User talk:Lisapollison

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NOTE to Myself and other users needing references:


Note to Users visiting this page[edit]

FIRST - put all NEW comments at the BOTTOM of the page!

Second... Offensive, abusive or otherwise pointless comments will be removed without comment. Do NOT revert such edits.Lisapollison 18:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

In addition:

  • I will remove all comments designed to bait me or other editors into senseless or repetitive arguments.
  • Anyone visiting this talk page for the purpose of complaining bitterly or perpetuating an argument is asked to take a deep breath and step away from the computer for 24 hours. If in a day, you still have an issue, you'll probably be in a much better frame of mind to discuss it rationally.
  • I will also remove any remark or remarks that seek to intimidate me or other users and I will report Wikistalking and Wikistalkers. Wikipedia is supposed to be a happy place, not a place where other users obsessively follow others around looking for conflict or ways to creep other editors out by letting them know you have your wiki-eye on them.

ThanksLiPollis 08:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Archived TALK[edit]

Can be found here: User:Lisapollison/Talk/Archive1 and here:User:Lisapollison/Talk/Archive2 ANd.. very soon: User:Lisapollison/Talk/Archive3

Talk has been archived 5/11/07[edit]

I have archived most of my talk thru May 11 2007. Like many wikipedians, I leave the kudos and awards where they are.LiPollis 10:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

↓Messages go down there!↓[edit]


Considering you "created" the article with your request and it wouldn't have been anywhere near as good without your input,

Updated DYK query On October 24, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Scarlett the cat, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Badbilltucker 13:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The Original Barnstar[edit]

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for your excellent contributions to Project Paranormal and your generally constructive attitude towards scepticism. - Solar 13:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

For your kind words....[edit]

One sweet turn deserves another. :) Justin Eiler 18:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Bardavon 1869 Opera House, was selected for DYK![edit]

Updated DYK query On March 2, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bardavon 1869 Opera House, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 22:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Rpp'ed Fudge[edit]

I added Fudge to the RPP page because of the increased vandalism activity. Maybe it will be accepted this time. Eggishorn 18:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Labelling JWs as "heretical"[edit]

I did not label JWs as heretical. I said some mainline Christian religions consider them as heretical. Dtbrown 00:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

And I explained why that is innapropriate in the opening paragraph. It is POV pushing. See the article's talk pageLiPollis 00:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Would you have a suggestion on how we can note that JWs are not part of mainstream Christianity? Thanks. Dtbrown 01:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, find a reliable source that accuses them of that and cite in in the article text. Don't paraphrase and don't use subjective terms. All this is dealt with on the Talk Page for the article.LiPollis 01:06, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


Responded on my talk. Smee 08:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC).

Use of CE/BCE[edit]

Hi, Just spotted your edit comment at Barrow, Alaska stating that CE/BCE is the preferred standard for eras: it isn't, but Wikipedia accepts it with no preference over the normal AD/BC. The Barrow article started off using AD and that's how it should have stayed. As a compromise I've removed all notation and just linked the years. Years from 1 can stand on their own without an era notation. Cheers. 16:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Attachment Therapy[edit]

Thanks for your entertaining Elvis note. Nice to see a bit of humour on that dour page. Unfortunately it's triggered another spat!Fainites 21:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I enjoyed the reminder of that old movie. You must have a good memory. As Fainities mentioned, it did spark some hot comments. I guess there are still some bruised feelings there. DPetersontalk 21:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Does your Harmonious Editing Club have some kind of drops or magic serum that can be delivered through the ether? Fainites (UTC)

Witch's Ladder Revision[edit]

I hope it Is improved, the only thing else i would add...A talisman is something written, I removed this from the mention in the first paragraph..Talismans, (charms as well though I won't open that can of worms) are for good luck and protection and most usually written, whether this be on an amulet, paper whatever, it Does involve words and therefore can not be the same as a rope and feathers. What you might wish to stick in something does not change what it Is.

Thanks, Me 18:38, 30 June 2007

WikiProject Guitarists newsletter[edit]

Trixie Koontz[edit]

Hi, I noticed you at List of famous dogs, I added Trixie yesterday, in error, not realizing that you already had her in there in a different section. Anyway, I left a note on the Talk:Dean Koontz page on recreating the separate article on Trixie. Any thoughts or suggestions? I've never tried to debate for a previously merged article to be re-created before and I'm not sure of the steps that need to be taken. Or do you think that she should just stay merged with Dean's article?CindyBotalk 00:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Geography of NJ COTW[edit]

I've nominated Geography of New Jersey for the article improvement drive. Support would be great for it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ZeWrestler (talkcontribs) 22:04, August 20, 2007 (UTC).

Dog article assessment requested[edit]

Hello, I picked your name out of the Wikiproject:Dogs list. The article on Benji is something you might help with. It was rated as stub class but has recently been upgraded with a great deal more text and i wonder if it might not be time to have it re-rated as start class. Please give it a look and see what you think. Thanks. cat Catherineyronwode 09:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Life Coaching article[edit]

Ok I am probably doing this wrong, but being technically challenged I have struggled for 2 days trying to communicate with you and am about to call it a day. I am adding my response to your response to my first posting below. I posted it in my talk page three times before it stuck, then realized you wanted me to contact you through your talk page. That is what I am trying to do now. If this does not work, I may just repost on the main page to get your attention. I hope you get this.

Thank you for your quick response and your understanding of my rookiness. I also appreciate you efforts to find a useful and reasonable solution. I sit in the cat bird seat of knowing, for lots of reasons, what Wikipedia is trying to educate others on. But as you can imagine, I was a bit spooked. Your response has been a big help. Thanks.

Your proposal sounds very reasonable and I do have a web page that clearly discusses these four keys that I would like linked. However, I wish to remain in the spirit of "be careful not to promote any one coach over another" as the web page does encourage readers to call TCC. I'm presenting the link here for you to research ( If you wish, I can create a more neutral page as part of the findyourcoach network that only includes the four keys only.

You also mentioned comparing coaching to therapy and other human improvement processes. I wrote a detailed comparison of coaching and consulting (the most frequently confused process with coaching) which you can also read at:

I await your response, and can appreciate the typing issues as I hunt and peck along myself on a strange keyboard. ----Bill Dueease

Primarily Primates[edit]

Hey Lisa, it seems there's been a vandal at the page on which we both worked so hard. I requested that the article be Protected. Just wanted to give you a heads-up. I know you left me a message on my Talk Page once a lo-o-ong time ago, but I didn't know what that page was nor how to respond at the time - LOL. Anyway, here is what I wrote in my request:

"Indefinite semi-protection is needed on the Primarily Primates article. Over the last few months, users have vandalized the article with biased, incendiary, and unsupported claims. The user contributing from IP address reinstated his/her edits even after the Bots removed them for having been "dubious information." This repeated vandalism has undermined the diligent efforts of myself and user LiPollis to clean up this article in alignment with NPOV policy, cite sources, and add accurate references which represent both sides of a dispute. This page should be protected for a substantial length of time. Thank you."

Well, I hope something is done. You may want to visit the talk page for and add a request to stop "contributing." I believe that if at least two people post complaints on a vandal's page, they could be banned. Take care! nycdi (talk) 11:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Leonard Kastle[edit]

"Cyomposer"??? If I handn't recognized your name, I would have reverted it as vandalism. Why did you insert the y? --Scottandrewhutchins (talk)

Easter bunny[edit]

Hallo Lisapollison- i share more or less the same opinion concerning the Easter bunny article. I have tried to include a little (verifiable change) concerning the origins of the Easter bunny tradition but it did' nt work - and now I give up. best regards from Germany Christophe Neff (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Hands Resist Him[edit]

Re:Your removal of popular culture links from Hands Resist Him... A.D. Calvo's short film Sitter was the first film to feature Bill Stoneham's painting. The film is available for viewing on Thanks!--Goodnightfilm (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

The entry was rephrased to match the other popular culture entries and is just as relevant as the ones listed.--Goodnightfilm (talk) 22:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction. --Goodnightfilm (talk) 04:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Woodsy Owl[edit]

I do apologise to get it wrong! Will do my best to be more attentive next time. Thnks for your comprehension.

Lars 14:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


No, no, it's quite all right — as you may have gathered from a post near yours on my talk page, I'd mentioned to Bernard Baily's daughter Amy that writing the initial Wiki article on her father helped keep my mind occupied during a very bad time (helping tend my mother, who has Stage III pancreatic cancer). It's funny how shared interests and anonymity (in most cases on Wiki) open up.

If you let me know what issue of TCJ it is, I'll find a copy and, being a journalist myself, try to see if there's any encyclopedic content there; it may come down to a single line, such as, "Jane Doe claims sexual harassment in a magazine article whose allegations were disseminated widely in online fan forums, but she took no legal action and John Doe and Jane Roe responded in The Comic Street Journal that the claims had basis in fact." Or whatever the specifics are, with proper citations.

Neutral tone, addressing what's been published in a reliable-source magazine, and acknowledging the wide online dissemination — altogether, acknowledging the rationale for inclusion while stating the broad facts, after which it could be argued that details are unnecessary since the allegations were never proved. That's my suggestion, as a professional, and I'd be glad to do the legwork. Julius Schwartz deserves have a professional write this, so that it's presented in the most (and I hate that Fox News co-opted the phrase) fair and balanced way. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


I've been on Wiki sparingly the last few weeks, and didn't have a chance to check some things till now. This PDF link was so thoughtful of you! I never would have known of this very good article otherwise. Thank you! -- Tenebrae (talk) 17:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I would really appreciate it if you would look over this article. As of a few days ago, I think it was a trainwreck - tangential material, lots of repetition, no contextualization. I did a major overhaul of it (but my approach was relatively conservative: I deleted fringe material and redundancies, and reorganized what was left according to distinctive points of view or approaches). It still needs work (I describe all this in greater detail on the talk page). One thing I did was provide a very abbreviated summary of how cultural anthropologists talk about culture. One thing that is sorely lacking is a section on material culture and archeology. Off the top of my head I think that something should be said about the first appearance of tools in hominan history, how archeologists study material culture (explaining words like matrix and assemblage), theories of material culture and the relationship between material culture and social organization/social life etc. Right now I am trying to focus on the core concepts/ways of conceptualizing/frameworks for study. But I do not have the knowledge of archeology to do this. So I am hopeng that you can help out ... thanks Slrubenstein | Talk 19:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Cathy O'Brien[edit]

Hi, Regards this edit, I still think it's inappropriate for a variety of reasons. For one, it's just Hammond's opinion. Second, phrased as is, he has distanced himself from it, meaning he no longer believes it - so it can't really be said to support O'Brien's opinions. The Greenbaum speech is itself, put politely, suspect. The speech itself does not mention O'Brien at all, meaning it can't be said to 'support' her claims at all and making the union of the two ideas original research in my mind. The satanic ritual abuse idea itself is seen as a moral panic (see [1], this whole book, the SRA page itself). The CIA mind control idea is a conspiracy theory with little to support it beyond the testimony of suspect individuals like O'Brien herself (and no actual proof). If nothing else, the entire section consists of stitching together plausible similarities between the accounts and saying it is corroboration. This is for me, a synthesis that should not be on the page.

Thanks, WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 13:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


Please note the manual of style regarding capitalization. In this edit, it should be Recent fiction, not the upper case. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 01:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

...and whatnot[edit]

Hola, Your talk page is pretty long, have you considerd archiving? If you paste {{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 250K |counter = 1 |algo = old(30d) |archive = User talk:Lisapollison /Archive %(counter)d }} to the top of your talk page, it'll do it for you automatically.

Also, I noticed you added a reference to glowsticking, citing google books. I looked in google books and found this, but no preview. How'd you access it? Am I looking at the wrong version? It's not really important, but if there is a preview available somewhere I can't find, I've figured out how to edit the url to link directly to a specific page. Very handy for verification for our readers.

Thanks, WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 15:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible picture of Renee Fladen?[edit]

Hey there, I just came across your post in the "Discussion" section for the "Walk Away Renee" (Left Banke song) entry. While it doesn't seem like there'd be any simple way to prove that the photo is indeed of the legendary Renee, I would think it's at least reasonable to post that link you provided on the main page, perhaps on the grounds that it discusses Billy Bragg's cover version. I'll go ahead and post it if you don't mind.

Let me know what you think! By the way, if that really is a picture of Renee Fladen, then you've totally struck gold, as (from my understanding) a picture of her is quite rare and a "hot commodity" these days!

Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pugnaces Britanniae[edit]

Hi, I noticed your name on the talk page, we are in a new discussion about the article if you would like to participate Talk:Pugnaces Britanniae. Thanks Green Squares (talk) 17:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Pickled Egg Farts[edit]

Just because it makes you uncomfortable does not mean it is vandalism. If you are going to ignore discussion pages you should remove the "harmonious editor" banner.Litch (talk) 12:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The article I refer to —Preceding unsigned comment added by Litch (talkcontribs) 11:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

re Susan Atkins[edit]

Thanks for speaking up. Oh, and I'm a she. :) Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Gosh, maybe it's our generation, though I'm betting I'm probably older. I'm older than everybody these days. I've read all of the books at some point, though I can't seem to find either Child of Satan or Paul Watkins' book anymore. It's probably in some box, though I can't remember where. I've wanted to find it more than once the last couple of years. I've actually requested the King book from interlibrary loan because another editor and I need to update and better source the Sharon Tate article before someone nominated it for a featured article review. It will be coming due one of these days and we don't want it jeopardized. He worked very hard to get that FA status and I don't want him to lose it. If you haven't read that article, I recommend it. He took a lot of care to make it more than just another Manson rehash and he succeeded very well. I actually think we did a good job on the Charles Manson article too, though we'll never try to take it to GA or FA. The first thing that was said about it when we did nominate it was that it was too long, it needed to be cut. Not interested in doing that, it's comprehensive and thorough and personally, I think it's just right. The truth is, there's a lot that could be lifted and placed into the other articles if one were so inclined.
My friend was ranting earlier today about "kids" these days and how enured they are about violence in life. This was in response to an ad for the new Rob Zombie version of Halloween 2 and that his film was symbolic of everything wrong with our society. I had to laugh because we grew up on the original version and I pointed this out. She said "Yes, but they're strangling people with their own intestines, how is that going to scare kids into not putting a little hole in someone's head? That's nothing and they learn to aim with video games!!" I told her she'd gotten old this summer. But in some aspects, she's right. The whole Manson thing is 40 years old. That's older than some of the young kids' parents and it is disjointed in time and the actual horror of it has faded into history. That lessens its impact and as you noted, opens the door for the development of sympathy for mostly the "girls". Sure, they have mostly been model prisoners and earned degrees and been teachers and coaches to the other prisoners, but then, what else did they have to do? Would they have done this without being incarcerated for life? It's easy to find the path when there are no others offered. Not very reflective of my education, I suppose, but then I'm old and jaded.
Anyway, thanks for your encouragement and keep an eye on the articles! Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Legend Tripping[edit]

Hello Lisa, First off my apologies as I have not taken the appropriate amount of time to learn the processes of working with Wikipedia. I am contacting you today simply to share the existence of my Legend Tripping Journal, located at The reason I am contacting you about my web page is due to your work in the past on the Wikipedia entry, Legend Tripping. I thought my web page might help add some quality content and hopefully give a greater scope to Legend Tripping for those looking to learn more beyond what Wikipedia currently has for that entry. That's it! I hope I haven't crossed any lines, or miss-used this section. Feel free to delete this if I have and my apologies. If not, I hope this helps! Thanks in advance for your time and efforts. Sincerely, Noah Voss Founder of Enterprises —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at WikiProject New Jersey[edit]

Hi, Lisapollison, User:Nightscream and I had a disagreement over certain parts of NJ municipality articles; because the discussion could potentially affect hundreds of articles, we decided to bring the discussion to WikiProject New Jersey. I would value your input in the discussion, which you can find here. Thanks, A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 15:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for your edits to Nutmeg. I now feel really silly for trying to keep the dosages "safe" and assuming hat they were ever right in the first place - deletion was the correct, sensible, least-dangerous path! Thank you for showing greater wisdom than I. DewiMorgan (talk) 23:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Mike Warnke[edit]

Thank you for your comments on the Mike Warnke article. The other editor has been a burr in my saddle on other articles. She is relentless in her opinion and twists the facts to suit her POV. She accuses me of doing what she is doing. I am not trying to introduce POV into the article. I am trying to back-up claims that Mr. Warnke fabricated a great deal of the history he relied on to make a living during the late 70s and early 80s. He still has a small but loyal following. They have, over the past two years, removed reference to many of these inaccuracies. If you check the change log, most of Kelly's edits have been to put her twist on the article. She has clarified a few military terms. She has also attempted to remove the distinctions that I have inserted. I am done with my edits for now, and Kelly can go joust at other windmills. Thanks again for your comments. One thing further, do you notice how she came back and told you that she wasn't the problem without taking your advice of cooling off? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 12:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Re Deleting gay references[edit]

Just to say I agree that it can be frustrating to see refs to gay identity deleted, whether the person in question was out or not. Here's one I'm keeping an eye on: David I. Walsh. I was doing some work on this article and simply said Walsh never married while I went to find more detailed refernces. Someone added the fact that he was homosexual and someone else deleted that text with the note "don't need this". So now I've added a lot of material -- his homsexuality was part of quite a scandal in 1942 and even got FDR involved. Now I'm watching and waiting. I'd be happy to hear of other cases, especially historical figures, by which I mean U.S. history not Alexander the Great. Cheers. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 17:44, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to say that I can't trace back to where you -- I believe it was you -- complained about such deletes. I'll be sure to track my path more carefully before I write anything along similar lines in future. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 21:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Here's what I found on my Talk page by looking through the changes made to it. I don't archive it so much as remove stuff that isn't particularly informative. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 21:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
It will help me out greatly if you could tell me what comment of mine (or where it is) that prompted your message to me! I'd like to help but I'm at a disadvantage. LiPollis (talk) 19:44, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
It's OK, I do share your concerns and I will keep a lookout on that article. Feel free to call me for help if you think it's being done to another article. I wonder if maybe it was in the article on John Money? I n the archived talk, I fought to preserve mention of his discreet, but open bisexuality. Talk:John Money/Archive 1. Could that have been what made you remember how I felt about such things? LiPollis (talk) 01:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

The Pied Piper of Hamelin[edit]

Hiya! Since this is still in "pending" on the talk page for the article from last year, I was wondering if you could please recheck your reference as added on to confirm that 1384 date, since this conflicts with 1284 & window stated date c.1300 without further explanation. Many thanks & Best wishes, David. Harami2000 (talk) 17:38, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Cats[edit]

As you are a member, please help with the creation of Canadian Cat Association. I would appreciate it. Thanks, Brambleclawx 00:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Susan Atkins[edit]

Hi. Back after the death of Atkins, you commented about natural causes as a given cause of death. Now, an issue has arisen and it would be beneficial if you could possibly weigh in it at Talk:Susan Atkins#COD for another opinion. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Leonard Kastle[edit]

Thanks for letting me know. I never met Leonard Kastle. I knew him only from the DVD of The Honeymoon Killers and did a little research when I learned that he wrote operas. My condolences to you. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 00:20, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


Hi Lisa,

Do you have a plan for tomorrow morning yet? I will try to be there myself about 9:30 AM. Get me at 805-380-5128 if you need to. howcheng {chat} 03:54, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Gerald Robinson (priest)[edit]

I've made some changes to this article and its Talk. As you made a comment on the impartiality of the article, but 4 years ago, you might be interested and might miss the changes. Pol098 (talk) 04:10, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Military history coordinator election[edit]

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WikiWomen's Collaborative[edit]

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As a WikiWoman, we'd love to have you involved! You can do this by:

Feel free to drop by our meta page (under construction) to see how else you can participate!

Can't wait to have you involved! SarahStierch (talk) 01:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

You're invited! FemTech Edit-a-Thon at Claremont Graduate University[edit]

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Sign up here - see you there! 01:07, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


Please watch out for WP:SYN and WP:PEACOCK in the use of "popularity" such as you used the word here.Curb Chain (talk) 07:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lisa! Thank you for your reply. Is there a list of articles that you have? I don't have any articles at the moment that I need help with, but will let you know! Thanks Lisa!.Curb Chain (talk) 20:34, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

San Diego Comic-Con International meetup proposal[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/LA/SDCC1. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Gil Kane[edit]

Thanks, Lisa! Please feed me as much material as you can.

I'm afraid two of the sources can't be used for citations: The "Jew Age" Gil Kane page is just a Wikipedia mirror site. And the Bronze Age blog is just someone's personal blog who's not a recognized author in the field; we can't cite such self-published sources. However, the latter can definitely serve to provide leads that can be verified by [{WP:RS|reliable sources]]. (On a side note, I have a magazine that actually contains that Buitoni ad — I'd immediately recognized it as Gil's work.)

I do have that Alter Ego issue as a print magazine, and while I hadn't seen any specific facts in it that the Wikipedia article doesn't already contain, looking at it again, it it does have some quotes and some expanded context that I think I should add to the article.

I would have imagined that the Aventura News, the local community paper where he lived, would have had something, but its online archives don't appear to go back very far and a search there for "Gil Kane" turns up no results. Same with The Miami Herald and the South Florida Sun Sentinel. But with the two of us plugging away, we'll find more biographic stuff eventually. He must have spoken about his wives and families at some point, one would imagine. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:18, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, I might be able to help with that. Go to my user page at Tenebrae, and in the lefthand navigation bar you'll see "Email this user." I'm a journalist, so please get in touch with me. Perhaps I have an idea. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
I'd be happy to, but if you'd like to try the link first, here it is:
--Tenebrae (talk) 16:05, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

2013 Wikinic[edit]

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Edit-a-thons at UC Riverside[edit]

The UCR Libraries are hosting three edit-a-thons focusing on their great special collections (science fiction, water resources, the Inland Empire and more) on Oct. 12, 2013, Oct. 26, 2013, and Nov. 23, 2013. Please participate if you can! Details and signup here. All are welcome, new and experienced editors alike! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 04:09, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA in downtown LA[edit]

LA Meetup: March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the Museum of Contemporary Art in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday, March 9, 2014 from 11 am to 6 pm! This event is in collaboration with MOCA and the arts collective East of Borneo and aims to improve coverage of LA art since the 1980s. (Even if contemporary art isn't your thing, you're welcome to join too!) Please RSVP here if you're interested.

I hope to see you there! User:Calliopejen1 (talk)

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May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon in LA[edit]

LA Meetup: May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon
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You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the Junipero Serra Branch of the LA Public Library (4607 S. Main St., 90037) on Saturday, May 10, 2014 from 10 am to 4 pm! This event is sponsored by the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center and the Asian Pacific American Librarians Association and aims to improve coverage of Asian Pacific American topics, particularly as they relate to southern California. Please RSVP here if you're interested.

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Wiki Loves Pride 2014[edit]

Hi Lisa. In case you are not aware, there is an upcoming campaign to improve coverage of LGBT-related topics on Wikipedia, culminating with an international edit-a-thon on June 21. See Wiki Loves Pride 2014 for more information. If you are interested, you might consider creating a page for a major city (or cities!) near you, with a list of LGBT-related articles that need to be created or improved. This would be a tremendous help to Wikipedia and coverage of LGBT culture and history. Thanks for your consideration, and please let me know if you have any questions! --Another Believer (Talk) 15:55, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

LA edit-a-thons on May 23 and 31[edit]

LA meetups: Adrianne Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thons on May 23 and May 31
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Dear fellow Wikipedian,

There are two LA edit-a-thons in memory of Adrianne Wadewitz, a prolific Wikipedia editor, in the coming weeks. Please join us May 23 at Occidental College and May 31 at the Institute of Cultural Inquiry to combat systemic bias and help further Adrianne's legacy. No experience needed! Please RSVP at the relevant page(s) if you plan to attend.

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June 2014[edit]

L.A. events on June 21 and July 6[edit]

Upcoming L.A. events: Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon (Saturday, June 21, 12-5pm) and Wiknic (Sunday, July 6, ~9:30am-4pm)

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Dear fellow Wikipedian,

The L.A. Wikipedia community has two exciting events coming up in the next few weeks: an edit-a-thon sponsored by the online magazine East of Borneo, and the fourth annual Los Angeles Wiknic!

The East of Borneo event is an edit-a-thon that aims to build a better history of art in Southern California. This next chapter of their Unforgetting L.A. series will take place on Saturday, June 21, 2014 from 12pm to 5pm at 356 S. Mission Rd. (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. For more info, see

The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Sunday, July 6, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible!

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Wallace Chafe[edit]

Thanks for the thanks, but I am strictly an amateur linguist with a strong interest in Native American languages. (I can stumble thru Lakhota, and have studied Navaho, Eskimo [Inyupiaq], Ojibwe, Chickasaw, Mohawk, Naahuatl, Maya [Yucatec], Qheshwa and Guarani, taking one language from each major family.) I bought the Seneca Handbook recently, and thought it should be added to Prof. Chafe's page. If you actually studied under him, then I am very envious. I have many questions which I would love to put to a real linguist. Norm mit (talk) 18:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

You have certainly studied under some of the giants of native American linguistics. I have read and admired works by them, even tho it is only a hobby. My day job is writing computer programs (I have degrees in math), but I love browsing language books. Native American languages are by far my favorite because they are both exotic and very different from each other. (I mean, you learn one Bantu language or one Romance language, and you've practically learned them all.) The only languages I have studied formally are Spanish, Hebrew, Russian, Mandarin and Ancient Greek, but I have dabbled in many others.

I'm very impressed too that you did actual fieldwork in Mohawk. When I was in the city of Tiotiake for a film festival (I think the white men call it Montreal), I did a day trip to the Kahnawaake reserve south of town. I was amused that the traffic signs were all in Mohawk, with English subtitled. (No French here!) I was also impressed with the "language nests" for young children that they are using to teach Mohawk.

Another time I was in Omaha on business, and took the weekend off, driving to a nearby (4 hour) Lakhota reservation where they were having a powwow. I managed to greet a few people in Lakhota. (“Hello” amazingly is really the Hollywood word "how!", apparently taken from English, since no other words contain diphthongs.)

So, in answer to your suggestion, I would indeed be interested in your old language material and would be happy to pay shipping and handling to my home in Maryland. (Media mail!)

By the way, I have an early '70's book by Marianne WILLIAMS on Mohawk. Therefore, was that her married name or perhaps is Mithun? ("Mithun" is a word in Sanskrit/Hindi and means "pair" or "couple".)

I don't have a Facebook page, but my home page is if you want to read about me.

Thanks again for the interesting exchange, and-- Ahkwesáhsne. Norm mit (talk) 20:56, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

I sent an e-mail to but I'm not sure you got it. So, to recap, thank you again for the generous offer of the books. I will of course pay shipping and handling and a pour-boire. Send me a list first in case I have some already, and you might want to continue offering those for sale. If you didn't get it, my phone is 301-980-6374 day/cell, and 301-229-9625 (evening). Norm mit (talk) 16:10, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

L.A. Meetup on September 21[edit]

The 20th Los Angeles meetup: Sunday, September 21 from 11am to 4pm

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

Join us on Sunday, September 21, from 11am to 4pm at Kramer Studio in Mid-City (map) for a meetup and edit-a-thon! Get to know the Los Angeles Wikipedia community and do some editing (or learn to edit!) in a collaborative environment. Please RSVP and consider becoming a member of the SoCal task force to help us improve articles about everything in the region.

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CII, September 2014[edit]

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election[edit]

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:06, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

L.A. events on October 7 and 16[edit]

Upcoming L.A. events: Wik-Ed Women edit-a-thon (10/7, 6-10pm) and UCR edit-a-thon (10/16, 10am-4pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

The Southern California Wikipedia community has two exciting events coming up in the next few weeks: a Wik-Ed Women editing session downtown designed to combat systemic bias, and a Wikipedia Loves Libraries event at UC Riverside!

Wik-Ed Women is a new monthly series of informal Wikipedia editing sessions for Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. This second session will take place on Tuesday, October 7 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend.

The UC Riverside Wikipedia Loves Libraries event is an edit-a-thon targeting articles related to UC Riverside, SoCal, and beyond. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Thursday, October 16 from 10am to 4pm at UCR's Tomás Rivera Library. Again, RSVPs are requested here.

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:47, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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SoCal edit-a-thons on October 21 and 25[edit]

Upcoming SoCal edit-a-thons: UC Riverside (10/21, 10am-3pm) and Unforgetting L.A. (10/25, 9am-5pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian,

The Southern California Wikipedia community has two more events scheduled for the month of October: a water-related edit-a-thon at UC Riverside, and an Unforgetting L.A. event at the Los Angeles Archives Bazaar in conjunction with L.A. as Subject!

As part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries and to celebrate Open Access Week, UC Riverside is participating alongside other Western Waters Digital Library members in an edit-a-thon focusing on water issues. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Tuesday, October 21 from 10am to 3pm at UCR's Orbach Science Library (map). RSVPs are requested here.

The Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon and training workshop will take place at the 9th annual Los Angeles Archives Bazaar, and is hosted by online magazine East of Borneo in partnership with L.A. as Subject. Join us on Saturday, October 25 from 9am to 5pm at the USC Doheny Memorial Library (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend.

I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:06, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014, Redux[edit]

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