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Hello, LP-mn! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Button sig.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Wikidudeman (talk) 17:28, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion of Hot Box (Appliance)[edit]

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I've removed the proposed deletion template from the article. If you wish to continue improving the article, please find some reliable sources to verify the contents of the article. Thank you. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


Speedy deletion of "Finletter-Pace"[edit]

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Thank you. WadeSimMiser (talk) 17:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

F-P MOU[edit]

replied on my talk page. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 11:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox[edit]

Hi, LP-mn.

To delete your unwanted or no longer used sandbox articles, replace all the text in the article with the template {{db-u1}}. The template marks the page for speedy deletion by an admin with the reason being it is your request because it is one of your user pages.

I was also writing because I saw your article, Pace-Finletter MOU 1952, and feel that you may have prematurely created it in the mainspace, as evidenced by the remaining copyediting editorial notes as well as the problems with nominations for deletion of the article. It may have been better to keep it as a sandbox until it was more mature as a draft article before releasing it "into the wild."

One specific problem I see is that you appear to have drawn conclusions from the 1952 MOU with the Army's decisions about the A-10. The separation in time between date of the MOU and the time frame that the Army may have actually been able to remotely consider developing and flying an A-10B is over 30 years. The link between the two does not seem to be a verifiable conclusion or opinion published in a reliable source, but appears to be your own conclusion. This may simply be a citation of sources issue.

As I had mentioned on the Army Aviation Branch talk page, other agreements with their related MOUs, specifically the Johnson-McConnell agreement of 1966, modified the Pace-Finletter agreement to be primarily about aircraft type and missions.[1] CAS remained the Air Force's mission (and responsibility) as specified in the Key West Agreement. So, regardless of any remaining thought on weight limits, it was the preserved idea that close air support was the Air Force's mission and responsibility that has prevented the Army developing any fixed-wing CAS platform, not just specifically the A-10B.

Other problems with the article are non-standard configuration of the article, the use of vague words ("Some people", "Other people"), and the articles inclusion of editorial notes that are best discussed on the article's talk page or made into text comments that are only available for editors to read while editing using: <!-- text here -->. --Born2flie (talk) 13:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your input. You are correct about the Sandbox issue. I can't turn back time, or I would have done so instead of "the wild" aspect of my actions. I'm still trying to find references to the some v other people. I know I've read about it. Perhaps I phrased the A-10B poorly. I'll re-think that. Johnson-McConnel is news to me. I'll try to refer to it. Thank you again. LP-mn (talk) 17:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I think this project is mariginally useful. That is meant as no offense: I just think that you may want to put your time towards improving some other Honorverse articles, some in dire need of help, instead of tweaking the alraedy pretty good list of characters.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 11:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Piotrus-- (RESPONDING TO YOUR COMMENT -HERE-)-- I am willing to do the work of splitting up the sections (User:LP-mn/Sandbox). My (other) question to you was meant to be, will my work actually be USED? I don't want to do it only to find out that others object and it gets tossed out. I have my own reasons why I'd like to make html links that get one closer to the relevant entry in the wiki list. LP-mn (talk) 16:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I am pretty sure your work will be accepted.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

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If your page is deleted, you still have many options available. Good luck! travb (talk) 03:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Steve McQueen[edit]

Replied at Talk:Steve McQueen - 4.240.117.96 (talk) 22:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rebabbitting[edit]

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Honorverse template[edit]

It is, just in another form. I originally put it there the same way it was before, but then a few somebodies insisted it should look more templatelike. All that is missing are the references and the abbreviations for the books. Both were ommitted to keep the template from clutting up with less important information. Debresser (talk) 23:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll put that back then. About the abbreviations. I personally liked the way it looked before... Debresser (talk) 23:59, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Have a look. Is this better? Debresser (talk) 00:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll need some help here and here. Debresser (talk) 20:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Please read WP:AGF, WP:CIVIL, and refrain from personal attacks. Thanks. --Crusio (talk) 12:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. You do have a way of being direct, when you put your mind to it. :) Debresser (talk) 17:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

  • He has, fortunately I have a thick skin. But LP-mn should realize that outbursts like this can lead to a block. Some moderation would be good. --Crusio (talk) 17:12, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Current Total Limiting[edit]

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Wrong information[edit]

Dependent on the degree of wrongness and how much of the article is influenced (just a statement, a section, the whole article) you could use the following templates:

  • {{dubious}} like this {{dubious|date=February 2009}} for statements
  • {{disputed}} like this {{disputed|section/article|date=February 2009}}

Debresser (talk) 18:12, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, I think you've misunderstood. The article _IS_ now referenced. The banners now SHOULD be removed. There's no need for the 'disputed' or other banners. As the primary author, can _I_ be the one to take them down, even though I did not put them up in the first place? (While leaving the 'cleanup' one in place of course.) LP-mn (talk) 05:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I added the "see" template, because you got mixed up. This comment was my answer to an earlier question of yours about the article Carter system. See the section below for my answer for the quesion about the banners on Circuit Total Limitation

Banners[edit]

Obviously you have to be pretty sure of yourself before removing a template. But if you are sure then go ahead and remove the template. It would be advisable to add some explanation in the edit summary (e.g. removed "unreferenced" template since sources are now included).

However in case of this article I would argue that not all templates need to be removed.

  1. Expert attention is probably not needed any more.
  2. The article is now referenced, but the references are mostly from 1 source only, and not all paragraphs are referenced. It might be appropriate to change from "Unreferenced" to {{Refimprove}}. Actually, I see, somebody has just done that.
  3. The "howto" template could probably be removed. It is true that the article contains some information that could be used as implicit advice, but that is clearly by way of explaining the subject, not as a goal in itself.
  4. I don't see any violation of wp:NPOV here, although those in favor of "Non-CTL Circuit Breakers" might be unhappy about some things here. You could remove it, and if somebody would put it back, you can always invite him to the talk page to explain what constitutes the problem in his eyes. Debresser (talk) 11:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much, did all you recommended.LP-mn (talk) 20:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm flattered. Hope all works out well. Debresser (talk) 22:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Honorverse table[edit]

Thanks for updating it, but see also Talk:Honorverse#Rumors_of_5th_anthology.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Victor Mitchell[edit]

A DAB page would be okay if we can prove that the author and politician are two different people.--gordonrox24 (talk) 00:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I know nothing about the man so I am no help there. Looking at his information, I too doubt he is the author. I wouldn't create the DAB page until we are sure that there are two different people.--gordonrox24 (talk) 00:18, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I am hesitating because there is no current article, or any source anywhere telling us that this author is a different person. We have no evidence to say they are the same person, or that they are totally different people. If we make a DAB page, then we have to also make a page titles "Victor Mitchell(Author)". What is the sense of all that work when we can just look up the book, and see the background on the author?--gordonrox24 (talk) 00:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Victor Mitchell[edit]

I did some polishing on Victor Mitchell (disambiguation) and Victor Mitchell (author). Apart from a few stylistic improvements, to give them the same look as other similar pages, this meant doing some cutting. I've noticed that often the less you say, the clearer you explain. In Wikipedia articles I see this on a daily basis, and I try to do so myself. Debresser (talk) 19:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, I think that the article about the politician shouldn't be renamed, since it is clearly the primary article for this name. See Wikipedia:Disamb#Is_there_a_primary_topic.3F. Debresser (talk) 19:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Fine. In that case though, we should add a link at the top once we do have the info. LP-mn (talk) 00:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

New developments on Honorverse articles[edit]

Somebody has proposed Imperial Andermani Navy for deletion. On the discussion page an option for a merge has been mentioned. The latter might be advisable.

That same editor has tagged List of organizations in the Honorverse with what could lead to another deletion proposal, and that is already too much IMHO.

I feel your input is necessary. Debresser (talk) 09:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

That which I feared has now happened. User:EEMIV has successfully pushed the merge of Imperial Andermani Navy‎ and now has

  1. tagged Technology in the Honorverse and Weapons technology in the Honorverse with PROD’s;
  2. blanked (that is, turned into redirects) Office of Frontier Security and State Security;
  3. tagged for deletion (as AfD’s) Treecat, List of treecats and Honorverse concepts and terminology
  4. Is about to do the same to Elysian Space Navy, Royal Manticoran Navy and probably others. Debresser (talk) 13:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Victor Mitchell (author)[edit]

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Pair[edit]

We work in pairs. You have a lot of editing power, creating new articles and adding additional information. I bring the finesse of Wikiepdia style and formatting. Let's go on this way. Debresser (talk) 07:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Fine by me. What's your opinion of the Worlds of Weber shortcut? I'm not comfortable lumping it in with the rest of the HHAx numbering system. LP-mn (talk) 01:11, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
It definitely is not HH. So it should not carry an HH code, nor have a place in the {{Honorverse}} template. Let's just call it "Worlds of Weber". Debresser (talk) 14:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
That is possible. Write {{Adminhelp}} on your talkpage, and say that you want him to paste you the text of it on your talkpage for whatever purpose. Debresser (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Huh? You lost me. What train of thought are we on here?LP-mn (talk) 21:00, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
That was a reply to your question on my talkpage "Hmmmmm... I wonder if it's possible to resurect (sp?) that old author article of mine that was deleted, and transfer it, and all the other content, over to the Honorverse Wikia... " The answer is that you can ask an admin to paste the text of any deleted page on your talkpage, and then you can do with it what you want. Debresser (talk) 20:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I saw on Honor Among Enemies that you added a second ISBN. Did you notice that the infobox shows only 1 (the second) of them? I added the second one with a <br />. That way it shows both, but they are not linked. The advice on Template:Infobox Book/doc is to use only the ISBN of the first edition. FYI. Debresser (talk) 20:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

As memory serves, I believe that both of the ISBNs are for the same edition, one is the older 9 or 10 digit standard, and the other is the newer 13 digit equivalent. Both pieces of information came from the Baen promo page. If I'm wrong, please do correct me. Line break is a good idea. By my interpretation of your quote (I've not read the standard/template), both versions would remain relevant, as they are for the same edition, just different ways of saying the same info.

LP-mn (talk) 02:14, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, something is wierd here. I don't remember adding a second ISBN of the same number of digits, especially not for this book. See this site: http://www.baen.com/chapters/W200209/0671877232.htm?blurb for the correct ISBN to Honor Among Enemies.
The site where I _THINK_ that I _DID_ place two ISBNs is the one for Torch of Freedom. (See this URL: http://www.webscription.net/chapters/1439133050/1439133050.htm?blurb)

LP-mn (talk) 02:44, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Plot Torch of Freedom[edit]

I read an online copy of Torch of Freedom and wrote a short plot synopsis. Debresser (talk) 10:30, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Got the whole book in .pdf format. Send me an email, so that I may have your address, and I'll send it to you. Debresser (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

neighborhood[edit]

You can use Template:Infobox neighborhood, like they did in Northeast, Minneapolis. It redirects to Template:Infobox settlement, but that is fine.

Userboxes are all those boxes on a userpage. See mine for example. 04:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Debresser (talk)

Supreme Court dates[edit]

It's been a while, but I think I looked here and here and kind of figured it out from there. There's actually an easier way now, using Template:age in days, but I never bothered to convert that page. Coemgenus 14:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of The Big Blue Book of Bicycle Repair[edit]

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Non Free Images in you User Space[edit]

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Uh, Noooo. As I understand it, they have the option of EITHER adding in the fire suppressant chemical OR straight water.

LP-mn (talk) 21:42, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

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myTouch article[edit]

Thanks for cleaning the article up, but I don't think a wikitable is the best way of presenting the content. Maybe the devices can be split into different sections, and the content in each box can be written in prose form. Also, there is a template box for the LG phones, but I couldn't find one for the HTC phones. Can you help create the template for the HTC A series? I've started it here. - M0rphzone (talk) 05:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, no time.

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Hi! I noticed that you created an entry for a book in the Honorverse series. I redirected it to the main series page because it's simply WP:TOOSOON for this to have an article at this point in time and none of the sources on the article showed notability for the book. The thing about books, especially unreleased ones, is that they do not inherit notability by being written by a notable author or being part of an ongoing series. Each entry has to show that it's notable via in-depth coverage in independent and reliable sources, which do not exist at this point in time. Will it eventually? Probably, but it's not a guarantee. I've seen books by some of the big mainstream names that never really got enough coverage to warrant an entry, after all. I do want to state that forum posts are not usable as a reliable source, especially if they are in a closed forum that you have to sign up for in order to view. Some of the sources also linked to merchant sites, which are a big no-no for sourcing of any nature, whether it is trivial or major. I also noticed that the entry was more written from a fan's point of view and sort of seemed like a little bit of original research, which should also be avoided. The article also relied heavily on primary sources. The general rule of thumb with stuff like that is that if you don't see it written in something independent of the author, it probably doesn't need to be mentioned in the article and that you should never expand on what the author has written. That runs into original research if you theory that a book is "likely to be called" something. It's just better to avoid adding anything of that nature that can't be easily accessed or shown via sources because it's so easily questioned.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:17, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

  • Technically ARC availability is not counted as the book being released, regardless of how available the ARC is. A book can even be leaked onto the internet ala Midnight Sun, but that does not count as an official release. That is a leaked copy or an advance copy and not the official final product. Until something is officially released, any preview copies of the book are considered to be unofficial copies of the book. In 99% of cases the review copy is usually the finished novel, but it's been known for books to have some things either left out or changed from the review copies. That's why the availability of advance copies do not really count as the book actually being "available" or "out" in the way that an official release would on its release date. As far as snippets go, the big problem was that you were linking to every snippet for the book. At some point it ceased being a link to a preview of a book and became borderline EL spam. You don't need links to every snippet of the book released on every site. That just bogs down the EL section, making it a bit unwieldy. Those sort of things are pretty unnecessary in the grand scheme of things and would become even more unnecessary when the final product is released. Overly long lists of external links should be avoided and as far as other articles allowing it, that doesn't really mean anything because there are a lot of articles that have issues with having too many external links. A long list of snippets or whatnot in the EL section might just mean that it hasn't been cleaned up yet. As far as to which sub-series the book is part of, go by what the publisher says on the final product or what the author says officially. If they don't specify, then just go with the overall basic series. The thing is, you can say "it can be argued", but in the end that's still technically one person's opinion on what part of the series or sub-series the book belongs in. A far better way of phrasing it would be "the book is the fourteenth novel set in the Honorverse in the main Honor Harrington series and brings in story lines and elements from the "Saganami Island" sub-series" or something to that extent. Until the author or publisher officially states that it's part of the sub-series, you have to go with the basics and just assume that it's a cross-over but is considered part of the main series. It's kind of like how several comic companies will have cross overs from their comics. For example, volume 13 of the Fables comic series deals heavily with a crossover from Jack of Fables, even going so far as to conclude one of the story arcs. Yet despite all of that, it's still considered to be part of the main Fables series and not technically a Jack of Fables volume. It brings in elements and story lines, but that doesn't make it a volume in the Jack of Fables series. It just makes it a crossover. In any case, this is sort of a moot discussion since released or no, SoF lacks coverage and should just be redirected at this time. When/if it gets more coverage, hopefully it'll clear up a lot of stuff and any of the minor stuff can be sourced by things other than other articles.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 18:19, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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You're welcome! Articles with no pictures are just so dull and sad to me. I found it on his website nolan . house . gov, and it can be found in the "about" section on his website. Or if you click on the photo to make it larger there should be a direct link to the photo in the description box. I will try to search for the larger version of his Official Congressional Portrait, but with the 113th Congress just settling in it may be a while before it get uploaded to his personal House website, or the portraits get released on house . gov.

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Thanks for your help keeping the committee articles up-to-date. I do have a few thoughts on formating, though. First, the current style has evolved over the last several years through consensus, and a lot of editors don't like to see wholesale changes. There's nothing wrong with being bold and adding new formatting and ideas, but if there is an edit conflict it's best to take it to the project discussion page. There is a general style guide up at the Congress WikiProject.

With respect to the "new members" section, some find too many headers in the bullet table list distracting. Simpler is better in my opinion, but consensus rules so I'm always open for a change. The main problem I have with adding that section directly to the bullet list is that committee membership changes throughout a Congress. We already need to keep the main list updated as items change, and a "new members" section, would be one more item we'd have to keep tabs on. I'd be OK putting them in a footnote, though.

Long-term, my real goal is to create articles for each committee with a list of their members througout history, and the length of service for each member. I think something like that would be much more useful, along the lines of the various "list of senators from state X" articles, rather than filling up the primary committee article. The primary article should be focused on the written history of the committee and it's actions, a list of current members, and important topics. Again, that's just my opinion. If you don't mind, I will take a stab and a compromise view on a "new members" section as I update committee articles. The committee rosters should be settled by now. Please don't take offense if you see these items deleted or changed. If you really think it adds to the article after seeing my suggestions, I'd welcome moving the discussion to WP:USC. Thanks again.DCmacnut<> 23:19, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm from Bismarck, but used to live in DC, hence my interest in congressional articles. I'm going to work on a sandbox to figure out alternative display options for committees.DCmacnut<> 02:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't think there's anything nefarious. The Budget committee simply hasn't organized yet, and I would expect anything until next week. The House GOP have been at their conference retreat this week.
On your reference example, there's a simpler method to call the references using named refs. That's too many footnotes. For DCmacnut<> 01:19, 20 January 2013 (UTC)a list like this, I think it's sufficient for a single reference for the entire list feather than person-by-person. DCmacnut<> 01:19, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

New Members[edit]

Thanks again for updating the committees. I've given your idea to highlight the new members of the committee some more thought. In most cases, there is no specific source for which members are new. Without a reliable source, we are left comparing the list between this Congress and the last, which could violate the prohibition on original research. In the cases where the committee has a press release or other source saying "here are the new members", I think we'll have to leave that information out. I'm also fine tuning the references as I mentioned to make things look cleaner.DCmacnut<> 17:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree there needs to be a separate footnote when someone leaves or is added to the committee at a later date. But we don't tend to do that with the initial committee resolutions at the beginning of a Congress. It would be best to treat the first list as static, and then footnote changes as needed later. With respect to seniority for prior service, footnotes where we can find sources are good. But since each Congress is a new congress, the committees are not continuing bodies from one Congress to the next. Seniority on a committee matters in determining seniority, but the resolution laying out seniority takes precedence over a previous congressional committee membership list.DCmacnut<> 23:46, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Delete Doug Collins of New York ???[edit]

The only Collins I see on the House Committee on Small Business is Chris Collins of New York. Sk8terguy27Talk 07:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Electrolux Ankarum Assistent[edit]

Hi, I'm Lstanley1979. LP-mn, thanks for creating Electrolux Ankarum Assistent!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Hi. I've had to copy-edit this article, since it included a lot of material that was not necessarily encyclopaedic - please see WP:OR. Please see if you can add some more third-party, neutral WP:Reliable sources - thanks!

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. LS1979 (talk) 20:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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Redrose64: I consider myself to be an above average Wikipedia user or contributor, but NOWHERE near the level of "Guru" or "Editor". As a result, while I may know this, that or the other thing, there are some big gaps in my knowledge. Examples include the Move command, formatting titles, and so forth.
When the (original) Electrolux Ankarum Assistent web page was (in my opinion) vandalized to Electrolux Ankarsum Assistant, I had to react fast, and correct the misspelling of Assistent. BUT, at the same time I notice that _I_ had introduced a misspelling, and double-fixed it to Electrolux Ankarsrum Assistent (forgot the R in Ankarsrum).
Anyway, I didn't have the time to investigate the correct way, I just had to "Get R Done"; (I so hate that phrase!).

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BTW, please note that _NOW_ I'm trying to use the Talk page re the Move command for the latest move proposal.

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