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Rebel infighting[edit]

I have taken the liberty and totally reconstructed that article about the IF-FSA conflict into the current Opposition-ISIL conflict. Syrian opposition–Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant conflict EkoGraf (talk) 16:59, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Iraq War Map[edit]

Hello, you helped me out a bit with getting the template map of Iraq war going similar to that of Syrian Civil War map. Well I started it and for some reason the latitudes/longitudes are not cooperating with me at all! I don't know if I'm doing the coding wrong or what?! I am very new at this, and it seems like I am doing it incorrectly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Iraq_war_detailed_map That is what I have so far (please don't laugh) Any advice/help will be greatly appreciated! Malik Danno (talk) 08:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Shlama! I figured out what the issue was; the "closing" code for the template was missing, and there was some "junk" coding left over from cutting-and-pasting. A quick and easy fix, so editing should go smoothly from here on out. Let me know if you run into any more problems, and I'll be glad to help if I can! ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 22:49, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014[edit]

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Talkback[edit]

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Hello, Lothar von Richthofen. You have new messages at Vianello's talk page.
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- Vianello (Talk) 11:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Ahoy there. A quick question is up on my talk page, regarding clearing up what may just be poor comprehension on my part. Response would be appreciated if you see fit, disregard is acceptable if you don't. - Vianello (Talk) 23:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Responding in a similar structure is more a personal idiosyncrasy than intentional mockery, and the criticisms I listed were directed mostly in the direction of the other party in the dispute, whose conduct throughout has irritated me substantially more. My apologies. I think you acted hastily, but I can kind of understand why you pulled the trigger so quickly given T13's stature. Moreover, I really do commend you for making things right as promptly as you did—no sarcasm was intended there whatsoever. The ability to own up to a poor call is where things like competence and clue shine through the most, I think. But as I've told Mr. Stradivarius below, I've little desire to prolong this circus further as I don't see any potential for resolution, and so will make no further comment after this unless I feel it absolutely necessary. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I apologize for misunderstanding you, then! I was just being paranoid/overly sensitive. I'll demand no further comment from you, and I appreciate your polite clarification. Anyway, thanks for bringing your concerns to me. In the end, I'd rather have my mistakes caught so I can fix them than just slide past. Please keep up the good work. - Vianello (Talk) 20:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Syrian civil war detailed map[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Syrian civil war detailed map has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:21, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Your comment at Technical 13's talk page[edit]

Hello Lothar. While there is no problem with you discussing Technical 13's handling of edit requests on his talk page with him, this comment is going too far. You must be aware of WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA, and that comment falls foul of both of them. You've also put Technical 13 on the defensive, which makes it much less likely that he will listen to what you are saying. It would be much better for all concerned if you could focus on constructive criticism rather than personalising your comments as you did in the diff I linked. Best — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 04:51, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

T13 was "on the defensive" from the moment I called him out on his behaviour, judging by his WP:IDHT response to my initial post. Had he displayed the least bit of self-reflection or repentance (as Vianello admirably did after I raised the matter with him), I would not have felt at all moved to respond in the admittedly abrasive fashion that I did. But at this point, it's clear to me that he's not going to take a look in the proverbial mirror anytime soon, so I'm not going to bother thrashing this particular horse carcass any further. Individuals like T13 are a big part of the reason why I've drastically cut back my activity on this site in recent months, and given how this incident has played out, that is a trend that I will continue. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 23:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVI, March 2014[edit]

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Syria map formatting[edit]

Hi, that is an interesting display from your navigator.
Which one are you using ? (I forget what you said about that before.)
It looks like a configuration problem, as nothing is supposed to be displayed when label_size=0, and otherwise not having a link should simply display the label.
The problem with making links of labels is that to have a valid links, we go from

{{invoke:Location_map|mark|Syria |lat=39.999|long=39.999 |mark=someicon|marksize=5 |link=somepage#sometown |label=sometext |label_size=90 |position=right}}
-to-
{{invoke:Location_map|mark|Syria |lat=39.999|long=39.999 |mark=someicon|marksize=5 |link=somepage#sometown |label=[[somepage#sometown|sometext]] |label_size=90 |position=right}}

and almost no editor does it right. (Excepting yourself of course.)
Even the link= is generally invalid.
As well, usually it is counter-indicated to make the label a link, since that often interferes with some icon, making using the map problematic. It is much cleaner to generally have only the icons clickable and not the labels. Usually no point in having 2 clickable items for a town.

So maybe there should be restrictions on who can edit the map ?
Particularly for adding new towns ?
I'm been thinking recently that maybe we should add a guide to the format in the edit page heading of the map, to encourage more valid formatting.

Besides the format, most towns recently added have no significance in the civil war, and there is no reference posted somewhere to link to. The map is fast becoming a sort of green dot / red dot board game.

Getting back to your navigator, maybe the configuration can be adjusted to avoid the display problems. It shouldn't be displaying the text overwriting like that.
It seems that it is only labels with label_size > 0 ?
It could be that WP is sending some extraneous character(s) that are ignored by other browsers (Mozilla Seamonkey and Midori on Linux at least).
So if you give me info on what browser you are using, and the environment (Linux/Mac/MSW), that would help track the problem. Looking at your screen image, that seems to be mostly (but not entirely) labels I made visible without turning them into links, maybe a week or 2 ago.
All probably contained white space or similar (" ", " ", "-", etc), although I don't know if that was a factor.
From my side, I'll compare the code that WP returns.
As well, rest assured, until we find a solution to the problem, I won't be removing links from labels. That does mean, however, that there are a lot more links to be fixed, since it is not only the link=... (mostly broken), but also the corresponding label=[[...|...]]
regards :) André437 (talk) 17:44, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

The problem shows up whether I'm in Chrome, Safari, or Firefox; I'm on a Mac. The combination of no brackets and a "0" label size produces the worst results, but even the properly-formed non-clickable labels show up as a conspicuously different colour. That's mostly an aesthetic annoyance, but I'm of the mind that the map needs fewer needless irregularities as it is. I also don't think white space or special characters have anything to do with it.
I dislike labels in general. They're clumsy, unsightly, and make the map more difficult to navigate properly. In the past, only important locations were given visible labels. But recently, I noticed that a number of random government-held towns had been given labels despite the fact that they were in crowded areas and, moreover, totally irrelevant. In fact, I think there were around twice as many SAA-labels as all rebel, ISIS, and Kurdish ones combined—a clear and intentional imbalance. So, I went and removed the useless label-pollution. But one of the more belligerent among the resident POV-pushers was outraged that I would dare tamper with his beloved "red" icons, and insisted on revert-warring me back. To at least remedy the bias somewhat, I went and added a few labels to rebel, ISIS, and Kurdish areas. This was "permitted", but it's still a poor solution.
I would love to impose restrictions on the editing, to be honest. Unfortunately, that sort of thing isn't really allowed on this site beyond the system of page-protections. Currently, the map is semi-protected (no anonymous edits), but the next step up (full-protection) would entail blocking everyone except for Wikipedia administrators. More than anything, I think the map suffers from being used as a virtual battleground between partisans of various kinds—you're right to call it a "game". My solution so far has been to engage less with it, though a technical reminder wouldn't be a bad idea to at least keep it cleaner. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 04:51, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

The deadlinks to all ref's in haplogroup J and Haplogroup J-M172[edit]

FOUND IT... but maybe you can do the other part that needs to be done: SOLVE it. ;-) [1] Rebekah's the culprit. :-) She was adding the "phylogenetic footnotes" in a separate "reflist" and just as I suspected, that's when she broke it.

I tracked it down, but since I've got a "time waster" this morning (nonsense from Jingiby who's not even contributing info, a total know-nothing harassing me...please see Talk page and say what you think about corroborating migrations between Sumeria & Canaan as noted by Genesis11 and geneticists).

A few potential ways to solve it:

  • go back to normal ref tags:
    • will a simple "revert" work since so much info (and thus more tags) was added since she did that last January?? (NOTE that I already added about 5 using ^ref^ tags, just so you can see a model that a reflist which has no label CAN work, i.e. search for "reflist|group=" ...just a blank "group".
    • MANUALLY copy-paste thru the whole article (about 35 ref's to go...just in the M-172 article.
  • Fix her method which doesn't use ^ref^ tags (I've no clue how to fix that, except MAYBE that we need a "reflist|group" for those sources listed in the "Journals" section.72.183.52.92 (talk) 13:06, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Ah sorry, can't say I have much time for that myself. Never really understood the intricacies of these fancy refs too well anyway. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 04:21, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVII, April 2014[edit]

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WWII infobox[edit]

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World War One Map - Cobelligerents[edit]

Howdy, ive made a couple of proposals on what to do about co-belligerents for the world war one map, see here File_talk:WWI-re.png. I would note that co-belligerents are listed on the corresponding World War Two map, and would appreciate any input you have on my suggestions.XavierGreen (talk) 17:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVIII, May 2014[edit]

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Syriac Union Party (Lebanon)[edit]

The ideology of the party is conservative and very right wing and closely associated with the right-wing Lebanese Forces and Kataeb Phalange party. Ibrahim Murad the head of the party closely cooperates with the center-right coalition March 14 Alliance, particularly the Lebanese Forces and right-wing Christians. The party's Syrian counterpart Syriac Union Party (Syria) and contrary to general misgivings by Syriacs for more neutrality in the Syrian conflict and a moderate stance towards Assad has sided instead very clearly, vocally and in action, with Syria's anti-Assad forces, the extreme right wing Islamists, even advocating military involvement against the Assad regime. werldwayd (talk) 13:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

In response, I never said I don't like them. I am very neutral on this and thankfully now so far away from Lebanon as can be (Canada to be precise) so as not to be involved in the quagmire and never-ending bickering between the Lebanese. But for the party's right wing stances, all you have to do is check the official positions taken by the party, particularly under the leadership of Mr. Ibrahim Murad, its founder. I don't know about the "official ideology" as most party platforms in Lebanon are superfluous and engulfed with vague generalities. But the directions taken under the leadership of Mr. Murad are very much solidly pro-Lebanese Forces and Kataeb, and anti-Aoun, anti-Assad and anti-Hezbollah. Brief reference to a few materials on the party's website and declarations made by the party make things very clear. http://www.syriac-union.org/ But I leave it to you to do the research and come with a more vague reference to general ideology of the party which, frankly, more than being right wing or left wing, is rather activism in Syriac rights as full Lebanese citizens, rights which have been denied politically based on the numbers and actual demographic presence of Syriacs in Lebanon. By the way, I am Lebanese and well-versed in the intricate matters of Lebanese history and politics and wouldn't have put right wing / left wing arbitrarily. Right wing is not an insult and neither does it indicate extremism. Right wing / left wing are more Western concepts dubbing various Lebanese groupings, but local Lebanese groupings wouldn't label themselves as right wing or left wing and nor will their official platforms admit to ideologies to be able to cater to a more broad spectrum of adherents and will keep contact with all groups of left and right leanings. Particularly taking into consideration the rights of the Syriacs, which this group and other Syriac groups aspire to represent to gain, as they should, a foothold in Lebanese politics. werldwayd (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
By the way, I am surprised adherents of the party and they are quite a few and seemingly very active do not come and change what is mentioned about the party on Wikipedia. Rather edits are concentrated on this Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac divide more than anything else. Syriac Union Party is a party vying for wider visibility and had they objected, they would have come and edited the page long ago, albeit editing anonymously or through a non-involved user name. So we end up discussing semantics me and you, which is nice I admit, while the party is not objecting to what is said about its conservative / right wing stances at all. werldwayd (talk) 17:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your elaborate inputs. Since there is no clear proof whatsoever regarding the leanings of the Lebanese faction with its own "peculiarities" and "strategic orientation" (it might be just political maneuvering on their part to adapt to volatile situations they are facing in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq), I am all for a more obscure designation of say Syriac nationalism and representation of Syriac rights in Lebanon, because they are mainly aiming for political representation in the Lebanese Parliament with one or possibly two MPs of their own with the seats allocated to the Syriac Orthodox and Syriac Catholic constituents, as the sectarian division of the Lebanese Parliament stipulates, this on equal terms with say the Armenians, the Evangelicals, the druze, etc rather than the "minorities seat" they now have in Beirut 2 electoral district. werldwayd (talk) 21:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

LibDutch = ChronicalUsual Sockpuppet?[edit]

I think it is likely.
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LibDutch

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/XxReflectionxX

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/ChronicalUsual/Archive

IPinvestigates (talk) 22:07, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

New format for Template:Syrian Civil War detailed map[edit]

I mentioned this on its talk page, but it was buried under other topics without reply. Anyway, Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War is getting near its size limit again. I've come up with a solution that will reduce its size by 600kb, or 30% of the maximum. Template:Syrian Civil War detailed map will be converted to use Lua directly. [2] is what the new code will basically look like. This also significantly reduces the parse time of the pages. Does this seem okay to you, or are there issues with the new format? Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:48, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Vichy map[edit]

"Before september 1940" means "before september 1940". "By september 1940" means "before 1 october 1940". Cheers, walk victor falk talk 09:22, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCIX, June 2014[edit]

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Assistance with vandalism please on German military history data entry[edit]

I have been updating data and improving the overall content of Military production during World War II since June, with a particular focus on including more data about Germany, the Axis, historic context, German technical achievements and other information related to the German experience of the war. Today Bender235 deleted over 3 months and 300 hours of my work and that of others, 40,000 characters of edits, and hundreds of constructive additions to the page. I am in the midst of uploading an enormous amount of PRIMARY SOURCE DATA and he deleted everything done so far as "wikipedia can not be a source for itself". I am enraged. There was not one comment, warning, question, request, or suggestion from this "editor". Can you please help me reverse all the deletions and keep this guy off the page. There are ongoing constructive edits from several other individuals watching this site. Please help resolve this. These actions were not constructive and have reduced the quality of the material to a shadow of its last version before his vandalism. --Brukner (talk) 19:21, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue C, July 2014[edit]

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