User talk:Kanguole

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Good map[edit]

Very impressed by your recent map on Zhuang Languages Surveys. How did you manage to get such a good overall appearance? I have been thinking about producing some maps of the same area illustrating patterns in data collected in around 30 locations in Guangxi. I see you use QGIS, but what map did you start with?Johnkn63 (talk) 07:07, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. The vector data from rivers and boundaries is from Natural Earth (1:10m). I positioned the survey sites myself from online maps. In several cases I couldn't find the survey village, and so used the centre of the county, so they could be a bit off. I set QGis to use the WP location map colours and used the SimpleSVG plugin to export the map to SVG. Unfortunately the plugin is buggy, so I had to fiddle with the output SVG to fix it. Kanguole 14:44, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank-you for a quick and full reply. I experimented today with the natural earth data and qgis today, with interesting results, though I was not able to get the SimpleSVG plugin to work, it crashed and so did not produce an svg file. Regarding the survey sites I may be able to find out where they are if you let me know which ones you could not find I might be able to get co-ordinates for them. Johnkn63 (talk) 15:07, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The villages I couldn't locate were:

  • Nàxù 那旭, Héngxiàn 横县
23.0334133 109.1747475
  • Xīnyú 新于, Píngguǒ 平果
This should be Xīnxū 新圩
  • Héxuān 合愃, Tiándōng 田东
This should be Héhéng 合恒
  • Zhěméng Township 者孟乡, Guǎngnán 广南 (Shā people 沙族)
  • Ānzì 安治, Róng'ān 融安
  • Rìxīn 日新, Lóngshèng 龙胜
  • Sānqū 三区, Héchí 河池
  • Mémá 么麻, Nándān 南丹
  • Chéngxiāng 城厢, Dōnglán 东兰
  • Liùlǐ 六里, Dū'ān 都安
23.973234 108.115940 this is for Liuli Village, rather than the centre of Liuli.
  • Sìjiǎo 寺脚, Láibīn 来宾
  • Xiàfāng Township 下枋乡, Yōngnán 邕南
  • Fùlù Township 福鹿乡, Chóngzuǒ 崇左
  • Yuándì'èrqū 原第二区, Débǎo 德保
  • Xīnhé Township 新和乡, Jìngxī 靖西
  • Kuāxī Township 夸西乡, Yánshān 砚山 (Nóng people 侬族)
  • Dàzhài, Hēimò Township 黑末乡大寨, Wénmǎ 文马 (Tǔ people 土族)

Kanguole 15:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Apologies only found two locations so far. A further two locations where mistyped in Zhuang_languages#Surveys I have corrected these, maybe the person typing did not have a copy of Zhang 1999 《壮语方言研究》. The original surveys covered over 50 locations, and some of places have changed their name (see http://www.rauz.net.cn/bbs/dispbbs_22_74659_3754_skin0.html for a discussion of which names have changed and some suggestions of where these might be). The name of Sānqū 三区, Héchí 河池 suggests it is close to the city, or even part of it. The 1999 book only include 35, the stated reason is that where two places where similar such as 田阳 and 田东 only one is shown, however printing space, or page size, was IMHO a consideration. Find more of the locations would be useful, as would keeping a note of which have yer to be found. Johnkn63 (talk) 07:10, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I've updated those two locations. Kanguole 09:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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