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MediaMonks[edit]

Hello. I edited the MediaMonks-article in a way that it looks better, in my opinion. Please see if you can agree with that. Regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 19:44, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

There is no problem with your corrections, but I would not remove citations only to slap on a citation needed template, which strikes me odd and even a bit rude. Why do you feel youtube links are illegible as a reference? If the interview was in textual form the result would be no different. Jane (talk) 00:09, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
The problem with youtube-links as citations is that they do not make things notable. Since Youtube has no editorial overview, everybody can put something on youtube and say it is encyclopedia-worthy. Moreover, if you see what nonsense is said in some vids, you can hardly say that Youtube-vids can be considered as a reliable source. That said, please read WP:VIDEOLINK and see if you think that your vids can be seen as acceptable, in spite of what I just wrote here.
And my apologies if my edits looked rude. That was not my intention. Sorry! Regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 08:54, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, I get where you are coming from now. I didn't realize you were thinking in terms of notability criteria. To me, if someone is notable in their field, they deserve a Wikipedia article categorized in their field of notability. In this case, we don't have a category for what they claim as their "field" (creative digital production?). However, for film production they have a IMDb number and for advertising & marketing they have the associated FWA, Webby, Cannes Lions, etc awards. I always try to prove notability per category, but the art of "creative digital production" is so new I am not quite sure which authority control I should consult. What they do is considered an art form, but this is not yet recognized anywhere that I can see. In the case of the links, the party that uploaded the Youtube film is relevant. In such cases I prefer to directly link the youtube permalink rather than the owner's website, which may change at any time. Jane (talk) 11:11, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
All right. I understand your arguments. It wouldn't be my choice, but since I believe that your arguments are valid as well, I'll leave it as you edited it. All the best,Jeff5102 (talk) 13:21, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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Art and Feminism Challenge[edit]

Hi. Thank you for your message. I'll participe. I've informed Wikimedia Spain Chapter and Amical as they have Women Month activities too. One thing, I've read somewhere that the challenge is March 7th and 8th. But the main page doesn't say it. So it could well be that I misunderstood something, so if you could tell me in my talk page in Spanish WIkipedia, it would be great. B25es (talk) 18:51, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Wonderful! And thanks for the tip - I will update the page for the timing element. Jane (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello. As B25es said, he spreaded the word in WMES mailing list. I'll try to participate and promote the contest. And we hope to organise some activity in March. --Millars (talk) 21:02, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

That would be great! Thanks, Jane (talk) 21:05, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Invitation[edit]

Have you heard of the Kaffeeklatsch? It is a test area for women to hear and support each other. The idea came about as a result of a discussion at meta regarding my IdeaLab proposal (yet open) for WikiProject Women.

Now that the klatsch has survived an MfD and WMF legal has said that it does not violate the non discrimination policy,[1] I am looking for women editors who might like to join.

Although I have started a couple of discussions, they are not urgent. For now, the "Please introduce yourself" discussion is more important! I want to take it slow at first and build a small group before trying to address heavy topics or come up with big goals. For now, the klatsch is there as a sort of refuge. I hope you will consider joining, and invite other women editors, too, if you wish. Lightbreather (talk) 22:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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Gendergap v gender gap[edit]

Re this edit [2]: I personally don't have a strong feeling one way or another, though I do tend to like things standardized. FWIW: WP:GGTF is the "Gender gap task force" and at meta, it's Gender gap. I'm pinging Sarah (SV), since I believe she was the one to organize, create the GGTF. Again, I don't have a strong preference one way or another. Lightbreather (talk) 20:39, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Personally I was happy to see that most standard publications refer to the "Gender gap" because it makes it easier for searches to zero in on our "Gendergap". This is the term used in the mailinglist and I think we should stick to it, also for foreign language Wikipedias. The term should not be confused with the Gender pay gap. Jane (talk) 20:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Miss Bentham[edit]

Hi,

Please would you look over my new article, Miss Bentham? I don't often write articles about individual works, and you'll know what the bast structure is. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Interesting painting. It's always fascinating to see what the rich & famous found inspiring. I lost hours paging through the Liz Taylor auction. I bet Warhol had a bunch more interesting works by American artists. Jane (talk) 22:06, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes. And a foot. Thanks for your edits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:26, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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Presentation proposal for Wikimania 2015[edit]

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Hello to the members of WikiProject Women writers! Victuallers and I have developed a proposal for a talk to be presented at Wikimania 2015. It's titled, How to pick up more women -- as in more women editors and more women's biographies. The proposal review process has begun and there's no guarantee that this proposal will be accepted. That's where you come in. Please review our proposal and give us feedback. Ultimately, we hope you add your name to the signup at the bottom of the proposal which signifies you're interested in the talk (it does not signify you'll be attending the event). Thank you! Rosiestep (talk) 21:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

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Barnstar[edit]

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For all your contributions to articles on the visual arts. Deeply impressive and thank you! Ceoil (talk) 22:03, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Jane (talk) 22:39, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Historici.nl for deletion[edit]

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Problem in not getting points.[edit]

Hey Jane Sorry to disturb you again am putting my translated articles with wikidata link on Wikipedia :Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Challenge page but not getting points , would you please help me about what to do ? :( --Sailesh Patnaik  ଶୈଳେଶ (talk) 17:02, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Saileshpat, Sorry! You are supposed to put the points in yourself - I will just count them up next week. If any of your articles turn into red links (becuse they get deleted by your community) then they won't count, but that is the whole reason I opened the challenge for Wikipedians and not newbies - you are on an honor system here!!!. Thanks for all of your work by the way - I just noticed how productive you have been - wonderful! Jane (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Vrouwenproject[edit]

As promised in the Dutch "Kroeg" some time ago: nl:Margo Reuten. Culinary artist. Not a clue what the correct place is to notify you of this article Face-smile.svg The Banner talk 17:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Wonderful - thanks so much! Ik zet het op de challenge pagina voor je. Jane (talk) 17:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Staat nu hier: Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Challenge. thx Jane (talk) 17:29, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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Noodkreet: Kun je vrijdag 27/3 11.00 +/- 13.00 editathon helpen?[edit]

Beste Jane,

Bij Boekmanstichting heeft een editathon op de laatste nipper 10 inschrijvingen, kun je helpen? Na inleiding is er praktikum van 11.00 +/- 13.00 uur. Als je (een deel) kunt, graag!! Amsterdam, Herengracht oostkant 415, net boven Koningsplein/boekwinkel Scheltema tram 1/2/5 Excuses voor laat verzoek, groeten, Hansmuller (talk) 11:24, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Hans, sorry maar ik heb een ander afspraak morgen ochtend! Succes, en ik ben wel thuis rond 12.15 ofzo, dus mocht je willen dat ik inbel of meekijk dan kan dat weer wel. Jammer! Jane (talk) 11:45, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Inbellen enz. te ingewikkeld. Bedankt! Hansmuller (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you, Jane, so much for being so quick to respond to my questions regarding generating a women writers' redlinks page via Wikidata, for creating Wikipedia:WikiProject Women writers/Redlinks from Wikidata, and for the detailed instructions on how to update the list. Rosiestep (talk) 16:50, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Jane (talk) 17:45, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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Sophie Gengembre Anderson[edit]

Hi Jane, I reverted this edit, because the link to the source was removed. I went ahead, though, and returned the wikilink to the author, Ellen Creathorne Clayton. The link to google.books is the exact place (including the page) where the information was found.--CaroleHenson (talk) ~

You can still link to the page that explains the book - Google books is great and a free reference for anyone with internet access, but it is still an external link which costs money for people using Wikipedia Zero. Both are fine to use in the reference. Jane (talk) 17:13, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Jane, I presume this is what it means - [3]. Please adjust if not, thanks, Johnbod (talk) 14:47, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

yes, very good! I am also pretty sure that St. Luke was the patron saint of the saddlers guild, but I will check later. Jane (talk) 15:42, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
OK I get what you wrote now. It almost seemed that being a member of the Saddler's guild was unrelated to the profession of painting, but you just linked to the Utrecht guild article which sets that straight. We tend to refer to St. Luke guilds as painter collectives, but of course that became very problematic around the time of the reformation when you couldn't have patron saints for anything. Jane (talk) 07:21, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Schutterstuk / militia group portrait[edit]

One of many examples on Commons of a "militia group portrait"

Hi Jane, The English term for these is "militia group portrait", which redirects to the same place. This is unambiguous and almost always used in text by native-speaking scholars. I suggest using it as (first time) "... militia group portrait (schutterstuk) ....", then just using the English. Most similar Dutch terms for types of paintings should be treated the same way, though for example Pronkstilleven is harder to find a snappy translation for - "ostentatious still-life" is normally used. This might be put first, before the translation.

I've nominated a renaming for the category: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_April_26#Category:Schutterstukken. Btw, this classic is fully available online:

All the best, Johnbod (talk) 17:24, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Nice link! You may also be interested in this link to a "Dutch Group Portraits" exhibition at the NGA. I don't want the Dutch schutterstukken to be re-categorized as "militia" before this subgenre to Dutch Group portraits is fleshed out more on English Wikipedia. I like the term schutterstuk because it is so specific. The problem with "group militia portrait" is that the term is exceedingly broad, with lots and lots of possibilities, including photos. This problem is amplified by the popularity of the Dutch civic guard portrait as a yearly tradition through the centuries up to today (now a club thing, see for example this club website, just one of many). The point of a category is to make things easier to find, not more difficult. These things we are talking about are like the Nightwatch, but represent a painting tradition that was not specifically Dutch (they exist in Germany and France as well) and not specifically militia (sometimes the roll call of the officiers was deliberately switched around to enable the full council to be represented. By Rembrandt's day, most militia members were no longer members of the Amsterdam city council, but this was still the case for smaller towns. Jane (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Thinking this over, I have no problem with changing the category to "17th-century group portraits from the Northern Netherlands" and putting all the regent portraits in there as well (there is also lots of overlap in the people or family members portrayed per town). There are not that many of articles yet about individual paintings of them, and I think it would be useful to also include 16th- and 18th-century categories eventually. Jane (talk) 07:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Oops! sorry. Putting this comment also on the linked discussion. I will try to keep further thoughts there. Jane (talk) 07:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

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Persondata RfC[edit]

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On Category of Fresco painters[edit]

I still disagree with this category: there are about 3000 Italian painters in Wikipedia from 1500-1800. I suspect over half of them worked on fresco. Many of them worked on sometimes a dozen fresco projects each. For example, nearly all quadratura painters are fresco artists. This category in the last year has only has 200 or so entries, some of them are paintings, others painters.

It has not succeeded nor will succeed in the goal you set forth on the talk page for the category, therefore I will nominate this category for deletion. This will give you a window in which to present a more thorough justification of your goalRococo1700 (talk) 04:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I still don't see your problem with this category. What is so harmful about having a category for fresco painters that it must be deleted because of the Italian painters? They are all still categorized as painters, so I guess I still don't follow your logic. Jane (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Thanks for reviewing A Mother's Duty, Jane023.

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Group portraits[edit]

Hi Jane! I see you've been very busy! For the benefit of the closer, could you clarify how you now feel, about "militia" in particular, at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_April_26#Category:Schutterstukken? Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 14:10, 21 May 2015 (UTC)