothing other than links to Wikipedia and the iCarly Wiki, both of which are unsourced. Can you point me to the original source of this information? If not, then the only thing suggesting a sixth season is an unsourced statement and a lot of assumptions based on a short sentence on a blog. Kevinbrogers (talk) 01:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: iCarly[edit]

Don't undo my edits without discussing first. This was discussed at length for a week at Talk:List of iCarly episodes#Sixth season, and no one brought any legitimate argument as to why it should have stayed the same. There was no "sudden change." I was doing what should have been done a long time ago. There is only one source that supports a split season, which was a single promo aired before one episode. There are way more sources confirming a single season. Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:35, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

According to the blog post, Dan Schneider didn't even know what was going on, so that can't be used as a reliable source. Every other source still goes by the single season plan. Nickelodeon's press releases, DVD releases, and external sources still use the single season. Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:42, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
It's not very reassuring when the title of the blog post includes "Huh?" Also, a new intro doesn't automatically mean it's a new season. Networks falsely advertise "new seasons" all the time. Since that's the only thing a split would be going off of, there's no reason to split it. Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
It's not just the title; he later said "I kinda don't even know myself." Unlike the 45-episode order for season 2, the recent 26-episode order actually was split up into two 13-episode orders, as made evident by Nickelodeon press releases, external sources, and DVD releases. Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
That article was published in April 2011, between airings of "iOMG" and "iParty with Victorious". The article says "iCarly, which is currently airing third season..." The article proves that the 45 episodes were a single season, and that the currently airing episodes are season 4. This also means that there will be one more season after the current 13 finish. Kevinbrogers (talk) 21:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
The following reputable websites support the single 45-episode season: a highly respected site with show listings, the announcement of the season 5 renewal for 2012, and a Nickelodeon press release. The only thing supporting a split is a single Nickelodeon promo. Promos are incorrectly done all the time, and they occasionally lie to boost ratings. Kevinbrogers (talk) 21:36, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
The bottom line is that Wikipedia goes off of external reliable sources. The only ones out there support the single 45-episode second season. If the press goes off the production seasons, then so do we. No source goes off of "broadcast seasons," which don't even exist anyway. Dan Schneider's blog is in no way reliable when he says "I guess," "Huh?," "I kinda don't even know myself," and "I think." He doesn't even know himself. Kevinbrogers (talk) 21:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if it was accepted two and a half years ago. It's being challenged now. The source fails three of the five requirements listed at WP:SELFPUB: "2. it does not involve claims about third parties." The source claims that Nickelodeon, a separate entity, is making a new season. "4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity." Again, "I think," "I guess," and "I kinda don't even know" don't help the source's case. "5. the article is not based primarily on such sources." The split would rely completely on this source. Therefore, the source fails. Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:12, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Even if it passed requirement #2, it would still fail the other two, and any other editor would agree with me. I'm curious, if you feel so strongly about this, why didn't you bring all this up last week when it was proposed? Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: iCarly - Split Season Defense[edit]

Schneider isn't being very reassuring here, and furthermore, he is making conclusions about a third party when he has no direct knowledge himself. However, it's irrelevant because the blog still fails WP:SELFPUB by criterion 5. The decision to split wouldn't be based primarily on the blog; it would be based solely on the blog. Even if the blog could be used, you said on my talk page that "the blog was actually the only useful thing I could use." There is still way more evidence to support that it's a single season. I listed three such sources above and at Talk:List of iCarly episodes#Sixth season. Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:35, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I didn't say it passed 2 and 4. I only mentioned #5 above because it's easiest to explain. I also disagree with listing the 14th Victorious episode as season two, but the only reason I haven't said anything about it is because I can't find any reliable external sources that agree with me. That isn't the case here. I've cited plenty of sources that suggest a single season for iCarly. I'm not saying that a 2xx production line absolutely must be the second season, it just happens that that is the case here. For example, an episode of Fringe ("Unearthed") intended for season 1 aired in season 2, but we consider it season 2 because of various external sources. In this case, we have no reliable external sources to suggest a split season. "[Dan] heard something from the network" isn't enough to suggest a split. The blog, in this situation, should not be used at all. That's the only thing that says there was a split season, and there are many, many sources that conflict this. Kevinbrogers (talk) 23:27, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
The only evidence suggesting there is a difference between "production seasons" and "broadcast seasons" is Dan Schneider's blog. I've explained many times that the blog shouldn't be used, so any argument that is based on the blog shouldn't be used either. You also can't use the Victorious argument, as that's a completely separate case. They may be similar, but they are separate. It comes down to this: there are multiple reliable external sources that suggest a single season, and the only source that suggests otherwise is an unreliable source from a blog. Kevinbrogers (talk) 23:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Just because he didn't correct the interviewers doesn't mean it's correct. That whole argument falls under WP:OR, as does the speculation that Schneider would have said something about the situation. iTunes doesn't list episodes in seasons; it lists them in volumes. The photos at the top of the pages at Amazon also say "volume." There are still many reliable external sources that say the second season was kept intact. Kevinbrogers (talk) 21:51, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
A volume does not equal a season. If it did, they would have just said "season" like they do on most other pages. I didn't say anything about the split at True Jackson because I'm not familiar with that show. The only edits I've made to that page are just removing vandalism and unsourced statements. You haven't cited a single source that proves that anything you've said is true. I've provided multiple sources that support a single season. Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Volume DVDs[edit]

That's still WP:OR and violates WP:OTHERSTUFF. iCarly is not Futurama. Kevinbrogers (talk) 23:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but the photo right next to each title says "volume." That's not very reassuring. Kevinbrogers (talk) 00:02, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
In this case, it doesn't. I've provided multiple sources that indicate a single season. Nothing there indicates that there is a difference between a "broadcast season" or a "production season." In fact, one of them published just before "iParty with Victorious" even includes the text "iCarly, which is currently airing its third season." I'm just going to put my evidence in a list below.
  • Multiple Nickelodeon press releases, including [2]
  • Multiple announcements of subsequent seasons, including [3]
  • Multiple highly reputable sites for episode listings that indicate a fourth season is currently airing, including [4] and [5]
  • DVD releases of iCarly
  • And more.
There is not a single thing on this list to suggest that there was ever a split. I can assume you will use your argument that these sources are based on the production seasons, and I can say that, because there is no evidence of an actual split, there is no difference between a production season or a broadcast season. Because of this, these sources are listing the production season and the broadcast season. Kevinbrogers (talk) 00:25, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Your tone in your last couple messages isn't helping your case any. I'll explain once again why the evidence you provided isn't acceptable, broken down by point:
  • A new title sequence is not evidence of a season split. Dan Schneider also is not very reassuring. Point #1 fails by WP:OR and WP:SELFPUB.
  • Blatant WP:OR. Having 45 episodes in a season is rare, but not unheard of.
  • What sources? It's not my job to provide these; it's yours. The interview also falls under WP:OR. How do you know Nathan Kress even knows himself? It's possible he doesn't know, and it's possible he just didn't care enough to correct them.
  • The 4xx production line episodes have no bearing on this conversation. This debate is over the 2xx production line.
  • No one is disputing that. As I said earlier, there is no evidence to suggest that there is a difference in iCarly, except for the obvious shuffling around of episodes within their individual seasons.
As for your questions about why I am so anxious to keep it a single season, I could ask you the same thing. Kevinbrogers (talk) 01:28, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012[edit]

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Civility[edit]

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Copyright block[edit]

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You were given a copyright warning on January 14 2011 and told you could not copy plot summaries from other sources, yet today you copied the summary from [6] to ICarly (season 6). You cannot do this. Any plot summaries you add to Wikipedia must be written in your own words. Please be sure in the future that content you add to WIkipedia is compliant with our copyright policies; see Wikipedia:Copy-paste for a general overview. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
The block notice includes instructions for requesting an unblock. Moreover, I watched your page and would have seen any note you left here had you chosen to explain. In either case, you would have been unblocked promptly, I'm sure, had you chosen to appeal.
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Some unsolicited advice[edit]

I looked at your last 100 edits, and saw an edit summary in only a handful. The use of edit summaries can be very valuable, particularly when you are doing something that could be misconstrued. (I haven’t looked closely at the recent edit in question, just accepting your word for it, but there is nothing in the edit summary explaining it because you didn’t add an edit summary.)--SPhilbrick(Talk) 23:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

"Production" season[edit]

A few days ago I changed what you had added to List of iCarly episodes, explaining in my edit summary that sources have to directly support claims and original research is not permitted.[7] You then restored "production season", which is not mentioned in any of the sources, and therefore constitutes OR. Despite it being reverted by another editor, who pointed you to my edit summary,[8] you've again added "production season".[9] I don't know why you don't seem to get this, since we've discussed it at length on Talk:List of iCarly episodes, but here it is again. As per Wikipedia:Verifiability, sources must directly support claims. That means that if the claim says "production season", the source has to say that too, which neither of the references in the article say. To specifically claim that it is a "production season", without a source that says that, is original research and is not permitted. We are limited to reporting what sources say, without providing our own opinions or personal analysis. Accordingle, do not insert "production" into the article unless you can find a reliable source that specifically mentions a fifth production season that commences in 2012. --AussieLegend (talk) 01:31, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I really didn't see what the problem is with this considering that's what it is. A FIFTH production season since it has the 5xx coding. Now I know you're not too convinced of this whole broadcast airing thing along with Kevin and Alec because you guys want things to run by the production labels despite what sources say supporting the split and would do anything to get around that. But we do have to avoid the confusion. The last time I tried to reference how it was going to air as the broadcast sixth season. I didn't do that this time because you reverted that. Strangely before that, I had it "iCarly has been renewed for a fifth production season, that will air as the broadcast sixth season in 2012" that lasted a good while before it got reverted by you once I added in Miranda's tweet to support that it was airing as Season 6. But you're not too fond on cast members' words either. At least if the thing said "fifth production season" then people would know it's been renewed just that to air in 2012. - Jabrona - 05:18 2 February 2012
I think I very clearly explained it above when I said that sources have to directly support the claim and because neither source mentions a "production season", use of "production season" constitutes original research. "iCarly has been renewed for a fifth production season, that will air as the broadcast sixth season in 2012" is very clearly NOT supported by the sources in the article. That's WP:SYNTH. --AussieLegend (talk) 05:32, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

iCarly[edit]

You know, I can see edits made to my Talk Page. Just because you deleted your comment, doesn't mean I cannot see it. Do I care that you eavesdropped? No. Because that just goes to show that every time something about the merge has come up elsewhere than the iCarly Talk page, you must comment on it. We've provided more than enough information and just because you present people on "tv.com" and other sites just to come to Wikipedia to say your sources are better without showing them our information is shallow.

Also that you go to other Talk Pages (Such as Wnnse) and make comments like this "I've seen your edits over on the Episode Page of this show and I applaud you. Apparently this topic is being debated at the moment here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_iCarly_episodes. You can join if you want, but so far I've been the only person really defending this issue with tons of evidence to support it against AussieLegend, Kevinbrogers, and Alec2011 who are doing their absolute best to ignore it all and have Seasons 2 and 3 merged because sources using the production labels to reference the upcoming season as "Season 5" and think there isn't a broadcast or production cycle. I already had two other people on my side and they have two other people. I think you'll be a big support in this so can you be willing to read through it all (there's a lot but nothing you don't want to miss) and give your input? After seeing all of the evidence I presented I'm pretty sure you'll defend this cause." This is shallow. You're not even presenting "our" sources but ONLY yours! You're not giving both sides. They aren't going to read all those "paragraphs" everyone made, you have to present BOTH sides and NOT just yours.

How can we take you seriously when you think the rules don't apply in this situation? Also you newest comment here "The codes and the DVD labels are just accounting for their production cycle, not airing cycle, and we follow how a TV show broadcast on TV." Once the DVD releases of a show, we go by what the DVD says. The Second Season was released on 3 volume DVD's labeled Season 2. All 45 episodes were in 3 volumes labeled Season 2. - Alec2011 (talk) 05:24, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I'm not saying that on the Meet The Browns to list each "Volume" as a "season" you list all the episodes in each volume as one season. As in iCarly you list those 3 volumes as "one season" (Season 2) since it's labeled "Season 2." The episodes on both Hannah Montana Season 1 and The Final Season are listed in airing order so that's why we use DVD releases as the final say. Also where's the rules that we list by "how they air on TV." DVD listings are the final say in how the page should be laid out. We go by what the TV says at first but when the DVD releases, that's what we go by. - Alec2011 (talk) 06:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
No, that's NOT my say. Don't be assuming it's only what I think. It's what's reality. I've known this WAY before the whole iCarly thing. Most editors use the DVD releases as the final say. The Hannah Montana reference was to show you that they do list the episodes on DVD as to the airing order on TV (as you said list episode pages by the airing order on DVD). About the meet the Browns, it's pretty obvious that they only put 20 episodes on each DVD. It makes sense as why they would only put 8 episodes into one DVD. It's pretty obvious that Season 2: Volume 1, Volume 2 & Volume 3 mean it's all Season 2 on 3 DVD sets. - Alec2011 (talk) 06:24, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
If Nick intended the split season 2 then the Season 2 DVD releases the first half would be released as "Season 2" and the other half would be Season 3 if it was split. If you take a look at The Wannabes, it's obvious one season was ordered for a total of 26 episodes, but it was split between 2 seasons. They kept the 1xx production codes. HOWEVER on their official website it's indicated that a split happened. Nick hasn't stated that there was a split in season 2. Just because there's a new opening, doesn't mean it's a new season. They also haven't specified which episodes were split (if it was even split). All Nick has said is that all 45 episodes were on 3 volumes for Season 2. - Alec2011 (talk) 06:55, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
For one, the Meet the Browns doesn't have anything to do with "the split." Since you think Hannah Montana was n't split it doesn't have anything to do with that we're talking about, the Brown's doesn't either. That's a different case. Also you indicate that iDate Same and Freddie was "announced" as the season premiere because it was the first episodes produced, however iSaw Him First was promoted as the season premiere and it wasn't the first episode produced. Hannah Montana Season 4 Sweet Home Hannah Montana was announced as the Season Premiere but it was episode 402. Just because Nick called iDate Sam and Freddie was the first episode produced, doesn't mean they meant it as the Season premiere. They also never even promoted a "new season (season 4 with the 3xx codes)" all they were called was "specials." So if they just called them specials it's not a new season. So I'm not sure where you're getting at. They didn't promote iGot a Hot Room as a "new season" but it was 301 that wold make it a "new season" but they didn't it was a special. - Alec2011 (talk) 21:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Well on Big Time Rush, Nick promoted "Big Time School of Rocque" as the season premiere where 101-102 "Big Time Audition" was promoted as a sneak peek. You're saying 401 was promoted as the Season premiere because it was episode 401, but that's not the case it was just the episode Nick decided to air next. I'm saying Meet The Browns is an entirely different story. Stop saying "I claim it's the final say" because I learned from loyal editors that it is the final say, you just don't want to believe that. Not every article is laid out that way but more or likely, trusted editor's will say "DVD releases are the final say" not because I claim it. You don't want to believe that we are right. You just want to hear what you want to hear, that a split actually happened. Nick hasn't specified that a split occurred (as you say it was) but if it did, which episodes were split? A new "opening" isn't enough. The I <3 iCarly DVD collection doesn't specify which episodes so that doesn't count. Miranda and Jennette both say Season 6 & Season 5 so their contradict each other so that can't be used to support it. it really isn't up to you to say "there isn't going to be any reverting anytime soon so you can hold your horses." It's up to the discussion and what different editor's will say. If they decide to merge the 45 episodes then THAT's the final say. - Alec2011 (talk) 22:36, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Going with your Gut is Original Research. I'm going with that Nick decided to air 401 as the second episode. To be honest, Nick and Disney are the 2 worst network in terms of reliability. They change info at the last minute, don't advertise "new Seasons" and don't release information correct which causes debates like this. You're tired of this? Aussie, Kevin and I are tired of you trying to say we're wrong and you're right. This should've been done awhile ago but you think you're right and this that "recent" sources don't matter and your "old" sources are correct. Except that Dan said that on his Blog site which isn't counted as a reliable source even if it is his official blog. You seem to think rules don't apply to you. You don't want to take what we say personally. You think that after all this time nothing changed and the season as split all because there was a new opening and NOW you think it has to be like that all because Kevin said something is wrong. I have more to say but I'll wait as I'm going to at dinner now and I don't want to argue at the moment. - Alec2011 (talk) 00:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Woah, woah, woah, why is it you always jump to conclusions. Saying things like: "You can't just dismiss simply because it's a blog. It's a very useful blog a that. The information on it just doesn't matter? A race moment sure does come to mind when I see you say something like that. It's things that like that that should definitely have exceptions here." Yes we can, the blog is on blogspot, hence a blog. If it was an official website that he used as a blog then we can take it into consideration. See we use Eric Dean Seation's official website as a reliable source on Austin & Ally's list of episodes page here because it is his official website. Since we know blogspot.com is a place for blogs and blog sites aren't reliable we cannot use it, even if it is the creator's blog. That's what you don't seem to get. Also pulling the "race moment" is very inconsiderate and I should report you as you are still breaking the Wikipedia Civility rules. - Alec2011 (talk) 05:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, thank you for clearing that up, but please if that wasn't your intent, please use better words. As for the iTunes, Amazon, etc they do list those "double number" episodes as one episode with one number not 2. If the episode aired as one continuous episode with one set of credits, then it should be listed as one episode not 2. Unless otherwise stated by a reliable source that it is 2 episodes aired as one but if it says an hour-special then it should be listed as one episode. - Alec2011 (talk) 20:15, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Well, Amazon, iTunes & TVGuide all list those as 1 episode not 2 or 3. Notice how there's only "10" episodes, not 13. You see they ordered 15 episodes of Hannah Montana (hence the prod. codes go from #401 - #415) however "I'll Always Remember You" and "Wherever I Go" aired as an Hour with one set of credits so it's listed as one episode. We know it was 2 parts as I'll Always Remember You lists 2 directors, Bob Koherr did Part 1 & Shannon Flynn did Part 2. Also if you look here, it states only 10 episodes are on the DVD, not 13. So the numbers are off and they are going to be changed.
If you look at he True Jackson, VP (another Nick show) there was only 2 seasons that Nick ordered BUT they split Season 2 into 2 seasons. iTunes lists it that way as well as Amazon. BUT there's also another reference that supports a split happened here. Notice how it says Season 2 & Season 3 (as season 3 as 2xx production codes). Now for iCarly, we have DVD releases that support only seasons 1, 2 & 3 on DVD as supported here. It only shows Season 1 (2 Volumes), Season 2 (3 volumes) and Season 3. - Alec2011 (talk) 01:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, didn't feel good at all yesterday. Who says Nick & Disney work differently? You may want to take a look at this conversation between Aussie & Me about hour episodes here.
As for True Jackson, only 2 seasons were produced but Season 2 was split. As indicated here, It says True Jackson, VP Seasons 2 & 3. As you see here it only mentions iCarly Season 1, Season 2 & Season 3 on DVD (Season 1 has 2 volumes, Season 2 has 3 volumes and Season 3 all by itself). If it was split, it would be Season 1 (2 volumes), Season 2 (2 volumes) Season 3 and Season 4. - Alec2011 (talk) 22:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I do feel better. Getting more sleep and such so I haven't been around. Not sure what it was. I know there was something going around but I was up all night and slept all day but I do feel a lot better.
I do agree that hour episodes should be listed as one-episode with 2 (or 3) production codes. The episode count is the same (as to what production codes go from #401-#413), however Nick did order 13 episodes but only 10 aired.
Thank you for that information (about the DVD's), I'll take a look at that and get back to you. - Alec2011 (talk) 03:31, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I do, and I feel much better now thank you.
I agree, hour-episodes should be listed as such as well as the films.
I'll look more into the DVD thing, never heard of it before. - Alec2011 (talk) 20:51, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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Ray on The Nanny[edit]

Hi, I have re-added your info (in a different way). Hope you like it. If you want to, you can put the info on the List of The Nanny episodes, under that episode. --Musdan77 (talk) 23:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

iCarly Reference[edit]

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The Jeffersons[edit]

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List of A Haunting episodes[edit]

Hello, Jabrona! Thanks for cleaning up the copyvioed summaries! There may some some close paraphrasing issues remaining, but at least it's not as bad as it was. As a volunteer, I don't feel especially obliged to clean up massive amounts of text that some editor simply lifted from another website with a few clicks. Immediately removing copyvios are what we are supposed to do, and cleaning up after them is secondary (at least to me). That being said: there is going to be a lot more cleaning up to do. It is clearly obvious that at least all of Season 4 was also lifted, this time from the Discovery Channel episode list conveniently provided at the bottom of the page. Compare the summaries here to the summaries here. Looks familiar, no? Word for word copyright violations, every one of them. I'm going to have to contact another editor on how to deal with this situation. The real laziness is pasting these copyvios in the first place, and rewriting each edit summary is a task I have neither the time nor inclination for. I'll let you have a crack at it before I call in an expert, but time is short once the copyvios are discovered, and they need to be removed or corrected ASAP. Cheers... Doc talk 21:14, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! It looks like all of the episode summaries for all seasons were copied in the same way from the same site - very disappointing. Some episodes have been reworked (like "Demon Child"), but the vast majority seem to be lifted right from the site. Oh, boy... Doc talk 21:47, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Time has run out for allowing the copyvios to remain. You've done some excellent work, and the sections you've rewritten have been much improved - thank you! I'm going to start tagging some other sections (like the entire Season 3, etc.) with {{Copypaste}} because we cannot allow the blatant copyright violations to stand. Please feel free to rewrite those sections as you did the others, because otherwise the content must be deleted. Cheers :> Doc talk 07:46, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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Television seasons[edit]

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Have & Have Nots[edit]

-This is Season 3 Tyler Perry said it on Twitter and OWN TV said it on their Vine: https://vine.co/v/MHQ7rEPxWUE