User talk:John of Reading

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Deleting an article by turning it into a redirect[edit]


The Sibot article is a pretty poorly written article about a DJ in South Africa and the Șibot article is very short article about commune in Romania. Was there a discussion about this article that I missed? RevelationDirect (talk) 12:47, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

@RevelationDirect: No, it just turned up on one of my spelling lists, and I stopped to look at it instead of fixing the spellings. The text about the DJ is a copyright violation of the stated source, so it had to go. I chose to restore the redirect myself, leaving the DJ article in the page history. A different approach would be to restore the article, tag it for speedy deletion, and then recreate the redirect with a clean history. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:14, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Speedy deletion and then reclaiming the redirect probably would have been the right sequence, but it all ends up the same in the end. Can't believe that the poorly written DJ article wasn't at least original! RevelationDirect (talk) 01:09, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank You Internet Saftey Man[edit]

Dear Sir, You are singly highhandedly making the internet more grammatically correct, one Wikipedia post at a time. It would have been heart breaking to me to miss lead the youths who would have studied from that link and received false information. You truly are a grammar/astrology hero. Perhaps one day we could discuss astronomy instead... ?

Beast Regards, SmoothYeah♠(that is a spade)

PS- I wanted to change the font but I don't know how. Will you teach me?

PS PS= I'm not hitting on you. I have a fiance. :3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smoothyeah (talkcontribs) 07:11, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for appreciating my efforts! Regarding fonts, I think the best way to set the font is with the {{font}} template - follow that link to see some examples. But don't do this in articles, as articles should be written in a consistent style. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:19, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

multiple Issues[edit]

I create biography page , I am new to Wikipedia, and I have a multiple unsolved issues regarding my page. I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some feedback how to fix this issues.

Nissan300zx (talk) 18:48, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Kiril Tenekedjiev (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
@Nissan300zx: I see that you've received some advice at the Help desk, at this section, already.
I think the best way to improve the article would be to find some publications where other people have written about Tenekedjiev, and use those to back up what is being said about him in the article. This would fix the "primary sources" issue - currently most of the material in the article only has references to parts of Tenekedjiev's own web site. And it would also help with the "notability" issue - if this isn't fixed, the article may well end up being deleted. Wikipedia doesn't aim to have an article on every person or subject, but only on those that other people have already decided are worth writing about.
I hope that helps a bit! -- John of Reading (talk) 20:01, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Paul Levy and the stable distribution[edit]

I saw on your page you know both math and French. If you have some spare time, can u check this Talk:Stable_distribution#Paul_Levy? Lbertolotti (talk) 19:09, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

@Lbertolotti: Where is the French you'd like me to look at? Both the links and are in English. But I'm only claiming "fr-1" anyway! -- John of Reading (talk) 19:32, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

The book cited by Mandelbrot is this: I'll see if I can find other sources. Lbertolotti (talk) 19:39, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Google Books is only showing me the front cover, not the text. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:45, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Paul Levy books are all in French and very hard to find on-line, nonetheless the summary confirms Mandelbrot [1], Levy used the term "stable lois", however "stable Paretian" is Mandelbrot own terminology: "We shall then introduce a new version of Pareto's law which belongs to the class of "stable" distributions, and which we shall designate as "the Pareto-Levy law"[1] Lbertolotti (talk) 21:37, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ B. Mandelbrot, The Pareto-Lévy Law and the Distribution of Income, International Economic Review 1960

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Your help led to a reversion of an edit by a community-banned sock-puppeteer. Thank you. Netscr1be (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! -- John of Reading (talk) 12:23, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

NRHP and {{coord}}[edit]

Thanks for the help! Other members of WP:NRHP and I are tackling the items that you found, and we hope soon to finish cleaning all of them. When we're done, would you be willing to run the AWB query again, so that we can see if we missed any? If so, I'll be happy to let you know when we're ready. Nyttend (talk) 13:42, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Yes, that will be fine. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:28, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Everything is supposedly done, so if you could run the AWB query when next you get the chance, we'd quite appreciate it. Nyttend (talk) 03:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
@Nyttend: Done, nine articles posted at User:Nyttend/NRHP row and coord. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:31, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
That's why I said "supposedly" done :-) Thanks again! Nyttend (talk) 12:16, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Checked everything on that list; the outliers were largely the result of us using a conversion script developed by a wikiproject member, which apparently didn't account for a weird format being used on a few of these lists. Since some of the original findings had a few hundred entries (each!) to convert, and since there were about a dozen not-yet-converted entries between these lists, I'm not going to complain about the script missing these few :-) I strongly doubt that we'll need any more help in this matter. Once again, thanks for the big help. Nyttend (talk) 12:43, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
@Nyttend: I was impressed that you got some helpers joining in - a WikiProject working effectively. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:21, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, WP:NRHP is rather stronger than many projects I've seen, especially with routine non-creative maintenance like this; we sometimes have trouble getting bigger work done (see how many articles are in our biggest cleanup category), but something like this doesn't normally take long, especially because the script-writer can often figure out technical solutions that don't require much human effort. Nyttend (talk) 15:36, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Several things have changed[edit]

Hello, I'm back but these days I prefer to do my work not-signed-in, except for special occasions such as this.

I've been off more than a year. There have been changes. Can you give me a few starter-pointers?

  1. I have come across the hidden category Category:Pages using deprecated coordinates format – apparently there are more than 12000 of them. But nowhere can I find what a deprecated coordinate format actually is. A propos, when I upload pics to wikimedia, it doesn't like dms and wants only decimal degrees. Bizarre and annoying. That is deprecable in my book!
  2. Ditto Category:Pages using deprecated map format
  3. This wikidata thing. Seems like it was rushed out inadequately tested. I can't fathom out how to update data, nor even where it got it from in the first place. Format of e.g. population doesn't work with #expr:. Apparently it is possible to get {{coord}} to accept coordinate wikidata, but when I tried to edit wikidata/coordinates to remove excess precision, it displays one as ... 60" and the other as ...0". I don't want either, particularly the incorrect.

I'd prefer you reply here. Thanks John of Cromer (talk) mytime= Fri 19:26, wikitime= 11:26, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

@Johnmperry: Both category pages have a header containing a one-line description of their purpose, "This category contains pages that pass...". I haven't met these categories before, so I can't really answer your questions. Both categories were created by Jackmcbarn (talk · contribs) [ping!] who presumably knows more about them. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
@Johnmperry: Category:Pages using deprecated coordinates format is to find infoboxes where people pass in a premade coordinates template. This is bad, because the infobox can't use this kind of coordinates to generate a map. Instead, the individual coordinates should be passed in and the infobox itself should generate the coordinates template. Category:Pages using deprecated map format, similarly, is to find infoboxes where people pass in a premade map template. This is bad because it results in duplication of the coordinate data (once for the map, and once for the coordinates template). Again, the fix is to pass the parameters directly to the infobox template, and let it generate the map. Let me know if that makes sense. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:41, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
I think some examples would help! Are you saying "Don't use {{coord}} within an infobox?" (talk) 10:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
@Johnmperry, Jackmcbarn: Yes, I think that's the message. But this discussion would work better at Template talk:Coord, where the right people would see it. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:26, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Me again, again[edit]

I have been editing anonymously since July / August. However I am coming under increasing attack for so doing (from young whippersnappers mainly). I am really reluctant to use my account. Is there any way I can either change its name, or create a second account (which would carry forward all the previous info, mainly seniority)? Nil carborundum - (J of C) (talk) 02:08, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I second the advice by Sky Harbor. Having a variable IP address does indeed make it harder for other editors to work with you, as it's never clear whether today's edits to article A are being made by the same person who made yesterday's edits to article B. And Sky Harbor (talk · contribs) is not a "young whippersnapper"; he's been editing here since 2005. Currently you are less anonymous editing as an IP than if you'd logged in, since by signing here as "J of C" anyone can work out your registered account name. If you stay logged in then at least you keep each session's IP address hidden.
You can change the name of your account - see Wikipedia:Changing username - and this will transfer all your old contributions to the new name. The link back to the old account name will be obvious from the rename log and from all the signatures left by your contributions to talk pages, as they won't be updated to reflect the new name. Currently your account name isn't the same as the name displayed in your signature; renaming your account to match the "J of C" signature would tidy up this potential confusion.
I don't recommend creating a second account that isn't clearly linked to your old account, unless you start again in an entirely new topic area. That's described at Wikipedia:Clean start. A "clean start" often turns out badly, because someone will work out fairly soon that new account X is actually old account Y.
As an aside, your report at WP:AIV didn't "just vanish", it's just that declined reports are deleted from the page fairly quickly. Your report was declined with this comment. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll investigate the name change route. But I don't live there these days. I wasn't referring to him, but to a new editor who pays no attention to Wikipedia style guides, reverts without explanation, and doesn't seem to know of good faith, much less WP:WIP Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Thu 00:05, wikitime= 16:05, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Market data[edit]

I've got some good news regarding the market data panel, I can write a bot to load the text from this page on the Portal:Business and economics/Market Indices, but for this to work we would need to have a template here on wikipedia with the same syntax.

link to discussionLbertolotti (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Grammar advice sought (or do I mean syntax?)[edit]

This sentence: Batuan's working age or economically active population age 15-64, comprises 58% of its total population, while its dependent population, aged 0–14 and 65 yrs and above, comprises 42%.

I'm inclined to remove the "of", making it "...comprises 58% its total population..." What do you think? Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Fri 10:57, wikitime= 02:57, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Maybe I'll rework it to remove some clumsiness:
Its total population comprises 58% working age or economically active population age 15-64; 42% dependent population, aged 0–14 and 65 yrs and above.
Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Fri 14:12, wikitime= 06:12, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
This second version is better. The <big thing> comprises <the little things> -- John of Reading (talk) 06:19, 24 October 2014 (UTC)