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August 2008[edit]

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Keep up on good work. Thanks. No such user (talk) 07:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


Re: Presidents of Serbia, Serbian Parliament, etc.[edit]

Pozdrav i tebi, Klacko! Svakako, primetio sam tvoje izmene na stranicama President of Serbia, List of Presidents of Serbia, Prime Minister of Serbia, President of the National Assembly of Serbia.

Uz duzno postovanje, ne mogu da se slozim sa tvojim stavom da su v.d. predsednika Republike, v.d. predsednika Vlade i v.d. predsednika Skupstine visak na listama. Kao sto verovatno znas, na Vikipediji (pre svega engleskoj) postoji bukvalno na stotine lista predsednika, premijera itd. Skoro svaka takva lista sadrzi i vrsioce duznosti, kao integralan deo same liste i ja smatram da je to najbolje resenje. Mnogo bolje nego da postoje rupe u vremenskim intervalima u listi, koji su ponekad dugi i nekoliko meseci. Ne smatram da je ikakav problem da imamo i izabrane funkcionere i vrsioce duznosti kao deo jedne liste, bez fusnota i dodataka na kraju liste.

Sto se tice clanka President of Serbia, mislim da nema potrebe dodavati listu predsednika od 1990 jer vec postoji kompletna lista na drugom clanku, i zato sto je President of Serbia clanak koji navodi podatke o samoj funkciji i ne treba da bude "opterecen" i listom.

Nemam ni trunku sumnje da si imao najbolje namere, ali jednostavno ne mogu da se slozim sa tvojim idejama. Da budem iskren, kada sam sinoc video tvoje izmene na ovim clancima, bio sam veoma neprijatno iznenadjen - clanci su mi izgledali "iskasapljeni", da upotrebim taj izraz.

Pozdravljam te, i zelim ti sve najbolje!

Sundostund

Sundostund (talk) 22:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Serbs[edit]

Greetings, i would kindly ask you to not vandalize the "Serbs" article and rather use talk page before you make another similar edit. Let me remind you that the refferenced figures, sources and footnotes you have deleted were reached by a concensus of multiple editors of the "Serbs" article, we have already suceeded in demanting several tries of vandalism by some IP editors or some Croatian editors who badly wanted to show our sources as "inflaming and unreliable" in an aim to downgrade the figures of Serbs, while on the other hand the "Croats" article was pumping up higher estimations as we speak. The calculations you have done yourself arent reliable, the total number was used by multiple sources which you have removed, as wikipedia is not about mathematics and calculations it is about sources, everything else is "nagađanje". Let me also remind you that using sources from forum comments as you did, arent a reliable source. Also higher estimations (those that arent from official statistic sources) are used everywhere around other ethnic group articles, especially for datas of countries overseas, which are known to be melting pots to all ethnic groups around the world. Please be kind use the talk page if you have new suggestions, but dont forget to read past discussions that were. Best regards, pozdrav. (Правичност (talk) 21:20, 29 November 2013 (UTC)) - Imaš odgovor na mom talk-page-u (Правичност (talk) 18:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC))

Pozdrav, ja sam ipak odlučio, da ne bi bilo netrpeljivosti zbog pojedinaca, da uradim infobox na "Croats" article na istoj bazi kao što hrvatski editori insistiraju, da bude kod "Serbs" article-a. Pa te pozivam, da pogledaš najnovije promene na "Croats". A što se tiče "Serbs", kao po dogovoru taj infobox treba još, da se doradi. Pozdrav (Правичност (talk) 01:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC))

Napisao sam ti u vezi infoboksa na Talku našeg članka. Sad sam video njihov infoboks, to je ok. Meni sve to deluje nekako jasnije kad se barata i oslanja na zvanične rezultate bez paušalnih procena (tu gde ima zvaničnih podataka, gde nema kao alternativa jesu procene), stvari su tačno onakve kakve jesu, zato je nas u zbiru oko 10ak miliona, njih malo preko 6 miliona, to su i stvarne proporcije i razlike između nas i njih, bez ikakvih naduvavanja i preterivanja. Samo promeni u njihovom infoboksu naziv regiona "Americas and rest of the world" u "Americas". Pozdrav

P.S. Dodaću u fusnotama za nas i podatak da u Kanadi po zvaničnim rezultatima njihovog popisa ima 65.305 osoba koje su kao poreklo naveli "jugoslovensko" a za koje se može pretpostaviti da dobrim delom/većinom jesu srpskog porekla.[1] Po istom principu kao i za S.A.D.

Pozdrav, sve sam pročitao i uvideo promene koje si napravio. Dobro si stvari odradio. Članak sam svejedno minimalno promenio po nekim svojim principima, kao što smo se dogovorili. Možeš i da si pogledaš.

* Dodao sam podatke za Albaniju među drugim, nisu zvanični ali zna se da je zaista mnogo Srba albanizovano u prošlom veku i da i dalje žive tamo ljudi srpskog porekla većinom na severu. što se tiče podataka za Bugarsku - te ne trebamo stavljati pod susedne zemlje jer broj Srba tamo iznosi najviše oko 2,000 dok se brojevi bugarizovanih Srba ne može izpostaviti, kao ni u Rumuniji i Mađarskoj.

* No osvrnuo bih se na broj Srba u Grčkoj i još pojedinim delovima Skandinavije... U Grčkoj i Norveškoj npr. živi preko 10,000 Srba ako sam tačan, mada te zivore nisam mogao potražiti na internetu, uvek je bio neki eror, pa bih te zamolio ako nađeš prave izvore za te zemlje i ako one iznose oko iznad 5,000 da ih slobodno dodaš u infoboks pod Evropu.

* Što se tiče Australije - razmišljao sam da bi i za Australiju uradili isto kao i za SAD i Kanadu - dakle negde do 20,000 ljudi u Australiji izjasnilo se Jugoslovenima, pa bi mogli i tu činjenicu staviti pod "Footnotes" po istom principu kao za SAD i Kan. .. Pa kad već uređuješ bih te zamolio da isto to učiniš ako pronađeš dobar izvor...

* Podatke za Novi zeland sam ipak uklonio jer nije izvor dobar. Kod "Croats" članka sam ostavio samo "Americas" no moje promene bile su revertovane, mada su ipak neke promene napumpanih cifri ostale promenjene. Postavio sam predlog, ideje da napravimo konsenzus sa hrvatskim editorima, da se ne napadaju članci sa dveju strana i smanjuje brojke itd. nego već da budu infoboxi i brojevi stavljeni po istom principu- naime da države bez etničkog cenzusa imaju estimacije, a one koje imaju izvor etničkog cenzusa, da nemaju pored estimacija - a što se tiče ukupnih brojki naroda. Dao sam na predlog takođe Hrvatima isti princip kao kod nas. Dakle manja estimacija - okvirna brojka bazirana na brojevima država iz infoboksa, dok bi druga (pošto i oni hoće veću estimaciju) bila bazirana na nekom pouzdanom izvoru ali bliskom realnosti kao za veću estimaciju. Zajednom je u priču uključen Scrosby urednik pa ćemo videti šta i kako; uglavnom to je samo predlog za njih od nas odnosno mene. Scrosby je već dao ukupnu populaciju Hrvata na "Croats" article 6,5 - 7,5 mil. - što mi se čini realno. Dok sam ja našim 10 miliona dodao veću estimaciju koja je već bila - od 12 miliona - dok po nekom izvoru može biti i 11,5 miliona; možeš i da pogledaš te izvore.

Eto pogledaj si promene i ako želiš lično još nešto promeniti (pogotovo što se tiče ALB i one sekcije "Oceania" pa slobodno. Veliki Pozdrav! (Правичност (talk) 03:57, 13 December 2013 (UTC))


Hey Правичност! Since we got accused of discussing in Serbian, just for the sake of good will, I will answer you in English.

We have come a long way since it seems that we are now agreeing on pretty much everything.

I completely agree with you about Australia i.e. figure of people of "Yugoslav" descent should have its place in the footnotes, just as it was done for the U.S. and Canada. I have intended to do so, but I couldn't find a figure, although to be honest I didn't put some serious effort in searching for that figure. Maybe you will get a better luck.

For New Zealand as well. I admitted a while ago that the source was not serious at all, and I am fine with blanking that out. Although, I will stick to my view that there is a sizable Serb community there, all that is needed is finding some reliable source that will give credibility to that claim.

I also agree about your idea for putting Scandinavian countries in infobox. Of all those countries, except already putted Sweden, I would place my money on Denmark to have a significant number of Serbs but I am not confident about Norway, not to mention Finland which doesn't have any Serb community that I am aware of. So my proposal would be to concentrate our efforts on finding a figure of Serbs for Denmark, but if you find something on Norway, go for it.

It's ok for Greece also, but I really doubt any claim that there are any number of Serbs there whatsoever. Maybe during a summer season there are some seasonal workers (more probably in hundreds than in thousands), but those cannot be considered a residents in Greece.

I am fine with total number of Serbs in range of 10-12 million, although I do think that the real number of Serbs is way closer to lower figure (even below that, somewhere between 9.5 and 10 million).

Unfortunately, as you mentioned, there are no more autochtonous Serbs in Bulgaria. There were Serbs in Trn area at the beginning of 20th century, but after Balkan Wars and WWI, majority of them fled to Serbia while the rest has been bulgarized.

The only thing I don't agree with you is about Serbs in Albania. That estimate of 25-30,000 Serbs are for those with Serbian ethnic roots but since they have been a long time ago assimilated during the course of 20th century (especially during Enver Hoxa regime), they cannot be viewed as Serbs anymore and autochtonous community at all (in a way it is the casewith Serbs in Romania or Hungary, for instance). Additionally, there are no more official figures since last census with ethnic statistics in Albania has been conducted 24 years ago, and there were something like 100 Serbs and Montenegrins registered. Remnants of the remnants of the Serbs there are now concentrated in two-three villages around Skadar, and total numbers are more like in hundreds and even dozens rather than thousands. I recommend you to watch RTS emission about life of remaining Serbs and Montenegrins in Albania: http://www.rts.rs/page/tv/sr/story/20/RTS+1/795034/Kvadratura+kruga.html So please consider deleting that part.

Pozdrav, Klačko (talk) 21:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Greetings! Yes unfortunately, we should discuss on English onwards.

Well yes ofc. everything is possible when trying to reach a common goal :).

I definetly think we should search for that source for Australia. Then again, it might take time for New Zealand, though if my memory serves me right i think ive read somewhere that only about 2,000 ppl declared As Serbs there (in idk what census) - and that the maximum numbe rmay be something over 4,200 ppl .. not sure.

There used to be source for Norway - something about 9,500 - but that source wasnt based on ethnic groups but rather on country of birth, so there was no way we could derive a true number of Serbs there. For Finland i ofc agree, ive seen some estimations already but they were only around 5,000. I wouldnt be sure about Denmark though, surely the majority of Denmark Serbs are from Montenegro and BiH by some sources i saw in the past; the figure for Denmark was already on, but i removed it my self, because i doubted in the figures - the source was Joshua project, you may check it out. Eventhough Joshua Project website does actually work on surveys of ethnic groups around the world, it has its own way of making surveys and some numbers are different from the census ones. That source anyways estimated some 66,000 Serbs in Denmark - which i whought was too high- id rather agree with about 30,000 - but thats my personal opinion.

For Greece i must inform you they held a census in 2001, on that census about 10,000 ppl declared as Serbs; since it has become an even more popular destination in the following years for Serbian ppl (until the recent crisis), there may be even up to 15,000 Serbs there now- so we should keep an eye out for some sources about it.

Its good that we agree about total population. Well eventough unimportant but ill still share my personal opinion also; which is that there are some 10 million+ "real" Serbs (out of which ~9.8 million nativley speak Serbian (not neccesarily good enough), (9,5 million are Orthodox or simply only visit the SPC from time to time) and on the other side something over 1 million of those who have Serbian kin, but dont either want to declare as such, dont respect it, arent aware of it, have forgot about it or something else... Many of these are even in Balkans i assume (atleast 150,000 of such ppl can be found only in Macedonia and Slovenia and another 200,000 in Croatia alone, by my personal opinion (experiences and researches made)).

As for Albania, yes i have already viewed that emission and not only that one, but alot more, even about catholic Albanians women who didnt speak Serbian but were well aware that they were albanized Serbs; and their families opted their daughters to marry Serbs from rural areas of Serbia (ofc you already know that also pure Albanian women are involved in this and it has become quite popular). There already were discussions about the Albanian census and it was said they were "unlegitimite" for how many Serbs/Montenegrins live there - for some reasons i dont remember. So the source i have returned on was accepted by all editors and used before... But i have removed it now anyways; as it is impossible to know how many actuall Serbs or ppl who are aware of their Serb kin live there.

Pozdrav! (Правичност (talk) 01:26, 14 December 2013 (UTC))


Ah evo.. imam i nekoliko izvora koji potvrđuju info. o 15,000 Srba u Dubaiju. [2] [3] [4] ... Dakle ja mislim, da sam i povodom RTS izvora bio u pravu. (Правичност (talk) 01:29, 16 December 2013 (UTC))

Hi! Did you see the data [1] Ministry of Foreign Affairs Republic of Serbia. Ministry writes: Outside Serbia lives 4.5 million Serbs, including the Serbs from the region. I think that number of 10.5 million Serbs in the world, accurate and fair, and the source reliable.--Sokac121 (talk) 12:07, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Motorway numbering[edit]

Re [2]: do you have a source for this? I have never heard about A1 designations etc. I don't have Roads in Serbia on my watchlist, but I see just this [3] silent change without any reference. Anyway, NoviSadGrad (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) seems to be a new user keen on promoting a novel designation, which included this [4] copy-paste move. That should be reverted, and not encouraged. No such user (talk) 13:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

A month ago, in Official Gazette of the Republic of Serbia, was acknowledged this modification on numbering of Serbian motorways. In this link you can see the scanned pages concerning those changes: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=109441621&postcount=4478 Regards and Happy New Year of 2014!Klačko (talk) 15:24, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Somebody kind of sourced it in the meantime [5], although Putevi Srbije still have the old version [6]. Happy new year! No such user (talk) 07:58, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

calculations[edit]

Ne razumem te bre... Ti znaš, da nam fale podatki za Dansku (zna se da je tu značajna srpska diaspora), Grčku (2001 bilo 10,000 srba), Tursku (oko 4,500 državljana .. a poreklom podaci idu mnogo više), Island (najveći broj imigranata u ovoj zemlji su iz ex yu), Finsku, Španiju, Češku (državljana srbije oko 1,500), Albaniju, Poljsku, Ukrajinu, itd. iz Evrope.. samo iz ovih i još ostalih evropskih zemalja mogli bismo skupiti između 40 i 50,000 srba) ... gde je tek čitava Južna Amerika, zna se da se naša diaspora nalazila oduvek u Argentini i Brazilu, u malom broju ali ipak ima tamo naših crkava.. ako je Hrvata i Slovenaca tamo, gde onda neće biti naših... Pa onda zna se da nešto naših ljudi živi po Tunisu, Libiji, uglavnom u Africi i + neki sitniš bi s emogoa skupiti iz Azije i preostatak Oceanije... Za većinu ovih država nemamo izvore, nikakve podatke, drugo.. ne stavljamo jedne u infoboks jer broje ispod 5,000 (npr. Rusija sa oko 3,500 Srba) ... mada iz dosta ovih zemalja teško je zaključiti čak i kod onih koje su vodile cenzus da li su ga obavile popisivanjem nacija na bazi državljanstva kog snose ili baš na bazi etničke opredeljenosti ako postoji ta mogućnost (npr. podatak koji nams toji za italiju 53.000 ne pokazuje da živi toliko srba u italiji nego već ljudi sa srpskim pasošem.... pa sad.. koliko ima tamo njihovih potomaka, bosanskih, crnogorskih, krajiških srba iz hrvatske.. onih srba koji imaju smao italijanski pasoš???) ... no kako god okreneš hiljadu po hiljadu, do 5 hiljada + neke sa 10,000 i tako se 40 puta recimo sabrojavaju ti brojevi i uskoro dolazimo do većih brojki. Dosta cenzusa ne može ni biti tačnih.. npr. šta vredi podatak za sloveniju (39,000) i Makedoniju (36,000) ... kad se zna da u obema državama živi preko 60,000 Srba - samo u Sloveniji izbrisali su između 15 i 20,000 Srba iz registra državljana Slovenije posle nezavisnosti 91` ako još nisi čuo za slučaj "izbrisanih" .. smešno je i koliko ljudi se zbog pritiska izjasnilo na cenzusima da su Slovenci/Makedonci odnosno nisu se hteli izjasniti (ta opcija uvek postoji i dosta je stranaca ljudi iskoristi) a izjasne se recimo d aim je maternji srpski jezik.... pa šta će biti drugo nego Srbi ako im je maternji Srpski.. ili npr. navedu Srpskohrvatski.. a svaki živ pametan čovek zna, da skoro nijedan Hrvat nikad ne bi svoj jezik opredelio kao Srpskohrvatski, niti Musliman - retko... zna se da to rade Srbi najveći jugonostalgičari i pod pritiskom posle 90ih.... Zato kažem da su nezvanične procene takođe važne.. jer u svakoj zemlji na svetu - mali ali značajan broj Srba neće se izjasniti za Srbina nego već za nešto drugo ili se uopšte neće izjasniti pa se onda svodi pod kategoriju "ostali/drugo", a ne može se znati koliki je broj onih koji nose srpsko poreklo u sebi pa nebitno da li pola, 1/4 ili drugo.. + toga ne može se znati koliko Srba živi neprijavljeno u stranim zemljama odnosno "ilegalno" , takvi ne mogu da se popišu..... Pa tako mi se čini ta sama ideja skupljanja brojki koliko Srba ukupno živi na Balkanu, Evropi, Americi odnosno to grupisanje suludo... Ako su Mađari tako uradili ko ih šiša neka su, ali oni nemaju i skoro niko nema taj problem identiteta kao mi, jer na žalost komunizam nam ga oduzeo.. ali to nema sad veze... svi npr. znamo da je ljudi poreklom Srba u Americi ogromno, ogromno... znaš i sam kolike su procene za Čikago samo..... pa onda - ne znam zašto si uklonio izvore joshua project... taj joshua project bavi se narodima, kulturama u svetu, populacijama... već sam razmatrao prethodno taj izvor sa nekim editorima i odgovor je bio, da ako nema bolji izvor... taj izvor je onda OK. A što se tiče censuza u USA onog izvor aiz 2012... kao što si video svi ga počeli koristiti, em isto ti piše na tom izvoru kao i na onom za 2010 - dakle estimations... cenzus jeste bio 2010 godine, ali ako jedna Srbija prikuplja podatke 1 godinu... zamisli koliko tek onda to radi jedna Amerika sa 50 puta višom populacijom. Oba izvora kažu estimations... tako da je suludo tvrditi da je estimations iz 2010 tačan a 2012 netačan, kad isto piše, sasvim isto. (Правичност (talk) 21:21, 27 January 2014 (UTC))


Really don't see why we need to discuss things that were already settled down just a mont or two ago.

Firstly, it's been agreed to stick to the official figures, no need for any estimates. Same goes for that 2012 US figure since it is a estimation based on the natural population change (growth) in two years-period, with brod margins (+ / -) - it is not a census figure, census figure is that from 2010 census with no margins, just an exact figure.

Secondly, countries with any significant Serb communities are listed in the infobox, even the dubious ones (such as UAE), there are no countries with significant Serb population left unlisted. Maybe Denmark comes to my mind as an exemption. In other countries we can talk in hundreds not thousands. Therefore it can't push the total figure significantly up, couple of thousands at most...

Thirdly, Joshua project is not reliable source, it's not demographic source it Christian monitoring NGO with mostly unbacked figures. 20,000 Serbs in Brazil, I mean c'mon?!?! Don't mention Croats please since we don't have same emigration history and pattern like Croats, they migrated to South America at the end of XIX and beginning of XX century, mostly form the Dalmatia and the islands and in small numbers after WWII as samll Usta[a fractions went there. We don't have any significant migration there whatsoever. It's a known fact.

Last but not the least, it seems to me that you see this as a game of making numbers bigger as to compete with Croats. We are a significant nation, with decent numbers, there's no need to make it bigger than they really are.

Regards, Klačko (talk) 21:36, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes we migrated to South America and that is a known fact.. you dont seem to know Serbian orthodox churches exist there.. why do you think they were built? The Serbs that migrated there have lifted them up, in Sao paulo in Rio de Janeiro, In Argentina .. there is one in venezuela.. for others i dont know, but there probably exist more, did you know president or prime minister (not sure) of Brazil is of MAcedonian descent... what makes you think Macedonians went there? ... It seems you dont know countries like Brazil and Argentina are also melting pots, there ar epeople from all over the world there. It is Serbian Ministry of Diasporas fault they were forgotten and mostly assimilated... However there are even known people in both of these states of Serbian descent:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Argentine_people_of_Serbian_descent
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackeline_Petkovic
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%ADlvia_Poppovic
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Maria_Poppovic
You also need to read this:
http://serbiosunidos.com/sr/srbi-u-juznoj-americi/
Then for Serbs in other countries.. it is verry stubborn of you to say, to claim.. that in other states there is no more than few hundereds of Serbs. Serbs have one of the largest diaspora`s in the world, you are probably not living in diaspora and that is why you underestimate us, okay lets say "the so called official sources" are right (almost, not quite)... many Serbs dont declare as Serbs or cant declare or dont want to declare at all... so what are we actually talking about when we are counting Serbs.. are we counting those who "feel like Serbs" or are we counting simply those that are CLEARLY born to Serbian parents... for example Arnold Schwarzenneger may maybe declare and feel as American.. but he will ALWAYS remain as Austrian, because data, sources, proof exists, he was born in Austria to Austrian parents... that is logical, same is everywhere else. ... Talking about countries for which we dont have sources... how in world can you claim or know those countries hold only a few hundered Serbs.. present me a source that is true and then make groupations on infobox and say that only 100,000 Serbs and ppl of Serb origin live in all other remaining countries around the world including Australia, South Africa and UAE (which figures from infobox already cover 90-95% of this number)..?? that is insane, you ignored what i told you in my past posts about your estimates and groupations making calculations on your own. . . like you ignored what i told you for 2012 data for USA... READ AGAIN .. it says OFFICIAL ESTIMATES ... 2010 ... just like it says OFFICIAL ESTIMATES on 2012.. where in that source can you find the report you are claiming that one of these pages / figures have an exxact 2010 census data? Unless its your own self-opinion, which doesnt count for wikipedia.
And please... what games? Croats? what?,,, im furious of you decreasing number of Serbs and making your own calculations to a minimum possible standard of how many Serbs live abroad, this has nothing to do with Croats. Regards. (Правичност (talk) 00:02, 29 January 2014 (UTC))

Fair use images[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline for an explanation of why File:Serpol7nd.jpg cannot be used on the Serbia article.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 14:41, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2006/dp-pd/tbt/Rp-eng.cfm?LANG=E&APATH=3&DETAIL=0&DIM=0&FL=A&FREE=0&GC=0&GID=0&GK=0&GRP=1&PID=92333&PRID=0&PTYPE=88971,97154&S=0&SHOWALL=0&SUB=0&Temporal=2006&THEME=80&VID=0&VNAMEE=&VNAMEF=
  2. ^ http://www.b92.net/putovanja/destinacije/bliski_istok.php?yyyy=2013&mm=01&dd=27&nav_category=829&nav_id=681145
  3. ^ http://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/171949-srbi-u-dubaiju-pokrenuli-inicijativu-za-otvaranje-konzulata
  4. ^ http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/turizam.90.html:416385-Dubai---grad-raskosi-zlata-i-dijamanata