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Feel free to comment (etc). I will reply on this page.

Hi, the professor and I created stubs this morning that students will develop over the next six weeks (Field Apothecary). The professor picked those stubs as they are part of important agricultural trends in the Hudson Valley. I hope this will prevent their being speedily deleted. Thanks. - Baynard

Hi, sorry I'm new and my where we've been page was mistakenly saved before I wanted it to be. So sorry, my bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConceptK8 (talkcontribs) 23:35, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

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Political parties in infoboxes[edit]

Please don't remove the political party from the infoboxes on MP biographies. Infoboxes are there to summarise the information on the page and the key facts about the subject. For an MP their political allegiance is one of those key facts. Yes it does get repeated elsewhere on the page but that's not reason to take it out of the first and possibly most noticable feature of the page. Nthep (talk) 22:36, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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Richard Keatinge[edit]

I can see you've been doing a fine job on removing un-necessary middle names from VC winners, and the middle name is, indeed, not actually needed in general. But I also note "Generally, use the most common format of a name used in reliable sources: if that is with a middle name or initials, make the Wikipedia article title conform to that format." In all the sources I'm familiar with, including the portrait in my grandparents' house (he was my great great great granduncle) he is known as Richard Harte Keatinge. I propose to move the article back to Richard Harte Keatinge.

I suppose I might, tongue in cheek, declare a personal interest in that I might find it mildly inconvenient to be confused with him, even briefly and even though I'm never likely to win the VC or merit a Wikipedia article. Other Richard Keatinges (his distinction made the name popular in the family) may feel the same way. But the name as used by reliable sources is the one that we should use. Would you be kind enough to move the article back, or shall I? Richard Keatinge (talk) 15:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for doing it. Richard Keatinge (talk) 16:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

William Traynor[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you added William Traynor to List of people from Kingston upon Hull I have tagged this for a reference. Can you return and supply a reference that gives his association with Hull, I know his article indicates he was born there but that fact is unreferenced. Many thanks. Keith D (talk) 23:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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Roxboro, Limerick[edit]

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Charles Frederick worth[edit]

actually there is a reason in fact four. 1) His name was Charles Frederick worth 2) his label was Charles Frederick worth 3) his "house" was Charles Frederick Worth and 4) you need to raise such things on the talk page before you assume that you can move it. please undo. Thanks Edmund Patrickconfer 11:30, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Only your fourth reason is convincing me so far. JamKaftan (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
fair enough but please remember ...generally, use the most common format of a name used in reliable sources: if that is with a middle name or initials, make the Wikipedia article title conform to that format... and based on that can I show you I have started a request to move back to the original title, please see

Talk:Charles Worth. thanks Edmund Patrickconfer 15:01, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping me informed and apologies for the hassle this must have caused. JamKaftan (talk) 15:05, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the apologies, all I can say is start a move by saying you want to do it for reasons x,y and z. There are some articles that if you moved like that you would be barred for a length of time no discussion. These names have been arrived at over periods of time and work by a multitude of editors, Charles Fredrick Worth was created in 2004 and has served enquiring people happily since then. Always pays to check and ask beforehand, any delay would be small. Edmund Patrickconfer 19:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Finally sorted and move rescinded to match how the rest of the world lists him and all the other Wikipedia do as well. As I say mention it on talk page first, start a discussion, that way people will work with you. Edmund Patrickconfer 17:22, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Comparison of association football and rugby union[edit]

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Quizclash[edit]

I have no time now but don't delete it. It's Germany's most succesful app.Holger.Waldenberger (talk) 18:12, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Sushil Kumar Soonee[edit]

Hi. The web-page is regarding one of the pioneer in Power System operation of India. The person is holding a key position in Indian Power Sector and has given numerous contribution to the sector at national and international level. It has nothing to do with any kind of publicity or promotion on the net. Kindly don't delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhilsinghal (talkcontribs) 18:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Deleted Medela page[edit]

Hi JamKaftan,

I saw your deletion of the Medela page. I sort of understand it, that it was rather promotional. However, this was purely a translation of the Wikipedia German text.

Plus it was designed purely as an intro to a lot more info that is coming; history of the founder, history of the company, scientific research into breast feeding (which is what the company specialises in), and tons of other things.

If you could put it back it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chrisso14. Chrisso14 (talk) 09:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of List of Flirtatious songs[edit]

I have created this list as it expands on the existing Category:songs by theme. The list entry is a stepping stone into making a song by theme. In the category entry, however, the song has to have an entry into Wikipedia. The list allows you to find out if the song has this entry. If enough songs are in the list they can be moved to the Category: songs by theme. While love songs are a mainstay of the music world they still each have their own unique character. It is no different than songs about trains or cars. So a recognition of this on Wikipedia is a refinement of the encyclopedia and fits into its objective of universally accessible learning and understanding. I was delighted to find that Wikipedia does have songs by topic and theme and I was willing to expand upon that in a small way. Please explain to me how it does not meet the criteria for inclusion. Whatever2009 (talk) 18:08, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

speedies[edit]

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A tiny suggestion[edit]

Hey JamKaftan, I just wanted to suggest that, if you mark a page from the new pages feed for deletion (whether it be through AFD, PROD, or CSD), it might be best to not also mark it as patrolled. With the article List of Flirtatious Songs, the author removed your prod tag, and the article appeared in the Special:NewPagesFeed as patrolled, so it almost slipped by without getting deleted. Cheers, IagoQnsi 20:52, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, IagoQnsi - I guess this is a problem with the Page Curation tool - it must automatically mark pages as patrolled. JamKaftan (talk) 20:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Ah sorry, I am not yet a confirmed user and can't use the Page Curation toolbar, so I didn't realize that was how it worked. My mistake! -IagoQnsi 22:05, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Amirul Hajj[edit]

Thanks for your review of Amirul Hajj but I feel it doesn't come under speedy deletion criteria and request to reconsider. please refer Talk:Amirul Hajj.Mufaddalqn (talk) 07:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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Barnstar for you![edit]

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Speedy deletion declined: Amirul Hajj[edit]

Hello JamKaftan. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Amirul Hajj, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 09:15, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Center of Government[edit]

Hi, I contested the deletion of Center of Government. Could you indicate which other page is it duplicating? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrinkTheKoolAid (talkcontribs) 15:29, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Context for a newbie, pls[edit]

Hi - thanks for your note. I'm new to wikipedia and just tried creating a meetup page that you have marked for deletion. Could you give me a little more context for why it's inappropriate and should be deleted? Tamale2222 (talk) 13:29, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Because it is of no encyclopaedic notability whatsoever. JamKaftan (talk) 13:33, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Deletion Comment[edit]

I was under the impression I can delete whatever I'd like off my own talk page. Has that changed recently? AndyGibsonSon (talk) 19:49, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

" Simply deleting others' comments on your talk page is permitted", from the page you shared on my wall. I like to work off my talk page and have it be a clean slate of what I am working on. I will remove the comments on there for pending deletion notices. Per the link you shared, deleting a comment off your own talk page is proof you have read it. Further posts will not show good faith in trying to let me know you've nominated an article; it is clearly you wanting to control a situation. Please stop posting the same comment on my page. For further reading, read the article in full from the link you've posted on my wall. AndyGibsonSon (talk) 20:02, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
You do not have my permission to remove my comments. JamKaftan (talk) 20:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
I do not need your permission to remove your comments on my own talk page. Please refer to the article you had linked to on my page and read the section in full. AndyGibsonSon (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
I still don't give you permission. Bite me. JamKaftan (talk) 20:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
And, again, I don't need it. 20:13, 15 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyGibsonSon (talkcontribs)
Good for you. JamKaftan (talk) 20:15, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Michael Pritchard (youth counselor)[edit]

Thanks for your feedback regarding the article Michael Pritchard (youth counselor). On the talk page, I have posted a notability rationale. I would appreciate your further feedback. Would it be possible for you to remove the Speedy tag and post it in AfD instead, if you still think the article is not sufficiently notable? Thanks. Peter Chastain (talk) 14:54, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

I think this is now out of my hands, but I'd be pretty hopeful the admins will make the right decision, based on your unusually coherent justification! JamKaftan (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


==Marty Lenz== American Broadcasting Professional

Hi Jam...new here so thanks for the insight and help. So deleting the entire entry because of the link that should be avoided is the policy? If that is/was the only issue was the rest of entry up to snuff/acceptable? Thanks, and I realize there is detail already here, but it is a lot to consume in some cases so your insight, expertise, and time is appreciated.

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Tell me more[edit]

When reverting my edit on Robert Livermore, you asked "where else is that style of intro used?" I don't know what you mean by "style", but I'll explain the edit. I was just trying to clarify the sentence. Livermore was never "an English rancher and landowner" - that is, he never owned land in England. As the article says, he was an English "stonemason's apprentice" who moved to California to become a California rancher and landowner. Please explain your objection and I'll try to do better. WCCasey (talk) 05:44, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. My objection is twofold. Firstly, perhaps we browse different sorts of article on wikipedia, but I've rarely seen someone described as "a native of X who did Y" etc, they are a French/Nigerian/Venezuelan/Chinese soldier/singer/naturalist/clown. My second objection is on the point about whether he was English or not. If he came from England, he was English, regardless of where he did the thing that made him notable. A case in point would be Samuel Beckett, who is (correctly in my view) described as Irish, despite living in Paris for 50+ years, and publishing mostly in French. If you can't see your way to describing Livermore as English, perhaps the compromise could be this: Lawrence Durrell is described as an "expatriate British novelist". He was born in India, lived much of the time in Greece, and died in France, and it later turned out he wouldn't even have been eligible for British citizenship - but his being a product of Britain is nonetheless important. So if Durrell can be described as British, surely Livermore, who was actually born in the country, can be afforded some parity of nationality. JamKaftan (talk) 13:47, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree that the article should note (as it does) that Livermore was born in England, was of an English family, and lived in England to the age of 17. I disagree (as noted) with the wording "an English rancher and landowner". Turn it around and tell me if it makes sense to you: if I were describing an American who moved to England and acquired some land, would it be accurate to call him "an American landowner"?

As to nationality in general, I try to follow the Wikipedia manual of style for biography MOS:BIO. In the section "Opening paragraph", concerning nationality, it says (emphasis added): "Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity); In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable."

The opening paragraph should summarize what makes the person notable. Livermore became notable (as a rancher and landowner) only after he arrived in California, so it seems more accurate (and grammatically correct) to describe him as a "California rancher and land owner". He became a citizen of California when it was still part of Mexico.

If I was writing the article, I wouldn't mention "English" in the opening paragraph, because that's not part of what made him notable (it would be different if the article was called "Early English emigrants to California"). However, because the term was already there, I tried to find a way to keep it there while improving the description. I don't want to deny that Livermore was English - I just mainly think it's a poorly-written sentence. WCCasey (talk) 19:47, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I would use "an American landowner" when describing an American who moved to England. But that's clearly my minority view, so feel free to disregard/correct my edits. JamKaftan (talk) 20:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion nomination[edit]

Hello, I would like to ask why was the article deleted for the second time from Wikipedia. There are many articles presently on Wikipedia of this type. The subject is quite notable for inclusion(non-notability criteria is not applicable). In addition, the reason to include it in the Wikipedia is that she is the person who did the remix of a superhit song, and she got considerable response. The article content was written in a purely encyclopaedic manner(promotional criteria for deletion not applicable to this). Then, why was this speedy deleted? Royalrajasthan2013 (talk) 17:05, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Counties added to biography pages[edit]

Hi,

I notice that you have made several edits to biography pages, presumably to clarify places of birth. However, at least some of the edits you have made are not very helpful.. for example, Birmingham and Sutton Coldfield are not considered to be part of Warwickshire (they are in West Midlands county), Liverpool is not considered to be part of Lancashire (it is Merseyside). These edits are not accurate and are somewhat confusing.

Please could you ensure that the counties being added are those commonly accepted as being the modern ones (I know the structure of counties is confusing).

Thanks!

Shritwod (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

We are not dealing with historical figures, we are dealing with contemporary ones. The addition of the counties in many cases does not add value and it does not seem to fit in with the WP:UKPLACE guidelines. Shritwod (talk) 22:51, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
You're quite right, we aren't dealing with historical figures. I can just as easily cite three people under forty: André Hahn ("Place of birth Otterndorf, West Germany"), Toni Kroos ("Place of birth Greifswald, East Germany"), and Gjorgji Hristov ("Place of birth Bitola, SFR Yugoslavia"). In each of these cases, their places of birth no longer exist in the form Wikipedia rightly refers to. What is the problem with the same standards being applied to British people? JamKaftan (talk) 00:14, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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Chiltern Firehouse[edit]

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Your revert at European Conservatives and Reformists[edit]

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