User talk:Llywelyn2000

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The Remittance[edit]

Hi,

You started the above article on this ship, but it has a few problems, perhaps you can take a look and fix them?

The article on a ship should be on the ship, not just one voyage of it (unless it was a very well known or exceptional voyage). There is also no information given that would show why this particular ship is sufficiently notable amongst ships, to merit an article.

Can you take a look?

Thanks. FT2 (Talk | email) 19:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll recreate with additional info another time. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Nationality in biographies[edit]

Please note that Wikipedia bases nationality on place of birth, not ancestral heritage or ethnic background. As John Dee was born in London, he is English for the purposes of opening sentence and categories. The only exception to this is if the subject changed their nationality (i.e., moved to the US for example and became a naturalized US citizen). If you wish to add material on Dee's ancestral heritage, please have verifiable sources and put in the appropriate section of the article, creating a new section or subsection if necessary. Thank you. Bob (QaBob) 23:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

So Edward 11 should be Welsh! Please ammend. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 21:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Welsh Wicipedia[edit]

Many thanks for your message on my talk page - and I'm very excited to hear from you! We are currently working to set up a local "chapter" of the Wikimedia Foundation called Wikimedia UK which will work to further the interests of all people who edit any of the Wikimedia projects from across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Given the particular interests of the indigenous minority language speakers, such as Welsh, I am particularly keen to find a way of getting people from those projects involved.

In the future it may be appropriate to have a separate Wikimedia Wales either as a separate branch of Wikimedia UK or a separate chapter, and we can work together to get this sorted.

Would you be interested in getting involved? cheers AndrewRT(Talk) 20:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

My problem is time at the moment: I'm running after my own tail! In theory, yes of course. At the same time, my priority must be 1. my family 2. Wicipedia Cymraeg! On the other hand, my heart reaches out! On this understanding... Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks and understood! We have a message that we're currently putting out to all relevant WikiProjects at Template:WMUK_WikiProject. We'd love to have this translated into Welsh so we can spread the word on the projects relevant there. Would you be able to help with this at all? Also, please let me know if there's anything we can do to help with Wicipedia Cymraeg or any other projects. Cheers! AndrewRT(Talk) 21:11, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Battle of the Winwaed[edit]

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Canal maps on Wicipedia[edit]

Thanks for your message. I am translating the maps into Cymraeg. Getting the technical Welsh for the template instructions right has been a bit difficult, but I think that is more or less done. I am now working on translating the Camlas Castell-Nedd map, with just a few place names left. My other difficulty is categories, as I need some new ones but am not sure how you do that (even on English Wikipedia). Thanks for the encouragement. As you spotted, I do not speak Welsh, but know someone at Dwr Cymru who helps me a bit. Bob1960evens (talk) 10:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


Speedy deletion nomination of Categori:Pobl o Bouches-du-Rhône[edit]

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Rhys Meirion[edit]

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The Bot, stupidly, picked up the list of works! No problems here. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:43, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey Llywelyn, I removed several instances of similar text in the article. I understand much of it was his works but a good portion was copied and pasted and could be reworded differently to avoid a copyvio. If you see the comparison from the previous version, instances like "barbados toronto ottawa and florida and often appears as guest soloist in opera galas with royal philharmonic orchestra" can be reworded differently. I also removed more from another source, you can see the original matches here. Most of those matches can be reworded differently as well. Before the article was derivative work. Feel free to rewrite the text and if you have any questions, let me know. WP:COPYPASTE is a good reference for guidance on the issue. As far as the other works that are hard to avoid a match. I think it would be good in general to put them into a chart (Play, character) as it would be presented better for readers.--NortyNort (Holla) 09:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Robin Llwyd ab Owain[edit]

Hello Llywelyn2000. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Robin Llwyd ab Owain, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: to have won tha chair at the National Eisteddfod is enough claim of importance to pass the fairly low bar of A7. Consider PROD or AfD if you like, but I would myself have thought it was enough for notability. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 11:24, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Against my opinion. I accept your decission, however. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 12:22, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Goronwy ap Tudur Hen[edit]

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Hill Forts[edit]

TRADITIONA and NGR_X NGR_Y SH219829 221915 382913 The list, as you can see is vertical. Can I batch-convert either format within Excel?

Yes, I am sure you would find it good to get to grips with this:-

Select and 'copy' the cells with the grid refs, go into batch concert and paste them into the top box. Select 'grid ref', 'column 1', and 'tab seperator' and hit convert. The bottom box will then give you five columns - grid ref, ngrx, ngry, coord_N, and coord_Y. (It always claims to have errors, but the data is all there). Copy these and paste them back into excel (In OpenOffice i have to specify tab separator from a box when I do that), to line up with the other data. That is where the fun starts. You can adapt this to suit, and I am aware this is open office syntax which I am not sure follows excel exactly, but if, for example you had id in column A, name in B, county in C, community in D and the coords etc in E,F,G,H,I then in J you could paste:

="|"&A4&"||[["&B4&"]]||<div align=""right"">"&E4&" {{streetmap|"&F4&"|"&G4&"}}</div>|| {{coord|"&H4&"|"&I4&"|name="&B4&"|region:gb_type:landmark_dim:5km|format=dms}}||"&C4&"||"&D4&"|-"  

The ampersands join the cell refs with the text in quotes. This will then produce a line formatted to be a wiki table entry. Once the top line is how you want it, copy it and paste it down the whole list, then copy that column of cells again and paste it into the wikipedia (you will need to separately set up the table header and tail. I think it also needs you to manually carriage return the '|-' from the end of each line (I do this in a word processor with find and replace, which is another jungle again). RobinLeicester (talk) 19:00, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Left a message for you here, Robin. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 20:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Weather box[edit]

See http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgwrs_Defnyddiwr:Llywelyn2000#Weather_box. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Brill! A great start. Yes I'll translate the rest here for you tomorrow. Many thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 23:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems to be done. There is one minor error that I am aware of but as I don't know how long it would take to find someone to fix I decided to go with it, The error appears only on pages that use the imperial measures (United States). For some reason it converts inches to cm for rain and precipitation rather than mm. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 01:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
It's been a while but I would start here at the Met Office. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 20:57, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

CY Adminstats[edit]

Adminstats are under way but since I can't read Welsh, I used Google translator to help me with the documentation. Feel free to check for errors. Could you direct me to the bot approvals page so I can submit an approval?—cyberpower ChatOffline 03:51, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your hard work. The Bot request page is here. I'll check the translation in a second. Diolch yn fawr! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 04:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Google Translate corrected. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 04:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Bot is ready to run. I am waiting for approval.—cyberpower ChatOffline 05:00, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok, bot is not ready to run. There appear to be some database issues which is causing the script to hang up when it does a selective call to the database for cy.wikipedia. This may take some time to work out.—cyberpower ChatOnline 02:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Adminstats for cy.wikipedia are now operational thanks to the help of TParis. I see flagged by bot as a bot however, for loggin purposes I need a formal approval on that page to start the bot there. I also posted this on your cy.wiki page as well. See this for the bot approval request. Thanks.—cyberpower ChatLimited Access 11:03, 27 March 2012 (UTC) Do you have watchlist notices on the Welsh Wikipedia?—cyberpower ChatLimited Access 11:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Rolls yr Hendre, Family Tree[edit]

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John Rolls, 1st Baron Llangattock[edit]

Off I go to check The Rolls Hall, Monmouth needs a "the" for the portrait, I return to the above page to put it in and I find you've beaten me to it! The family tree looks great. At The Hendre there's a discussion as to whether the history of the family should be moved to a page just on the family, leaving the Hendre to focus on the building and grounds. Fancy taking it on? Regards. KJP1 (talk) 05:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your kind words.I should think you're much better informed on the subject than I! After saying that, I'll give it a go tomorrow.... if you havn't beaten me to it! Today: my cup overflows! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Brilliant. Made some good articles even better Victuallers (talk) 07:37, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
I've made a few corrections, and I will continue to work further on the template; any further additions such as dates would be greatly appreciated. As I've said elswhere, ::::I'll also create an article on the Rolls Family in the next few days. Most of the work has been done by better people than I, all that needs to be done, really, is to collate the information under one article. Such an interesting family really deserve an article to themselves. Thanks for your help, and your fantastic work on MonmouthpediA. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:50, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

April 2012[edit]

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I was just going to congratulate you on the Rolls family article, which is very good, and I see the discussion on the family tree template has revived. As I said on that Talkpage, I really know very little about template conventions (make that nothing!) but I'm wondering if the article on the family were made more extensive, and material on the family was removed from other articles, e.g. The Hendre, would that strengthen the case for retention? All the best. KJP1 (talk) 06:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
It certainly will need doing once the new Rolls family article goes on live. In fact now that, if there are no major problems with that page, I'll start doing it now. Let me know if anything needs correcting, please. Thanks for responding, and for your kind words! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:22, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
OK; the new article is The Rolls Family, Monmouth, family tree cut up in two and made smaller! It might be less painful for you to cut the family bit out of The Hendre article; I suggest we condense it to 2 - 3 paragraphs. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:54, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
It's probably just me being particularly stupid, but I don't understand why some of the boxes are pink and others green. What is the significance, and should it be explained? Ghmyrtle (talk) 06:54, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi. It started off in order to highlight to whom the Hendre was passed on to. But as you correctly suggest: it needs clarifying - just like my home-made elderflower wine! All white and no pink? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 07:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
OK - unless you want to differentiate between male and female. If there is a "house style" anywhere, I suppose that should be used. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
He! The in-house default is white; I've changed all articles now to that colour. Thanks for pointing it out. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:19, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

New messages[edit]

I posted on your Welsch talk page.—cyberpower ChatLimited Access 12:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Pleasure to meet you[edit]

Thanks for your presentation today, and for sharing the meeting with us this weekend. I'm only a short train ride away if you want someone to help you persuade partner organisations. For the training links I mentioned, take a look at this and especially this. Cymru am byth. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:21, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Croeso. It was good to see that all Board members aknowledge their responsibility to help the Welsh Language Wiki-cy, and offered help, again. It was an insight into how you work and confirmed to me that the work carried out by the Board is extremely valuable. Thanks Martin. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:42, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist notice for Welsch Wikipedia![edit]

You can edit the watchlist notice here.—cyberpower ChatAbsent 14:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Gazetteer data[edit]

Hi Llywelyn, it was good to meet you yesterday. I think the Ordnance Survey's 1:50k Gazetteer dataset will be of interest to you - you can download it free-of-charge (and free of any usage restrictions) from their website [1].
It's a colon-delimited text file of all places marked on OS 1:50k maps. You should be able to import it into Access or something similar. You can use the F_CODE column to select just the features of interest - "C" for cities, "T" for towns" and "O" for other settlements. There are lat/long coordinates and British National Grid coordinates for each place. It's probably technically possible to calculate the nearest town to each village somehow.
Welsh and English names are given for some places in Wales, separated by a slash, e.g. "Swansea/Abertawe". There are no Welsh names given for English places.
What's missing though is any population information. I've had a look on data.gov.uk and the ONS website, but both are running unusably slowly today (could be a problem with my connection), so I haven't been able to find anything. I'll have a look at work tomorrow if I get chance.
Hope that helps. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 10:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello, it's me again. I've completely failed to find a decent dataset with populations unfortunately. However, I've done some GIS analysis on the OS 50k gazetteer to identify the nearest city to every town, and the nearest city/town to every other place. You should be able to download my processed files from here [2] (you'll need to put your email address in, but only I will see this). It's not perfect - there are some duplicates in the villages file (where the village is exactly the same distance from two or more towns). Also the analysis ignores towns that are next to each other - linking to the nearest city instead, e.g. Thornton is next to Blackpool (which would be the logical nearby place to name in the article), but I give the distance from the city of Preston instead, which is smaller and further away. We are of course stuck with any errors in the original OS data - I've cleaned up a few, but there are bound to be several more. Let me know if you need anything else. Bazonka (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Bore da! Whaw! You move quickly! I haven't had a look yet at the data, but one problem that I foresee is that If I use the distance field on it's own, how do I then merge other fields such as population, number out of work etc. The other way of doing it, of course would be to get a bot to copy this information from the English Infobox to the Welsh Infobox, which could then be done every time info is changed, automatically, or is this too much to ask. I think User:RexxS mentioned that he could do it. The "Distance to London" is on the English one; which would be ok as long as we could also input the distance to Cardiff by another Bot using your data.
However, it's only the "population" field that changes (once every 10 years). I think the main fields are: population, distance from London / nearest town, number on JSA, together with SOME of the fields we find in the "infobox UK place". Maybe we could start off with all the towns in England and Scotland? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Distances from London and Cardiff (and Edinburgh?) should be relatively easy to calculate using a bit of Pythagoras theorem on the co-ordinates. If you want, I can do this for you. But I'm not sure about the census stuff. Taking the data from the Infoboxes on the English Wikipedia is a good idea, but Bots are a mystery to me so I can't help with that. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 16:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. That would be a great addition to the Infobox; however I still need to find a decent database with the rest of the stuff. Maybe I'll take a look at Infobox/talk page: they might have used something similar to create the English articles? Iechyd da! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 18:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I've updated the list of towns with new fields for distance (in km) from London, Cardiff and Edinburgh. I've also split the Welsh (and a couple of Scottish) names into a new field, and cleaned up some errors. Data can be downloaded from here [3]. If you find this useful I can do the villages file too. Daliwch ati! Bazonka (talk) 21:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
You move mountains! That's a great start! Whaw; even a column of the Welsh names; Diolch. The geographical coordinates will be really useful - essential. I'll use them in the same pattern as I've done with the Scottish peaks. What's the Town ID (Column 1)? Is it acknowledge throughout Britain or only for the IA? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 03:50, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
The Town_ID and City_ID are the unique identifiers for each place as taken from the original OS gazetteer database (the SEQ field). I doubt if they have any meaning outside of this database.
I've also spotted an error - the OS have marked the St Davids in Scotland (nothing but a small village) as a city. This error was carried through into my processing, so some of the towns, e.g. Perth and Pitlochry, are marked as being closest to St Davids. I will fix this error (instead marking the small Welsh village of the same name as a city) and reprocess. I probably won't get chance to do this until the weekend though. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 19:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

I've reprocessed all of the data, which you can download here [4]. I've cleaned up all the errors that I found, and now all places are listed with their nearest town and city, as well as distances from London, Cardiff and Edinburgh. Hopefully the field names will be self-explanatory, but let me know if not. Cheers, Bazonka (talk) 12:12, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Jennie[edit]

Hi Llywelyn, I wonder could you add anything here: [5]? Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Dim syniad! No idea, sorry. I've checked out y Casglwr and Geiriadur yr Academi, with no avail. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 07:05, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Gavin / Gwalchgwn[edit]

I wonder if you could help with a question posed to me on the German Wikipedia. The article Gavin mentiones that the name stems from the Welsh Gwalchgwn but gives no source. The statement has never been challenged since an IP converted the article from a redirect back in 2007. That information now has spread around the internet in various languages due to the zillion mirrorsites that exist. Do you know of a realiable source for that information, or maybe know someone who could find out? My friends in Pembrokeshire are not really a help due to the "little England" issue. Agathoclea (talk) 09:09, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

PS: was this edit intentional? It does not match the rest and had to be just the subject I was interested in. Agathoclea (talk) 09:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Diolch. I've no idea abpout Gavin. I'll try and find out for you. I've also reverted back to the OG lineage, just in case you or other can use it. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:43, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, will have to look elsewhere for an answer on the that one. Is there an "help desk" on cyWiki? Anyway I did not mean the template but the link to the mountains which was just giving a edit link to your userpage. Agathoclea (talk) 10:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Well spotted. Changed the link. Yes, post the question in Welsh in our Caffi; Use "Ychwanegu Adran" to begin. Diolch! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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Cardiff Meetup[edit]

Hi Llywelyn, really good to meet you yesterday. What an interesting day, and perhaps the beginning of something too. Kudos to you for making the effort to travel all that way – above and beyond the call, I'd say. Hope you got home OK. Tan tro nesaf Daicaregos (talk) 19:42, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Nha Trang[edit]

Hi. No problem, got it fixed. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 13:53, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Tudors of Penmynydd[edit]

Llywelyn, you largely wrote this article, so perhaps you can help. In this diff you added that the Tudors became the Griffiths family of Penrhyn; the latter term directs to a disambig page, and it's not clear at all which term it refers to. I suspected Penrhyndeudraeth at first, but it appears that that village is much newer than i had imagined, at least under that name. Can you offer any insight into where "Penrhyn" should go? Diolch. Cheers, LindsayHello 07:58, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia is not an advertising platform[edit]

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Re:Archbishop of Canterbury image[edit]

I disagree that the image is derogatory; that is very strong word! It was uploaded with good intentions, not to make Williams appear "grumpy" (and he doesn't appear to be frowning), but oh well, I have no issue with it being reverted, it'll be replaced next month anyway! --Peter Talk to me 12:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

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Tŷ-gwyn railway station[edit]

Hi, why did you move Tygwyn railway station to Tŷ-gwyn railway station? --Redrose64 (talk) 12:40, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Interlanguage links[edit]

Hi, re this edit; unfortunately the only Wikipedia that understands Welsh is Wicipedia Cymraeg, so links like [[fr:Defnyddiwr:Llywelyn2000]] won't work as intended - compare fr:Defnyddiwr:Llywelyn2000 with fr:Utilisateur:Llywelyn2000. If you don't want to work out what Defnyddiwr is in various languages, you can use English, e.g. fr:User:Llywelyn2000. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:35, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

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CSV Loader[edit]

Hi Lllwelyn, I noticed your Welsh wiki-related bot requests. Some of those requests can be accomplished by using CSV Loader plugin for AutoWikiBrowser. I can help you if you have any questions with using it. For example, the redirects can be created using a CSV file that has two columns, the Latin and Welsh names. Ganeshk (talk) 14:31, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

AWB tries to connect to English Wikipedia on startup. You will need to switch to Welsh wiki by visiting the following menu option, Options - Preferences - Site tab - Language - cy. I was able to make a test edit on CY. Ganeshk (talk) 11:56, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
You have made great progress. You can open the CSV file in a Text editor (Notepad) and do a find and replace for double spaces and replace them with a single space. Make sure to save the file in the UTF-8 format to retain the latin characters. Ganeshk (talk) 22:49, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
One more thing, it is much easier to run the CSVLoader on a bot account. Create a new account like LlywelynBot (with bot rights) and use the bot tab on the main window to auto save the articles. This will save you from clicking the button few hundred times. Ganeshk (talk) 00:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Rydych yn croesawu. :) Ganeshk (talk) 13:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Did you notice that someone responded to your Infobox request on WP:BOTREQ? Ganeshk (talk) 23:29, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Infobox transfer[edit]

Hi Llywelyn, Hopefully User:Mabdul will help you out on this. In case it does not work out, here is how you can transfer the infobox data:

  • Extract data from infoboxes from English Wikipedia into CSV file
  • Use CSVLoader to read data from the CSV file and create infoboxes on Welsh Wikipedia using Prepend option.

Use the following steps for extracting data from the English Wikipedia infoboxes:

  1. Create a folder C:\Projects
  2. Load the list of articles into Make list box (using either category search or text file upload) on the AWB main window.
  3. Use the Tools menu - Make module and copy the C# code below into the box. Click Enabled checkbox and hit the Make module button to compile the code. You will have to expand the code to include all the values you need to extract from the Infobox. I have started the code with three columns (country, latitude and longitude).
  4. Click the start button. AWB will traverse through the article list and create the extract in C:\Projects\Infodata.txt. The delimiter will be ~.

Let me know if you have any questions. Ganeshk (talk) 02:52, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ganesh. Thanks for your time. However when I try hit the make module button I receive this Compilation Error: "Line 32, col 8 expected".
I'm still in cy; and can't change to en as I'm not approved on en.
Any suggestion please? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Please make sure the language set to C# (CSharp). That may be the problem. Also, make sure you overwrite all the existing text in the box with the above. You will need to get AWB approval on En to be able to extract data. Ganeshk (talk) 13:23, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
You don't need bot approval here on En. You just need AWB access for your account, Llywelyn2000. Add your name to the users section on this page, Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. Ganeshk (talk) 00:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
When I try to save the module, I get a Compilation Message: CS1704 'An assmbley with the same simple name 'CSVLoader ... has already been imported.' BOT-Twm Crys (talk) 11:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Aha! Found it! I copied the Module from the main window, not the Edit!!! There is hidden info in that part! Let me try it out!!! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:31, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Still no luck; in fact it now doesn't save the Module! - Here's the code:

Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 12:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Is this how it looked? It should say Module compiled and loaded in green. I found no errors in your code. There is no concept of saving. Save your code to a text file and load the module every time you start AWB. Ganeshk (talk) 13:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
AWB makemodule 20121122.JPG

I've tried it without the "<source lang="c">" and endof .... and it worked! Such is life! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:54, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Section break 1[edit]

That seems to work. This is what's been generated in my Project's file: does this look right? -
Aspley Heath~England~ ~~52.0057~-0.6436~Aspley Heath~|unitary_england= [[Central Bedfordshire]]~~~[[Central Bedfordshire]]~[[Bedfordshire]]|region= East of England~East of England~|post_town= MILTON KEYNES~MILTON KEYNES~MK17~|os_grid_reference= SP926353~SP926353 Astwick~England~ ~~52.0319~-0.2320~Astwick~|unitary_england= [[Central Bedfordshire]]~~~[[Central Bedfordshire]]~[[Bedfordshire]]~East of England~|post_town= HITCHIN~HITCHIN~SG5~|os_grid_reference= TL215385~TL215385 Barton-le-Clay~England~[[File:Barton-le-Clay village sign 2.JPG~<small>The village sign<br>Barton-le-Clay, Bedfordshire </small>~51.9669~-0.4241~Barton-le-Clay~5,000~(2002 est.)~Barton-le-Clay~[[Central Bedfordshire]]~[[Bedfordshire]]~East of England~[[Mid Bedfordshire (UK Parliament constituency)|Mid Bedfordshire]]~[[Bedford]]~MK45 ~01582~TL082310 Barton-Le-Clay Airfield~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To think out loud (or answer my own question!): No it's not right; it includes fields such as "|post_town=". What causes this? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:37, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
There was a | (pipe) symbol missing after the \r\n on some of the lines. Use the following code. I have added Skip=true to avoid having to click the Skip button for each article. HTH. Ganeshk (talk) 02:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

The eye of a hawk! Many thanks. It worked: I have now a text file of all villages in Bedfordshire. I hate asking this but what now? Most villages in Bedfordshire do not have a Wewlsh article; should I create these first or do both together? I think I'll have a bash at doing both together. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

This is what was generated in the Infodata file:

Clipstone, Bedfordshire~England~ ~ ~51.927 ~-0.623~Clipstone~~ ~Eggington~Central Bedfordshire~Bedfordshire~East of England~[[South West Bedfordshire (UK Parliament constituency)~LEIGHTON BUZZARD~LU7~01525~SP946742 My column header is: ~ArticleTitle~,~country~,~static_image~,~static_image_caption~,~latitude~,~longitude~,~official_name

       ~,~population~,~population_ref~,~civil_parish~,~unitary_england~,~lieutenancy_england~,~region~,~constituency_westminster~,~post_town~,~postcode_district~,~dial_code~,~os_grid_reference~

Am I right? Alas, I'm getting an error: "Please make sure the column header matches the number of columns..." I think I'm a few tildes short in the Infodata file; maybe Skip = false doesn't note down a tilde, or am I wrong? Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Title (~) is the delimiter in this case. Your column header should look like this:
##ArticleTitle##~##country##~##static_image##~##static_image_caption##~##latitude##~##longitude##~##official_name##~##population##~##population_ref##~##civil_parish##~##unitary_england##~##lieutenancy_england##~##region##~##constituency_westminster##~##post_town##~##postcode_district##~##dial_code##~##os_grid_reference##
The ## before and after the field name are needed to make the fields distinct from any other occurrences of the word in the article (since the CSVLoader does a find and replace operation). A ~ delimited file can also be referred to as a CSV file. Ganeshk (talk) 15:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
I suggest creating articles first using "Skip if it exists" option. You have already have the basic fields to build a stub article. Once you complete this step, go ahead with updating existing articles and add Infobox using the Prepend option on CSVLoader. Here is an example, User:Ganeshbot/Animalia/Trochidae_genera of a article stub template. Ganeshk (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


Still getting the error: "Please make sure the column header matches the number of columns..."
I note that the first 3 strings are different to the rest: r\n\| rather than r\n| . Would this be the problem?
Not quite as easy as I thought it would be, but lets plod on! Thanks Ganesh! BOT-Twm Crys (talk) 18:11, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
OK. Done the pages, I'll attack the Infobox tomorrow. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 21:02, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Too late now, but you should have added the infobox on those new articles. Ganeshk (talk) 23:31, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes I should, but couldn't - tried all day! I kept getting the error message (see my last waffle)! Today's another day! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:10, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Section break 2[edit]

Another error: when the imported Infobox (from en) was saved into the Infodata text file, it cut off any text which followed the pipe (|). Why did this happen? The first 4 articles didn't show any such errors, and looked fine. So I did the next with bot; that's when the error crept in. BOT-Twm Crys (talk) 07:38, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I can't figure this one out! See above: when the imported Infobox (from en) was saved into the Infodata text file, it cut off any text which followed the pipe (|). Any text following the pipe was omitted in the txt file. Any ideas? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:41, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Try this. I have moved the pipe character check to the front for fields that have links on them. It is not fool proof though. Now you know why Wikidata is being developed. Once you done creating the file, search for pipe (|) characters, if you find any, that would mean there are still some bugs in the code. Ganeshk (talk) 04:40, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
public string ProcessArticle(string ArticleText, string ArticleTitle, int wikiNamespace, out string Summary, out bool Skip) {
          Skip = true;
          Summary = "";
 
          String country="~";      
          Match m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*country\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) country = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String static_image="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*static_image\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) static_image = m.Result("~$1"); 
 
          String static_image_caption="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*static_image_caption\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) static_image_caption = m.Result("~$1"); 
 
          String latitude="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*latitude\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) latitude = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String longitude="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*longitude\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) longitude = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String official_name="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*official_name\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) official_name = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String population="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*population\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) population = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String population_ref="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*population_ref\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) population_ref = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String civil_parish="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*civil_parish\s*=\s*([^\r\n]+)");
           if (m.Success) civil_parish = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String unitary_england="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*unitary_england\s*=\s*([^\r\n]+)");
          if (m.Success) unitary_england = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String lieutenancy_england="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*lieutenancy_england\s*=\s*([^\r\n]+)");
          if (m.Success) lieutenancy_england = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String region="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*region\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) region = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String constituency_westminster="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*constituency_westminster\s*=\s*([^\r\n]+)");
          if (m.Success) constituency_westminster = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String post_town="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*post_town\s*=\s*([^\r\n]+)");
          if (m.Success) post_town = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String postcode_district="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*postcode_district\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) postcode_district = m.Result("~$1");
 
          String dial_code="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*dial_code\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) dial_code= m.Result("~$1");
 
          String os_grid_reference="~";      
          m  = Regex.Match(ArticleText, @"\s*\|\s*os_grid_reference\s*=\s*([^\r\n\|]+)");
          if (m.Success) os_grid_reference = m.Result("~$1");
 
 
          System.IO.StreamWriter sw = System.IO.File.AppendText("C:/Projects/Infodata.txt");
          sw.WriteLine(ArticleTitle + country + static_image + static_image_caption + latitude + longitude + official_name 
          + population + population_ref + civil_parish + unitary_england + lieutenancy_england + region + constituency_westminster
          + post_town + postcode_district + dial_code + os_grid_reference);
          sw.Close();
          return ArticleText;        
          }


Many thanks. The Infodata text file, however, shows me that the above code still has a bug. Here's one village: Almeley~England~[[Image:Almeley01.jpg~Almeley village sign~52.15769~-2.97674~Almeley~521~(1971)~~~~West Midlands~Hereford~| postcode_district = HR3 6xx~HR3 6xx~ ~SO334516 Ashperton~England~ ~~52.07~-02.52~Ashperton~ ~~~~~West Midlands~|post_town= ~|postcode_district = ~ ~~SO6441

Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Post the code and the problem at WT:AWB and ask for help. I am sure someone with more experience with Regex will help you. Ganeshk (talk) 12:22, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Ganesh. I did that here, but I'm none the wiser! Maybe I should wait a couple of days. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:36, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Gaeleg names[edit]

Hi Llywelyn, I noticed the messages that you left for Mabdul. Here is how you can do the Gaeleg replacements on the town articles. You can make use of the Find and relace feature on CSVLoader. Follow the walkthrough here, User:Ganeshk/CSVLoader/Find and replace. In this case, if you go with,

##X##,##Y##

for column headers, Find string will be:

[[Gaeleg]]: '''?'''

, Replace string will be :

[[Gaeleg]]: '''##Y##'''

Make sure to uncheck the Skip check box on CSVLoader window. Skip on the main window should say "Skip if not exists". Let me know if you have any questions. Ganeshk (talk) 22:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

There's a glitch somewhere: I think it's not recognising the columns. What comes out is ##X##,##Y##. The other anomaly here is that when I try to load the UTF-8 formated text file, I have an error message: Please make sure the column header matches the number of columns on the file. Yet, the two column Excel file was saved as text, without changing column numbers etc! Many thanks. BOT-Twm Crys (talk) 01:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Can you post your AWB settings file in a separate page? Also, the first lines of your CSV file. Ganeshk (talk) 02:52, 17 December 2012 (UTC)


  • AWB settings file: where is it? How do I post it?
  • First line copied / pasted from UTF-8 txt file:
Aberchirder     Obar Chiardair
Aberdeen        Obar Dheathain
Aberdeenshire   Siorrachd Obar Dheathain
Aboyne  Abèidh
Alford  Athfort
Badenyon        Bad an Eòin
Ballater        Bealadair
Balmedie        Baile Mheadhain
Banchory        Beannchar
Banff   Banbh

Llywelyn2000 (talk) 07:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks like you are using a tab as a delimiter. Please change it to comma or tilde (~) and that will help. Make sure to use the correct delimiter on the CSVLoader window. Ganeshk (talk) 13:28, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your patience! Yes, that was the problem. However, even though I'm now importing a comma seperated file, I can't replace the ?. The Normal Settings > Replace File window keeps changing the ##Y## bit to something different e.g. ##Gaellic villag ename##. Any thoughts? BOT-Twm Crys (talk) 08:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
That is a normal occurrence. CSVLoader replaces the F&R settings for each article and you would see the last replacement done at the end of the bot run. You will need to save the settings in a settings file (File - Save settings) before you click the Save button to start a bot run. That will allow to use reuse the replacements for the next bot run. On the next bot run, use File - Open settings to restore all the settings including the Find and replacement settings. Hope that clarifies. Let me know if not. The coordinates for Scottish peaks can be inserted using Find and replace as well. I will post about when I get some time. Ganeshk (talk) 12:36, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Once you start the operation, CSVLoader stores the replacements in a seperate location. Don't worry about what shows up in the AWB file and replace. Just click Save and go the next article. Ganeshk (talk) 02:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Sounds easy, but it's not! I save the settings with the correct replacements. I close everything down; then reopen; I hit Default Settings, then I Open Settings, go to the Settings which I had avaed (with correct replacements). Yes - they're there, saved. However once I hit Start, the replacements are lost. No replacements done; nothing changed. BOT-Twm Crys (talk) 07:35, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Done! Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 19:08, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

That's great news. Let me know if you need any further help. Ganeshk (talk) 00:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Welsh-cy - Problem with copying Infoboxes[edit]

I have responded above, User_talk:Llywelyn2000#Section_break_2. Ganeshk (talk) 04:22, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

New code[edit]

Thanks for the reminder. I have posted some new code at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Section_break_1. Test it and let me know how it goes. Ganeshk (talk) 05:29, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Column header error[edit]

Save your AWB settings and post on a subpage here. Also, a screenshot of the CSVLoader box will help. Ganeshk (talk) 11:58, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Here it is: User:Llywelyn2000/AWB Infobox Settings - Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:32, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Found the problem. You had missed adding the article title (##town##) as the first column on the column headers. Ganeshk (talk) 04:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

##town##~##country##~##static_image##~##static_image_caption##~##latitude##~##longitude##~##official_name##~##population##~##population_ref##~##civil_parish##~##unitary_england##~##lieutenancy_england##~##region##~##constituency_westminster##~##post_town##~##postcode_district##~##dial_code##~##os_grid_reference##

One more thing, please make sure to disable the module (the extract code) before you run the CSVLoader (or simply exit AWB and get back in). Ganeshk (talk) 04:30, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
That's not the problem. Because the column header and number of columns didnt correspond, I deleted ##town## manually to see if they would ballanced. Tried the above header string; still no luck. Many thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:23, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Did you delete the infodata.txt and create a new file with the code that I posted? If no, then the file may have older incorrect data. Ganeshk (talk) 11:38, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes; cleaned it out twice: still no luck. Did it work for you? Do I have the correct List Separator (a circumflex)? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:30, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Works fine for me. See the following:

Here are my settings:

Field separator
~
Column headers
##ArticleTitle##~##country##~##static_image##~##static_image_caption##~##latitude##~##longitude##~##official_name##~##population##~##population_ref##~##civil_parish##~##unitary_england##~##lieutenancy_england##~##region##~##constituency_westminster##~##post_town##~##postcode_district##~##dial_code##~##os_grid_reference##
Article Text
{{Userspace draft|date=January 2013}}

{{Infobox UK place 
| ArticleTitle = ##ArticleTitle## 
| country = [[Lloegr]] 
| static_image = ##static_image## 
| static_image_caption = ##static_image_caption## 
| latitude = ##latitude## 
| longitude = ##longitude## 
| official_name = ##official_name## 
| population = ##population## 
| population_ref = ##population_ref## 
| civil_parish = ##civil_parish## 
| unitary_england = ##unitary_england##
| lieutenancy_england = ##lieutenancy_england## 
| region = ##region## 
| constituency_westminster = ##constituency_westminster## 
| post_town = ##post_town## 
| postcode_district = ##postcode_district## 
| dial_code = ##dial_code## 
| os_grid_reference = ##os_grid_reference## 
}} 

This is a test article for ##ArticleTitle##.
Data
User:Ganeshk/sandbox/Abbey Dore~England~~<small>The gardens at [[Abbey Dore Court]]</small>~51.970~-2.895~Abbey Dore~342~''(2001)''~Abbey Dore~[[Herefordshire]]~[[Herefordshire]]~West Midlands~[[Hereford and South Herefordshire (UK Parliament constituency)|Hereford and South Herefordshire]]~HEREFORD~HR2~01981~SD3830
User:Ganeshk/sandbox/Allensmore~England~~~52.021~-2.787~Allensmore~~~~[[Herefordshire]]~[[Herefordshire]]~West Midlands~[[Hereford and South Herefordshire (UK Parliament constituency)|Hereford & South Herefordshire]]~HEREFORD~HR2~01981~SO4635
User:Ganeshk/sandbox/Almeley~England~[[Image:Almeley01.jpg|240px]]~Almeley village sign~52.15769~-2.97674~Almeley~521~(1971)~~~~West Midlands~Hereford~~HR3 6xx~~SO334516

You will have to look figure out the issue on your side. Ganeshk (talk) 20:13, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks Ganesh!!! It works. I've done 200 villages in a few minutes! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Rydych yn Croeso. Glad it worked. Thanks for the barnstar. Ganeshk (talk) 22:10, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Column header error II[edit]

Hi Llywelyn, I have released a new version of the CSVLoader, 1.0.0.17 that will display the article name that has the column header issue. Please test and let me know if it resolved the problem. Ganeshk (talk) 03:06, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. You are welcome. :) Ganeshk (talk) 11:28, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks to your information I have now created my first article built around the Welsh Newspapers Online website, Arthur Linton (although I am gutted that someone had already built an article on his wonderful caddish manager Choppy Warburton). I have also uploaded a few more Staniforth images, and of note is that Swansea Univeristy have obtained funding to digitally capture all of Staniforth's World War I cartoons for the nation, so be on the lookout for that over the next year too. Cheers again, FruitMonkey (talk) 20:30, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Croeso! Thanks for the Abertawe link, which I will now follow up. I'll upload a few more Staniforth images in the next few days. It would be great to batch the whole lot, but that's not possible due to their format within a newspaper? PS If I arrange another Editathon in Cardiff, would you be interested (both languages)? PPS Dr William Price wasn't an archdruid; his only poem was his son Iesu Grist. Hwyl! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 03:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
I would be interested in an Editathon. I was put off the first due to my shocking ability with my mother tongue. Did you get much interest from the first one? FruitMonkey (talk) 23:25, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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KML data across wikis[edit]

Hi there! Since you brought up the possibility of sharing KML data across different projects a while back on Template talk:Attached KML, I thought you'd be interested in d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Place#KML link. This is a proposed property on Wikidata that would allow Wikidata items to store a link to a KML file on any wiki. That would mean that you would be able to link Welsh Wikipedia articles to English Wikipedia KML files, or vice versa. Obviously, it would be nice if we could keep the KML data itself on Wikidata. Eventually, if that is made possible, we would be able to use the saved URLs to import the KML data to Wikidata. Thought you might want to know what we were working on to help make your suggestion possible! —Scott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:48, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Two columns / Find and Replace on AWB[edit]

Hi Llywelyn, If it is just a handful of replacements, why can't you just type them in the Find and Replacements box (Normal settings)? Ganeshk (talk) 02:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Understood. Here is what you do:
  1. Start AWB and add a normal replacement line, {{Flag|Argentina}} with {{Flag|Yr Ariannin}}.
  2. File - Save settings and save it to file.
  3. Open the CSV file in Excel or OpenOffice Calc.
  4. Create a new formula column that creates a concatenated string like this: <Replacement><Find>{{Flag|Argentina}}</Find><Replace>{{Flag|Yr Ariannin}}</Replace><Comment /><IsRegex>false</IsRegex><Enabled>true</Enabled><Minor>false</Minor><BeforeOrAfter>false</BeforeOrAfter><RegularExpressionOptions>IgnoreCase</RegularExpressionOptions></Replacement>. The country names in the formula in C1 will be adjacent cells, A1 and B1.
  5. Copy the formula across all rows.
  6. Save the content from this new column to text file.
  7. Copy paste the text file contents in the Replacement section of the settings file created in step 2.
  8. Open AWB and load the settings file.
  9. All the replacements should be loaded.
Let me know if you have any questions. Ganeshk (talk) 02:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I copied / pasted Argentina to other fields (as in Step 4), but they all remain as "Argentina / Ariannin" rather than change to different names. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 13:09, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

The formula must use cell references in place of Argentina/Arianin. Something like this:

In OpenCalc

=CONCATENATE("<Replacement><Find>{{";A1;"}}</Find><Replace>{{Flag|";B1;"}}</Replace><Comment /><IsRegex>false</IsRegex><Enabled>true</Enabled><Minor>false</Minor><BeforeOrAfter>false</BeforeOrAfter><RegularExpressionOptions>IgnoreCase</RegularExpressionOptions></Replacement>")

In Excel

=CONCATENATE("<Replacement><Find>{{",A1,"}}</Find><Replace>{{Flag|",B1,"}}</Replace><Comment /><IsRegex>false</IsRegex><Enabled>true</Enabled><Minor>false</Minor><BeforeOrAfter>false</BeforeOrAfter><RegularExpressionOptions>IgnoreCase</RegularExpressionOptions></Replacement>")

Ganeshk (talk) 14:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

You're a Welsh Wizzzard! Diolch. I can use this to multi-replace spelling mistakes. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:17, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I missed adding the </Replacement>. Just added it. Ganeshk (talk) 15:37, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Selecting a part of an article to input text[edit]

If you want insert a new sentence into the article, you will need to do a Find and Replace. Find something that is common to all articles, last few words of the previous sentence, and replace it with "the last few words" + "new sentence". Hope that makes sense. It is tricky though; make sure the sentence being replaced is unique and occurs only once in the article. Ganeshk (talk) 16:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

The sentence insert can be done in any paragraph, end of 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Please give me an example of what you are trying to do. Ganeshk (talk) 02:29, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
That is not trivial. I don't think AWB/CSVLoader have the functionality to insert a new line after the 2nd paragraph. Ganeshk (talk) 14:35, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Archive[edit]

May be you should archive this page? Ganeshk (talk) 02:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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Distances and Chester[edit]

Hi Llywelyn2000, sorry for the delay, but I missed the post that you put on my talk page about village distances from London and Cardiff. I'm having a few IT problems at the moment, so I can't work on it right now, but hopefully I'll be able to look at it soon.
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Great to see the news about Wikimedia UK - but the English version only wanted to tell me about Canadian photos - very interesting but didn't have all the good stuff about Wales managers etc that the Cymraeg page has. Congratulations on all that however.

ps. I couldn't quite understand what the species mapping needs were from your description. I will have another look at some point. In the meantime I have been chugging away at Scheduled Monuments in Wales pages, which keeps me pretty thoroughly occupied. As we discussed once before, a cy version would be great, but would be another major piece of work. RobinLeicester (talk) 09:10, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I hope Monmouth goes well. Alas, I shall be travelling back to Leicester after a week on Ynys Mon that day. Sorry I can't help. RobinLeicester (talk) 22:36, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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Living Paths![edit]

Great to see the project taking shape. Unfortunately I am too far away to be much use to you for hands-on stuff, but am happy for you to throw a few tasks in my direction if there is something I can help with. Do you have a definition of what counts as 'on the coast path' - ie how near should it be? RobinLeicester (talk) 23:11, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Your efforts are appreciated within even if not without.[edit]

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Keep up the good work Llywelyn. I myself have been caught by the photographic bug this month under the Wiki Loves Monuments competition, thanks to your tip-off, and have been rushing around the Vale, RCT, Caerphilly and Bridgend taking shots of the Listed I and II* buildings. Give us time and we will get the shots we need. Unfortunately my iPad has reacted badly to the recent weather and lots of shots are washed out, though I am pleased with one I got of St Mary Hill, though my car's suspension is shot and my nerves are trashed after driving through single-file country lanes for a month. FruitMonkey (talk) 19:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Careful...[edit]

Whatever reasoning may have been behind this edit (almost a year ago), it's quite out of order for you to call it "vandalism". The edit may have been justified on genetic (rather than language) grounds, and other editors of that article don't seem to have had a problem with it. I suggest you withdraw this slur, and be a bit more careful. WP:AGF, etc. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:21, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The same "reasoning" was used in his Wales / Argentina edit discussed here. Obviously not one-off. As far as 'vandalism' is concerned, the Welsh definition is very different to that refered to by you, and has been retracted. Thanks. If the Brettons and English are related, then he should have referenced that information. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't see the parallels between the two edits. There is a discussion over the meaning of the term "native" as applied to languages; there is another debate over the extent to which both Welsh and Bretons are genetically (rather than culturally) related to the English (that is, the descendants of the Brythonic-speaking inhabitants in England who later adopted the Anglo-Saxon language). That's how I interpreted it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:00, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I interprete it very differently, I can assure you! To follow your reasoning, Adam and Eve would also be listed! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 12:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
The "Related groups" parameter in the ethnic groups infobox is a problematic one, and has been much discussed. We could argue at length as to the differences between genetic and cultural criteria of ethnicity, not to mention the extent to which the differences between English and Welsh have been blurred by inward and outward migration over the centuries. But that's not for here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:17, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Breton People[edit]

If the Bretons are related to the Cornish, Manx, Scottish, Welsh, Irish they are most certainly related to the English. Brough87 (talk) 11:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Living Paths Wikiproject new user[edit]

Wel, helo! Naturally I approve of the project, but for a new user to expect not to be reverted just because they are learning is asking too much! I would suggest amendment of the template accordingly. Why not let them create the articles in user space first? Deb (talk) 12:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Deb. Thanks for the amendment. Wiki en is loosing editors very quickly and we in Wales need to counter this; hence the project. The main reason why so many give up is the en's over zelous use of revert, imho. Training is best done in the real world, and creating a new article gives the new editor faith that they have actually done so, rather than in user space. I did think about using the sandbox, but this is fake space. I'll put up the scheme of work (the Wiki-skills Walkthrough) in the next couple of days: the wording is practically written for them. However in Dolgellau the other day, one of the new editors, who has his own IT training business copied and pasted a few words about himself - from his own site - onto his own user space, and the whole IP address was banned / blocked, meaning that the course couldn't continue!!! The template mentioned is also used to track the course members, and maybe we could create a Userbox for this purpose. Thanks Deb, and please edit the Llwybrau Byw! Living Paths! main Portal here, as you see fit. 11:42, 28 Tachwedd 2013‎ Llywelyn2000.

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Re:Corsydd Llangloffan[edit]

At the time I deleted it, the article consisted only of a paragraph of text copy-pasted from elsewhere, so it met one of the speedy deletion criteria. My deletion had nothing to do with the title of the article. Does this answer your question? J Milburn (talk) 10:50, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes it does! Many thanks and have a great new year. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:53, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi from Yorkshire - still in exile. Here is the John Llewelyn article. He loved your articles on the munros/mynyddoedd (excuse my pidgeon Welsh?!) having explored many of them himself. Back in Swansea in a month or so. Almanacer (talk) 16:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Pidgeons always return home! Many thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 09:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I hope you do not mind that I have brushed it up a little bit. If you need anything in Polish, or from Poland, or you are in Warsaw and want to explore our capital, just let me know:) Cheers! Boston9 (talk) 10:03, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

20-20 Vision - un défi du Pays de Galles[edit]

Un grand merci pour l'ajout d'informations sur le Challange! Cependant, nous ne pouvons cocher si l'information a été ajoutée à partir d'aujourd'hui. Je suis vraiment désolé que ce n'était pas clair. J'ai maintenant ajouté une phrase ci-dessus la table. Texte minimum nécessaire: 2000 octets de texte. Merci - et, encore une fois - je m'excuse de ne pas faire clairement. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 12:39, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello Llywelyn, my bad, I didn't catch the challenge. By the way, very good idea and project, I hope you will have a lot of contributors. --Sisyph (talk) 14:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
No problem! Keep up the good work! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:00, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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Can you help me rate this contribution in on the participants page? Not sure if I have 13 points and in English Wikipedia I do not manage well. Thank you. Rauletemunoz (talk) 17:58, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello again. Sorry to be so heavy :/ w:es:Cantera Penrhyn 3 points <-- This is correct? Should be 5 points?
And... Can you extend this information?
Sorry and thank you :) Rauletemunoz (talk) 21:07, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
You're correct; my fault; any others - let me know! Many thanks for the great work - an inspiration for others! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello friend! regarding this request you can take any item from here. The one you like. It is a pleasure and excuse my poor english Rauletemunoz (talk) 08:24, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello Llywelyn. Do you can check me this text in English and translate the text to create my page in Welsh? THX! Rauletemunoz (talk) 16:09, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Ere it is my good friend!

Shw mae?

Dw i o Gatalan a ches fy ngeni ym Marselona a w i bellach yn byw ym Madrid; dydw i ddim yn hoff o wleidyddiaeth na chwaraeon xD. Dw i'n gwneud pob math o olygiadau ar y wici Sbaenaidd: creu erthyglau, cyfieithu neu ehangu a gwella erthyglau a hyd yn oed y gwaith tŷ o drin y manion. Mae gen i gynllun fentora hefyd lle ceisiaf gynorthywo defnyddwyr newydd. Fy hoff ddiddordebau ydy cysgu, yfed cwrw, pensaerniaeth a seryddiaeth.

Mae gen i filoedd o ddilynwyr ar rwydweithiau cymdeithasol, ond does neb yn rhoi cyflog i mi am hynny ac felly mae'n rhaid i mi weithio yn fy ngwaith pob dydd (a dw i'n hynod o ddiog!) :/

Felly gan nad ydw i'n dymuno gweithio chwaneg (ddywedais i mod i'n ddiog dudwch?) gwnewch ddolen i fy nhudalen defnyddiwr Sbaeneg - a chewch wneud popeth arall sydd angen ei wneud!

Henffych!

Llywelyn2000 (talk) 19:22, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I would help more but I dare not. Thank you very much to you for this great initiative. Rauletemunoz (talk) 21:35, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Czech Wikipedia[edit]

I replied to you in my discussion on the Czech Wikipedia. Please check it. --Marek Koudelka (talk) 12:50, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Sami flag[edit]

This is the Sami flag. rgds, --Apple farmer (talk) 11:16, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! The flag flies high in celebration of life! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 21:44, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: 20-20 Wizja Walii[edit]

[6] Hi, I've contacted the user who usually coordinates similar events on pl.wiki (pl:User:Marycha80). Hopefully, she'll be able to find more participants. Delta 51 (talk) 11:58, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Italian article linked under sami wiki??[edit]

You made an edit here that I suppose went slightly wrong, was that an attempt to list no:Den svarte boken fra Carmarthen? Cheers, Finn Rindahl (talk) 10:38, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Well spotted! The eye of an eagle! Diolch! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Wales 20-20 Challenge German Pages[edit]

Hello Llywelyn2000 I left you a message on your Welsh userpage. Thanks --Drgkl (talk) 15:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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