User talk:Josh Joaquin

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Hi! I saw your comment about stats on the Signpost, and thought you might be interested in mw:Analytics. Best, Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Engineering Community Manager (talk) 16:07, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Josh Joaquin, you are invited to the Teahouse[edit]

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Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 20:30, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

United States v. Lara[edit]

I reverted your mass change of "Indian" to "Native American" in United States v. Lara for reasons I explained on the talk page. I am part Menominee Indian, and personally, like many others, find the term "Native American" disagreeable as an imposed governmental label. Russell Means, the late Lakota founder of the American Indian Movement once said "We were enslaved as American Indians, we were colonized as American Indians, and we will gain our freedom as American Indians and then we can call ourselves anything we damn please."

In addition, some of your changes were factually incorrect. Federal law defines "Indian country" in 18 USC 1153. The US Constitution has an "Indian Commerce" clause, not a Native American commerce clause. The Supreme Court used "Indian" throughout the opinion. I use Native American as needed (categories, references as appropriate), but the preferred term is still American Indian.

This article just went through a FAC without any comments about the use of the term and is scheduled to appear on the main page on Sunday (again, without any concern about use of the term Indian). Since a majority of Indians prefer the term, I would ask that you please not change it without obtaining consensus - it is not "blatantly racist." Finally, this was my last article (I've retired), and I would appreciate your consideration in not making major changes like that before it goes to the main page.

Regards, GregJackP Boomer! 05:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay, sorry, I thought the term was offensive to both American Indians and Asian Indians. Josh Joaquin (talk) 05:00, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
NP, I knew that you were trying to do the right thing, which is why I went to the trouble to go into a little more depth here. There was no need to apologize for doing what you thought was right. Regards, GregJackP Boomer! 05:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Misapplying WP:NOTHOWTO[edit]

Hello, Josh Joaquin. Regarding this and this, as well as this and this, you may be interested in weighing in on this discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 05:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)