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December 2012[edit]

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Teahouse talkback: you've got messages![edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Possible Projects[edit]

Hi Jim, I've read that you are interested about articles related to wood structure or wood works. Try to visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Woodworking and I think this will help you--Wakowako (talk) 05:50, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Wakowako. Jim Derby (talk) 00:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)




Your Guild Article[edit]

I think that your article is pretty solid now and should pass through with flying colors. If for any reason it does not, let me know. I will be happy to create the article for you, there is no reason that is shouldn't go through now. It's well written and the sourcing is real solid. --Sue Rangell 02:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

You may also want me to create the article for you if you are affiliated with the guild in any way, as I am a neutral 3rd party. --Sue Rangell 02:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Mike (talk) 15:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikilink syntax[edit]

Hi Jim, just a heads-up on some of the arcana of wikilink syntax.

MediaWiki (the wiki engine behind WP) forces all page names to have their initial letter capitalised. Because this is then implicit, links don't have to specify it. So linking to an article like Bressummer from within the middle of a sentence works just as well with [[bressummer]] as it does with [[Bressummer]] and rather more simply than [[Bressummer|bressummer]].

It's also possible to decorate wikilinks by using suffixes, e.g. [[jetty]]ing gives jettying, without needing the pipe form.

Hope these save you some typing. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:56, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a million Andy. I had noticed simpler links that still worked but I had not looked to see an easier way. :) Jim Derby (talk) 23:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

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Thanks for your efforts on timber framing. It's a great start on bringing woodworking topics up to scratch. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:32, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


IntegrityBarnstar.png Personal User Award: the Oak Leaf and Acorn Hex Sign
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WikiProject Architecture[edit]

Hello and welcome to the WikiProject Architecture - here's the bulletin - if you don't like it just delete it from your talk page, otherwise, it automatically updates. Please give me or one of the other project members a shout if you need any help. Kind regards ELEKHHT 07:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Octagon house[edit]

Interesting to see your edit recently. I've only see the third edition of Fowler's book, can you tell me what stacked board construction involves? I'm not sure about the Masswall heading, it's not a term in normal use. ProfDEH (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi ProfDEH. You are correct that masswall is not a widely used term. I am still learning how to write an encyclopedia and I am finding that sometimes technical terms which sum things up in one or two words may not be the best choice unless they are already widely known. You or I can gladly change the heading to something like "Wall construction". Mass wall seems to be the more common spelling as I search online. Part of the Oxford English Dictionary definition gives the sense of mass as "...A body of coherent and (really or apparently) ponderous matter of relatively large bulk...". The term is used in construction for stone, brick, horizontal log, horizontal board and plank walls, in other words, walls which are stacked up without voids. I was not able to find a dictionary definition of mass wall but I think it is a relatively common term in the construction industry. [1] Here is a reliable source which uses the term. Fowler simply called the "stacked board wall" a "board wall". He has probably provided the best description of this type of historic carpentry of any written source going on from page 41 to 52 about these walls. The first edition of A Home for All is here: [2]. Eventually I intend on writing articles for board wall and some other types of carpentry currently absent from Wikipedia. The only Wikipedia example I can refer you to now is the article Wildfell which has images of stacked plank construction (I recently edited this article to use the term stacked plank wall). Thanks for contacting me. I have made some edits supported with references only to have them promptly deleted instead of discussed so I appreciate your civility. Jim Derby (talk) 20:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Welcome, let me know if I can help in any way![edit]

Greetings and welcome to Wikipedia, Jim! I've seen your name a few times on the edit list, and seeing as you are interested in related areas (my big ones are architectural history and history of technology), I figured I ought to welcome you. I dropped you a welcome at the Commons, but I'm not sure if you will see it there, so I figured I'd say hi here too. If I can be of any assistance in pages, projects, or general info on where to find things or a second pair of eyes, let me know, and when I have time I can try to help out. Best wishes, Morgan Riley (talk) 19:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Flower of Life[edit]

It took me almost two months to notice your interesting comments, but I have finally replied at Talk:Flower of Life#recent_edits. — ℜob C. alias ÀLAROB 17:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Barns[edit]

Have been lurking for a while on your edits to barn. It's beginning to get a little image-heavy and the see also list is in danger of looking like a category. I think that overall you are doing very good work, but you might want to start thinking about whether it might work better to add more general summary content about barns, and on the specific designs, create some sort of thing like "List of types of barns", perhaps in an annotated chart looking like the one in National Register of Historic Places listings in Lewis and Clark County, Montana. Chart syntax is a pain in the ass and it's time-consuming, but might be the way to handle all the images and the new articles you have on different types of barns. You could also do a similar chart-with-pictures within the existing article, the way we did at Leopard complex. Just some ideas. Montanabw(talk) 22:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. I agree. "Barns" are a very large subject and as the information is compiled I agree the various topics should be discussed in different articles and the list separated or worked into the text. Thanks again. Jim Derby (talk) 12:54, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
If you need a hand, give me a shout. Montanabw(talk) 23:58, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions![edit]

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Translation[edit]

Thanks for the suggestion. Normally I don't do translations from other wikis: I've found that with the exception of de: most of them are rather sloppy on referencing, so that I eventually have to chase the sources as if I am writing the article myself. The topic you suggested seemed interesting to me, however I would not be satisfied with simple translation, for a number of reasons. (May be I am overusing due diligence :-). But I am working on it. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:45, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Merge Miller into Gristmill 2012[edit]

I created a section to address Yutsi's proposal to merge Miller into Gristmill. I added your name as 'support' based on my understanding of your comments in a prior section. If I failed to adequately capture your direction, please feel free to strike my summary or correct it to reflect your opinion.
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<English term for a kind of roof design[edit]

Hello Jim! Since you seem to know something about architecture, perhaps you could help me translate an article from German. If you don't know German, it doesn't matter. The problem is one word that means a kind of roof design: Kreuzdach. It literally means "crossroof", and this, apparently, is a roof with two ridges that cross at right angles to each other, and a gable at each of the four ends, whose lower corners touch each other at the building's corners, rather like what you see in this diagram. Do you know if this is simply called a "cross roof" in English? You can never be sure of these things (Satteldach in German, for instance, does not mean the same as "saddle roof" in English, even though Sattel means "saddle"). Thanks for any help. Kelisi (talk) 01:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello Kelisi. Sorry about the long delay in responding. I was not ignoring you, I simply have not had time for Wikipedia. I tend to have more time in the winter. To answer your question, I do not think there is an English name for the cross roof you have presented. I have a vague recollection of seeing a roof like you show and I think it may be an element of a particular architectural style, but I cannot remember what style. I will look into it more. Thanks for noticing I like architecture. I like being helpful but I do not know German, typically I use a machine translator to get a sense of foreign language sites but often the specialized words I use are not translated. In other words I do not know how much I can help. What article is it? Jim Derby (talk) 19:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
No problem! The English translation is in this article. The original German is in this article. I have tentatively translated the term "cross roof". I'm afraid I don't know where you might find a picture of the Catholic chapel at Stromberger Straße 14 in Daxweiler. Thanks for any help, though. Kelisi (talk) 01:59, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

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Commercially available roofing material[edit]

Thanks for the excellent re-organisation of that article!

Can I suggest that the info now be separated into subsections with proper subheadings?

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Platform framing[edit]

Hi Jim Ref. your change to Dwang, I am just curious about the usage of Platform Framing as I have never head this expression before and I have been around construction in a number of countries. Where is it used? I think the US calls it balloon framing and Australia and New Zealand talk about stud walls. Timber Framing may not have been the best because it may well be steel or aluminium. Not sure we have hit on the right term as I suspect the Platform Frame might be a minority use term that will not be understandable by others. I posted the picture many years ago. Ex nihil (talk) 02:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ex nihil. I took a quick look at your user page and I must say I am always impressed with people who can speak several languages and have been able to travel the world. Wow! As for platform framing, it is the standard method of building houses with wood in the U.S.A. and I looked for a book which gives a good description of platform framing and balloon framing which is Residential Framing: A Homebuilder's Construction Guide, chapter 5. Balloon framing in an American term also. The image I changed the caption on is clearly not a timber frame in American English, I will be interested to know what it is called in other forms of English. By the way, the section on balloon framing in Framing (construction) is not totally accurate yet, but the general information is correct and the big difference between this and platform framing is the studs extend two floors in balloon framing. Platform framing the studs only extend one floor and the joists are laid on wall plates. Each floor level is a platform. I do not know how many platforms can be used, most houses in the U.S. are one or two stories. Stud wall may be the best term to use. Thanks for asking. Also, I have never heard of dwang before so I looked at the American English synonym blocking and there is an article Blocking (construction) which probably should be merged with dwang. Jim Derby (talk) 00:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Retainer wall[edit]

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Driehaus Architecture Prize[edit]

Hi Jim Derby! :) It'd be very helpful if you could support this request (click!), so the Driehaus Prize would be considered to be included at "In the News" every year. So far only the Pritzker Prize is considered, which is a pity for all architecture fans imho. Thank you, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 18:06, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Dutch brick for deletion[edit]

Hi, I see you added a category to this. I suspect it may be a hoax article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Cement[edit]

Hey Jim, thanks for your work on the Cement article. I noticed that some of the history info you added to the "Early uses" section duplicates stuff in the "Modern cements" section just below it. Maybe you could find a way to incorporate both of them into one narrative? AmateurEditor (talk) 01:59, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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New England Barn[edit]

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