User talk:kelapstick

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Let sleeping pugs lie.

My talkpage[edit]

Sorry I didn't really mean to revert you. I just don't care about silly things like that. I once told a vandal that they had spelt "penis" wrong. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 22:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

No worries, You used to have a "don't revert personal attacks" message at the top of your talk page, now that it's in the edit notice, so it gets missed when just viewing a diff and reverting. Its kind of a badge of honour actually. If people were not calling you a sack of shit, how would we ever know you are doing your job properly! --kelapstick(bainuu) 22:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

UTRS Account Request[edit]

I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool. kelapstick(bainuu)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki[edit]

Hi, can I interest you and page stalkers in this project? For starting missing articles from other wikis. All about addressing systematic bias. You could use it to list lots of missing Mongolian articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Mongolian, ones which are priority for starting. If so, put your name down on the project talk page and add a tick by your name. Even if not, at some point we'll do some Mongolian stub of the week (see further down project page what I've started) drives and will need your input on what is missing! I'm aware that other wikis like Mongolian the quality isn't always great for translation, but the idea really is to identify notable missing articles and aim to start a lot of them with improved sourcing/content.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:58, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the invite Dr. Blofeld, at this time I am not sure I want to commit to a WikiProject, but when you get to Mongolian, you know you can always drop by here for some help. I don't actually speak/read Mongolian, but in a pinch I can get some quick info/translation. I may be heading back over there in the latter part of the year, so I would be more useful then. I will also keep that link above on my watchlist, so when it is created I can jump in. Cheers, --kelapstick(bainuu) 12:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
OK. Well if you could create me a list of 10-20 odd missing articles related to Mongolian culture that would be great. You're welcome to join in the stub drive the week I list them!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:12, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I will send a message to my man in UB to see what he thinks we might be missing. We have been working on bringing forth a Mongolian edition of Rolling Stone, but I don't think they have published anything yet.--kelapstick(bainuu) 12:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


Thank you so much for semi-protected my user page.But can you changed protection level of my user page to fully protected (6 months) and move-protected (6 months) to prevent vandalism from the other members on Wikipedia? DoDung2001 (talk) 13:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

I will increase it to six months, but I have seen no requirement for full protection. Are you aware that with full protection that even you will not be able to edit it? --kelapstick(bainuu) 13:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Right,but I don't need to edit my user page.So can you changed protection level of my user page to fully protected (6 months) and move-protected (6 months) to prevent vandalism from the other members on Wikipedia?Please DoDung2001 (talk) 13:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
No, I will not increase it to full protection, if an autoconfirmed editor vandalizes your page, we will block the user. Full protection is overkill. --kelapstick(bainuu) 13:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Okay DoDung2001 (talk) 13:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


Ok -- I've now put links on the talk page showing my sources. What now?


- Terry - Terrysharcque (talk) 17:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Now you discuss it there. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

And who decides? I've shown the proof. One of the ppl that was changing it back even agreed with me. But I can't fix the page. Or is this a thing where even if I've shown proof, if those arguing against me don't care, it stays the same. Not trying to be snarky, I just don't get it. Terrysharcque (talk) 17:51, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Consensus is reached on the talk page, and once it is reached anyone can add it. I am not following the discussion. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. Terrysharcque (talk) 18:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

List of Presidents of Croatia[edit]

Thanks for the protection on this article. Can you just revert the article to the version before Timbouctou started to edit war. I think it would be wrong to leave his version because the page is protected because of him and his unwillingness to engage in a constructive discussion on the talk page. Please, can you do that? Tnx in advance. :)--Tuvixer (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

It would be inappropriate for me to revert to anyone's preferred version unless there were BLP issues associated with it, which there does not appear to be. Regardless of what version I protected, it would always be the wrong one. --kelapstick(bainuu) 17:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Why not? Now it is his version, and you have protected the page just because he was breaking the rules and edit-warring. You understand what I am saying, right? He has changed the current version, and has made changes without consensus, and if you read the talk page you will see that even without consensus he will again start to edit war. He has broken the 3RR and I think he should be banned, is that what the Wikipedia rules say, right? It is really hard to edit Wikipedia when you have a user like timbouctou who is reverting almost everything that I edit, you can see on my contributions, he almost always reverts my edits without explanation, calling me most of the times a troll. Is that the way Wikipedia should work? He has been harassing me for quit some time now and I feel awful, it is horrible. I have reported him once for 3RR, and he really did break it, but my report was ignored and he was not sanctioned. Can you sanction him now? Tnx in advance. --Tuvixer (talk) 18:14, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Also you can see on the ANI discussion what kind of language and arguments he uses. He calls other users trolls, but actually he is a big troll, and he knows that, but somehow when he breaks the 3RR he gets away with it. That is wrong and he should face the consequences. --Tuvixer (talk) 18:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
The way it works is I review RFPP, protect the page where there is an edit war ongoing. I don't care who is right and who is wrong as long as there is no blatant vandalism or BLP violations involved involved, and I protect the page without passing judgement on who is correct. A protected page is not an endorsement on the current version, it is just meant to stop the disruption. I am not going to be sanctioning anyone, there is an active discussion at ANI, it shall be decided there. --kelapstick(bainuu) 18:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok, I understand the first part. But he has broken the 3RR, how can you say that he will not be sanctioned? It is a objective norm and he has made more than 3 reverts inside a 24 hours period. You can see also that he is insulting other users, and does not engage in a constructive discussion. Should I propose on the ANI that he gets sanctioned because of the 3RR? Tnx. --Tuvixer (talk) 18:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
It would not hurt to mention that he has reverted three times in 24 hours, however since blocks are preventative, not punitive, and the page is protected, a block would not prevent anything, it would only feed the drama. --kelapstick(bainuu) 18:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Someone else has mentioned it in the meanwhile but I will do the same thing. It is preventive because as soon as the protection is over he will do the same thing, you understand, now in three days he will ignore the talk page or just make nonconstructive edits, like he always does, and then, you can say , when the truce is over all out war. You can stop us going in cycle by sanctioning him. What do you say? --Tuvixer (talk) 18:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

There is an active discussion at ANI where this can be done, and imposing sanctions is not my thing. --kelapstick(bainuu) 18:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok, tnx again for your replies. You are a good person. I hope this all will be resolved. Tnx again. :) --Tuvixer (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Personal attacks[edit]

Since I cannot add to closed discussion, just wanted to thank you for here. I have noted the points addressed to me. --Hash Tag 444 (talk) 18:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

No worries Hash Tag 444. --kelapstick(bainuu) 18:17, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Fergie Time[edit]

Why has this legitimate article been removed and turned into a redirect on the say so of one user without any discussion of it anywhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:41, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

A discussion seems to be here, and I don't really care.--kelapstick(bainuu) 18:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Great attitude from an admin. Truly a credit to the Wiki community.
I am glad you approve. --kelapstick(bainuu) 18:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Whoosh. If you don't care then stop being an admin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps you misunderstood me, I don't care about football. My suggestion to you is:
  • Create an account.
  • Edit Wikipedia.
  • Become an administrator.
  • Patrol requests for page protection.
  • Prevent me from clearing the backlog at RFPP and making such mistakes.
Thank you. --kelapstick(bainuu) 19:10, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of EMG_Program[edit]

Dear Sir It has come to our notice that you have deleted our page recently. I am surprised as earlier suggested by one respected moderator, that our page shall stay and is approved with the above mentioned notification .

But you have deleted it and I am not sure what are the reasons behind it.

Please be kind to let us know if there were some valid reasons or was done by mistake. with best regards Nandini Goel Founder Educate My Girl Program — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nandinigoel1 (talkcontribs) 11:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

By which "respected moderator"? --kelapstick(bainuu) 11:21, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, blocked and blocked. --kelapstick(bainuu) 11:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)