User talk:Jfdwolff/Archive 11

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Gordon Zubrod[edit]

>>I'm writing Gordon Zubrod. Do you have access to more biographical info? JFW | T@lk 10:39, 12 July 2005 (UTC) Is this the normal way to reply to messages? There is quite a good (touching) "In Memoriam" about Zubrod by Emil Frei in the Journal of Clinical Oncology in Vol 17 (5) May 1999. I believe Zubrod wrote an autobiography with the unusual title "Stairway to surprise" which I've never seen anywhere. Best wishes from UCL. Talk


Hi, you wanted me to name a bacteria that can be seen by the naked eye? Would the largest bacteria count? Perhaps you should refer to wikipedia's remarkable resources on bacteria. A quick search would no doubt reveal that there are bacteria that are visible to the naked. Heck, there's even a link at the bottom of the page (which I put there no less!) that would direct you to a picture of that nasty little bacteria that is very visible to the naked eye. So, I am going to be reverting your changes, and in the future, questions regarding a proposed change belong on a talk page not on the comments of an incorrect change.

Adenosine | Talk 02:01, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

No need to be rude. Errare humanum est. JFW | T@lk 14:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine[edit]

Yes, please do add me to the WikiProject Clinical Medicine. Just out of curiosity where are you in London and what are you specialising in? drjermy 11:06, 14 July 2005 (UTC)


I've been watching the RC to welcome new users and I see you reverting a vandalism every time on the heart related pages. Way to go. Also, looks like its about time to archive. With respect, Redwolf24 14:08, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the guidance for my contributions, I was actually a bit uneasy about adding to such a popular database but I figured if I'm collecting notes on physiology for my course, I might as well add it to general pages on the different topics covered. The coding and programming is going to take a few days, I've already neglected Studio MX and HTML for years now, I used to be so on top of learning proper coding but these days it's just been work at study :)

Kehot Publication Society[edit]

The logo should be allowed like all other company logos. I have added a logo which I cut out from their website. If you have a better quality logo replace the current one with it. --Eliezer 09:16, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Vlina Gaon[edit]

Please see the recent edits: [1]. Jayjg (talk) 07:11, 17 July 2005 (UTC)[edit]

FYI, the above site is NOT MY SITE. I am not related to anatomy/physiology and have no idea even what any muscle is called. I was was browsing the internet to lookup what a particular muscle is called because I had pain in the muslce. After going through many sites that did a poor job, I found that the website mentioned above did "an excellent job" of explaining the details to layman like me. Thought it would benefit others like me to understand stuff easily. So I had added a link to it. It is depressing that people would just delete/ revert the edits of other users without examining how useful the added content is! P. Gollakota (talk · contribs)

This is in response to the post on my talk page. If one cannot add pointers to external sites, that can serve as a reference to others browsing wikipedia, what's the whole point of having the "links to external sites" on wikipedia at all? One can just get rid of all of them, or have a policy that we cannot refer external site on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a fascinating repository of articles but that doesn't mean that Wikipedia should be the ONLY good site in the universe that explains stuff or that it should replace the other sites. There might be others who might have their own reasons for not contributing to Wikipedia and write the articles in their own website instead. That does not mean we cannot appreciate that site and include that site as a good reference for the interested people browsing Wikipedia. By doing that, the number of people visiting Wikipedia wouldn't decrease, or Wikipedia would not become just a "bookmark" site. You've obviously been on Wikipedia longer than I've been. I request you to just take a few minutes to go through that site and reconsider your decision of reverting my edit and thereby removing the link. And let me add that I have nothing to do with the site or that I would in no way be personally benefited by your adding the link.--P. Gollakota 17:06, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for taking time to visit the site and for allowing me to reinsert the links!
I totally agree with you. Wikipedia runs on contributions from the good users around the world but as an admin you must have also faced lots of people who vandalize, advertize their own site and do all such nasty things.
I should've tried to put myself in your shoes and understanding why my post has been deleted, and then should've just tried to explain why I included the link instead of blatantly stating that I was "depressed" at your behavior. I'm sorry.
And BTW, I am an electronics student and I have a site that explains stuff about communications, the contents of which I am in the process of moving to Wikipedia. Just because I realized that an article evolves beautifully when people write it collectively than me writing it alone. I added some content earlier with different login names earlier, but lost the passwords for them. Hence I created a new account. Again!
Got to go! I'll reinsert the links in anatomy, muscle and physiology pages tomorrow.
Best wishes --P. Gollakota 19:22, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome...I finally got around to the new user log as you suggested :). Cheers bcatt 03:32, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Help please[edit]

Hello Dr. Wolff: Could you please delete Category:United States Jewish history because someone (not me) went ahead and anonymously (and without discussion) emptied the categ and changed it into a REDIRECT to Category:Jewish American history to make it consistent with the namings of the other groups in Category:Jewish history. Thanks a lot. IZAK 06:51, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I've turned it into a "category redirect" to Category:Jewish American history. This is done with the template {{categoryredirect}} with the name of the desired category passed as an argument. JFW | T@lk 10:25, 19 July 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for helping me with my signature. --Eliezer | T@lk 11:06, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I had to have a program do this for me. :-) --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 11:24, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I would have done it the real leet way (13@\/3 m3 @ m3$$@63, or even |_&@\/& /\/\& @ /\/\&$$@6&) but I figured that not to many people would be able to read it. --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 11:40, 19 July 2005 (UTC)


What do you think about this Religious_persecution_by_Jews? --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 11:43, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. If you take out all the POV, it won't be as obvious why the article should be deleted. Jayjg (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Nephrotic syndrome[edit]

Just curious why you would not allow the link to be placed to The Nephcure Foundation in the above named article? When researching this condition on my Grandson's ailment I found it most helpful and I thought others would also. HJKeats 22:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. My grandson is still in hospital recovering from surgery, they had removed his appendix, they thought his pain was from it. Only then did they test his urine and discovered his true illness. He's nearly three years old. I agree that the articles themselves require the work and not more links. I read the Wikipedia article first and was really frightened on the Prognosis and then went searching for some comforting information and a degree of hope. Thanks again, HJKeats 10:19, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

copyright, nephrotic syn.[edit]

Hi doc,

Just wondering about copyright stuffs-- I have a concern about the article Total cost of ownership. Posted to the Talk:Total_cost_of_ownership... but no one seems to be interested in this.

I don't see anything wrong with the link HJKeats added... whereas I suppose you could say it is better to link to the source (that being NIDDK, NIH)
Nephron 02:04, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Recent changes to the Peptic Ulcer page[edit]

As per your talk, if this is the standard being applied to these medical pages, I will gather some proper sources, re-edit and resubmit the data. I want the Wiki to be as accurate & factual as possible. TravisOwens 10:25, July 22, 2005 (EST)

preclinical medicine?[edit]

Hi there, I am PhatRita, a medical student and I have been recently following your clinical medicine project with great interest. I have wondered whether there is a preclinical medicine wikiproject? I think there is great potential for expansion on anatomy, physiology and maybe medical biochemistry, genetics etc, and would be a useful source for medical and other students of life sciences.

Currently, the anatomy pages are a mess. There is no overall policy on how to approach a page, whether to use lay terms or profession terms, eg above vs superior. There is also great overlap between human and other animal anatomy. The entry human physiology is currently a stub and was under consideration to be a COTW but did not receive enough votes.

What do you think?

PhatRita 10:51, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

thanks for your reply. this is the bit I'm stumped on. I have no idea how to begin to approach this. I think I'll start by contacting other members to see if there is interest and then place the idea on wikiprojects. Do you have any suggestions? PhatRita 11:13, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I've just finished the Wikipedia: WikiProject Preclinical Medicine page. Whew! Could I add some cross links between our projects? PhatRita 23:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Why, of course! It's not "my" wikiproject? I can't imagine there should be a problem here. JFW | T@lk 06:37, 27 July 2005 (UTC)


I thought you might want to keep an eye on (talk · contribs). Jayjg (talk) 18:17, 22 July 2005 (UTC)


Please take a look at the recent edits to Noahide Laws by User: and Thanks, --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 09:04, 24 July 2005 (UTC)



Re: Breast OK, i'll concede and lose the external link i put on. I am new here, and perhaps it is in a way inappropriate. It's a shame there aren't some suitable images to illustrate diversity in breasts though.

Glad you eventually stopped taking off my bit about size by the way - i think there's room for a few sentences there, even if my first quick attempts weren't perfect (and it's still not, but it's there to be edited now). I wasn't intending to put anything with dubious connatations up, as i hope you realise.

Spute 23:01, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your comments. I know what you mean about Wikipedia being addictive, there's something about coming across an encyclopedia and thinking 'i know more than that' (with topics as diverse as 1990s heavy metal and solid state chemistry, it's not just breasts i know about!) and actually being able to do something about it...

Oh and yes, i wish i knew more about VBH, it's quite a rare condition, and not one i feel qualified to go into in any depth. Hopefully someone else will.

Spute 23:15, 24 July 2005 (UTC)


Found useful table for Nephrotoxicity which seemed to include all of items initially entered, but I wonder if this counts as too great a plagerism and needs reverting David Ruben 19:44, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

The ß vs β was from a copy & paste, but thanks for letting me know about &beta :-) Could you glance at pharyngitis which I had a go at improving and offer guidence on style for wiki medical articles - i.e. am I on the right track and pitching the level of information correctly ? David Ruben 20:20, 27 July 2005 (UTC)


Checkout Bochs or some similar software. You could also upgrade to Windows XP, which I believe has much more compatibility with older programs. ¦ Reisio 02:51, 2005 July 28 (UTC)

I think I have Cakewalk 3.1 running on Win2k, and it works. Contact me... Alphax τεχ 05:44, 1 August 2005 (UTC)


Hello Wolf,

regarding your question about Slabodka - your are absolutelly right. The biggest problem I see here (please dont be offended polish contributors) that ammount of pro-polish contributors is much bigger than pro-lithuanian. I've suggested, in my opinion fair, policy about naming of placenames, but still got no respone (read Talk:Paneriai). Give me your point of view on that.

And of course, I'm going to do a lot more contributions regarding Lithuania.

eLNuko 05:32, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Sjakkalle's dictatorial move[edit]

Hello Dr. Wolff: Can you please research and re-open the ridiculous move by User:Sjakkalle. I have sent him this message: Hi Sjak: Kindly explain your math please at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Religious persecution by Jews: 34 "keeps" is better than 66 "deletes"...the "deletes" had almost DOUBLE the votes and you decide against them? This makes no sense! I will call on others to object to your dictatorial move! IZAK 10:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Reopening the VfD[edit]


Would you mind having a look at the edits of User:DRosenbach? They seem to be from a narrow POV, and not entirely accurate. Jayjg (talk) 19:03, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

First Degree Indents[edit]

What are they? Also, it was my understanding that =word or words= was a header and that ==word or words== was a subheader.Rmky87 23:16, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see. By the way, you're welcome.Rmky87 23:32, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome[edit]

I never really left; however this work does not pay the bills, therefor I'm limited. I made some edits, especially at the top of the "myocardial infarction" page, which you may like, I think they will help get some points across better. MAlvis


Hello! Something suspicious seems to be going on with this LithoLink page. Recently, I noticed that there was a similar post placed on the Reference Desk WP:RD. (Check the page history for the removal of a post by User:Donwarnersaklad). Do you think it would be a good idea to look into this further, or leave it as is? --HappyCamper 06:09, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Nice link[edit]

check out this link: edit-count tool. -- Fintor 08:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Edits by User:JEdgar at Talmud[edit]

You might want to review the recent edits by User:JEdgar at Talmud. Cheers. Jayjg (talk) 16:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

As far as later editing of the Gemara by Ravina, there were two Ravinas. The second, a student of Mereimar, redacted Rav Ashi's second version of the Gemara. The Ravina discussed by the version before JEdgar's editing refers to a close colleague of Rav Ashi. HKT talk 19:40, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Not everyone would agree. "If Rabina was much younger than Ashi and lived to a very old age, the assumption of a second Rabina would be superfluous." (Introduction to the Talmud and Midrash (2nd ed, 1996), Günter Stemberger, page 97.) RachelBrown 07:08, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
True. I was following the position of R' Sherira Gaon, who may have based his position on tradition, rather than an assumption. HKT talk 16:58, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

duplicate content within a page[edit]

Hi - There was a mediawiki bug that's recently been fixed that caused content of a page to be duplicated when editing a section. It appears User_talk:Jfdwolff/Archive 7 was affected by this bug. Just letting you know so you can fix it if you care to. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:18, August 2, 2005 (UTC)


Could you point me at the BMJ PPS article you mentioned? drh 14:30, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

[Found the articles (4 June). Trying to decide if they're worth buying. Do they both contain worthwhile content?]

[Went ahead and bought a BMJ subscription. Unfortunately, neither article was particularly helpful. In fact, the first seemed to contain several inaccuracies.]


JFW - Thanks for the hello! If you're interested in collaborating on any medical/biochemistry related articles, let me know. Some of the articles out there are a big challenge to work on alone. Mr.Bip 17:47, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Neutral Wikipedia?[edit]

Dear Wikipedia administrator

I am writting you about the issue of Macedonia, Republic of Macedonia, Macedonian Slavs (like Wikipedia calls the Macedonians) and the problem between Macedonia and Greece about the term Macedonia. I am aware that this issue is largely discussed here, at Wikipedia, and Wikipedia claims that it is trying to take a neutral side. But, that is not the case. Wikipedia is everything except neutral in this question. In the following lines I will explain you why.

From the text in Wikipedia most of the people will conclude that Macedonian nation appeared during the World War 2 and Tito was the one who 'invented' us. The family of my wife (she is Mexican) read this and asked me is it truth. That was actually the first time I read what Wikipedia says about my nation, which was a direct reason for my reaction. My grandfather is born in 1911th. Yesterday I had a talk with him. He took a part in the strugle for independence since 1925th and he took a part in the 2nd world war. He is alive and personal prove that Wikipedia is full of bullshit and lies about our origin. He spent half of his life proving and fighting for that. He was shot 3 times, all 3 from the Bulgarians who wanted to ocupy Macedonia in the Balkan wars and in the WW1 and WW2. Just a 1 min with him will show you how many lies you suport in Wikipedia.

I tried to edit some of the text few days ago, but everithing I wrote was deleted. And all I wrote were facts. Fact 1. Macedonians (or Macedonian Slavs, like ONLY Wikipedia, Greece and Cyprus calls us) is the only nation of many living in the area concentrated inside the borders of the geographical region of Macedonia. This is a pure fact, something that you can even find on the CIA web page. Can you give any fact to deny my fact? If you can not, why you erased it from Wikipedia? Fact 2. Republic of Macedonia has diplomatic relations with about 150 countries in the world. Wikipedia says that "at least 20" countries recognize Macedonia under the name Macedonia. Guess what? That number is more than 100. And this is an officially confirmed by our ministery for foreighn affairs. Fact 3. Wikipedia says that my country Contraversialy calls itself Republic of Macedonia. This is a pure example of taking a side in the problem. Why you don't say that Greece contraversialy deny us the use of the name Macedonia? If you intended to be neutral, just write that we have the naming problem with Greece, but do not call my name "contraversial"!!! Fact 4. While explaining about the antient Macedonia, its kings etc. you highly support the claim for their Greek origin. I can give you 1000s of facts that that is not truth and I beleive that some Greek guy can give you 1000s facts that those claims are truth. That was 2400 years ago and there is no chanse for us to know the real situation. We can only guess. But, when you give the Greek suported version, why you ignore the version suported by the newaged Macedonians? In this moment I can give you 10 names of internationally respected scientist supporting our theory. If you are neutral, why you ignore it? Fact 5. Wikipedia says that the Turkish Empire were calling us Bulgarians. Strange, because the Turks were recognizing the uniqueness of our nation since the moment they occupied the teritory of Macedonia. Actually, the Turkish history archives are the biggest prove of our existance, history and culture. Did anyone of you ever read anything from those archives? Even on the birth certificate of Khemal Ataturk says that he is born in Bitola, Macedonia. And his autobiography is full of memories of his childhood spend with the Macedonians. Fact 6. Wikipedia ignores the egsodus of the Macedonian people from Greece and says they were running because they were supporters of the comunists. 1/3 of the Macedonians have origin from this part of Macedonia. They were runned away from there by force and you can find many historical proves for that. Again, big part of my family has origin from there. As a matter of fact, my grand-grand father was married to a Greek woman, my grand-grand mother. But, no matter of that, his house was burned and he was forced to run away for his life and the life of his family. How dare you deny this? Do you know that even today my grand father is not allowed to visit Greece, because he was a kid when his family runned away from there? Fact 7. There are about 500 000 Macedonians that live outside Macedonia, mostly in Canada, Australia, USA, Sweden etc. At least 1/3 moved there before 1930s. If we were a product of Tito, how can you explain that even they feel of Macedonian nationality? I have a family in USA which moved there in 1927th. Their ancestors (my cousins) do not even know how to talk Macedonian well. But, they still feel Macedonian. One of them is even one of the financiers of the party of the Macedonians in Bulgaria, trying to help their strugle to keep their national identity. I repeat, first time he visited Macedonia was in 1995th, far after Tito. And his family moved in USA in 1927th, far before Tito. Fact 8. Wikipedia claims that the book of Macedonian songs by Dimitar Miladinov is actually Bulgarian. Have you maybe seen a original copy of the book, printed in Croatia? IT says clearly "Macedonian". Not to mention that the same author wrote one of the most important books in the Macedonian history "For the Macedonian issues", again printed in Croatia, where it clearly talks about the Macedonian nation and non-Bulgarian origin.

All this was simply erased from the database. I didn't erase anything when editing these pages, I support the other side and I do not want to hide their facts. But why Wikipedia wants to hide our facts, which show that we are not a product of Tito's ambitions for the Aegean Sea. In Tito's time, the Yugoslav army was far superior in the region. If he wanted the Aegean Sea, he would get it very easily.

Many things in Wikipedia are very offensive for the nowdays Macedonians. Wikipedia simply ignores us, gives us a new name and supports the theories of denial of our existance, culture and history.

I will try to give you an example that includes with Mexico. I beleive that you know that the Maya civilisation was invaded by the Spanish kingdom. Spanish were ruling Mexico for centuries and millions of Spanish people moved at Mexican teritory. Later, after the liberation war, Mexicans formed its own country. Fact 1. Mayas were living in Mexico (same as Antique Macedonians). Fact 2. Spanish invaded them and great number of Spanish people moved to Mexico (The Slavs moved on the theritory of Macedonia and there was no reported fights or movements of people away from the teritory where the Slavs settled). Fact 3. Nowdays, everyone of the Mexican is aware that they are partly Spanish, but they still have Mayan origin (Wikipedia says that the people living in Republic of Macedonia are Slavs. When there was no reported resetling of the Antique Macedonians, how is possible they not to mix with the Slavs? It is a fact that the nowdays Macedonians are not same as the Antique Macedonians, but they certanly have a significant part of their genes. Same as I beleive that Greece has a part of their Genes, but they are definitly not their direct ancestors). Fact 4. Mexican speak Spanish. Reason: The Spanish culture was superior in that time. (The Antique Macedonians accepted the Helenic culture, including a variation of the Greek language. Reason: the Helenic culture was superior in that time. Everyone who knows at least little history will know that Hellenic and Greek are not synonims. Greek is nation, Hellenic is religion/culture. USA and England both speak English, both are mostly cristians, but they are SEPARATE nations. Aren't they? Same happens to Germany and Austria, or Serbia and Croatia, or Canada and France, or Brazil and Portugal, or the rest of Latin America and Spain)

And here is a comment about the claims of the Bulgarians, that the Macedonians are actually Bulgarians. If that is truth, I am going to kill myself. Bulgarians through the history made the worst for my nation. During the strugle of the Macedonian people for independence from the Turkish empire, at the end of the 19th and begginbing of the 20th century, the Bulgarians were the ones who killed the most of our revolutionaries, including 4 members of my close family which were members of the Macedonian revolutionary organization (VMRO). Whis is not something that I was told by Tito. My grandfather (the same grandfather from above) was in fact a member of the same organization. He personaly knew many of the revolutioners that Bulgarians claim are theirs, including 2 of the leaders: Goce Delcev and Gorce Petrov. They were Macedonians and they all gave their lives for free and independent Macedonia and they had nothing to do with Bulgaria. There was a part of them who were Bulgarians inserted in the organizations, who were actually the killers of the real Macedonian revolutioners, because it was in Bulgarian interest to weaken the organization, so they could take the lead in the organization and later put Macedonia in the hands of the Bulgarians. Thanks god, they did not succeed. Wikipedia claims that VMRO was pro-Bulgarian and the revolutioners were Bulgarian fighters. You suposed to see the face of my 94 year old grandfather when I told him your claims. Neurtal Wikipedia? I do not think so.

At the end I have to ask for Wikipedia NOT TO TAKE A SIDE IN THIS. I am not asking to remove the Greek and Bulgarian side of the story. But, why you ignore our claims, which are suported by many non-Greek and non-Bulgarian scientists and very largely through the web. There are just about 2-2.5 million Macedonians around the world. We do not have enought influence and strenght as Greece has, which is much more powerful and richer country than Macedonia. The Macedonian-Greek question is too hard and too complicated to solve. History can be interpreted in 1000 ways, especially on a teritory like the Balcany, where there are so many nations on so little space. Fortunately, DNA testings are getting more and more reliable and soon it will be possible to be used to acuratelly show the origin of our nations. I hope that then the denyal of me, my history, culture and existance will finaly stop. It is very disapointing that Wikipedia takes a part in all that.

With all the respect, Igor Šterbinski Skopje, Macedonia I sterbinski (talk · contribs)

I am not getting drawn into this. Your spamming of admin pages is noted. JFW | T@lk 06:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)


Hello JFW. I'm afraid that I strongly disagree with much of your message to me and your alterations to my edit to Asher ben Jehiel.

Do you believe that Ashkenazim suddenly appeared in the early 1600s? The Ashkenazi article refers to their existence in the 11th Century, well before Asher ben Jechiel was born. If you disagree with that, please edit that article.

Orthodoxy means subscribing to the orthodox belief system; surely Rabbi Asher ben Jehiel did! While there may have been no reform rabbis (in the modern sense) in his day, there were and had always been non-Orthodox people; he was orthodox and not Karaite, or a heretic like Elisha ben Abuyah for example. The Talmudic rabbi Raba, centuries before Asher ben Jehiel, is rightly listed as an orthodox rabbi.

I have some sympathy for your suggestion that people should not be overly categorised. I draw your attention to the List of Jews, where the introduction explicitly states that it should include people whose connection to Judaism is tenuous and clearly "not a major part of their public persona". Have you campaigned to change this? There are currently 96 people in the category Jewish American actors (I didn't put any of them there). For how many of them is their Jewishness "a major part of their public persona"?

You say that the Rosh became Sefardi when he moved to Spain. There is a List of Austrian Jews, which includes many people who fled from the Nazis and went to live here or in America for example. Should they be removed from the list, because they ceased to be Austrian when they fled? Indeed, you describe yourself as "a Dutch doctor living and working in the United Kingdom". By your logic, you should describe yourself as British :-)

Please e-mail me if you'd like to discuss this further. RachelBrown 09:41, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

OK, maybe you'd better put something on the Orthodox Rabbis category to explain that it should not cover rabbis before about 1800. And remove Raba! By the way, in case you missed it, I also put in a :-) RachelBrown 17:43, 4 August 2005 (UTC)


Hello. A bunch of IP proxies continue to disrupt this article. Could you protect it? (If it's on their version, let me know and I'll fix it first). Thank you. HKT talk 15:56, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the tag, but it seems that the article can still be edited. Just to let you know. Thanks again, HKT talk 16:11, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Indeed! Someone just edited the article (it wasn't a vandal). Could you reprotect? HKT talk 16:16, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, things seem to have cooled down. Thanks for you help. HKT talk 16:52, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Melasma suprarenale[edit]

Hi jdwolff - first, let me say I've been noticing how much work you've put into cleaning up medical-related entries (especially spam). Good work! I'd like to ask your opinion on melasma suprarenale, you're probably have more experience dealing with this type of pages (the rest of the author's pages are suspect as well), be sure to checkout his website. Thanks & let me know how I can help.Hfwd 16:33, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

I only just noticed your post. I've put some stuff up for deletion. Melasma suprarenale is good in itself but needs editing for style and flow. JFW | T@lk 19:31, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look. I believe on rough examination, the article looks like it needs only stylistic editing. However, if you delve into the details, there are a lot of nonsensical information. For example, Wehner wrote about sensitivity of the skin to pressure and called it tribosensitivity, a made up name. He also wrote that trauma-induced pigment is called "melasma schmidtii", another made up fact. And so forth. I tend to believe that everything that he wrote should be read with skepticism - for example, his other entries in Wikipedia include Atromeroptic Law, which sounds good but it's actually a made up law of physics. If you visit his website, you'll see that he has deduced the nature of antigravity, created a new branch of mathematics called eucalculus (combination of euler and a new, seamless calculus), a new data compression scheme based on fibonacci series, etc.
I'm not trying to knock on someone's creativity - it's just that what he's writing is highly suspect. Right behind vandalism, this type of entries are very damaging to Wikipedia's credibility. At least it's easy to recognize vandalism, it's harder to recognize made up facts and inventions.
So, not being well versed in wikipedia's social conventions - what is the norm in dealing with this? Hfwd 18:48, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your input - I'll put up VfD on some of his invention entries. One more question - he redirected melasma to melasma praegnans, which as far as I know a term that he invented (it's not found in any medical references that I have), and then wrote a new entry called melasma. How do I cancel the redirect and revert melasma to the original entry? Thanks again! Hfwd 00:48, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the redirect on melasma. I agree with you that Wehner tends to invent things and that all of his edits should now be looked over. I'll take a look at a couple of them when I get the chance later this week. Hfwd 16:38, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Ritual Decalogue[edit]

Would you mind taking a look at this article? Much apprecited if you could. Jayjg (talk) 20:08, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

kmccoy's RFA[edit]


Thanks for supporting me on my RFA. :) kmccoy (talk) 23:00, 4 August 2005 (UTC)


Yes I agree transfer info to habitual abortion is improvement, two people in a fast sequence of edits left me struggling to edit & insert my own contributions - I waited for the two of you to pause :-) Internally inconsistancy in the miscarriage article on some of statistics (eg 'most threatened do well', yet under relevant sub-section the correct value of 50% proceeding to loss). I've edited some of the statistics and provided UK BMJ & RCOG references. I also moved the types around for more logical progression (ie 'threatened' may lead to 'complete', 'incomplete' may lead to 'septic' and then of course may be 'missed'). In all quite a lot of changes, so any improvement to my English always appreciated :-) -David Ruben 22:45, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Linkspammer gone?[edit]

The "linkspammer" is this guy: User:Jayjg/Disruptive Apartheid editor. Perhaps you could keep an eye on the article, and do any necessary blocks - I predict his rather rapid return. Jayjg (talk) 07:39, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Removed serveral of my links[edit]

Hello. I have posted several links to articles on outside websites, which you have promptly removed and I am curious as to why this has been done. Two of the articles in question are on MDMA and Nicotine and were from I'd like to clearify this. If you need to contact me, please see my talk page. Thank you. Pogue 11:40, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a link repository. There was no indication that the links added significantly to the articles. JFW | T@lk 13:49, 7 August 2005 (UTC)


re Meningococcus infection not being a medical emergency, why not? Having septicaemia or meningitis may kill within an hour unless promptly treated. True, meningitis and septicaemia have their own entries, but if someone decides to search WP generally or the Emergency Medical category directly for the pathogen, then I would have thought meningococcus should be so highlighted. Perhaps this would lead to over categorisation of topics and WP-medical has a convention on this ...? -David Ruben 13:41, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough - point taken :-) -David Ruben 19:58, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Vote for Deletion[edit]

Hi, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Ritual Decalogue. Thank you. IZAK 09:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for your kind words and support. --Briangotts (talk) 17:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


Thank you for supporting my RfA. I will do my best to serve the Wikipedia community as an administrator. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:03, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

User:Yudel Krinsky[edit]

User:Ariel Sokolovsky created the User:Yudel Krinsky account to evade your block. See User:Eliezer/Yudel_Krinsky --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 05:04, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

WP:IDRIVE nomination Obesity[edit]

Thanks for your nomination on the improvement drive. There is a problem however - the page is locked. I usually disqualify locked pages - could you unlock it? I have put obesity on my watchlist and listed it on Wikipedia:Most vandalized pages, so we should be ok while the page is nominated. It would not be sufficient to just unlock the page during the project week, because the articles often get a lot of attention while they are listed. Also, the article needs a nomination template on top of its article page: {{IDRIVE}}. Best wishes --Fenice 06:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


You might be interested in what is being discussed at Votes for Undeletion regarding this article. See Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion#Historical_persecution_by_Jews --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 02:45, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Rabbi Yochanan[edit]

Hello: Could you please comment about which category best fits at Talk:Rabbi Yochanan. Thanks so much! IZAK 08:03, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Passover disambig[edit]

Please take a look at Passover, which someone has decided to make into a "disambiguation" page so that anyone looking for the link to "Passover" on Wikipedia (and there are many areticles with links to it) will now get a Jewish and Christian version/choice. Do you agree to this move and what can be done? As far as I know, Passover is strictly a Jewish holiday and it is most certainly NOT an official Christian holiday AFAIK. Thanks. IZAK 11:49, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I've undone the move and complained on his talk page. JFW | T@lk 12:47, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

New article on Judaisms view of holy people[edit]

Please see my proposal on talk:chabad about starting a new article about Judaism's view of holy people which would combine the parts from chabad Breslov Hasidic Judaism etc. into one article about it. --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 14:27, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Rebbe bios[edit]

Dear JFW, I am a litvak, but I enjoy reading about the rebbes and writing good articles. Thanks for your encouragement. Regarding your question, I am familiar with three English-language newspapers—Yated Ne'eman in America, Yated Ne'eman in Israel, and Hamodia—which regularly print biographies and stories about rebbes. My next-door neighbor, who writes rebbe bios for the American Yated in America, is willing to share his entire file with me. All his articles were published in the American Yated; however, he doesn't know when they appeared nor whether they are linked on the internet. Can we use his research, which is published and not "original" according to Wikipedia standards? (Of course, it would have to be rewritten a bit.) Otherwise, I could see piecing together short bios from the newspapers and books like ArtScroll on a name-by-name basis. Yoninah 17:27, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Let me clarify: Most of the information published in English-language newspapers like Yated and Hamodia are researched in Hebrew books. This research is passed around quite liberally; my neighbor just gave his whole file to a Hamodia writer who is now publishing rebbe bios based on the information. My first idea is to do the same thing—give the information without crediting a source, as you did in your Rabbi Simcha Bunim of Peshischa article. I would never think of printing the bio verbatim from the newspaper anyway, but would alter it for brevity and NPOV. However, if Wikipedia only wants material from published sources, I would have to go the long way and do a lot of book research. Then at least I could cite the source. Which do you prefer?Yoninah 21:56, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
So how would you like me to proceed?Yoninah 23:05, 11 August 2005 (UTC)


Phew, what a great edit you did. With all those recipes & lifestyle lists, no wonder this had been bugging you :-)

In Diagnosis you correctly mention enquiry after fibre, but also for fluids (if only my elderly paients would drink more than 1 cup water and 2 of tea a day!). I thought wise add the enquiry over immobility and medication side effects as this is so commonly encountered. I rearranged a bit the benefits of rectal examination, in part as use of suppositories is purely dependant on stools in rectum or constipation being higher up. I moved the cancer lump to the end of the list.

In treatment I moved psyllium to laxatives section, put warning in about non-medical routine use of laxatives. I reordered the combined list in order of usage (softeners almost never used these days) and gave a few examples. - David Ruben 22:53, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Look in your BNF ! Docusate is a stimulant, not a softener. Softeners are Liquid parraffin or Arachis oil enemas. Macrogols are osmotic agents - yes my local District Nurse is trying switch my prescribing from traditional Lactulose to Movicol, I'm not convinced yet, especially as its twice the price. David Ruben 00:33, 11 August 2005 (UTC)


I made some copyedits; it appears others have been working on it as well. I really think "Nusach" should be split out as its own article; the concept is sufficiently different, and several other articles refer to "Nusach". What do you think? Jayjg (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2005 (UTC)


Have you seen this RFA? Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/FeloniousMonk Jayjg (talk) 18:53, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Removal of Podcast Link[edit]

Hi there - I'd added a link to the site. My wife has M.S. and I'm a professional radio producer. It's not an ad -- we do a weekly podcast for people with M.S. Since many MSers have optic neuritis and other visual issues, we offer a way for those people to connect with the latest research news and so on.

We completely support the Wikipedia concept (are even donors!) so we don't want to step on any toes, but since our podcast is 100% non-profit, I'd love to know why we can't place that link on the page as one of the resources there.

My RfA[edit]

Just a quick note to say thanks for your support. I've long been a fan of your work and hope we get the opportunity to collaborate on many valuable projects. Cheers, Slac speak up! 22:14, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Who is a Jew[edit]

Please see the recent edits. Jayjg (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Heart (symbolism and metaphor)...[edit]

... is an infinite redirect to itself, with no past history. What's going on here??? Alphax τεχ 14:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Kosher foods[edit]

You should probably keep an eye on that article as well. Should the material all be reverted, or is there a way of cutting it down to a reasonable and NPOV size? Jayjg (talk) 21:03, 14 August 2005 (UTC)