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yes, big plans! haha, we'll see how it goes though. i work in a cytogenetics lab so if i can't do this one i should quit. check back later today, i think my one hour time frame is optimistic ;) rhyax 21:16, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

yay, all done. i also had some pictures that make more sense on the Philadelphia chromosome page so I added them there, you should probably look at the placement and see if you like it, it's kinda weird looking to me. also i will probably add more about future directions at some point rhyax 23:53, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Thank you very much for your support during my recent run for adminship. I appreciated it very much. Mike H 03:51, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)


Hi, JFW. I noticed your vote on RfA. Of course, I'm not asking you to change your vote, but might I ask what your reasons are more specifically? I can't recall any specific IRC discussion off hand. Thanks Kate Turner | Talk 00:00, 2004 Sep 6 (UTC)


Just an interested layman. I happened across an article on CNN and thought it should be added to the Erythromycin entry. I distilled out of the article what I thought was important. Hopefully it will be quickly corrected or expanded if I misunderstood!


come to irc. Danny 22:48, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Immunology "Expert"[edit]

I wouldn't call myself an expert (well I might, but that'd be my ego).

I'm studying Biomedical science (health, microbes, forensics & fitness stuff) at Central Queensland University and am completing a course in Immunology at the moment (which just ahd a big assignmnet on TLRs. Because I'm like 6 weeks away from graduation, I'm kind of busy with assignments though. But as I don't have any plans for the eternal break from schoolwork I'll be getting in a few weeks I'll probably start updating pages properly rather than just the typo corrections, and assignmnet-related stuff that I'm doing now.

I'm also not that great at computer syntax, so I'm gonna make sure I've got the real spare time before starting anything big.

Thanks for noticing me. --ZZ 07:26, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

evolution of diagnosis -> diagnosis[edit]

Yes, you're right about merging the two, unfortunately, it means that rest of diagnosis now needs a lot more work to bring up to par with the short history ;) prometheus1 09:35, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)


How do you get the time stamp on your signature? I thought when I made a entry on someone's talk page that Wikipedia would automatically add the signature and time stamp but that does not seems to be the case. So I assumed everyone is just manually adding a signature and time stamp. Is this the case or is there another trick? Thanks. Nv8200p | Talk


Your next reversion of my page will be reported for vandalism --Xed 18:06, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Hi. When considering changing a redirect into a disambiguation page, please consider whether the current redirect refers to a major use. In the case of ITU, almost all of the existing links to it referred to the International Telecommunication Union. Rather than simply change the redirect to a disambiguation page, another option is to leave the redirect and create a new disambiguation page appending "(disambiguation)". e.g. ITU (disambiguation. Then on redirected to page, put a link to that new page. See Central Intelligence Agency for an example of this approach. RedWolf 18:30, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)


Howdy! Yes, I noticed the ongoing editing and had much the same response as you: the vast number of saves made the "diff" function unusable, and much of the added material was not "pitched" at non-experts ( was pretty much unreadable). I was thinking that I'd wait till the guy finished "tinkering" and then go back through and edit. But if it's a copyright violation I guess that's not possible. He didn't respond to any edit summaries that I saw. If I see him on with a stable IP maybe I can try more vigorously to get him to discuss the state of the article. - Nunh-huh 02:27, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

There are a lot of factual errors on the current malaria page. - User:


Thanks for the tip. At the moment I am deep into an edit on seismic retrofit and will get to it ASAP. Leonard G. 04:38, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Thank you for cleaning up my Userpage. :-) -- PFHLai 23:32, 2004 Sep 12 (UTC)


I think we should probably find a place for hemolytic anemia outside the micro/normo/macro classification: you're right that if sever/chronic it can cause macrocytosis (from prematurely released erythrocytes) but most often it's normocytic or microcytic (depending on whether schistocytosis is present). - Nunh-huh 01:01, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hi Jfdwolff,

Since you are an administrator, your help is needed here. There has been a category duplication and one of them needs to be renamed or deleted. There is a category - Category:Human rights (which sticks to its definition). It has a comprehensive list of human rights related articles. While there is another category - Category:Human Rights (rights with capital 'R') which has no articles with human rights, but those related to feminism. The category Human Rights should probably be removed or renamed to Gender politics. Robin klein 06:14, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for your nomination, and for your support. I've already run into a situation that I'm looking for advice on; has been making highly POV edits to Arab-Israeli conflict and Israeli-Palestinian conflict (some of which have been reverted by a number of admins). This editor has been extremely persistent, so I've protected the articles for now; what should be done next? Any advice or guidance would be helpful, as you know I'm quite new at this. Jayjg 18:48, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome[edit]

Doctor, I noticed you're leading the effort to delete my article about TMS. I can assure you that Dr. Lawrence Israel Sank is not the only one who believes in TMS. I know hundreds of guys who are grateful that he wrote that article, that I built a web site around it, and that Wikipedia is making a summary of it widely available to the online community.

Surely the article can be edited to meet your standards for scholarship. Remember, the germ theory of disease was at one time only one man's opinion. Thank you. Doug Doug22123 22:40, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

He is right. TMS is not just the figment of one man's imagination. Over the years, the scholarly peer-reviewed journal "Penthouse's Forum" has featured several purely factual ( and often humorous) discussions of the traumas of masturbation. 01:42, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)

Hogwart's Headaches[edit]

  • Not so much fictional as "jokey"..."Water skier's enemas" were described in the same journal, btw, though probably before your time<G>. And yet rarely encountered.... Wouldn't it be fun to watch someone try and code the doiagnosis, though? - Nunh-huh 22:59, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

A central line is always a crowd-pleaser.<g> - Nunh-huh 23:02, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Moral support[edit]

I've noticed that anonymous users have vandalized your user page several times with raw incendiary comments. You have my complete moral support. I've been the target of inexcusable slurs and defamation too. - Gilgamesh 10:21, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Dr Linkslasher[edit]

OK Dr Linkslasher, please justify the VfD for the Daedalus Publishing article I just created. Dlloyd 21:14, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Conversion link[edit]

Hi. I don't understand what you did with the link on "Conversion to Judaism"?! It worked fine the way I put it in. Please explain. Dovi 16:51, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your reply. There is no other resource that comes even close the usefulness and reliability of this one. It should also be a resource against which to test the development of the article itself in the future. I'll reword with very clear instructions, since I guess you don't like "click on." It doesn't seem to me that deeplinking or the lack thereof should be the cause of a deletion when the link is extremely simple anyways. Dovi 21:11, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)


See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Occupation of Palestine

Offensive "Wiki(Nazi)" "logo"[edit]

Please review the offensive File:Wikinazi.png created by User:Guanabot. Thank you for looking into this as it casts Wikipedia in a terrible light. IZAK 11:02, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

List of publications in medicine[edit]

I wanted to added the papers you recommanded on from Diabetes mellitus to the list. At which section they should be added? APH 06:46, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the vote of confidence! I would love to help out but will be a little tied up for a couple of months with the university term (I only really have time to edit during the holidays). Sorry I don't know any surgeons for you, but if anyone I know becomes a surgeon (and we're talking five years here!) I'll be certain to point them your way.

--Viki 09:10, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Traumatic Masturbatory Syndrome[edit]

Pages on VfD need more than a majority vote to be deleted, they need consensus, one I did not see. In general the minimum needed for deletion is 2/3rds of votes in favour of deletion, and TMS did not get this. Personally I have no opinion on the merits of the page. If you were to list it on VfD again, after a decent interval, and it received enough votes I would delete it without regret. - SimonP 17:00, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for helping out with User:Irate's vandalism of my user page. Jayjg 02:04, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

WikiProject: Clinical Medicine[edit]

Hello JFW. Thank you for asking me to join the Clinical Medicine WikiProject. I am beginning work on a textbook of radiation oncology on WikiBooks, and it's still in its infancy. (In other words, it's nothing more than a table of contents with links to chapters that haven't been created yet.) I anticipate that most of my time authoring will be spent on my pet project, but I would be happy to contribute to the WikiProject on occasion. — Brim 01:57, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)


Hi. The Ximelagatran formula is almost correct, but the phenyl you have there should be cyclohexyl ("hexagon without double bonds"), and the >CH2=O group should be just >C=O. But your formula lack stereochemical information and the layout is not very illusstrative. Me, being chemist, would draw it this way: Image:Ximelagatran2.png. Please fell free to use this image as a model for improving/correcting your own formula and deleting it later, or revert it to the ximelagatran.png, or whatewer you want (following the image's copyright, of course). Mykhal 11:26, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Oh, and I have IUPAC name for you. But when I put it into the box, the page layout was then destroyed because my browser does not wrap the long "word". IT is ethyl N-[(R)-cyclohexyl[[(2S)-2-[[4-(hydroxycarbamimidoyl)benzyl]carbamoyl]-1-azetidinyl]carbonyl]methyl]glycinate. Mykhal 11:34, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have verified the formula with an article which you get as a first link by googling "ximelagatran structure inurl:.pdf" . I was looking into the Merck Index 13th ed., but it is not yet included. But it is in on-line Czech/Slovak pharmaceuticals database AISLP. Unfortunately there are no structural formulas, so one has to decipher the systematic name :). The stereochemistry was also found in the name.
BTW, IUPAC names can also be generated from structures using ACD/Labs ChemSketch 5 (freeware) or CambridgeSoft ChemDraw or Autonom add-in for ISIS Draw, or can be found in Crossfire Beilstein Database.

help needed![edit]

Hello, i'm primordily active in the german wikiprojekt, as i'm a german. i started the portal judasim de:Portal Judentum but have little to no help. I tried to adopt an ideé of the french wikipedia, a navigation-box to the left upper corner of each artikle, but had massive anti-pronation bias esp. from one ex-admin. would you please give me some help, infos or advice for the german judasim-projekt? may you know some dutch- or germanphone wikipediens to support me. I think it would be an enormous improve for the german wiki if it had an projekt_judaism like yours in this brittish-wikipedia!

greetings and thanks, -- 00:31, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hi I understand you were trying to start off a "portal" on de. I'm quite unfamiliar with the concept - the English Wikipedia has no portals, only WikiProjects.
I speak/write no German, unfortunately, and can't think of Allemanophone admins who might be able to help you. If you're trying to insert article boxes, you may have to wait until your adversary has take a Wikiholiday... JFW | T@lk 12:07, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Could you please, as doctor, check last Clonazepam edit by ? He changed sedative to stimulant and think it's wrong. Thanks, Mykhal 17:36, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Please see Talk:Exilarch. Lots of questions, hoping you can answer some. -- Jmabel 08:00, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

More questions at Talk:Exilarch#Status -- Jmabel 18:17, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

Vote: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis[edit]

See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis. Thank you. IZAK 09:35, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Hi. See Wikipedia:Requests for comment/IZAK. Unfortunately "HistoryBuffer etc" is now on a rampage, even twisting the words of admins to suit himself. Too bad that he is misusing the input of well-meaning admins. Thank you. IZAK 03:13, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

New articles up for review[edit]

Please see the latest three articles in pages up for review, in Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism. RK 01:56, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

Operation Just Cause[edit]

Please see my comments on Talk page of that article. Whatever is resolved, the reasons claimed for the invasion should be clearly identified as to source of claim. In general there is no reason to believe that X's stated motives are X's actual motives. To maintain POV, that article cannot be written from the point of view of the GWH Bush administation.CSTAR 04:27, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

From xenoglossophobe - response to comments[edit]

Thanks for the editing and comments. I am a paediatric pathologist with some previous experience in clinical paediatrics. I support the concept of wikipedia and its underlying philosophy. At present I am posting things that I have had to write for various presentations as part of my professional practice (to share the profit from the effort) rather than systematically adding topics. The most recent post was designed to provide the answer and discussion for a histological slide that I had submitted to a seminar (hence the emphasis on histological diagnostic features). I have examined the clinical medicine project page and I am very impressed. As I am currently studying for a degree in mathematics I cannot promise regular support for this project but I will continue to start pages on topics that are not yet included which might form a basis for revision by others. I will try to contribute as much as possible. Xenoglossophobe ==Exodus 34:1-26== 5 Oct 2004 Why did you remove this reference? Are there not morals to the cooking of a goat kid in its mother's milk? You and I know this is another list of Ten Commandments. I gave no personal point of view except the preference of exclusion. You certainly proved that to be true. Charlie Turek magician ==Thanks for your help== Added my 2 cents in 10 Commandments discussion. Charlie Turek 7 Oct 2004


I agree with you but I unless I have misunderstood, the rules from Wikipedia:Categorization (General naming conventions) are:

  • Don't hard-code the category structure into names. Example: "Monarchs", not "People - Monarchs".
  • Choose category names that are able to stand alone, independent of the way a category is connected to other categories. Example: "Wikipedia policy precedents and examples", not "Precedents and examples" (a sub-category of "Wikipedia policies and guidelines").

I didn't like the idea because I really would have prefered:

   Psychiatric disorder

Now if I have misunderstood and really it should be that way, I am happy to go through redoing it. I suspect it would all work much better if we could select categories with booleans such as "Psychiatry AND Disorder" or "Neurology AND Disorder" etc. If we could do that then not hardcoding the category name would make sense. Perhaps that is where they are heading with the software and that would explain the naming convention. For the moment Medicine has the subcategory of Diseases which is why Disorder was available as an unused name. Please canvas this widely and get back to me. As I said, I am happy to do the work to rename it. I only wish there was an easy way. --CloudSurfer 04:03, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I guess we leave it at this not so excellent status quo that neither of us really like. It did prompt me to look up the SOED on disease and disorder which confirmed what I had vaguely thought. Disorder is "usually weaker than disease, and not implying structural change [as does disease]". It would be hard to argue that multi infarct dementia was not a disease but it would be hard to argue that personality disorders were. I guess that's why disorder is used as it covers all options in a field that is so often dealing with disturbances of the mind that cannot be shown to have a clear physical basis with derangement of the brain. --CloudSurfer 09:29, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed that you voted against my RfA w/o comment. I am concerned as to why, and what I might be able to do or say to convince you of my value to the project. Curiously yours, Sam [Spade] 14:09, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I vote on RFA without comment if I have negative vibes about a potential admin without being able to pinpoint. As in real politics, some people vote with their digestive tract guts.
I do not doubt your value to the project, but I think you'd be equally valuable without sysop powers. I do not believe that every good contributor should be an admin, and I've actually proposed an alternative form of honouring good editors (see here for an example). JFW | T@lk 15:54, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for your response. Good policy ideas, altho I'd like to be a bit slower to ban, but still your ideas are in the right (more civility and policy obediance, accountability for all, etc..) direction. I also like your reasoning in voting against me, its something I can certainly live with and take no exception to. Thanks again, Sam [Spade] 16:27, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you :O)[edit]

... for reverting the blanking on my page. Much appreciated! Also I like the stuff on your page, including Angela's ! As for the great theoretical quote, there is a corollary, "we search for researchers who find stuff, and we only find reasearchers who search :O) - irismeister 19:13, 2004 Oct 10 (UTC)


  • Jerry, I find the see also links in Kidney not very helpful. This section should refer to truly related articles, while the overlap in scope between Na/K ATPase or norepinephrise and the kidney article is too small to qualify these articles for inclusion. JFW | T@lk 21:00, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Are you afraid of information? This isn't the encyclopedia for kids. The "NaKATPase", the sodium-potassium active transporter that's most common in ONLY neuron and kidney cells. And it's "Norepinephrine" (noradrenaline) not Norepinephrise, which is a neurotransmitter, and a hormone that's ONLY produced in the Adrenal glands.
    • So about a see also on the adrenal glands? Is that also unrelated? If there were a hundred "see also", and they wouldn't fit there, then you have a point, now please go and put them back.
    • And don't edit MY talk page, add it to yours and let me know.
    • Thanks - Jerryseinfeld 20:41, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Dear me, Jerry. Please do not overreact over something so trivial. This is certainly not the encyclopedia for kids, but your additions to the "see also" lack context. "Norepinephrise" was a spelling mistake (we're all human). I do not intend to put them back: norepinephrine has too little relevance to kidney. A link to adrenal gland or retroperitoneum might qualify. As for the ATPase, this should be in the article body, as it is specific to renal physiology. Someone who has just read "kidney" may want to proceed to "adrenal", but is unlikely to surf on to "Na/K ATPase".

Lots of Wikipedia pages have long lists of "see also"'s and external links, and (as you may see on my userpage) I am opposed to long lists of unrelated stuff at the bottom of each article. JFW | T@lk 06:57, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

    • Well now I know how you feel about it. I applaud you for being very open about it. - Jerryseinfeld 10:26, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

ZIP Codes[edit]

I was not aware the issue had been debated and will desist at once. Ave. PedanticallySpeaking 17:05, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)


Now I've got some homework to do. Thank you for your supportive RfA vote and consideration. Fire Star 14:10, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The last set of Ten Commandments[edit]

Take notice of their place in the narrative. Exodus 32-34 this is the replacement set. There is no reason they have to resemble the other sets of commandments and they do number ten. I have doubts this is only coincidence. I think the author knew exactly what he was doing. Charlie 12 Oct 2004

Please read my comment on Talk:Ten Commandments. You are trying to introduce a new interpretation of scripture. Unless this has been voiced in official media for biblical commentary, it is original research and cannot be included in Wikipedia. JFW | T@lk 19:50, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You dont have to withdraw Xime-whatever. It was a good article, and I am happy to have it in my contest. You may also add other articles if you like. Danny 20:31, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

My nomination for adminship[edit]

Thank you for supporting my nomination for adminship. I will do my best to serve Wikipedia. --Slowking Man 23:59, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

Israel-Palestinian conflict[edit]

"(Israel) in contravention of the Partition plan, began killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinian Arab population. Palestine's five neighbour states then.."

Please see History of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict#The war for Palestine where User:HistoryBuffer insists on inserting: that Israel "in contravention of the Partition plan, began killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinian Arab population. Palestine's five neighbour states then attacked Israel."...When no-one but he says this, and refuses to accept anything else. He also insists on editing-away lots of NPOV's that don't suit him, take a look at [1] please. IZAK 08:37, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Pygmy Marmoset[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Primates has set the standard for all primate species common names to be given with uppercase initial letters. - UtherSRG 16:32, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yes, and thanks for that. However, there is a better way to merge two articles, so that the edit histories of both become merged as well:

  1. Edit the two texts together in the article with the less desirable name.
  2. Delete the article with the desirable name, but don't leave the "Action Complete" page that creates
  3. In a separate window, move the remaining article to the new name.
  4. Back in the deleted window, use the view/restore procedure to restore the old article
  5. Finally, the process may need one last kick by selecting the proper version from the edit history and edit/saving that version.

And yes, this process requires admin intervention for the deletion. Luckily, I'm an admin. *grins* Again, thanks for your interest, and keep up the good work! - UtherSRG 16:44, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ah! didn't know you were and admin. Oh wait, I guess I should have since you deleted one of the two pages before. Yeah, I didn't know about the trick at first either until someone pointed it out to me. Wheee! - UtherSRG 17:23, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

User:GeneralPatton suggests that HistoryBuffer be taken to Arbitration[edit]

From User:IZAK#Opposing Anti-Semitism on Wikipedia: See Wikipedia:Requests for comment/IZAK

Izak, from my own experience, I suggest you now take HistoryBuffEr straight to Arbitration, and demand he be banned from all articles concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. You have a great and compelling body of evidence against him. GeneralPatton 19:36, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Users are asked to please help set this in motion.

Pathetically, HistoryBuffer is now antagonizing more people at Holocaust denial examined, see the "history" of that page and the "revert wars" and other stuff at Talk:Holocaust denial examined IZAK 02:24, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC):

"This article contains an unsubstantiated assertion about the use of term "Zionist" by Holocaust deniers. The Zionist extremist and Palestine denier Jayjg keeps reverting any attempt to correct the false implication that anyone using the term "Zionist" is/could be a Holocaust denier, without supplying any evidence for the assertion. HistoryBuffEr 07:48, 2004 Oct 14 (UTC)"

IZAK, I suggest you prepare an RFAr case for HistoryBuffEr if you feel this will contain this user. On the other hand, I would ask someone else to do it - your record is somewhat tainted by the previous RFM over the "Antisemitism" word. JFW | T@lk 07:06, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)


I just restored a lot of information that Matt Kingston made me take out. Please, DO REWRITE NOW! I always wanted to have somebody edit the work that took me a long time to compile. It does have a few complete paragraphs that I copied and pasted from other web sites, so make sure the rewrite touches every sentence, so we remain with "original" work. If you can add even more information. Great. Whenever I do an article, I always like it to be AS COMPLETE AS POSSIBLE.--AAAAA 15:01, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

  • Hey, Jfdwolff, please don't forget to work on the Flecainide article. Thanks!--AAAAA 12:30, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Hello. To your question about flecainide structure formula.. Our structure and structure in ChemIDplus are the same (try to rotate the latter 60 degrees clockwise and then flip about horizontal axis. After it, the structures are not the same "conformers" - which does not matter at all, because 2D structure formula tells us nothing about it's conformation; but are they are identical chemically.) I often do some "motions" with the structures to have a better layout on page. Mykhal 07:53, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Hello again Jfdwolff: As you can see, User:MattKinstgon reverted everything. User:Rhobyte was also concerned about about copyvio. Do you think you (or any of your friends) can take the previous version (the complete one) and work it enough to both of these "Policemen" (or Policewomen) don't have a basis for copyvio complaints? These people seem to enjoy "policing" more than "building". I would really like to see a very complete version, instead of a skimpy one. --AAAAA 03:03, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • You seem to enjoy copying other people's work instead of writing your own. Rhobite 04:53, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)
      • And I guess you, Rhobite, enjoy being a "Policeman" (or Policewoman).--AAAAA 11:42, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • AAAAA, completeness is no excuse for copying other people's work. Furthermore, the page in its present form is much too long, repetitive and confusing. When I've got time, I will complete my reworking, but please accept that your approach was not the correct one by copying stuff from all over the web. JFW | T@lk 07:40, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Accepted, and that is why I did settle the issue some time ago and did not restore the previous article, until you asked me about working on it. Only then I copied a lot of stuff from my previous long article, hoping to see you quickly rewrite everything. On the other hand, most of the info comes from the manufacturer's web information (3M). My reasoning is that information copied from a manufacturer that can promote the use of a product is FAIR USE.--AAAAA 11:42, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • JFW: Thank you for working on the article. I think that in this world you have 3 types of people. The "Builders", the "Destroyers" and "The Rest". The "Builders" might not always be right in the way the build, but they do generate "wealth" (in Wikipedia's case: wealth of knowledge). The "rest" just uses what the "Builders" built or just don't care about anything. The "Destroyers", sometimes acting with good intentions, just "DESTROY" what the Builders built, instead of moulding or modifying it to leave structures standing. I guess it's less work and it's easier easier to say "That's wrong" and delete everything, instead of working to make it write. Some people seem to enjoy destroying.--AAAAA 23:56, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Very Helpful[edit]

So should it be Gi and Gl then? Or G.i. perhaps? Why is ít Glycemic index instead of Glycemic Index? Give this guy some patients to work on before he cause more damage. - Thanks - Jerryseinfeld 01:31, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I got your response. I'm sorry, if it's policy, it's policy, right? You certainly don't mess with policy; they're the foundation of society and civilization. - Jerryseinfeld 20:36, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, and our policy is also No Personal Attacks. Please adhere to this as well. JFW | T@lk 20:46, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Very Helpful Din Id :O)[edit]

No, I removed the legal threat in an attempt to protect Dan from being Danned (indeed from Din, Hebrew for "judgement"). Alas, this was too late. JFW | T@lk 23:48, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
O) That's OK, JFW! It still worked, as if by miracle :O) Carol Davilla remained in history for many things. But my favorite is his famous quote on two of his colleague surgeons, Athanase (Demosthene) and Dan (yet another Dan). Davilla said: Rather than being operated by Athanase, I prefer to be killed by Dan. Dan operated. It was a success. Athanase became the military hospital director! In the future, if someone edits my user page, and especially bans me, I'd rather have you. Moreover, there is price of a pint of beer for the one who offers me my 100th ban :O) Privileges include brand choice, and back-of-the-envelope dedication for my upcoming book. It's a big surprise! No offense, JD :O) Hippocratic (brotherly) nonhypocritical thanks! - irismeister 12:05, 2004 Oct 20 (UTC)

For the record, I am not intent on supporting ad hominems and legal threats, but I think overreaction to teasing is now the main problem. You have a much wider grounding in the classics. Is there a Wikipedia article on this :-) JFW | T@lk 12:09, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yeah - rebound tenderness :O) - irismeister 12:16, 2004 Oct 20 (UTC)


Hello. The structure formula of clomifene is ready. Plase add a mention about enclomifene, which is the single geometrical isomer (E or trans-) of clomifene (the mixture of E and Z isomers). If you don't like the wavy bonds, we can think about different methods how to represent the fact it is a mixture. Mykhal 19:08, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Update: active are both of them, E- is enclomifene and Z- is zuclomifene zuclomiphene. But I got these information by googling, so you can do.. :) Mykhal 21:11, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)


I oppose Cyborgtosser due to his low edit count (<1000, 150+ on just his user page etc.) Another reason is his lack of interaction. I may not have been clear about what I meant having to resolve something contentious (like Israel/Palestine, or the pages for Bush and Kerry etc.) To me the lack of interaction links to my desire to see what he looks like in dispute resolution. As an admin, I presume he will have to resolve disputes, that's what admin power is about really. I would like to see examples of the kind of things he would do as admin - Votes for Deletion, Dispute resolution and that sort of thing. If he's going to be granted the power to resolve disputes, I'd like to see some attempts at it. I'm not sure what he wants adminship for - if it was for VfD, why hasn't he been active in the Vfd pages? If its to protect pages, why hasn't he ever requested a page protection? And so forth...he's given no indication how he will deal with these things and he hasn't had a lot of interaction. Stepping into an Israel/Palestine debate and solving it was a bit hyperbolic, I don't expect miracles, I just want to see how he'd deal with being an admin, especially when different users are arguing about something. Ruy Lopez 20:16, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Y-chromosomal Aaron[edit]

Sorry, I skim read it the lead was quite poor and I decided that it was some religious nutjob trying to find the ancestor of all the Jews. A couple of minutes later I realised, oops! Dunc| 16:02, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The Prodigy[edit]

Hi JFW. You were correct about the synth name - there is no T404. Instead, the synth I meant was the Roland TB-303. I've adjusted the page accordingly. Thanks for the heads-up!

Ire and curses 16:04, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

ADW Vote[edit]

The vote for General Secretary of the Association of Deletionist Wikipedians has opened. Please visit the page and vote for who you think would make the best choice. --Slowking Man 03:37, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)