User talk:Khruner

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Hi. Have you ever heard about an device called "the Herodotus machine"? Some users persistently try to introduce this (fictitious?) "Herodotus machine" into the article of Khufu... Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 17:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Nephiliskos never heard of this machine before but I've just checked Herodotus' Histories where he essentially explains that the Great Pyramid was built as a step pyramid, and then the workers used these "short woods machines" or something, placed on each step, in order to lift up the remaining blocks like a series of elevators. I guess this must be the "Herodotus machine", but I can't say if that was fictious or not...! --Khruner (talk) 17:45, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I mainly refer to the lemma "Herodotus machine", because Herodot never invented any kind of machine. What's more: he is clearly unable to say what kind of "construction" the Ancient Egyptians had used. ;D I just wanna avoid the invention and introducing of neologisms in our precious articles. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
That's fine, anyway more infos about Herodotus' claims are here. Khruner (talk) 20:14, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


Hello Khruner, while writing the article on Shepseskare of the 5th Dynasty, I came accross a scarab seal reading "Shepeskare" [sic], which Verner and others proposed could belong to Gemnefkhonsbak Shepseskare, apparently a kinglet of the 25th Dynasty. Since you know this period very well, I was wondering if you could indicate whether there is a wiki article on this guy or not (I have not found any)? If yes, I would like to add a wikilink to this article from that on Shepseskare. Iry-Hor (talk) 08:32, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Iry-Hor, yes, I wrote Shepeskare-Irienre Gemenefkhonsbak's article some times ago. Curiously, in this days I'm trying desperately to find an image for him. Never heard of this scarab though. --Khruner (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, here is the scarab, and the reference for Verner stating the scarab may belong to Gemenefkhonsbak is: "Miroslav Verner (2000): Who was Shepseskara, and when did he reign?, in: Miroslav Bárta, Jaromír Krejčí (editors): Abusir and Saqqara in the Year 2000, Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic, Oriental Institute, Prague, ISBN 80-85425-39-4, p. 581–602, available online." see p. 582 (shows up as 678 in a pdf reader). I have another ref by Verner for this attribution if you need it. It might worth putting the image of the scarab up in the article on Gemenefkhonsbak. Verner's point is that the scarab style dates it to the Third Intermediate Period or Saite Period and that it reads Shepeskare rather than Shepseskare so that it is either a scarab of the latter in archaic style or correctly refers to Gemenefkhonsbak. Iry-Hor (talk) 15:24, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Drawing by Flinders Petrie of a scarab seal reading "Shepeskare".[1]
Thanks for the scarab and the references, I will enhance the article soon! Khruner (talk) 16:08, 12 January 2015 (UTC)