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John Cline
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Thanks for your comment on the Justin Knapp deletion discussion[edit]

I came here to thank you for your contribtuion distinguishing between WP:BLP1E and WP:BIO1E and see that your status is semi-active. I suspect you being semi-active is still a good deal more active than I'll ever be, so I hope you genuinely mean that you're dialing back, not exiting gradually. I've been intermittently active for a few years and I've found that learning the policy guidelines is an activity best attempted only with a driver's training instructor! :) Anyhow, if semi-active means that the rest of us benefit from your (no doubt painfully and with substantial effort) accumulated experience, then please accept my endorsement for such a plan. Best, Dictioneer (talk) 18:09, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Every now and then, someone emerges unexpectedly; bequeathing gifts of unprovoked kindness. Amongst those who so graciously have, a cherished few have laid powerfully therapeutic sentiments directly upon inspired prose. You have done this today; wonderfully. And for the stringency of your deed, I will remain near. I changed the message atop my page, for a thing hoped by someone of your comprise is thereby compelled to manifest. I wish I could find words to express my gratitude, and tough I can not, I will not forget what you've done this day. May health and prosperity be yours from this day, and joy be all you encounter; in perpetuity!—John Cline (talk) 20:00, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
My initial impulse was to write a cheeky and uninformative thank you for your kind words. However, I believe the karmic balance of the wikiverse requires broader disclosure: I have previously been involved in a series of edits and talk-page discussions that ultimately drove an editor into retirement. The details don’t matter terribly -- I thought (and still think) I was acting in good faith (as were others), but I will never cease regretting that outcome, even if I understand I wasn’t the sole cause, and may have in fact only been “the last straw” or even just the unwitting accessory to in adding that straw to the editor’s overall burden. Through both your generous response and your resolution to stay involved with the project, you have made my day / week / possibly-even-perpetuity! I can’t undo what happened, either with you or the other editor, but the two sets of circumstances appear sufficiently similar that I can at least feel a step has been taken in correcting a karmic imbalance. As you suggest above, this project only survives through unexpected generosity and unprovoked kindness, which logically leads to the inevitable conclusion that the project can’t survive. Here’s to battling the inevitable! ☺ Dictioneer (talk) 04:02, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 24, 2014)[edit]

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The Tickle Me Elmo toy was based on the Sesame Street character Elmo

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Precious again[edit]

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Thank you, John, for your hidden messages expressing endurance, and hopes that came true, helped by holding the torch and Sanddunes Sunrises, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (28 June 2012)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 149th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, - that was a happier time, - thanks that you at least staying near, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

McKinsey & Company[edit]

Hi John. You previously offered to help on articles where I have a conflict of interest and I was wondering if you could take a look at my Request Edit here. It is always difficult to review requests that involve re-writing pre-existing material, but since the current article has so much unsourced, poorly-sourced, or sources that do not support the content, I know of no better way to get something proper in place while following WP:COI then to put this burden on someone to review a proposed re-write. CorporateM (Talk) 15:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

I looked at it, it has issues, and I can't give it the copyedit it needs right away. I tagged it I hope some of it gets fixed by others, but I will follow up in a few days and see to removing the puffery.—John Cline (talk) 16:32, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 25, 2014)[edit]

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The old buildings of the National Library of China house historical and ancient books, documents and manuscripts

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My apologizes. You are entirely correct. It's in the administrator's closing instructions explicitly. It belonged at the holding cell until that was completed. I completely misunderstood's Payne's comments about going live with a new version, I thought it wasn't settled yet. Is there anything I can do to help? There's only one trans left and that's at the WikiProject's talk page about the template's deletion itself. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:21, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for that reply. I appreciate your willingness to help clean up any mess that might remain. I happened to notice the close on my watchlist in close proximity to the deletion and removed the links in relative short order. I just wanted to ensure that I wasn't mistaken. I think your mistake is entirely understandable, and I bear no animosity whatsoever for glimpsing your human side, which is assured to err from time to time, as mine is as well. Cheers.—John Cline (talk) 22:33, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 26, 2014)[edit]

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Anubis, the jackal headed god of ancient Egypt

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Thanks[edit]

for that non-admin close. He'd asked on my talk page for advice recently about standing, and got a resounding 'not yet' from me, MelanieN and whatever name The Panda was using. I believe he was told the same by others on their pages. You put it very well. Peridon (talk) 14:51, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for closing RfA[edit]

As I always try to live for Wikipedia, tirelessly contributed, being active every time almost 10 to 15 hours in a day, fighting against vandalism, failed only due to account reason even with 2000+edits just in 2-months. Tried to learn Wikipedia policies for couple of years, each and every policy. But no body were going to accept it except some of my admins who really appreciate my work. Everyone were considering that I have no experience, no knowledge about policies etc. It was dishearten to me ever I could have face. My dream was to fight against vandalism, build up the Wikipedia and just requested for admin rights so that I can easily perform my job, but simply failed and in rewards I got only WP:NOTNOW. Because I promised to my sir jimfbleak that I would get success but simply failed due to account reason. I also promised at RfA that I'll not use any admin tool/right against policy but no one were ready to accept due to some suspections( I don't know why?). I am speechless. You have made me failure today. After couple of years experience, you made me realize that I am not ready at this time, to assume the role of an administrator. I was trying to do everything only for Wikipedia, that's why I asked for RfA but I think Wikipedia don't need me. I won't come again and decided to stop editing from now, thanks to all A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 14:52, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

The absolute worst thing that could come out of this, would be for you to interpret the RfA as a declaration against your status as an editor amongst us. I understand how you could feel this is the case, but I assure you; it is not! I hope you will not allow this to end what began with such promise. Sincerely.—John Cline (talk) 15:07, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Everything I mentioned in RfA, what I want to do in the future. Since I'm focused to my field, I would have used admin tools and rights against vandalism. I've much experiance that an admin can have, being new account editor is not a matter, I assume good faith, but you should have considered my intentions and experiance. I also said that if any of you find anything wrong during my admin action, just remove me from Wikipedia at that moment. I gurantees you about everything and you can also see my contribution against vandalism. Every person has its own working field. I could have done better if I had become an admin. I'm not new, I've learned policies for couple of years A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 17:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I have no doubt that your intentions were of good faith. No one who commented at your RfA implied anything contrary. In fact, most commented that your zeal for the project was admirable. I have read several comments from editors advising you not to attempt an RfA so soon, and have to wonder why you didn't see that as good counsel. At least, you would have known that the odds were not in your favor. Yet it seems that you had very high expectations. In all fairness, that was unreasonable. Remember as well, assumptions of good faith go in all directions. You shouldn't presume to know what I considered, and you most certainly shouldn't act on a presumption by telling me what I should have done. I assure you, I gave your situation ample consideration. I was even bothered emotionally at feeling your pain. Best.—John Cline (talk) 20:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 June 2014[edit]


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Got it; thanks.—John Cline (talk) 12:39, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 27, 2014)[edit]

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Reconstruction of the head of Java Man

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Hello[edit]

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I've noticed you, too, use huggle. *waves* I dream of horses @ 06:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes indeed. I have used Huggle for quite a while and I really like the new format, though there are aspects I am still learning. I encountered my first vandal who exceeded a level 4 warning with the new format and though I need to research it more, I think it needs some improvements with its manner of reporting such users to wp:aiv; compared to what I remember the previous format was proficient at doing. Cheers.—John Cline (talk) 06:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree with that--if I recall correctly, the previous of huggle seemed to report vandals automatically. --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 08:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Yet another barnstar for you![edit]

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Many Thanks[edit]

Really appreciate your advice on how to manage my contributions. - Kent Lawrence Kllwiki (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

You are certainly welcome; indeed I am inclined to say: "I appreciate your contributions to improve this encyclopedia" as well. I've just completed a cursory review of Nils Otto Myklestad, and it is genuinely a fine article for you to have crafted as a new editor. At the same time, there are always ways to improve an article further. I am happy to assist you in any area where you may have questions, and you are more than welcome to ask them on my talk page, at any time. In no time at all, I am certain that you will be the one striving to help others. There is only one "foolish question", and that is the one never asked, so do feel free to ask all of the ones that are not foolish, and I'll help with an answer. Fair enough? Happy editing.—John Cline (talk) 20:04, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia and its contributors such as you are making a remarkable engine for learning and because I think it's a durable institution, I wanted record the contributions of N O Myklestad. I will certainly call on your help in the future. Best regards. Kllwiki (talk) 21:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

You've got mail![edit]

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Thank you Nikkimaria. I know the significance of this message, and am moved towards happiness at seeing it here today. I am off to my email now; grinning. Best regards.—John Cline (talk) 15:19, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 29, 2014)[edit]

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Inserting blasting caps into blocks of C-4

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Thank you, I did post a comment at the discussion. Cheers.—John Cline (talk) 07:25, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

User talk:Poopydogpoop[edit]

<laugh> --Hammersoft (talk) 14:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

John - I've prepared another biography page and will submit it later today. Be interested in your your comments. Many thanks for all your help. - Kent Lawrence Kllwiki (talk) 16:15, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 July 2014[edit]

Mercy of the state[edit]

bot tagged as violation of this Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:33, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

A year and a half after you opposed my RfA[edit]

I am inviting you to leave me some feedback, 18 months after you opposed my RfA. Do you still believe I am not fit to be an admin? Do you believe I have been able to improve past the concerns you have brought up? Do not be afraid of being too harsh, I am specifically welcoming criticism as I believe it is the best way to improve and I am always looking to learn from my mistakes. I am particularly looking for feedback as to whether you have objections to myself lifting the self-imposed 1RR restriction I had agreed to towards the end of my RfA. If you don't have time to comment, don't fret it either, this is nothing I'll lose sleep over. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  19:48, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 30, 2014)[edit]

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A Jazz band plays in a park festival

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This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2014)[edit]

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The Sistine Hall of the Vatican Library

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Updated "my Preferences": as shown[edit]

I have updated my custom signature, as shown in this post's, concluding salutation. Thank you.—John the Baptist (talk) 05:47, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

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Lucky the Dinosaur at Walt Disney World was the first animatronic creation to walk on land

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Sock puppets[edit]

I am Rey Chow's husband Austin Meredith (kouroo@kouroo.info), responding at her request. Since I don't know how to get your email address, I am using this public means of communication more or less in desperation. You wrote "First of all, it is great having you as an editor in our community." I can assure you that she has no intention of becoming an editor in the Wikipedia community. The software forced us to register in order to ask that this "Rey_Chow" web page be deleted -- nothing more than that. You wrote "Of course it is not required that you edit using your real name so you could create an account in a name that does not connect your editing persona with your real life identity." She is horrified at the idea. I can assure you that no falsehood of that sort is *ever* going to happen.

It is definitely news to her that as "a name professor at a major university" it is considered to be open season on her for this sort of public commentary. What sort of world is this?

Please communicate with me privately. ReyChow (talk) 11:04, 10 August 2014 (UTC)Austin Meredith, kouroo@kouroo.info

I will. Allow me half a day to finish my current endeavors. Cheers.—John Cline (talk) 18:10, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

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Sheridan Le Fanu was one of the leading ghost story writers of the nineteenth century

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alleged is not a complex word[edit]

I don't think you need to be a lawyer (as I am) to understand the meaning of "alleged". Oswald was never convicted of any crime. In the eyes of the law, it does not matter that he did not live to stand trial. We have this thing in America called the presumption of innocence. Hopefully you've heard of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.80.158.241 (talk) 06:10, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the Warren Commission? Or you simply disagree with its findings? Either way, it supersedes all presumptions regarding the assassination. Cheers.—John Cline (talk) 06:23, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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A historical map of West Africa from 1707

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Yes check.svg DoneJohn Cline (talk) 01:06, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

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A solar flare erupts from the Sun, an example of solar activity.

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A Nunivak Cup'ig man with raven maskette – in the Raven Tales the raven is the Creator god

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DYK categories[edit]

Hi. There are a bunch of "DYK" related categories, which you created, that have shown up on Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories for months now. These evidently aren't currently being used; do they need to be kept around for some future use, or can they be deleted? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 23:38, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello R'n'B. I apologize for the delay in answering your kind and thoughtful inquiry. It would be fine to delete these categories; they are remnants of a failed endeavor.—John Cline (talk) 09:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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A handheld camcorder ia a typical consumer electronics device

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Your GA nomination of Boots Adams[edit]

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Arches were used in Ancient Roman architecture to build aqueducts, such as the Aqueduct of Segovia

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Notice board[edit]

Dear John,

I was specifically invited to this discussion. Furthermore, neutral point of view only applies to articles. Otherwise discussions on talk pages with differing views would not be possible at all. --84.227.252.1 (talk) 09:29, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Indeed I erred in reverting your edit. I appreciate the kind manner you have shown in pointing this out to me. Best regards.—John Cline (talk) 09:37, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Apology accepted. Have a nice day. --84.227.252.1 (talk) 09:40, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Categories you created are nominated for deletion[edit]

Categories you created are nominated for deletion by User:R'n'B:

► Category:Deprecated DYK templates‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK nominations pending archival‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK/Administration/Category‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK/Administration/Tagged pages‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK/Administration/Template‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK/Category‎ (empty)
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► Category:DYK/Organized Labour portal did you know‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK/Pages/Appeared on Main page‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK/Pages/Empty categories‎ (empty)
► Category:DYK/Pages/Tagged‎ (empty)
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► Category:DYK/Pages/Tagged/Category talk pages‎ (empty)
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► Category:DYK/Pages/Tagged/Template talk pages‎ (empty)
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► Category:DYK/Wikipedia Did you know templates‎ (empty)

To me they look as if they might be used, but I can't tell how. Please let us know if they are still in useGraeme Bartlett (talk) 04:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

@Graeme Bartlett:: See the section #DYK categories earlier on this page. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:17, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2014)[edit]

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A pizza is an oven-baked flat bread typically topped with a tomato sauce, cheese and various toppings.

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