User talk:Jetstreamer

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Reversion in TAP Portugal[edit]

I don't know what kind of reversion you may have made in TAP Portugal page according to your justification, since TAP Portugal doesn't fly to Tel Aviv, nor any other city in Asia. Nupest 0:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Finding reliable source[edit]

Hi jetstremar I am runaparvin you told me if I want to add anything I have to add a reliable source but how can I add a reliable source changing the destinations? Please help me adding a reliable source but I can't understand why not you changing the page of us-bangla airlines.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Runaparvin (talkcontribs)

Now 18th worst disaster[edit]

And still the 4th worst *at the time*. Please read the commit / diff information "Jetstreamer" before reverting changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voigty (talkcontribs)

hi, here is the info for KLM year round Bilbao service[edit]

Air France-KLM 2014-15 winter schedule (26 October 2014 – 28 March 2015) KLM continue to serve the routes launched this summer: to Bilbao (Spain) and Zagreb (Croatia).— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Bulgaria Air[edit]

I don't understand what you mean that the "Credit card related stuff isn't notable to an airline article plus promotional tone"? Make sure to read the T&C of CCB-Bulgaria Air co-branded Credit Card. This Credit Card gives special privileges to it's holders when travelling with Bulgaria Air. I'm having such a Card and it gives me:

  • 3-5% discount on the ticket price
  • 46 kg of luggage
  • Business Check-in at the airport
  • Seat Location
  • Special discounts - on-board purchases

If this is not related to the company profile, I don't know what Bulgaria on Air media have to do with it :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talkcontribs)

I meant exactly what I wrote: you added this [1] material because you own that credit card. What are the five points you enumerated above if not promotional? I've reverted the changes again. If you want your edit to stay, please tone down the prose and use more reliable sources, because not all the information you introduced is properly referenced.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
@Mashine1984: I have reverted your edit again [2]. It's off etiquette to unilaterally reinstate the edit without replying to my comment above. Additionally, unsourced stuff persists.--Jetstreamer Talk 17:21, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year in few days![edit]

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@Nahnah4: Thank you very much. Happy New Year to you too!--Jetstreamer Talk 20:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Maps on airport articles[edit]

Why are you reverting all my changes? Do ou have a problem with me? What is your story, buddy??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talkcontribs) 14:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@Mashine1984: If you refer to this [3], there's no consensus for the inclusion of maps at airport articles, as I explained in my edit summary. Regarding the rest of my edits, I always leave a clear edit summary with them. Separately, you should sign your posts.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer, please, note that the first map at all indicating the countries served with flights from Sofia Airport is mine. It took me more than 1 hour to find out how create such a map, how to upload it etc. As there was no such a map before, I decided to create it(this is a map that most of the airports have). Somebody uploaded a new map and deleted my map which would have been OK if that map was correct. On that map there were missing destinations as Dubai and Doha despite that it's written that it showing the served destinations in Europe and the Middle-East. I would like to work with you in cooperation for the common good of delevering accurate information. If you have a problem with the sources that I'm quoting let me know, but let us not play the cat and mice game... BTW I would be happy if you help me out how to make more efficient the edits, because for me Wikipedia is a bit hard to work with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talkcontribs) 14:35, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@Mashine1984: First of all, I have no particular issues neither with you nor with anyone else. I'm against the use of these maps, but if you like it to stay at the article I'm fine with it. I'm restoring it right away. Please also note that there's an ongoing discussion regarding the inclusion of these maps at airport and airline articles at WT:AIRLINE. Your feedback there will be welcome.--Jetstreamer Talk 15:41, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jetstreamer, thanks for your reply. I really appriciate it. You should told me about this discussion since the beggining. If you want to remove, please, do. I don't have a problem with it after you explained it to me. After we cleared it out, I think that now we can start a useful cooperation. Now I'm trying to contstuct the Air Lazur page, so, I'll be very glad if you can help me out with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talkcontribs) 07:17, 7 January 2015 (UTC) @Jetstreamer, can you, please, help me with Air Lazur page? For some reason it have been deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talkcontribs) 08:54, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Date format issues[edit]

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Hello there everyone! Please take a look at these three edits I've made at KLM destinations: [4] [5] [6]. None of them worked to fix the red issue with the date format in the ″References″ section. Suggestions? Thanks in advance.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You need to make sure the format is one of those listed here as acceptable, otherwise the template generates an error. It's rather annoying (especially the "July 3, 2001" vs. "3 July 2001" (note commas) issue), but if you use one of those formats, it should fix the problem. Yunshui  15:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
@Yunshui: Thanks for your response. As far as I can see, the formats used in the diffs provided above match the acceptable ones (either using {{date}} or inserting them manually)...--Jetstreamer Talk 15:26, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
[7] seems like it should have worked, actually. I'm starting to think that the coding for {{cite journal}} doesn't allow for ranges in the date= parameter. Let me see whether I can get my head around the template syntax there... Yunshui  15:38, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh lordy, it uses TemplateData. I'm at a loss, plus I'm going offline for the night now. Sorry JS - you might want to throw that help template back up again. Yunshui  15:50, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
You've done enough, thanks anyway. I'm activating {{help-me}} again.--Jetstreamer Talk 15:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I've played around with valid ranges, and it does not support them. Trappist the monk and Redrose64 are the two CS1 specialists that I'm aware of. Perhaps one of them can help here. Anyways, since this is such a specific request, I'm deactivating the help me and will help you get to the bottom of this. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 18:43, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

{{cite journal}} does support date ranges:

{{cite journal|title= World airline directory – KLM Royal Dutch Airlines|journal= [[Flight International]]|issn= 0015-3710|volume= 159|number= 4773|date= 27 March – 2 April 2001|page= 92|url=}}
"World airline directory – KLM Royal Dutch Airlines". Flight International 159 (4773): 92. 27 March – 2 April 2001. ISSN 0015-3710. 

Date range formatting is defined at WP:DATERANGE. Where Citation Style 1 does not comply with WP:DATESNO, that non-compliance is noted at Help:Citation Style 1#CS1 compliance with Wikipedia's Manual of Style which is linked from the citation's error message help text.

Trappist the monk (talk) 19:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

What {{cite journal}} doesn't support is templates within those date ranges. I've fixed the references in that article. Huon (talk) 19:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
@Huon, Technical 13, Trappist the monk: Thanks to all of you.--Jetstreamer Talk 20:30, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Glad you got to the bottom of this. Yunshui  15:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Re: Ethiopian Airlines accidents and incidents[edit]

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Speedy deletion tags removed[edit]

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Hello. BruceD81 (talk · contribs) has removed all {{db-event}} tags from the articles they created and I nominated for deletion on the basis of failing WP:A7. These are the articles in question:

Please also note that the user's intentions seem to be creating one article for each year. No indication of importance for each of these articles yet. Thoughts?--Jetstreamer Talk 20:39, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

If they are definitely the creator of the articles, serve a {{subst:uw-speedy1}} and revert the removal. If they persist, escalate to {{subst:uw-speedy2}} etc. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

South African Rally Championship pages[edit]

Hi Jetstreamer, to be honest I'm finding this whole business of trying to post of Wiki impossible, too much red tape it seems. I did delete the tags by mistake while updating the pages, but they were tag for no reference and I put references which are genuine and are agreed by many people within the SA rally community. I have put in categories which were requested, so I am complying with every request but it seems that once a request tag is made no effort is made by administrators to check or remove the issues. As far as relevancy is concerned, frankly it is very relevant to competitors and people interested in the SA rally scene, the number of Facebook pages about the sport clearly show that. On the bases of your argument all the Formula 1, World Rally Championship, Indycar, British Touring Cars and other motorsport pages should also be removed for not being of much interest to someone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BruceD81 (talkcontribs) 06:08, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@BruceD81: Hello. You're still not understanding. The tags were placed for the articles not claiming their importance, i.e. why should they be part of an encyclopedia, not for not including references. You need to assess the importance of each article by writing a sentence or two on this. To me, it would be wise to merge all these articles into a single one.--Jetstreamer Talk 12:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jetstreamer, ironically I have been doing that now as I realised that this was probably your point earlier. I was going to expand on these individual years in later years with more information but I'll do that on the main page instead. Can the previous individual pages be deleted now?BruceD81 (talk) 13:34, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@BruceD81: If you are going to merge the articles into a single one there's no need to delete the original pages, you can simply use a redirect. I can do this for you if you don't know how to proceed with this. The first thing you need to do is to start the article that includes all the information form the individual pages. Do not modify anything on them until your new article is complete. Only after this we can redirect these articles to the new one.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:44, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok well I've already moved all the data from those pages onto the South African National Rally Championship page so if you would be kind enough to link them that would be great, although to me they are not really necessary any more as they are now in the contents box on the main page instead. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. BruceD81 (talk) 15:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@BruceD81: I'll be doing it right away. Let me tell you that the new page looks much more interesting than having the information split in many different pages. I invite you to click on each of the links below to check that you'll be taken to the article you condensed all the information in.

--Jetstreamer Talk 17:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jetstreamer, yes thanks the page is getting there slowly. Lots of data to add. By the way, I wish to add full results of rallies onto the page too. Is this against Wiki policies or not? I also wanted to point final points tables where available too.BruceD81 (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

TAM Brazil[edit]

Hi, just wanna ask. Is TAM Brazil a flag carrier? I saw some pages that says it is, but in your list it isn't. Can you please provide clarification? Thanks.Dcxnetwork2 (talk) 07:28, 16 January 2015 (UTC)dcxnetwork2

First of all, it is not ″my list″. If the airline is not in the list is just because neither I nor any other editor has found a source supporting this. yet.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:08, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Airport destinations[edit]

Very weird reaction. I am an experienced user on the Dutch Wikipedia and know what I'm doing. Adding sources to the destinations is never done. Why not put the whole page offline, because there's nowhere a source.... On the Dutch Wikipedia, we have decided to remove destinations, because it was not properly maintained. If you continue with removing my contributions, the same will happen here. Iceandsnow (talk) 08:29, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Btw. Using the website of the airline as a source, is often seen as advertising. Iceandsnow (talk) 08:31, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
@Iceandsnow: This is not Dutch Wikipedia. Read WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:27, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Cubana historic fleet[edit]

Hey there,

Most of the Boeing and McDonnell Douglas aircraft listed in that section were never operated by Cubana, but rather wet leased by Cubana, meaning the aircraft were owned and operated by foreign crew on behalf of Cubana, similar to the Euro Atlantic Airways B763 they currently lease for the flights to and from MAD. This of course, is all due to the Cuban embargo, which has been in place since 1960.

Usually leased aircraft, especially wet leased aircraft, should not be included in the historic fleet section of an airline, since they never actually owned or operated the aircraft.

Thenoflyzone (talk) 14:48, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

@Thenoflyzone: Not to mention that the supporting source is not considered reliable. I will remove most of those entries and use Flightglobal as a reference for the remaining ones. Thanks for the heads up.--Jetstreamer Talk 16:50, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Number of countries to which Turkish Airlines flies[edit]

I made the count, and you're actually correct about 106, if both Libya and Syria excluded. I may confirm them, but it's what appears to me to be the case. (Unless we don't count with Hong Kong, which may be fair). But in this case, the number of countries would be 107 (including Syria). Including Syria and Libya, according to the counts I've made, there would 108 countries to which Turkish Airlines flies (or 107, not counting with Hong Kong). I may confirm, but that seems to be the case. (talk) 20:12, 17 January 2015 (UTC)