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- 1 Your GA nomination of History of public relations
- 2 Your GA nomination of History of public relations
- 3 Yelp Inc.
- 4 Cvent
- 5 A barnstar for you!
- 6 Your GA nomination of WhitePages (company)
- 7 Your GA nomination of WhitePages (company)
- 8 Talk page stalkers
- 9 Matthew Bryden secondary sources
- 10 Your GA nomination of NextWorth Solutions
- 11 Your GA nomination of Noodles & Company
- 12 This week's article for improvement
- 13 Your GA nomination of Monster (company)
- 14 Disambiguation link notification for December 6
Your GA nomination of History of public relations
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article History of public relations you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Farrtj -- Farrtj 14:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of History of public relations
The article History of public relations you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:History of public relations for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Farrtj -- Farrtj 14:41, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
If you have the time or the inclination...... helping to consolidate and standardize the citations as descried here would be a big help and would not create any COI issues in my opinion.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:49, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- No problem. I am sick today and traveling tomorrow + my keyboard is broken until Apple gets a part. So it's possible I won't be able to finish until later this week, but I will take a look. CorporateM (Talk) 19:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I do not work for Cvent and am not a marketing professional, and while I hope your comments were intended to be civil and assuming good faith your insinuations are unfounded. I started following Cvent after reading some news articles about their IPO. I noticed their Wikipedia page had been vandalized and was not being updated. I took the opportunity to start to contribute. And have kept up with it in my spare time. Early on I spent a lot of time trying to establish a neutral tone for this article as there were what appeared to be years of contributions that were not in line with Wikipedia standards.
Your recent edits have removed an incredible amount of independent work, both researching content and citing statements . Your recent edits are counter to the purpose of Wikipedia and are disruptive to providing a comprehensive collection of information. Butchering the page as you have seems counter intuitive especially considering the lack of attention to describing your edits or any justification and invoking the excuse that I am moving too fast or too busy further supports my assertions. My edits were in line with other corporate pages on Wikipedia, as I sought to standardize based on well known companies and their respective pages on Wikipedia and spent a considerable amount of time reviewing Wikipedia templates and recommendations for company pages.
If you do not have the time to document your edits properly then you should re-consider making them in the first place. I request that you restore the content you have removed and consider contributing to content versus just removing and re-arranging. At a minimum consider participating in the discussion for a page prior to making far reaching updates removing a considerable amount of content.
- Anderson8267. Most of the material I removed was sourced to press releases or press release reposts, which is why I removed it. To prevent future content from being deleted, it should be sourced to independent, secondary citations, such as bylined articles from established news organizations. In general we avoid listing trivial awards, especially those where the company is only listed as a finalist, included in a long list or those on execs rather than the company. Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites offers some guidance about how we should (in general) avoid links to social media websites under the External links section. Clients should be included if there is context that is informative to readers. I think this is how I found the article, is because I was cleaning up promotional articles I found that list clients, which is sometimes - but not always - promotional. The original article mentioned in several places how many clients it had, which clients and how fast it acquired clients in a given quarter - all cited to press releases.
- Does this help? I also left edit-summaries with most of my edits. Relying on independent sources rather than those from the company will probably result in a much more neutral article. CorporateM (Talk) 06:43, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
|The Writer's Barnstar|
|For basically re-writing WhitePages (company) from scratch. Sportsguy17 :) (click to talk • contributions) 11:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)|
Your GA nomination of WhitePages (company)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article WhitePages (company) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsguy17 -- Sportsguy17 11:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of WhitePages (company)
The article WhitePages (company) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:WhitePages (company) for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsguy17 -- Sportsguy17 02:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Talk page stalkers
Per my usual broadcast openly inviting stalkers wishing to follow my COI contributions, I have declared a COI on the Talk page of ExactTarget and offered a draft for consideration. This is a pretty straightforward, small article about a marketing automation software company and the bulk of my contributions are to transform a currently promotional article into something more in-line with Wikipedia's standards.
If anyone cares to take the time, I noticed the current "Similar companies" section is filled with competitors' articles that are even more promotional than this one is now. Of course there's "that" whole thing of how frustrating it is to do the right thing, when all your competitors are doing it wrong and reaping the benefits. Not something I'll pursue personally or anything, but if anyone cares to, I noticed it, but won't clean up articles about their competition for obvious reasons. CorporateM (Talk) 21:30, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Matthew Bryden secondary sources
Hi CorporateM, you asked recently for some additional credible, independent, secondary sources relating to Bryden. Here are a few:
- Times Observer, Warren, PA: 4 Kenyan attack suspects named as probe proceeds, which gives his views on the Westgate attack and describes him as "the former head of the United Nations Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea and a top expert on al-Shabab".
- Chicago Tribune: Nobody is Watching by Paul Salopek, page 2 of which describes him as "one of the world's leading scholars of the Somali insurgency", and page 3 of which outlines his view (shared by others) that Ethiopian and US action in Somalia was counterproductive, actually strengthening the hand of the Islamists instead of eliminating them as intended.
As well as these two, there are these pieces from other less mainstream outlets:
- piracy-studies.org (an academic outlet focusing on piracy in Puntland, run by a team of researchers and edited by Dr. Christian Bueger of Cardiff University and Jan Stockbruegger of the University of Leiden): Gunmen, Fish and Puntland: the Professionalization of Piracy?, which describes him as "well-experienced specialist in Somalia culture and politics". Importantly, the article also says that Puntland's President Abdirahman Farole (sometimes spelled 'Faroole') "seems proven", along with a couple of other Puntland ministers, to "have been on the paylist of pirates." The current Wiki article for Bryden of course includes a passage on Farole's strong accusations against him. Explanation of Farole's hostile reaction to the March 2010 SEMG report, which was critical of the Puntland regime and pointed to evidence of links to the piracy trade, have hitherto relied solely on that report – a primary source. I have outlined to you previously the rigorous process of review to which SEMG reports are subject in order to satisfy the UN's stringent evidentiary standards, but the fact remains it's a primary source. Perhaps this article will provide an adequate secondary source to help shed some light on Farole's tirade against Bryden.
- The ISN – International Relations and Security Network – at ETH Zürich: Eritrea Recalibrates Somalia Policy, which includes the passage: "The Somalia Monitoring Group reports became the most authoritative documents on Somalia since the US successfully lobbied for Matt Bryden, the renowned regional expert and former director of the International Crisis Group’s Horn of Africa project in Nairobi, to become the group’s new coordinator in 2008. Recent death threats against the five-member monitoring group investigating the links between Somali businessmen and armed opposition groups are an indicator of their in-depth work."
- enoughproject.org: Somalia Paper: ‘Famine is Not Just a Catastrophe, It’s a Crime’, which is essentially a secondary source reporting on a primary one.
As you've said before, Bryden certainly has his share of online critics, but I think these sources warrant some attention.
Regarding an image, I'm working on that, and as I've said, I'm still waiting to hear back from Wikimedia regarding the documentation I sent.
- Done I've made what I consider the appropriate edits. I added that he is considered a renown expert (we've seen plenty of sources on this before too) and provided context about Bryden's accusation that the president was on pirate payrolls. I also noticed the article needed a lot of copyediting.
- There is other information in those sources that I would love to add. Like that the US lobbied for his appointment by the UN. But the sources just don't look strong enough at-a-glance. An advocacy organizations (enough.org) and a security vendor (International Relations and Security Network). CorporateM (Talk) 14:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of NextWorth Solutions
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article NextWorth Solutions you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Edge3 -- Edge3 04:02, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Noodles & Company
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Noodles & Company you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of TonyTheTiger -- TonyTheTiger 17:50, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement
Your GA nomination of Monster (company)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Monster (company) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sportsguy17 -- Sportsguy17 03:10, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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