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Nick Kellogg help?[edit]

I saw you created the DJ Cooper page. I've never created an article before and started with Nick Kellogg. I've only done edits here and there for the past few months, trying to clean up things involving the Ohio University Bobcats. Kind of a learn as I go thing. Didnt know if you could take a look at it and possibly improve it. I do see you do a great job updating everywhere. Any help or tips would be appreciated. Thanks a bunch! The article is currently under review for submission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlekelv (talkcontribs) 18:08, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Down to two CPOYs for 2011[edit]

You up for a run at the last two CPOYs for 2011 (all 2012 and 2013 are complete)? Ken Horton of Central Connecticut State and Mike Smith of East Tennessee are the last two and both are still active in Europe so they should be pretty easy. I'll take one if you do. Rikster2 (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Also, I think that guy creating all the NBA stubs will keep everyone in infoboxes for awhile. Glad to have the articles but yowza! Rikster2 (talk) 21:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I will take Ken Horton. Yeah I'm glad someone is deciding to do a halfway decent attempt at NBA stubs, but good god that is going to require a ton of backlog cleanup. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

DragoLink08 again?[edit]

Special:Contributions/DarkStone06. New editor, on a color-changing tear. Looks like it to me but it's been a while. Thoughts? JohnInDC (talk) 03:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I decided, yes. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DragoLink08. JohnInDC (talk) 04:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Ugh. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:26, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
In typical fashion he quit editing as soon as I notified him of the SSI. I think I caught and reverted most of his edits. Lucky it was at 75 and not 775! JohnInDC (talk) 03:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that actually. "I've been spotted!" Fuck him (excuse the brashness). Jrcla2 (talk) 03:29, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

DUI arrests[edit]

If you insist on this being included in the Casey Sanders article, then go (re)insert it on Phil Ford's page. Sauce for the goose .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:30, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not re-inserting anything on Phil Ford's page. (a) I didn't put it there originally. (b) WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. (c) I don't edit based on anyone telling me what to do, let alone anonymous IPs. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:26, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
I didn't say that you inserted it there; but if that argument holds water over there it should here also. Wikipedia: an Encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:04, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:10, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
👍 Like Jweiss11 (talk) 07:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Re: Williams Ephs men's basketball players[edit]

Hey, thanks for dropping me a line. Unfortunately, I'm back into academic work at the moment and don't have any time for serious editing. If they're still in the unfinished queue by the time summer rolls around, I'd be happy to take a look at them and get a change of pace from baseball work. Thanks very much for thinking of me. Kithira (talk) 16:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good. One way or another they'll eventually get done! Jrcla2 (talk) 16:47, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Wisconsin Badgers men's basketball[edit]

Hello, I moved the templetes for the Western Conference to the Big Nine on accident. I am unable to switch it back so now on 1911–12 and 1913–14 there is no longer the conference standings. Can you help? Again, I am sorry about this. Redmen44 (talk) 09:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

NCAA basketball team navboxes[edit]

I'll leave them all as redlinks then. The reason I was linking them was the red link suggested there was no collective info on a particular teams coaching tree, when in fact the template starts the process. There's nothing to suggest an editor can begin a more extensive article (like North Carolina, Kentucky, or UCLA, but I'm guessing it's going to be a long time before that occurs for many of the lesser known teams. Plus I thought it confusing to have the team navbox be redlinked, yet have another navbox with the coaching information below it......Or show no information on a particular college coaching history on the team or year page, but find the coaching template on a coaches page....Pvmoutside (talk) 23:31, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Brad Robinson (basketball)[edit]

Hi Jrcla2, and thanks for reverting my bad edit to Brad Robinson (basketball). I had been attempting to apply WP:DATERANGE (between <date1> and <date2>) but didn't read the article carefully enough. I'm grateful to you for correcting this for me.

With regard to the other changes you reverted, I presume you have no objection to the application of WP:NBSP to "215 pounds". I concede that my change of "sophomore" to "second" is more debatable, but I did this on the MOS principle: "Avoid words and phrases that give the impression of straining for formality, that are unnecessarily regional, or that are not widely accepted." The word "sophomore" is undoubtedly a regional term, not widely understood outside North America, and "second year" is universally understood. I cannot understand why we should deliberately make the article more difficult for a worldwide readership to understand. Does "sophomore" carry extra connotations which are not conveyed by "second"? I've never come across the word "sophomore" before, so am unsure as to such nuances. On the other hand, one could argue that the Brad Robinson (basketball) article is so unlikely to be of interest to anyone outside North America that the use of local dialect such as this may be excusable. What do you think? Sincerely — Hebrides (talk) 12:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I have no objection to adding WP:NBSP to 215 pounds (I didn't see that edit or else I'd have left it in...I'll go in and re-insert it myself). The thing about "sophomore" versus "second year" is that since the article's subject is an American basketball player who is notable for his American collegiate career, the context of sophomore is appropriately used. It doesn't exactly fall under WP:ENGVAR, which is more about "color" versus "colour," but the umbrella concept is the same. If Brad Robinson ended up playing professionally in another country outside of the United States, I'd have less of an objection because he would then be more of a universal person of interest. Like you mentioned, he will only really be of interest/known to people in North America, but probably more specifically the United States, so I think sophomore should be left in. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

What is the purpose?[edit]

Why do you think Talk:Michigan Wolverines men's gymnastics should be a redirect to itself? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:10, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't, it was a mistake. I tagged it with {{WikiProject Gymnastics}}. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Oklahoma City Stars men's basketball for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Oklahoma City Stars men's basketball is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oklahoma City Stars men's basketball until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Corkythehornetfan (Talk) 01:29, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Discussion about "Template:Cop"[edit]

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_15#Template:Cop about the second nomination of Template:Cop in which you may be interested. --Jax 0677 (talk) 06:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

2000/1000 update[edit]

Looking like Augustine Rubit won't hit 2000 points. He'd have to average 25 ppg the rest of the way and the team is so bad they'll have no postseason after their conference tourney. However, Alex Francis of Bryant will probably hit 2000 points this weekend, and he has 922 rebounds as well. He has a very good shot at it. Rikster2 (talk) 14:19, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Francis has 984 rebounds going into the NEC tourney. Two games should do it, if they can get them. Also, the CPOYs are starting to roll in. I'm trying to anticipate a few to knock the queue down. Rikster2 (talk) 21:58, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
This is the busy time of year. All anons like to hop in to "break the news" about half-rumors as to who earned what. Lots to do, as always. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Discussion about "Template:Wprk"[edit]

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_8#Template:wprk about the nomination of Template:wprk in which you may be interested. --Jax 0677 (talk) 09:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Why do you keep notifying me about these things? Jrcla2 (talk) 17:57, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Notable college achievements[edit]

Uh, which awards were you referring to? I was only evening out the awards. (T23tran (talk) 13:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC))

Being NCAA Division I's leading scorer, for one. Being all-conference for another. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Why is it only in a handful of player's infoboxes? How come there's no NCAA Division I assists laders? (T23tran (talk) 13:32, 25 February 2014 (UTC))
....Because only a handful of players did that, why else? And if your rationale for completely inappropriate mass removal of information is if every single statistical leader isn't in every player's infobox, then nobody can have it! you have a lot to learn about this website. Also you're incorrectly formatting honors such as consensus All-Americans, years of NBA All-Star Games, etc. Leave basketball players' infoboxes alone, you clearly do not know the consensus on what is to be included and how it is to be formatted. You're undoing literally hundreds of hours (or more) of man hours' worth of editing by myself and other college basketball/NBA editors who have (a) already gained consensus on what is to be included, and (b) been around the proverbial block on the basketball-related realms of Wikipedia and have much more familiarity with standards than you. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh and not to belabor the point, but Avery Johnson has his NCAA season assists as an infobox highlight, and he's literally the first player I checked. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
It all looks pretty sloppy if you ask me but you're right. Who came up with these standards and where do I go to learn them? Also, how do I voice my opinion on what these standards should be?(T23tran (talk) 13:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC))
WT:NBA. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:50, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

AC Green[edit]

There's a new topic I posted on WT:NBA on AC green I would want your input on. (T23tran (talk) 19:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC))

NBA Rising Star[edit]

Hey, I left a new topic on the NBA talk page that I would love your opinion on. Sorry I don't know how to give you the direct link. (T23tran (talk) 15:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC))

Discussion about "Template:Wpcm"[edit]

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_25#Template:Wpcm about the nomination of Template:Wpcm in which you may be interested.

Saint vs. St.[edit]

I was looking at the division 1 basketball templates, and some of them have the full spelling saint...., others have st......I'm guessing we should be consistent. Should we use Saint or St. and change those already created accordingly????....Pvmoutside (talk) 02:39, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

No they shouldn't all be consistent. Some schools use Saint, some use St. It has nothing to do with consistency and everything to do with athletics WP:COMMONNAME. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Year-by-year teams[edit]

I placed a discussion thread on the College basketball talk page you may be interested in commenting on. It surrounds men's basketball play prior to the 1960's/70's and what the project should title men's teams prior to women's programs beginning....My guess is is will be a pain to change them over and cause some controversy, but I thought we should discuss now rather than later....Pvmoutside (talk) 14:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


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TSN AA[edit]

It's up on their site. Rikster2 (talk) 17:11, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll add them now. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:17, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I can't make major updates today. MWC and Southland have named POY too. Rikster2 (talk) 18:06, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok thanks, I'll do them soon as well. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:09, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Historically, NABC names their AA teams during the day on the Thursday of the Sweet 16. I'll be in meetings but thought I'd flag it for you. Rikster2 (talk) 12:33, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok I'll try to remember that; if not and you have a second, remind me and I'll update it. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Actually, they came out today (a day earlier than last year) - Rikster2 (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

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Thank you Robert, it is appreciated. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

re:Can you PP an article please?[edit]

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UVA's "Tennessee Turnaround"[edit]

Hey, man; saw you kicked that off, and, uhh, I think that's definitely part of their lore now. I see a handful of articles, not just one, that refer to it as the "Tennessee Turnaround", and literally hundreds that mention it in some fashion; their SG Joe Harris going over to Coach Tony Bennett's house, and how they went from the gutter to ACC Regular Season and Tournament champs for the first time since 1976. I'd say that is now as much a part of their lore as the Chaminade Upset. Just because only a handful of news articles actually refer to it by that term doesn't mean it's not notable, and yeah, I'd say it'll mean more to the Cavaliers than putting Valpraiso one more game into the NCAA tournament. Can we slap it back up?

It's really just recentism; no way is it "as much a part of their lore as their Chaminade upset" – not even close. That Chaminade upset is considered one of the greatest upsets in college basketball history, has had thousands of articles written about it, a documentary made about it, and is the entire reason the Maui Invitational Tournament exists. If you want to write something up on the "Tennessee Turnaround" as a few sources have called it, that would be appropriate as a standalone section in 2013–14 Virginia Cavaliers men's basketball team, not as a separate article. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:49, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
I dunno, man- yeah, I understand that about Maui and such, and while you might have a thing with recentism, I think if you polled Wahoos, they might disagree about where it stands in THEIR lore now; which is the operative thing, IMHO. 'specially if they make a deep run in the tourney, but, then, we'll see. If you argument is recentism, then I can buy it for now. If it's the spot in UVA lore, I'd hafta respectfully disagree. Ks64q2 (talk) 01:00, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Boise State Broncos men's basketball navbox[edit]

The Boise State men's basketball media guide doesn't have any seasons listed in it prior to 1968-69. It seems odd that they sponsored football and not men's basketball prior to that, but I can't find any indication that they did. --SportsMaster (talk) 16:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Question about division ii templates[edit]

Hello, Jrcla2 I have noticed that you have helped identify some of my division ii standings templates in the past. I have ran into an editor who is claiming that the standings don't have notability, even though I place the templates into the season article. An example is Template:1986 Missouri Intercollegiate Athletic Association football standings and I have linked it to the page for the 1986 NCAA Division II football season. I have noticed on this editors talk page that (him or herself) has had several articles nominated for deletion and is on a vendetta. I would like to avoid an edit war if at all possible. I was wondering if you would have any advice on the proper course of action. ThanksUCO2009bluejay (talk) 01:33, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

I have also noticed this user is also posting pseudo time notifications and placing a notification that there has been a previous page which to my knowledge has never been created. Thanks-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 01:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
This nomination was made in error because the rationale deletion is bonkers. Mr. Guye has no clue what qualifies as valid nomination rationale, plus he seems incompetent as en editor in general. Do not sweat this. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:52, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

TfD Nom[edit]

Nomination for deletion of Template:1986 Missouri Intercollegiate Athletic Association football standings[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:1986 Missouri Intercollegiate Athletic Association football standings has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Mr. Guye (talk) 02:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Temple Owls men's basketball navbox[edit]

Why did you undo my edit to the Template:Temple Owls men's basketball navbox? You didn't give a reason why. Wouldn't a man that coached at the school for 24 years be considered part of the culture, or are coaches not considered part of it as what is standard on other templates?--SportsMaster (talk) 22:50, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

No individual persons go on college basketball, college football, or college baseball team navboxes. It is the consensus among the three projects. Jrcla2 (talk) 22:58, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Good to know. Thanks. --SportsMaster (talk) 04:55, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:15, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Cherry Hill High School East[edit]

Why are you insisting on having the Cherry Hill High School East seal outside the infobox instead of inside? There's no FFA photo in your version of the article, just the difference of the placement of the seal. —C.Fred (talk) 00:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

FFA was an iPad typo. You're owning the CHE article. So not only do you revert my edit, you don't even include the photograph of the high school back in. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:44, 29 March 2014 (UTC) My iPad is the worst. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Washington Capitols[edit]

I'm not aware of a Wikipedia guideline that suggests removal of parent categories, like you did in the Washington Capitols article. Would you please educate me. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 02:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Also on the Sacramento Kings article. Truthanado (talk) 02:21, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Category:Washington Capitols and Category:Sacramento Kings fall under the parent categories I removed and appear as subcategories in them. Therefore, the articles Washington Capitols and Sacramento Kings should not be in Category:Basketball Association of America teams, because those teams' main categories are already in it. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Barack-etology for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Barack-etology is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barack-etology until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:41, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders article[edit]

Hello. The Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders should have the word "State" in its name because you told me when I created the page Missouri Southern State Lions, that it should have "State" in it because the school's name had state. I don't agree with the move page of the Article when you told me about the whole "State" name. And, can you provide proof that they don't use State in their athletics name? Thanks, Corkythehornetfan(talk) 04:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball#Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders/Middle Tennessee State Blue Raiders. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:39, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Got it! Thanks! Corkythehornetfan(talk) 04:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

HOF inductees[edit]

Hello, Jrcla2. Technically, the inductees have not been inducted yet, they have merely been announced for induction, so shouldn't the ledes on various articles be left alone for now?Hoops gza (talk) 21:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

If you want to go super technical then yes, but there is literally a 0% chance that they won't be in the HOF two months from now. It's not worth it to wait. Jrcla2 (talk) 23:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Formatting help[edit]

Hi - I was redlinking Lamar Patterson on some articles and came across a formatting issue I couldn't resolve on three Pitt season articles - 2008–09 Pittsburgh Panthers men's basketball team thru 2010–11 Pittsburgh Panthers men's basketball team. Was wondering if you could help. All of the players in these articles were linked - obviously not all the players are even close to notable. Do you know how to delink names when name sort formatting is used? Thanks for any help you can give. Rikster2 (talk) 15:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

It's a quirky feature but for some reason adding "|nolink=1" in the sortname function de-links the names. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 20:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Mark Tyndale[edit]

Hello. I noticed that you added the category American expatriate basketball people in Israel to Mark Tyndale. Do you have any source that states that Tyndale played/plays in Israel? ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 20:50, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

His Eurobasket profile. Also, when creating players' articles whose primary professional notability is overseas, I find it's very useful to check to see if an interwiki version of the article exists. The Italian, Spanish, and French Wikipedias are by far the best at basketball players' articles. Tyndale's Italian Wikipedia article, for example, has an infobox, which could be used if you want to include one in the English version's bio. Jrcla2 (talk) 23:14, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Would you mind adding the infobox to tyndales article - for whatever reason I have difficulty adding infoboxes in my browser. Whatever. Anyway, D'Angelo Harrison is at AfD - you might want to check it out. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 00:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I will add his infobox today. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:12, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

2 more pics[edit]

I am a bit surprised by your preferences, so I have two more guys for you to consider.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:18, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Austin Peay[edit]

I do not know what you did, but I have been unable to revert your moves of the Austin Peay Governors and Lady Govs to Austin Peay State Governors and Lady Governors & the associated Talk pages... The women's teams are NOT the Lady Governors--- they are the Lady Govs... Please correct this... GWFrog (talk) 03:12, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not correcting anything unless every single Austin Peay article and category is brought to a full move discussion. There was no consensus to change it. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:10, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

False Accusations[edit]

Excuse me sir, I would like to inform you that that is NOT my IP Address. Whenever I edit a page, I make sure I am logged in because I do not and will not ever hide behind an IP.

I also do not appreciate that you were so positive that it was me, as I have no idea who that address is. I would strongly appreciate it if you would respond as soon as possible so I know that you are aware of your false accusation.

If you still do not believe me (although I do not feel comfortable with giving out my IP Address), I would gladly prove to you that that IP address is certainly not mine. Mugurple (talk) 00:33 , 27 April 2014 (UTC)

It's easy to use multiple IP addresses, that proves nothing. I can open up an SPI case and have you, that IP, and User:Chrishill8414 checked by a clerk. If it turns out you're all the same person, you'll all be blocked for disruptive editing. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, can you please do that? When you get the results, please respond ASAP. It will (finally) prove to you that I am not the one who keeps making those edits. Don't forget to respond, I would greatly appreciate that. Mugurple (talk) 19:29, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Have you opened the case yet? If so, would you mind telling me your findings? Mugurple (talk) 19:53 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Just a little heads up, you never got back to me on what happened with that case you said you would open, is that for any particular reason? Mugurple (talk) 10:22, 24 MAY 2014 (UTC)

minor edits[edit]


Thank you for reviewing my edits and seeing what I do; it is much appreciated. I almost literally mark all my edits as "minor edits" because they are usually small things that don't change the content or information of the article and they don't need to be examined by a reviewer. The vast majority of my edits have been edits that don't need to be reviewed. They include:

  • Spelling and grammatical corrections
  • Simple formatting
  • Formatting that does not change the meaning of the page
  • Obvious factual errors
  • Fixing layout errors
  • Adding or correcting wikilinks, or fixing broken external links and references already present in the article
  • Removing obvious vandalism

I'm sorry that I marked non-minor edits as minor edits as I know that it takes up your time when seeing if my rare edits I do perform are really minor edits, It was just a habit. I will remember next time. Robert4565 (talk) 00:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

UT Arlington[edit]

I don't understand the warning. You mentioned the consensus is that UT Arlington is Texas Arlington. How so? One guy changed it because that's what ESPN had, I reverted back to the original (many of them I created myself) and then he says to start a talk page after he moved it.

The University wishes for its athletic teams to be known as such (see page three of the basketball media guide, and the main page is branded as such ( The Conference it belongs to refers to it as UT Arlington ( Even media outlets like Fox Sports refer to UTA as UT Arlington ( The major daily newspaper refers to them as UT Arlington ( In fact, the only ones who consistently don't are ESPN and TreyDavis3.

I don't get why him moving it first without discussion, then me reverting back to the original gives me a warning and not the guy who vandalized it to begin with.FoUTASportscaster (talk) 21:42, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

More on the name[edit]

Saw another non-ESPN media outlet call UTA UT-Arlington today, FoUTASportscaster (talk) 04:14, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Nothing? FoUTASportscaster (talk) 23:44, 27 April 2014 (UTC)


I've been working some on the Chris Jans article. Bowling Green is his first NCAA D1 head coaching job, his previous HC jobs were in the NJCAA which i can find nothing on. Didn't know if you had any idea where to find info on that. I can find current info but teams could've switched conferences since he was there in the 90's. Also, should this even be in his head coaching career chart?Littlekelv (talk) 21:30, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Junior college information is next to impossible to find. The exception to that statement is if that junior college eventually becomes Division I (like Boise State or Cal State Fullerton), because then the team media guide normally lists yearly results. For Chris Jans, I'd leave it the way you have it if you can't find anything more about his JuCo days. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Take a look[edit]

Check this out. I don't even have the energy. What is it about Portland? Rikster2 (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Jesus Christ. That guy is unbelievable. I don't have the time to set up a TfD right now but that definitely needs to be deleted. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Articles I've created[edit]

Hi Jrcla2,

I notice that you are making "cleanup" changes to the Ivy league basketball articles. The changes remove a small amount of characters, and I am thinking that you were removing the extra bytes from the article that I must have caused by pressing the spacebar after a sentence before pressing enter. In this the case? Robert4565 (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Kind of. It's aesthetically unappealing to have a navbox be bunched together between references and categories, not to mention it makes locating the navbox more difficult when editing the page, so all I've really been doing is tidying up the white space above and below the Ivy League basketball navbox. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:38, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


At T:TDYK#To_nominate_an_article enter "1992 Troy vs. DeVry men's basketball game" where it says "YOUR ARTICLE TITLE". Follow the preloaded instructions.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:53, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Stokeley Fulton[edit]

Hey, thanks for cleaning up some of the stuff that I hadn't done yet. Definitely appreciate it. I'm about to add his year by year coaching results for football, baseball, and tennis. And do a little write up on his history as a coach. Just in case you were doing the same so we don't waste each other's time. 'Edit' He died in 1985, not 1984, despite what says... I've found many, many errors on HSCathletics website that I am documenting on a spreadsheet. Here is an alternate source to show the year he died. Cheers. MorrisS (talk) 03:39, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Have at it, I'm going to bed soon. The article is yours. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:48, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Again, thanks for the help...I'm sleeping soon too. Please check up on this article when you get the chance to make appropriate changes/edits. MorrisS (talk) 03:53, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Austin Peay State Governors and Lady Governors[edit]

Please give your views at Talk:Austin Peay State Governors and Lady Governors#Requested move. TIA Andrewa (talk) 02:20, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Austin Hollins[edit]

May I ask you to reconsider your vote at the Austin Hollins AFD after I provided reliable sources and generally straightened up the article? ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 21:55, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Seems fair. I think the updates and sources added qualify him. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:05, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you Jrcla2 for all your contributions to my pages and others. You have contributed greatly to wikipedia, and you deserve recognition.

Robert4565 (talk) 14:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 1992 Troy vs. DeVry men's basketball game[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:14, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Award 4 U[edit]

awarded to Jrcla2 for being a member of an exclusive Wikipedia club
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Rhode Island Rams[edit]

Hi, you seem to have removed this Template:University_of_Rhode_Island_Rams from nearly every page I added it to. Is there something about the navbox that needs to be fixed to make it a useful addition to those pages? I tried to make it conform to other navboxes on similar pages, and I think it's a useful and logical collection of pages. I undid one edit where you removed it, but then saw that you also pulled it from many other pages, so I came here to ask for some guidance/clarification. Hebbled (talk) 21:16, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

That template is made obsolete for the basketball and football articles by the more specifically-focused {{Rhode Island Rams men's basketball navbox}} and {{Rhode Island Rams football navbox}}. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:14, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Templates like this are indeed appropriate for the main athletics page and the main page for each sport. I've restored this template to those pages. Now may be a good timec to standardize these school-wide athletic navboxes. Jweiss11 (talk) 13:23, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't see the need for sports-specific navboxes at all and had previously considered TfD-ing the entirety of them. All school-related articles should be contained on the school navbox itself. Picking apart sports as a separate commodity is navbox overkill. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Jrcla2, that may the best move, to TfD all the existing ones as a class. If the university navbox links to main the athletics articles and each of the team articles, that's probably enough to obviate the need for these navboxes. Jweiss11 (talk) 13:55, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Redirects for college basketball seasons[edit]

I am reposting this from my user talk page in the hope you can answer my question down below. Thanks.

I appreciate your efforts in improving List of College Championship Game Outcomes, but please stop creating redirects for season articles in {{NCAA Division I men's basketball season navbox}}. The season article redirects are misleading because there is more content to those seasons than just who the national champions are. There are conference standings, rule changes, All-American selections, and other miscellany that should be included in their own stand-alone season articles. WikiProject College Basketball will eventually get around to creating those articles; just because they're red-linked now doesn't mean they will be forever. It's better to have a red-link than a redirect blue link to an article not even exclusively about college basketball. Thanks. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:08, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I apologize profusely. I had no idea that inserting a redirect there (I think it was for 1908 and 1922 only) affected navboxes to which they were linked. How would I determine that in advance of making such a mistake? I don't want to make it again. Jeff in CA 22:40, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Jeff in CA (talk) 14:19, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Notability issues in college baseball[edit]

I thought this discussion might interest you. Mizzou415 (talk)

Anderson Packers and Baltimore Bullets coach navboxes[edit]

I don't understand why you reverted my edits. It didn't have anything to do with interim status. In the Packers navbox, you have Duffey and Schultz listed as co-coaches, when in fact Schultz served, then Duffy (see here). Same with Scolari and Reiser (see here here). pbp 04:35, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

My mistake. I thought you had changed something else. Last night when I saw the edits it was late and I was tired so my eyes must have deceived me. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:41, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Texas Southern[edit]

Sorry, but you need to learn not to revert corrections. There is no Texas Southern Tigers women's basketball team. The Texas Southern women's basketball team is the Texas Southern Lady Tigers basketball team. As a result, you do not have a Texas Southern Tigers men's basketball team. You have the Texas Southern Tigers basketball team and the Texas Southern Lady Tigers basketball team. If you do any type of research on Wikipedia, you would know that you do NOT attach men's to the team name when the women's team name is seperate. Examples of this can be found with the Texas Tech Red Raiders/ Texas Tech Lady Raiders, the TCU Horned Frogs/ TCU Lady Frogs, Louisiana Tech Bulldogs/Louisiana Tech Lady Tecchsters, the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors/ Hawaii Rainbow Wahine, and even the Southern Utah Thunderbirds/ Southern Utah T-Birds. If you did a little bit of research, you would find out that every SWAC women's team has the word Lady attached to it, except for Mississippi Valley State. For Mississippi Valley State it is the Delta Devils and the Devilettes. As a result, you need to change it back to how I had made it. It is the Texas Southern Tigers basketball team, no men's attached!Bigddan11 (talk) 21:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Save the lecture, I'm aware of the conventions, more so than you since I'm one of the original editors to propose the dropping of the gender when it becomes redundant. Jrcla2 (talk) 04:50, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Chandler Parsons unsourced BLP / free agent problems[edit]

Hey, Jrcla2. Can you watch the Chandler Parsons article? We've got two or more newbies who keep adding unsourced changes about Chandler's free agent status. I'm sure you're seeing a lot of this right now -- can you add one more to your watch list? Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:38, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

2014 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship Game, etc.[edit]

Hey. I've been 0ut of the loop for a while. Are we creating separate articles for NCAA championship finals now? It appears that a relatively new editor (Michiganwolverines2014) has been busy beavering away creating a half dozen of these, as well as a navbox template that suggests he intends to create separate articles for all of the NCAA finals. As a matter of policy, has WP:CBB considered this? I always thought the summary of the final was intended to be incorporated into the tournament article for each year. Please advise. I have just found a nest of individual CFB and high school game articles that this editor and several others have been working on, and it may be time for several AfDs and some policy discussions on the WP:CBB and WP:CFB talk pages. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:55, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah they went through an AfD and passed (well, one or two of them did). Nothing formal was issued at CBB but we've all sort of taken the stance that national championship games are notable unto themselves and the AfD proved that. None of us care enough to fight it because they're decent articles and there's a lot more to tackle. I'm starting to care less about what a lot of these new-ish editors are doing. I'm not anywhere near retiring from Wikipedia yet, but I'm also starting to see how this website will slowly unravel itself down the road and it's becoming more of a burden to give a shit (see above thread, where a novice editor is going around making every female SWAC basketball team "Lady (name)". Could I fight that? Yeah. Do I want to? Kind of. Will it change anything in the future when some other asshole comes along and starts spewing off on how those articles should be named? No. Consensus gets buried in archived threads and then it basically becomes obsolete if it's older than a year. Part of the reason why I'm just going to start going off and do my own thing (meaning, still abide by consensus, but not care as much about helping others). Jrcla2 (talk) 20:19, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw the newbie lecturing you above about the CBB coach navboxes, remembered how you had been instrumental in their creation and naming, shook my head and laughed. Don't let the weasels hold you down and nibble you to death! As for the stand-alone NCAA final articles, there's more than one way to skin that polecat: (1) AfD merge nominations (as distinct from AfD deletion nominations), (2) a CBB policy decision to merge, or (3) separate article talk page merge discussions. The third option is the least desirable because it involves separate discussions that rarely attract enough attention. Personally, I would favor a combination of CBB policy consensus followed by AfD merge nominations . . . . You tell me: what were the opinions of a majority of CBB regulars? If it's split, I have no desire to push anything controversial, but if most CBB editors favor a merge, I'm happy to organize the AfD merge discussions -- the principal argument being the separate NCAA finals articles duplicate most the material from the tournament articles. What's your reaction? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
The AfD for the 2015 game is here. I forgot that this is the only national championship game AfD that was nominated and that it got deleted because it's too soon for that article. What I was thinking of was 2014 Final Four AfD which resulted in a merge. Either way, my personal opinion is that I'm ok with the championship game articles existing (if they were all deleted I wouldn't care either). Merging would probably be better than deleting to be honest, but I feel so weakly about any of it that whatever happens happens. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:03, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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A Barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you Jrcla2 for reviewing my edits and for improving Wikipedia on a daily basis.Robert4565 (talk) 02:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:NBA player salaries[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:NBA player salaries has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:32, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

John Hargis (basketball)[edit]

According to Hargis scored for a career in the NBA 766 points, 66 rebounds and 127 assists. --SWAT-76 (talk) 04:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

You're right, I've changed it back. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Fuquan Edwin[edit]

I know this guy has been on your to do list for awhile. He just signed with a Lega Basket Serie A team (ref here), so if you are still interested now might be a good opportunity to create the article. Rikster2 (talk) 12:22, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't have much passion around the guy but he's definitely notable and needs an article. I'm not sure if him signing to Lega Serie A will persuade me but I'll think about it. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Missouri Tigers Head Coaches[edit]

You undid my revision and the reason was the red link promotes someone to make the separate page or something like that. I made the separate page last night and it was deleted because the information is already presented on the page I linked in the head coaches Mizzou panel. So what should be done here? Bwwolz86 (talk) 18:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

It was deleted because it had duplicate info from the main article. I substituted {{main}} and removed that section from Missouri Tigers men's basketball. Nothing needs to be done. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:12, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
The only reason I created the page was because nothing was linked on the list of mizzou coaches in the box on the bottom of the page. Now there is information there that looks pretty identical to what I did. But in your own way.. what is the difference? Bwwolz86 (talk) 21:57, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
It was deleted because you pasted the exact same content found at Missouri Tigers men's basketball#Coaching history without removing the content from the main Missouri Tigers men's basketball article. Since there was duplicate information on two different articles, it was redundant. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
So instead of DELETING the page I created you couldn't have just done what was done now and link the page I took time creating on the main basketball article? That is what confuses me.. Bwwolz86 (talk) 23:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm not the one who deleted it, you'll have to take that up with the other person. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:01, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Luke Ridnour[edit]

Oh, my bad, I just didn't see the team listed a second time in his infobox. My bad. Thanks. :) miamiheat631 talk 15:09 21, July 2014 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for linking it while thinking it wasn't yet linked already. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)