User talk:Jonathan A Jones

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You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron[edit]

Barnstar search rescue.png Hello, Jonathan A Jones. Based on the templates on your talk page, I would like you to consider joining the Article Rescue Squadron. Rescue Squadron members are focused on rescuing articles for deletion, that might otherwise be lost forever. I think you will find our project matches your vision of Wikipedia. Note:Keep in mind that Squadron members officially state they are not inclusionists. ~~~~

Excuse me sir[edit]

Hi, yes. sorry.


Barnstar-camera.png The Photographer's Barnstar
For twice going out of your way to take photographs to improve Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford (about a rival college, indeed!) a barnstar is humbly offered with my thanks. BencherliteTalk 16:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Please do not undo verification edits on Oxford University if you have no consensus of facts[edit]

You cannot just delete something if the sources are acedamic sources for the article. I am sending you a warning of of undoing PPR edits. If you continue to undo you will suspended.

The facts about Oxford University, Oxford, England:

1. First English speaking institution - StudyEnglishToday News by M. Boyanova 2007 "Oxford University is the 1st English speaking institution":[1]

2. Oldest: [2]

3. 1st English-speaking institution: [3]<[4]

4. Oxford University is an education institution[5][6] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 2010-08-06T07:31:10

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Popular Alliance[edit]

I have nominated Popular Alliance (UK) for deletion. Thanks doktorb wordsdeeds 14:43, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Faculty / academics[edit]

Hello - your experience might be useful at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 January 21#Category:Faculty of the University of Oxford and other discussions on that page! BencherliteTalk 19:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your input - I don't particularly mind which term is used, but it's good to get it right. On a semi-related note, is there a quick way (preferably online) of finding out whether "Professor X" at Oxford is one of the statutory professors or has a personal title of distinction (such as your good self?) (And am I right in thinking that it's either one or the other?) Going through the "academics" category, I find various people who are referred to as "Professor of Something" at Oxford. If it's an obvious one (a Merton Professor of this or a Regius / Chichele Professor of that), no problem, but not all of the SPs have such names, so they get hard to spot... BencherliteTalk 21:58, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
To add to the fun, there are now four main categories of Professor at Oxford. The old main lecturer grade has now been renamed Associate Professor in the American style, and so all old style ULs, CUFs and ULNTFs can be addessed as Professor (technically speaking the grade has been renamed, but the underlying post remains as a UL, CUF or ULNTF). Next up are the "Titular Professors" such as myself, who are really on the Associate Professor Grade but have the Titular Grade of Full Professor. Titular Professors can apply for merit pay, and as of last term automatically get a new zeroth merit increment. It's very hard to tell Associate Professors and Titular Professors apart: Physics has a total of 76, but I don't know how many we have of each. Then there are the RS4 professors, who would have been called Personal Chairs or Ad Hominem Chairs in the old days, and are now really quite common, and Physics has 14. Finally there are the Statutory Chairs, of which Physics has 9. The key distinction is that Statutory Chairs are positions which are refilled on retirement or resignation (perhaps with brief suspensions), while RS4s dissapear with the postholder.
Telling them apart is difficult, but I could probably tell them apart in most cases (except that Associate Professors and Titular Professors are almost indistinguishable, unless somebody is specifically described as Associate Professor). If you're the X Professor of Y you are probably a Statutory Professor. If you're just Professor of Y you are probably an RS4 or a Titular Professor, but could just be an Associate Professor. The best bet is to find the corresponding College Fellowship: if you're a Professorial Fellow then you are probably a Statutory Chair; if you're a Senior Research Fellow then you are probably an RS4; if you're a Tutorial Fellow then you are an Associate Professor or a Titular Professor. But if you're a Supernumerary Fellow you could be an RS4 or an Associate Professor or a Titular Professor. Complex, I'm afraid. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 22:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Paul Frampton[edit]

Hi. Hope you're well. I came across this article through STiki. It seems the article's subject has returned under a new username to remove the crime convictions from his page [[7]], which I've reverted. Thought one of the main independent contributors to the page should know. Cowlibob (talk) 10:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm afraid this is pretty typical behaviour from Paul Frampton. In the interests of full disclosure, note that I actually have a substantial conflict of interest, and it has sometimes been suggested that I am too protective of Paul's reputation, but in practice the right way to handle this (1) is obvious, and (2) has been very heavily discussed at the BLP noticeboard, so in practice I'm pretty confident that I'm doing the right thing. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 11:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Maybe independent was the wrong word, when looking through the page's history you seem to have been level-headed in your approach which I think matters more than having a conflict of interest. Cowlibob (talk) 13:48, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

oldest university[edit]


I just want to present university history in the world based on an objective view. I truly thing (so as the UNESCO, the world Guiness book, and almost all international institutions) that you cannot understand university in its narrow definition of a European institution. Otherwise it is a vicious circle.. I am the first of everything since I decide of the rules... it doesn't make sense.

Moreover, I am a product of European Universities and the truly believe in their international influence but you cannot say that Karaouine was only a medarsa until the 1960... and intentionally delete the paragraph I have written where I explain that Jewish philosopher studied there and even a Pope!! Karaouine was as much a university as the European religion-focused first universities in Europe. It just didn't know the Renaissance period after that.

I will put again my paragraph below yours without changing the title if it is what disturb you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youmehim (talkcontribs) 14:01, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

These topics have been debated endlessly at the talk page, and I suggest you review that discussion before embarking on your edits. In passing I would also note that your edits were ungrammatical and unsupported by sources. Regards, Jonathan A Jones (talk) 14:10, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Spin chemistry[edit]

Hello! I've noticed that you are a physicist/physical chemist with biochemistry interests. What can you say about the field of spin chemistry, with emphasis on biochemical applications?-- (talk) 16:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

And your relationship to and is what precisely? Jonathan A Jones (talk) 16:57, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Does it matter? If I say I'm the same person, you won't answer the question about spin chemistry? I wanted to post a PS saying that I've seen the Oxford Univ ext link in the spin chemistry article when an edit conflict occured-- (talk) 17:05, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Answer the question please. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for attempting to correct the Neutron magnetic moment article. You may not be aware that just before you began that process, I entered an incident report Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Ongoing_problem_with_anonymous_editor. This anonymous editor is an amazing waste of time. Bdushaw (talk) 21:10, 31 March 2015 (UTC)