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VisualEditor News #2—2015[edit]

Did you know?

With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:

Screenshot of Citoid's first dialog

Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:

Screenshot of Citoid's initial results

After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.

Recent improvements[edit]

VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.

The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.

Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including AfrikaansAzerbaijaniBretonKyrgyzMacedonianMongolianTatar, and Welsh.

Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.

The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.

You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page.

The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.

Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.

Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead (T90734).

Looking ahead[edit]

The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at

The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon.

Let's work together[edit]

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-Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 17:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

major key/minor key[edit]

Hello Johnny, at 0:42 until 1:27, do you think it's considered to F♯ major? (talk) 01:42, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

It is primarily in a minor key. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
I think it's neither a major key nor a minor key, it's hard to tell. (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps that is the case. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:29, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Do you think that the first video is in G major, but the second video is in F♯ major? (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

The former is definitely G major, while the latter is very likely F♯ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:10, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

At 3:28 until 3:30, it's in a major key? (talk) 13:08, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Probably. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
It's in G major? (talk) 00:27, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Probably. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 03:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

At 0:01 until 0:11, I consider it to C♯ minor, at 1:10 until 1:33, I consider it to F♯ major, at 2:08 until 2:12, I consider to A minor, so, is there a key of a part that you can determine? (talk) 13:39, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

The singing part that begins on 0:12 is also C♯ minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:04, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
I think the singing part that begins on 0:12 is modulates to F♯ major. (talk) 17:54, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. The modulations can be subtle. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
At 1:10 until 1:33, F♯ major is clearer for you? (talk) 01:38, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Not clear to me, but enough to tell that it is in F♯ major. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
It actually sounds a bit like F♯? (talk) 02:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:54, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

This song is in C minor? (talk) 01:07, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

More like C♯ minor to me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
It is not exactly in C♯ minor? (talk) 11:27, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Not exactly, but closer to C♯ minor. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:02, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Target Canada[edit]

Is this store here bankrupt or defunct or does it matter?

PS: This story from Maple Ridge, BC would be interesting if it is true. I thought the auction process could extend until the end of June as Target wants the maximum amount of dollars for its leases but who knows. But since Maple Ridge is in Metro Vancouver, someone will likely fill this Target location.

  • This April 2015 NYT article says the process could be until the end of June until landlords find out if anyone is even replacing a Target store. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:57, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
@Leoboudv: it would be better to ask that in Target Canada's talk page. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • OK. I'll post a message there. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 04:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 16:17, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

2015 Pan Ams WikiProject[edit]


We are just 3 months away shy of the 2015 Pan American Games. There are still a thousand of pages that need to be created for the event. I can’t do this alone so I’m soliciting your help for this task. Please feel free to send me any messages regarding it.

Best regards,

The Green Giant 23 TheGreenGiant23 (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


Hi Johnny, at 3:24 until 3:38, it's in G♯ major? (talk) 18:58, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Sounds more like A major to me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
But it's not exactly in A major? Fête Phung (talk) 02:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Not completely. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
It's between G♯ major and A major? Fête Phung (talk) 11:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Somewhere there, though slightly closer to A major to me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:56, 18 May 2015 (UTC)