User talk:Leodescal

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Proposed deletion of Banna Basic[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rajputistan[edit]

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I removed them because the views of "Vedistan" are not not notable per WP:NN and the site is not what we call a reliable source. See WP:RS. Indeed at the moment it is not even on-line! Paul B (talk) 14:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Third Way First Edition.jpeg[edit]

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Aryavart Empire[edit]

Reply to your post on my talkpage:

Dear User,

I have started to patrol wikipedia after my becoming a Novato... and check articles which are spams or are self promotional.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a free advertisement billboard.

We are strict on the issue of notability. See the guidelines here.

See Criteria for speedy deletion here. Your site falls under G11.

I do like your idea of micronation... but my individual liking wouldn't count. If your micronation gets adequate coverage in press and print media, do come back with your article and we'd be happy to host and post it. In other words, Wikipedia should not be your first and/or only resource. The website and wikia on the same is also managed and controlled by little known entities, probably you and/or your friends (or any of the so called 600 members), so the Wikipedia article is self promotional.

In all probability, your article would be deleted by an admin, but after proper reviewing. If you have something to state, then do so on the talk page of the article which will be looked at by him before taking any action. (I am posting a copy of both our talks on the article talk page for his understanding).

~ DebashisMTalk 15:36, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Aryavart Empire for deletion[edit]

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Nomination of Aryavart Empire for deletion[edit]

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Your recent edits[edit]

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edit warring[edit]

Please do not WP:edit war, as you have been doing at Brāhmī script. Edit warring is disruptive and can get you WP:blocked. You may want to read WP:BOLD for how we expect to handle proposed changes to articles. — kwami (talk) 10:37, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion of Just Basic[edit]

As you say yourself in your message on my talk page: "You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the proposed deletion notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page". This is what I have done, and I have explained why. The next step is to take it to Articles for Deletion and have the community decide. I am well aware that the article at present is lacking reliable sources, but that is not a reason to delete per se; it has in no way been proven that there are no such sources out there, just that the article does not currently use them. What's more, the vast majority of your deletion reason is about your disdain for the language in general, which is irrelevant. And I think it is quite insulting for you to assume that I don't know the meaning of reliable sources. Not only should you assume good faith, but had you bothered to look, I am an administrator, who has brought an article to featured status. Anyway, I'm going to remove the PROD notice again. Feel free to list the article on Articles for Deletion if you wish. Regards, —Celestianpower háblame 15:34, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Bhagat Singh[edit]

I have reverted you. Please see Talk:Bhagat Singh. - Sitush (talk) 12:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

This is the English language encyclopedia[edit]

Of course we are wrong in English to refer to our ordinary numerals as "Arabic", among other things they are quite different in form, although some of them are derived from the Arabic forms. Also, of course, the basic idea of using a cypher to represent the column of beads in an abacus (in other words the idea a "place" system of writing numerals) very probably originated in India. So while it may be more accurate to refer to "Hindu-Arabic" or even "Hindu" numerals, especially if we are talking about the basic idea of "place" numerals, it isn't English. You speak another language, that's fine, but not here - this is the English Language Wikipedia, and especially in running prose as opposed to when we're being hyper-accurate and pedantic "Arabic numerals" is what we call them, to distinguish them from "Roman numerals" (which aren't even originally "Roman" even, and in any case we use them differently from how the Ancient Romans did!!).

One more thing, and this is the real reason I am writing on your talk page. If we are racists here we at least keep quiet about it, out of manners. The Indians may have invented the idea of "place" numerals, which are so much more convenient than "non-place" or "tally" systems like Roman numerals, or whatever the Arabs used originally. But of course Arabs, Romans and other Westerners, and even preliterate people like Pacific Islanders or Australian Aboriginals could all count. There is no such thing as people who can't count. To imply that there is is stupid and ignorant as well as racist. In fact most Pacific Island languages, which were not written down at all until the 19th century, somehow had names for numbers into the hundreds of thousands (they just had no symbols to write them down). --Soundofmusicals (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I replied to your talk page. No reason to double post. Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk) 13:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Very true. I'll reply here. You obviously miss the point entirely, but life's too short! I certainly can't be bothered arguing over this, and above all I never "double revert" unless there is a major point to be made or a gross error to be corrected (not the case here). I regret if I misinterpreted your remarks about "Arabs not being able to count" and you weren't being racist. That was the thing that actually upset me, of course. Einstein wasn't talking about "counting" in the sense of the word I took you to mean, but the convenience that "place" numeral systems offer in making complex calculations. If that's what you actually meant - then ok, no problems. I wish you would take a moment to re-read my original remarks and try to come to terms with the concepts involved, but it's certainly not compulsory! --Soundofmusicals (talk) 14:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I am extremely regretful if any thing of what I said sounded racist. I had no intention to do that. I do appreciate that arabs translated important Sanskrit works spread it to as far as Spain. No culture have any copyright over knowledge, it is eternal and holy. Just what I meant to say is in technical terminology it isn't called just Arabic Numerals. It is correctly Hindu-Arabic numerals as used in Europe because it was introduced by Arabs but had Hindu origin. So a very nice word formed, let's use that. :) Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk) 14:56, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Bhagat Singh. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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You've been here since 2009 and I really should not need to template you like this. However, you seem not to understand how we work here and I cannot think of a better way of explaining it than this template. Now, please self-revert and continue the discussion. Sitush (talk) 11:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I find this warning false. I am established member of Sanskrit Wikipedia and often contribute at English wikipedia. I know what edit war is and when it is caused. It was you who did it, not me. You didn't waited for consensus. If you are scaring me from ban, let it be. Wikipedia policies have told me not to be afraid when you are right. Thank You. Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk) 12:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
This is the English Wikipedia project and its policies/guidelines may differ from those used by the Sanskrit project. When you are here, you are bound by this project's method of operation and that involves verifiability[ using reliable sources and the avoidance of original research. The burden is on you to substantiate your contributions, you have not done so and you are engaging in multiple reverts in defiance of our policy. So, please self-revert for now, go find some sources and stop the warring. - Sitush (talk) 12:22, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
You are just claiming without any base. Totally ridiculous baseless claims. I have gave references to his background. And you are claiming apposite of background. I advice you learn meaning of original research first. You are claiming opposite of background not me. So burden is on you. Give sources form authentic book, peer reviewed journal or verified account of a personal associate. If he changed his views from what he was brought up why his mother didn't verified it who was very close to him? Why Sukhdev or Rajguru's sources don't say anything on it? I am yet to see anything of which he said "Workers of the world unite". You are making a historical revision... trying to revive it what was attempted by colonial establishment. And have sadly no reliable source. Bring reliable source and change the article. But I wouldn't be quiet if you change it without reliable source. Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk) 12:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Leodscal, please note that the warnings I've left you on the article's talk page. You are, in fact, edit warring. Sitush has given six sources, all of which seem, at least at first glance, to meet wP:RS. You haven't given even one source to support your position. Not one. You keeping making arguments, about his mother or about his friends, but those claims hold absolutely no weight here on (I don't know the Sanskrit Wiki policies, though it's well known that is probably the second most strict Wikipedia in terms of requiring sources). If you continue either the personal attacks or the edit warring, you will be blocked. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Sir, I have made no personal attack on User:Sitush, I was just saying what communist revisionist historians tends to. I am extremely sorry if any of my comment hurt anybody's felling. I apologize for that. My point is burden of proof. I have tried to prove his surrounding, being born in very religious family and his organization's members responsible for creating largest culturo(/relegio) nationalist organization RSS. Not saying I am using them as sources of his religion. I claimed his surrounding. If person change a religion he would tell this to others. His mother come to meet him in prison every day. Yet no source of his change of religion towards atheism by his mother. No jailmates have revealed it. Actually all this is based on a letter "Why I am Atheist" came out of British Prison claimed to have been written by Bhagat Singh. It is well known that British tried many propaganda tricks like showing other comrades of him fake news papers that Bhagat Singh have turned approver. I have checked all his references very carefully. Don't get me wrong. I am not speaking without checking his sources. Instead of glaring, I checked his sources. None are book by well known writers and none of the book is recognized as authentic book. We are living in 2013. Writing and getting a book published isn't great thing. If the book is available to the User:Sitush, then see inline references in the book. When a book is written by non well known authentic historians and still it is good it gives reliable sources as references. If book have it, then give it. For such controversial debate, nothing less then article published in a good peer reviewed magazine, or some verified personal friend/near and dear/family member account. Bhagat Singh's life come every second day in Indian Newspapers. Some times it says 'it is claimed he turned atheist in his later life', this is the strongest claims they make. I am following my duty and not letting it become propaganda show for any ideology. Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk) 05:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Ganita Kaumudi[edit]

Since you are a active editor of Sanskrit Wikipedia can you translate the article to sanskrit wikipedia. Solomon7968 (talk) 08:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I would :) Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk) 10:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
If you like this then probably you will also like Sudhakar Dwivedi, Radha Charan Gupta, Bapudeva Sastri etc, etc. Solomon7968 (talk) 10:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
I would look at them. But Ganita Kaumudi have one major issue, Bijaganita isn't written by Narayan Pundit but by Bhashkara II. See Bijaganita. Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk)
Do not get your point I know Ganita Kaumudi was written by Narayan Pundit and Bijaganita by Bhashkara II. Infact I created both. But what is the problem? Solomon7968 (talk) 11:09, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I misread 'Bijganita Vatamsa' as just 'Bijaganita', vatamsa one is written by Narayan Pundi... Apologies for that misreading... Rawal of Jaisalmer (talk) 11:12, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Good Sanskrit wikipedia should have all articles on Pre Bitish era Indian Mathematicians. Solomon7968 (talk) 11:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Started it work on it. Would make a Indian Maths section too. Would give you updates of translated articles. Thanks for this good idea :)