User talk:Johnuniq

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I'll reply to messages here, unless requested otherwise.

Index of stuff[edit]

Notification experiments[edit]

A recent addition to WP:Notifications#Technical details has left me confused about what causes a notification. I'm hoping my target won't mind posting "I got a notification" if each of the following experiments causes a notification. We all know #1 works (if certain conditions are met), but I had not heard about #2 or #3.

  1. [[User:Example]]
  2. [[User talk:Example]]
  3. [[Special:Contributions/Example]]

Let's try Special:Contributions/Bishonen. Will that rouse Sleeping Beauty? Johnuniq (talk) 03:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

@Johnuniq: I shouldn't think so. Where it mentions "user talk page, or contributions page", that is in the context of your own signature, not the person that you are notifying. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:23, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
D'oh! Of course—I read that entirely wrongly after concentrating on the "Links to mentioned users' pages can be embedded in templates" (so "user's page" refers to the sender (signature) in the first mention, and the target in the second mention). Thanks for pointing that out. Johnuniq (talk) 10:25, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

West Island (South Australia)[edit]

Hi Johnuniq, You recently edited West Island (South Australia) and reinstated the link to Encounter Bay in the Infobox. I undone this edit because West Island ceased to be within Encounter Bay as of 15 February 2006 according to Australian authorities (including the South Australian government). I have placed an explanation in the West Island TALK Page about the background to this matter. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 07:12, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I commented there. Johnuniq (talk) 08:06, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

consistency[edit]

Your opinion please, on how User talk:Robert McClenon/DN does or doesn't qualify WP:UP#POLEMIC, does or doesn't benefit the project. Thx, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 01:54, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I guess this relates to my "delete" vote at an MfD. The page you mention is another that I would vote "delete" on although it is interesting that it has not been edited since December 2005. It's still a polemic and unhelpful to the community IMHO, but anyone proposing its deletion should first discuss it with the author, and should perhaps wait a long while before doing that. Johnuniq (talk) 02:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
anyone proposing its deletion should first discuss it with the author. Gosh, no one discussed my user subpage w/ me before MfD. and wait a long while before doing that. Why? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 05:57, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't know the background—all I recall is that there was a disagreement somewhere. I am not wanting a reminder because the background is unimportant as it really doesn't matter what provocations were involved. That's the bitter truth about this community—we each have to swallow irritations without letting them fester, and we won't get much practical assistance from others. My above comment is just a suggestion about what might give a good outcome. Johnuniq (talk) 09:23, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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Jimbo's talk page[edit]

Hi Johnuniq,

I noticed that you removed a note from user Tarc, I believe and mentioned not feeding the trolls. I restored the comment. Did you consider this trolling? I won't re add it again if you remove it. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 00:41, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm, I may be revealing my ugly habits by saying that anyone who regularly follows Jimbo's talk knows that a very long term and very banned user repeatedly posts extremely lame gotcha comments there in an attempt to get Jimbo to say something inflamatory which can be amplified in any media outlets that need a quick story. The comment I removed is part of that saga—it's current author is exercising their FREESPEECH by restoring the trolling after multiple editors have removed it. According to a notification I received, it's at WP:ANI. It is widely known that WP:DENY is Wikipedia's only defense against long term abuse. Johnuniq (talk) 00:49, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
I might have acted hastily then, so I apologize. --Malerooster (talk) 00:51, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
I just re added it. I am still sorry for this and all involved. Hopefully Jimbo might provide better insight into how his page is handled. I am sure there is lots of trolling and banned users, ect, but I would err on the side of leaving stuff. It can just be ignored and then automatically archieved, can't it? Good luck. --Malerooster (talk) 01:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
The exquisite feature of this trolling is that Jimbo cannot do anything helpful. If he says he wants it removed, the troll can alert media outlets that Jimmy Wales refuses to consider reasonable and good-faith comments from new users who are only trying to understand how an outrageous action could have occurred, and Wales himself has condoned the removal of such minor criticism! If Jimmy says he does not want it removed, the troll can post forever while expanding threads based on hot air. No media outlet is going to take the time to understand that the comments are extremely lame, and are part of a long-term campaign to attack the no paid advocacy ("brightline") position promoted by Wales and now part of the ToU. Johnuniq (talk) 01:17, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
I am sure Jimbo can, umm, "quietly" ask for removal, or just ignore it, or what else?? I am going to assume good faith all around and certainly try not to add to any drama there or at ANI. Maybe posts or threads from his talk page could be "moved" to a different place, ie village pump, or clearing page, or complaints page, ect for discussion or inspection or whatever you want to call it. Cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 01:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps Jimbo has quietly asked a couple of editors to remove the poking? A central RfC (not on Jimbo's talk!) would resolve the issue, but I don't want to end up at WP:LAME so I might not get involved in debating the obvious. Johnuniq (talk) 01:41, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough. --Malerooster (talk) 01:43, 15 August 2014 (UTC)