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გამარჯობა, ქართველი ხარ? Jaqeli 11:47, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

დიახ. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 21:23, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

სადაური ქართველი ხარ? Jaqeli 16:25, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

თურქეთში. თქვენ? elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 07:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Are you from historic Tao-Klarjeti? Or you're Laz? Could you help with Turkish translations sometimes? Jaqeli 10:45, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I am not a Laz and yes, my family hails from Kars which was a part of Tao-Klarjeti. My Georgian is not good actually, I can barely speak and understand. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 10:59, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

And do you by chance know what is your original surname? I meant Turkish. You speak it fluently right? Jaqeli 11:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

My family is called 'Elbeyioğlu' which literally means son of a foreigner Bey (Also -oğlu means -shvili). And Turkish is my mother tongue i can speak it like English. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 08:59, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

You have to have an original Georgian surname if you say you're Georgian from Tao-Klarjeti. Most of the surnames there should have ended mostly on -dze as far as I know. I think if you could search for more deeply into an archives or from your relatives you could get your original surname back. As for Turkish, could you help to translate some articles from English to Turkish for Turkish wikipedia? Jaqeli 12:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Hahahah mate we have been assiamilated a lot, we and the others call us Turkish with Georgian origin (like the majority of Chveneburis). We still have relatives in Georgia but last time we have been contacted each other was 2010. I can translate Turkish for English Wikipedia but Turkish Wikipedia has a lot of amateurs and nationalists. I don't like it in there and i don't want to improve it neither. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 12:20, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I meant that getting the original surnames is possible. I personally know some Georgians like you from Turkey who got back their Georgian surnames and many Lazs did the same. Jaqeli 12:05, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Is that so? I didin't know such a thing like this. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 12:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes there are many like that. Especially those who have relative ties with Georgians in Georgia, they search for their exact origins and then get back their surnames according to that. Georgians in Iran also do that. When was it first when you find out about your Georgian origin? Is it just recently or from childhood? Jaqeli 13:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

About 5-6 years ago, my grandpa doesn't look like Turkish at all. He is 1.75 - 1.80 cm tall, has a good posture with white skin and green eyes. I've asked my mom that was he really a Turkish. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 13:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I didn't understand your last sentence. Does your grandpa speak Georgian? Jaqeli 14:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I meant that his apperance doesnt look like a Turkish but like a Caucausian so i asked my mom that what ethnicity that he has. No his dad could understand Georgian but he appearently forgot or doesnt know.elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 17:15, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

What about Georgian schools in Turkey? Are kids with Georgian origin allowed to study in their mother tongue? Jaqeli 17:23, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Well you need at least 10-15 students to request for opening a minority language class in your primary or high school. Because of that mostly Laz language is being teached in Marmara and Black Sea region. But in universities there are Georgian language and literature faculties, especially in universites at northeastern and eastern-blacksea Turkey.elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 17:30, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Elmas. Nice to know you here on Wiki. Jaqeli 17:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

It is Melih mate. Yeah you too. We can chat whenever you like.elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 17:40, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


Selam elmasmelih. Maddenin tartışma geçmişini bilmediğin için sana sorayım dedim. "Turkic peoples" maddesindeki 2012'de eklenen doğruluğu ve tarafsızlığı şüpheli şablonlarının kaldırılmasında bir sakınca var mı? maddede her şey gördüğüm kadarıyla kaynaklandırılmış.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 18:03, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Aynen öyle kaldırabiliriz bence elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 21:26, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Peki öyleyse, şimdi şablonu kaldırdım.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 21:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Need a third opinion[edit]

Hi there Elmas. I remember you were very polite with me a few days ago, so I think you're an appropriate third party for the discussion here: I'd appreciate a third opinion on the matter. :-) --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 09:27, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

It is Melih actually, Elmas is my family-name, Nadia :). I will take a look. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 09:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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An image that can be found in the homes of every Alevi: The Twelve Imams and their descendant, the 13th century Alevi saint and Sufi master Haji Bektash Veli from Khorasan.

ALI in this picture does not look like the one in ALEVISM template, you should choose one of them.. (talk) 09:31, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Can you prove that Ali exactly looks like this? No one can. He hasn't been photographed right?elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 09:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion: Let's use a unique Ali picture, if you use so many different one, it looks strange.. Discuss to decide which picture is the most suitable one. (talk) 04:16, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Hakob's Picture is good. No need to talk because there are No other good Picture to put. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 17:39, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

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Will do. Thanks for the heads-up. elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 13:53, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


I changed it. You're right, center-right is a more accurate term than centrism. But I don't think we should add Islamism or neo-Ottomanism to the infobox since these ideologies have been officially denied/rejected by the party. Other political party pages avoid having disputed ideological classifications in the infobox. Actually, I don't live in Turkey. I'm from Kuwait. :-D --Nadia (Kutsuit) (talk) 18:19, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

These two could be mentioned in the article but not in infobox i agree with that. Kuwait? Tell me about Kuwait Nadya, i had lots of Arab friends in US but none of them from Kuwait. Hey i know that Kuwait's currency is the most valuable one in the world. Thats all i know actually :D elmasmelih (used to be KazekageTR) 23:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)