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I recognize that this user page belongs to the Wikipedia project and not to me personally. As such, I recognize that I am expected to respectfully abide by community standards as to the presentation and content of this page, and that if I do not like these guidelines, I am welcome either to engage in reasonable discussion about it, to publish my material elsewhere, or to leave the project.


My real name is Larry Pieniazek and I like LEGO(r) Brand building elements. Feel free to mail me with comments or concerns if you don't want to post. As a note, I rarely get involved in anything any more, I confine my activity at WMF projects to a little light editing here and there, so your email is most likely to get a response on your talk page that I got it and I'm not going to do anything about it.

  • Here about a BLP that's persistently getting vandalized and you want me to semi protect it? Leave a note below, (User:Lar/Liberal Semi is no longer in use) and I or one of my TPWs will get it.
  • Here to leave me a message? Response time varies depending on where I'm active... Ping me if it's truly urgent, or find another admin.
  • Here about accountability? see my accountability page.
    Note: The apparent listification of the category (it's back but may go away again) does not change my commitment to my recallability in any way

Please read the two blue boxes :).

A Note on how things are done here:

Being a "grumpy old curmudgeon", I have certain principles governing this talk page which I expect you to adhere to if you post here. (This talk page is my "territory", (although I acknowledge it's not really mine, it's the community's) and I assume janitorial responsibility for it.)

  • Please observe Wikipedia:Etiquette and Talk Page Etiquette here.
  • I may, without notice, refactor comments to put like with like, correct indents, or retitle sections to reflect their contents more clearly. If I inadvertently change the meaning of anything, please let me know so I can fix it!
  • While I reserve the right to delete comments I find egregiously poor form, I am normally opposed to doing so and use monthly archives instead. If you post here, your words will remain here and eventually in the archives, so please do not delete them, use strikeouts. In other words, think carefully about what you say rather than posting hastily or heatedly.
  • Edit warring here is particularly bad form. One of my WP:TPW's may well issue a short block, so don't do it.
  • When all else fails, check the edit history.
(cribbed from User:Fyslee's header... Thanks!)
(From User:Lar/Eeyore Policy)
A Note on threading:

Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply.

Being a "bear of very little brain", I get easily confused when trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page.

  • If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it.
  • If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it.

I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually. Ping me if you really need to.

please note this is a personal preference rather than a matter of site policy

(From User:Lar/Pooh Policy)


Archives[edit]

Talk Page Archives
My 2011 archived talk
Archive 74 1 January 2011 through 1 February 2011
Archive 75 1 February 2011 through 1 March 2011
Archive 76 1 March 2011 through 1 April 2011
Archive 77 1 April 2011 through 1 May 2011
Archive 78 1 May 2011 through 1 June 2011
RfA Thank Yous
RFA Archive Howcheng (27 Dec 2005) through present
All dates approximate, conversations organised by thread start date

Note: I archive off RfA thank yous separately, I think they're neat!
An index to all my talk page archives, automatically maintained by User:HBC Archive Indexerbot can be found at User:Lar/TalkArchiveIndex.

This is Lar's talk page, where you can send messages and comments to Lar.

The Bugle: Issue LXI, March 2011[edit]

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U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter, Spring 2011[edit]

Hello. We have a new issue at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Newsletter/Issues/Volume04/Issue02. Rschen7754bot (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXII, April 2011[edit]

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Thank you[edit]

You have made a very positive impression with me. I wanted to thank you for the thoughtful way that you work with others here on the encyclopedia. Lego for ever! 208.85.0.114 (talk) 23:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Slimvirgin's page on Poetlister[edit]

I've started a discussion here: [1] Mindbunny (talk) 16:51, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Next Children's Museum Backstage Pass[edit]

Hello! I wanted to personally invite you to The Children's Museum of Indianapolis' 2nd Backstage Pass and Edit-a-Thon, which will occur on Saturday, August 20. The Wikipedian in Residence project is coming up on one year and is going strong. While the first year focused on garnering institutional enthusiasm among staff, organizing multiple content donations, and guiding teens in research and article creation, the next year will focus on establishing an E-Volunteer program and more deliberately connecting with local Wikipedians and WikiProjects around the world. You can read a summary of our projects on the museum's blog, or visit the project page.

We hope you're able to attend the upcoming Backstage Pass! If you're not able to attend, but are interested in remaining involved and up to date on the museum's Wikipedia project, please sign up on our E-Volunteer page. There will also be an opportunity to participate in the Edit-a-Thon online, if you cannot attend on-site. If you'd like to make a request for images or research content from our curators, you can add to the Requests page. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope to be in touch! LoriLee (talk) 11:40, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is needed[edit]

Hello! I'm touching base with you because of your past interested in The Children's Museum of Indianapolis Wikipedia project. The museum is considering adapting a formal E-Volunteer program and they welcome your opinion as a Wikipedian. Your responses to this E-Volunteer survey will be extremely valuable. The survey will come to a close on October 1st. If you're interested, here are other ways you can help the Children's Museum's Wikipedia project. Thanks so much! LoriLee (talk) 20:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Non-free rationale for File:PeterAndJane 1a PlayWithUs 9781844223602H.jpg[edit]

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I've taken care of this and added a non-free use rationale to this cover image. --AFBorchert (talk) 07:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:AmericanBridgeCompanyLogo.jpg[edit]

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Children's Museum update[edit]

Kit Cat Klock

It's time again to share the latest news on the Children's Museum of Indianapolis Wikipedia project! In the last few months we have been busy with our third image donation, which was made up of 150 images that were professionally photographed specifically for this upload. We are asking for volunteers to categorize these images and distribute them into Wikipedia articles. Your help is appreciated! Check them out here.

We have also donated our first video and a second GLAM-Wiki Infographic to Commons. In September we were thrilled to welcome Jimmy Wales to the museum. Following our successful Edit-a-Thon and Translate-a-Thon in August, translations have continued with the help of the established QRpedia community, (particularly Russian translations thanks to Lvova!) We have begun to analyze our implementation of QRpedia codes and completed an extensive case study. In November we presented at the Museum Computer Network conference about how museums can effectively collaborate with Wikipedia. You can see more details on the Prezi.

In more general news, in addition to serving as the Children's Museum's Wikipedian-in-Residence, it was recently announced that I will be taking on the role of US Cultural Partnerships Coordinator for the Wikimedia Foundation. In this role I will be working to streamline the process of connecting interested US GLAMs with the Wikipedia community. If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to let me know. Be sure to sign up for This Month in GLAM to keep up with the latest GLAM-Wiki news from around the world (subscribe).

We have a listing of High Need and Moderate Need requests on the Ways to Help section on the project page. I encourage you to lend a hand if you're able. While the Children's Museum partnership continues to truck along, we still are in desperate need of volunteers to help disperse our images and update and maintain content. Thank you for your time and help. Happy holidays! LoriLee (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey[edit]

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Dispute Resolution – Survey Invite


Hello Lar. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released.

Please click HERE to participate.
Many thanks in advance for your comments and thoughts.


You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang DR goes to Wikimania! 11:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


Help[edit]

Forgive me I'm new. I'm an aspiring writer looking to help edit articles here. I need a neutral 3rd party to resolve an editing issue with Hullaballoo Wolfowitz here --> Jessicka

"Art Slant,[2] Juxtapoz,[3] Supacute,[4] Coagula Art Journal, [5] & Hi- Fructose [6] are all reputable 3rd party Art sources. Saying these articles are written by friends is purely speculation on your part. Jessicka's wiki page clearly states that she's an artist. Listing past art shows with 3rd party references is just like listing the albums she's released as a musician in her discography. Both are wiki relevant & significant"

Do you think you could point me in the right direction? I just need a 3rd party to have a look.

Thanks! (Lifespan9 (talk))

Lar has not edited in some time. You may wish to seek help from WP:3O for a third opinion, or WP:RSN for input regarding sourcing. KillerChihuahua?!? 17:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC).
Thanks!

Thanks! (Lifespan9 (talk))

Non-free rationale for File:TheObservatory BlankwallsCover.jpg[edit]

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Non-free rationale for File:TheObservatory Timeofrebirth small.jpg[edit]

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Beatles RfC[edit]

Hello, this message is to inform you that there is currently a public poll here, to determine whether to capitalize the definite article ("the") when mentioning the band "THE BEATLES" mid-sentence. As you've previously participated either here, here, here, or here, your input would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 23:59, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

request to restore the article in my user space[edit]

Dear Lar,

Could you, please, restore the article that I recently created in my user space? It was deleted because of some glitch which is easy to fix but I do not have a backup of the article.

The name of the article is "Paul B. Wiegmann"

Thanks a lot,

Awwriter (talk) 18:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Awwriter, Lar hasn't edited WP in over a year, you might want to ask a more active admin, perhaps User:Dreadstar. Montanabw(talk) 22:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Notice of change[edit]

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Non-free file File:Flag of the African Union.svg[edit]

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Article notability notification[edit]

Hello. This message is to inform you that an article that you wrote recently, Pghbridges.com, has been tagged with a notability notice. This means that it may not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Please note that articles which do not meet these criteria may be merged, redirected, or deleted. Please consider adding reliable, secondary sources to the article in order to establish the topic's notability. You may find the following links useful when searching for sources: "Pghbridges.com"news · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images. Thank you for editing Wikipedia! VoxelBot 02:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

If someone else wants to do something about this, they are more than welcome. I'm not convinced it's notable any more. ++Lar: t/c 17:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

You back?[edit]

Are you really back? Or just stopping by to check the mail and take out the trash? Montanabw(talk) 21:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe. I saw some people were making edits to my user page that needed reverting. We'll see. Are you an admin yet? ++Lar: t/c 22:41, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm not that mad, yet. Montanabw(talk) 21:22, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Welcome back, if you are back. --John (talk) 22:51, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
    • I won't be as active as I was but yes I am. ++Lar: t/c 22:53, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back. :-) Nothing has changed since you left. ;-) --MZMcBride (talk) 08:30, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm shocked to hear that. ++Lar: t/c 15:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I am glad to see you back, too. You were one of the best. :) A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:23, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Larryyyyyyyyy! Whatever possessed you to jump off the wagon? --SB_Johnny | talk✌ 22:57, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

RFA. As in, it's still nightmarish, I gather. ++Lar: t/c 14:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Glad to see you back here! Kevin (talk) 00:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you all for your well wishes. ++Lar: t/c 14:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. ~ Amory (utc) 20:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Welcome back, Lar, LTNS. How was the real world? Did you enjoy your time there? Ah well, you're back here now, and that's what counts. ;-) KillerChihuahua 18:24, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Hum - intriguing... Per most of the above :) --Herby talk thyme 07:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, very nice to see you again! Maybe back on Commons soon? --MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:54, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Can't rule it out. I need to check the policy on restoration of bits at Commons and review the rules. ++Lar: t/c 14:03, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
  • [Bishzilla gives the little Lar a friendly pat.] Good little Lar back! [Picks him up, solicitously. He's looking a bit squashed.] Oh well. Little user soon decompress to usual size! bishzilla ROARR!! 14:31, 16 April 2013 (UTC).


New article: Back contamination concerns for a Mars sample return[edit]

Hi Lar, I have just received a book I ordered from the National Research Council "Assessment of Planetary Protection Requirements for Mars Sample Return Missions". So I want to read through that first and then will edit the article some more and will probably refer to the book in it. It is a good book with a lot of material in it.

Thanks for offering to look over this article when it is ready. It is still at an early stage, but if you want to see what it is like now, it is here: User:Robertinventor/sandbox I expect it to remain more or less the same,just with some more supporting references and possibly new information after I finish this book.

The aim is to write an article that shows the concerns, shows what Nasa is doing to address them, and to explain why some scientists think that Nasa is not going far enough, and to go through the legal situation, and the alternative options to a Mars sample return. I want it to be neutral in tone, of course, and to mention all the different views in the debate. The main thing I am likely to miss are, first that I may make statements that are not referenced, because of familiarity with the material. Also it is easy for me to veer away from neutrality because my own POV is with the view that a Mars sample return is not appropriate at this stage. I want that view to be clearly represented but the other ones also represented as well.

Discussion is best done on the talk page for Mars sample return so everyone can see it. It might be an idea to wait until I finish the next edit of it, in a day or two from now, when I will also announce it on the Mars sample return talk page and invite discussion there.

Thanks!

I will give it a look. Don't forget to sign your posts to talk pages with four tildes ~~~~ so it automatically inserts a signature. ++Lar: t/c 21:41, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, forgot. Robert Walker (talk) 21:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay here is my best shot so far, User:Robertinventor/Back_contamination_concerns_for_a_Mars_sample_return. Please discuss it on the talk page Talk:Mars_sample_return_mission#Back_contamination_concerns_for_a_Mars_sample_return so that everyone can join in the same discussion. Thanks for your help! Robert Walker (talk) 02:09, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to join the WikiProject Spaceflight task force[edit]

Hi Larry, seeing that you are rather active on a certain spaceflight forum (;)), I think that you expertise on Wikipedia articles editing may be of pretty good use on many articles about spaceflight. Therefore I am inviting you to add your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Members and assist the improvement of many articles across the group's area.

Thanks for attention! Galactic Penguin SST (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite, GP... I've way way cut back on my editing and I only fix typos these days as I spot them... I was in several WikiProjects in the past and they work. If you have people who are motivated to edit. Maybe at some point? ++Lar: t/c 04:02, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day 2014[edit]

Nuvola apps cookie.svg Happy First Edit Day, Lar, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Vatsan34 (talk) 08:09, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:FOUR RFC[edit]

There are two WP:RFCs at WP:FOUR. The first is to conflate issues so as to keep people from expressing meaningful opinions. The second, by me, is claimed to be less than neutral by proponents of the first. Please look at the second one, which I think is much better.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:03, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I no longer get involved in these sorts of things much, sorry. Mostly I just fix typos. ++Lar: t/c 02:34, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

A Tesla Roadster for you![edit]

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Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia! Gg53000 (talk) 20:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

A Tesla Roadster for you![edit]

Roadster 2.5 windmills trimmed.jpg A Tesla Roadster for you!
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia! Gg53000 (talk) 20:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Wandering down the hallways of time...[edit]

This was good. I doubt I'll ever express it any better. Five years later, and virtually nothing has changed. Enigmamsg 07:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

... A blast from the past! See this question on Quora for an interesting modern perspective on this issue. ++Lar: t/c 19:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day[edit]

Nuvola apps cookie.svg Happy First Edit Day, Lar, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Vatsan34 (talk) 13:43, 8 June 2014 (UTC)