User talk:Kelly

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The Pantractor image comes from the Minnesota Historical Society's image database. It was first published in an unknown venue during World War I, well prior to 1923. The image is in the public domain. Ray Lowry 00:00, 16 October 2014 (UTC) Ray.Lowry

Hi Ray - we need some way to verify when and where the image was published, and the original author of the photo, per the image use policy. Kelly hi! 06:28, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


Hi Rebecca - it looks as if the permission was received but the OTRS volunteer placed a message on the page that the permission was not sufficient, possibly because an explicit license for the photo was not granted. Look over Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions on how to obtain a specific license for use of a photo. Kelly hi! 06:28, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey Kelly! I am incredibly new to Wikipedia -- does it look like I fixed the problems with licensing for the William Baer picture? I work for him and he emailed me the picture to use. Does this work for a non-free use rationale? Thanks! Egkrieble1 (talk) 19:27, 22 October 2014 (UTC)Emily

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I'm still waiting on orders from Heartland on what material they want in the article. Kelly hi! 07:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC)


Sadly, I've had to decline quite a few. for reasons below

  • Age - back in 2006 or so, there were not the copyright template choices that are currently available - no CC-BY-SA-3.0 templates and so on. Also many have links - can't check as they are dead now. For such images I suggest WP:FFD - some may need deletion, I suspect some are OK, and some can be converted to fair-use.
  • Had {{OTRS pending}} on the page - that takes ages, 7 days is not enough, so cannot tag images with that template on it. I clear out those images on a regular basis once I've checked OTRS for an active conversation. We have several categories to track these pages - see Category:Items pending OTRS confirmation of permission

You have not enabled your CSD log feature in Twinkle - so check Special:Contributions/Ronhjones if you want to find the ones kept - I've usually used Decline - old established image - not suitable for speedy - use WP:FFD as an edit summary. Where the image was old but obviously would not survive an FFD, then I've deleted it. Where I've also noted the image was unused, then its gone as well - since an orphaned image on en-wiki is fairly useless. Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:59, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Dudley Hewitt Cup[edit]

I see no precedence for this anywhere?!? I have looked at images for the Stanley Cup and Vince Lombardy Trophy and see no proof of copyright of the trophy itself on either... What would I even do to establish copyright for a trophy on wikipedia? I doubt the OHA or Hockey Canada even knows if there is a copyright and they are the owners... would this just fall under fair-use rationale? DMighton (talk) 03:07, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Kelly, I would appreciate a response on this. I have looked at images of trophies for the Stanley Cup, Vince Lombardi Trophy, Memorial Cup, World Series, The Ashes, The Championships, Wimbledon... could you provide me a policy? I see no precedent for a trophy in an image to be regarded as derivative work or the need or a copyright status tag. Correct and help me if I am wrong, otherwise please remove the deletion notice. Thank you. DMighton (talk) 01:46, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: Possibly unfree File:Barbara Rubin, London, May 1965.jpg[edit]

On October 14th I forwarded a message from the image owner, Peter Hale, to, releasing the image for use under the "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 Unported" license. The email used the specific wording suggested by Aaron Green. Did you guys not receive the email? Can you please check and get back to me? Thanks! Rosekelleher (talk) 18:23, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

File:Nell Bryden Sam Atkinson Portrait.png listed for deletion[edit]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Nell Bryden Sam Atkinson Portrait.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Kelly hi! 18:11, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kelly - you flagged this some time back and meant to provide the licence. Can we delay deletion and I will get it updated shortly once I have back from the source? Sonnet Music 18:38, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:DanCragg.jpg[edit]

Kelly, you flagged this image file here, and I took action by contacting Dan Cragg (from whom I received the image originally), and asking him to fill out and send in the sample permission letter to He did so, and he says he sent the email as I requested. But it seemed not to have been taken account of, because the image was deleted anyway. So, what am I supposed to do about this? Cyberherbalist (talk) 03:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about the problems...if you make a request at the OTRS noticeboard, a volunteer can look for the permission and undelete the file. Kelly hi! 07:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

File:Barbara Rubin, London, May 1965.jpg again[edit]

I've just forwarded another message from the image owner to Hope this clears everything up. Rosekelleher (talk) 17:10, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

FFDs for OTRSs[edit]

Besides the interesting discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Exceptions_to_F11.3F, I saw you additions to Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2014 October 23 - I'll try and go though these tonight and see if there is anything at OTRS and add results as I find them. If there are any other FFD dates - just add them here and I'll look at them as well. Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:35, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

  1. Done all at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2014 October 23
  2. Started some at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2014 October 23
Will do some more when I can Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:04, 24 October 2014 (UTC)