User talk:LukeSurl

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I reserve the right to screw up any edits I make - If you think I've done something wrong, please Fix it. I really won't object to my edits being reverted, chances are I won't even notice. LukeSurl 13:11, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Request: Reconsideration of Tralian Article[edit]

Thank you LukeSurl for your review and input on the Draft:Tralian article. While I appreciate your review and reason for declining the article, I must disagree with you on the notability point regarding Tralian. As evidenced by the citations to the USPTO website, an independent secondary source, Tralian has made contributions to the musical and scientific arts with his design patent and his method patent. This advance to the musical arts was recognized by reputable, independent sources, as evidence by references 2, 3, and 4 of the article. Thus, the article meets at least one of the notability requirements from Wikipedia provided here: WP:MUS.
These citations put the Tralian article above many other articles regarding musicians in terms of reputable independent sources. The following articles are just an example of other musician articles that already enjoy a place on Wikipedia that have more questionable levels of notoriety (by Wikipedia standards) than the Tralian article:
8 Legged Monster
Gary M. Anderson
Robert "Kool" Bell
William Thornton Blue
Greg Howard (musician)
Richard McPartland
Thara Memory
Sal Mosca
Vido Musso
Tony Pastor (bandleader)
Teddy Powell
While I recognize that articles should be well sourced regardless of level of other articles, when dealing with the subject of a living person who continues to add to the musical landscape, I believe the Tralian article is worthy of a place on Wikipedia and I respectfully request that you withdraw your position on the article.


I am really grateful for your help
Best wishes
Aftab Banoori (Talk) 11:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Request: Suggestion/Feedback for Boys Republic (band)[edit]

I wasn't expecting such a prompt review. Thank you, LukeSurl, for approving Boys Republic (band) article. I've linked the article from other Wikipedia articles concerning Boys Republic:

2014 Idol Star Athletics Championships Dsign Music 2013 Idol Star Olympics Championships All The K-pop MTV World Stage Live in Malaysia List of Universal Music Group artists

Re-added the endorsement section with citations. Added an additional category and new information with citation.

I have a question. Is it okay if I re-add the "members" section (their basic individual profiles) with citation this time? The group members don't have articles on them. It would provide the article with more information like how they came together from different labels to form a group (with prior training and prior projects before their debut) or should I add that in the first paragraph? When you have time, can you look over the article again? Any advice on how to improve it is much appreciated. Thank you very much! BleedLikeMe306 (talk) 23:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! For the members, I see a lot of K-idol bands use tables (see Teen Top for example) giving some basic info (note: data such as weight, height and blood type are, even if you can find a reference, not really appropriate for a Wikipedia article). Alternatively you could write a line or two of text about each band member.
The best improvement you could make to the article right now would be to write some text (rather than just lists) about the band's history. Find a good existing article about a similar band and try to replicate their approach. Happy editing! --LukeSurl t c 13:31, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your time and advice. I'll revisit some similar articles and study them. Once I get everything in order, I'll add the history section with sub-sections: pre-debut, 2013, etc.BleedLikeMe306 (talk) 15:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

RE: Draft:Herreshoff 12½ (keelboat)[edit]

I apologize if this is not the correct place to provide details about copyright and the page - Draft:Herreshoff 12½ (keelboat) As the previous reviewer noted, the copyright issue is understood and a solution is in the works. The author of the quoted section is a colleague who is currently away from his office. He will return next week and promptly add a creative commons license to the material quoted. I anticipate it will be tagged as Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International. If this information needs to be attached to the page in some other manner, please advise. Many thanks for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttrbbr (talkcontribs) 17:03, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Miss Multiverse page deleted[edit]

Greetings Luke, you have a very nice wikipedia page and profile... congrats!!!

I have a frustrating issue here... I have created the page Miss Multiverse, it was deleted once before about a year ago, i don´t understand why if it has all the right references, no use of promotion, just facts, there are even winners of miss universe that have participated in Miss Multiverse whom have profiles on wikipedia... and its still deleted as if this beauty pageant does not exist.

There are many smaller beauty pageants listed on wikipedia, we are just not able to comprehend why this is happening, it almost feels as if enthusiasts or supporters of other pageants are deleting this one, it takes time to learn how to use wikipedia and frustrating to see someone just come and delete it.

I will appreciate your help enormously, if you would kindly take a look and figure out a solution.

Best regards,

Jose Cuello (talk) 14:15, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Rocky and the Natives[edit]

Hi Luke, I get the point about criteria 1 but doesn't my article meet criteria 6? I'd welcome your feedback. Sally of Kent (talk) 05:44, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

  • Your point seems valid. I have resubmitted the draft for a second opinion. I have attached a comment regarding WP:MUSIC#6. --LukeSurl t c 13:37, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Soccer isn’t international but association football is?[edit]

I do not know of a English-speaking single country where soccer is not used and understood. The reason soccer was there in the first place is because most people don’t know what association football is. But having both seems unnecessarily wordy. —Wiki Wikardo 13:11, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to my edit to Goal kick? Currently only "association football" is the lede there, so I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say it is "unnecessarily wordy".
Association football is well understood (I disagree with your "most people won't know" assumption), is the "proper" name for the sport, and is the title of our article about the sport. As per MOS:COMMONALITY, "Universally used terms are often preferable to less widely distributed terms". "Association football" is widely used in preference to "soccer" or the ambiguous "football" on Wikipedia. If you wish to change how Wikipedia refers to the sport, your best bet would be to can join the discussion at Talk:Association_football/Article_name. --LukeSurl t c 13:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Previously it read “association football (soccer).” I know it’s “proper,” but I do certainly assert that it is less widely understood than soccer, especially among non-sporting types, which is why that word was tacked on. I’m well aware that the article lives at association football but it seems like the name of an article isn’t the same as how it needs to be referred to in every other. For example, IIRC, airplane used to be titled fixed-wing aircraft or something like that—obviously it’s not necessary to employ a long, esoteric phrase to avoid favouring airplane or aeroplane in every article. Likewise, soccer is well-attested in all varieties of English, so, despite the fact that football may be more common, I don’t see the need for a less-immediately-clear disambiguation. —Wiki Wikardo 13:57, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Although if you maintain that association football is a phrase the general public would understand throughout the English-speaking world (try asking a non-football-watching Australian or American what it is), I guess we’re at an impasse. Hopefully, then, you wouldn’t object to me “fixing” your edit. ;)Wiki Wikardo 14:05, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Edits Added Please Review Again[edit]

Hello LukeSurl,

I have edited my submission to include more detail and direct legal analysis from noted first amendment / IP attorneys. I do believe direct quotes from ownership of the site are important in this instance because they establish the mindset and reasoning of the people making these decisions. I also believe the item is far from 'advertorial' at this point. It is establishing distinctions that differentiate one of the world's most often visited websites from others in the same exact category. It does not judge one as better or worse than the other, but does point out important specific differences.

Thanks for your time, - Stewart — Preceding unsigned comment added by StewartTongue (talkcontribs) 15:14, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Because of the advert-like nature of the wording when I initially reviewed the draft, I was able to do a quick review without having visited the PORN.COM site. For a more thorough review, which isn't just about the wording, it will be necessary for the reviewer to visit PORN.COM. I do not wish to do this, certainly not on my work computer from where I do most of my Wikipedia editing. Your draft is in the queue and will be reviewed in time by someone else. Thank you. --LukeSurl t c 15:35, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

AFD Notice[edit]

A draft submission that you had previously declined that was promoted to article space over the suggestions of AFC, Kash Gauni, is now up for deletion. As the commentary from AFC is used as a contributing reason for deletion, please feel free to look in and give your thoughts. Hasteur (talk) 15:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

15:42:28, 30 June 2014 review of submission by Mercury Transformations[edit]

My article was rejected I want to know how can I improve it? Dear Luke, can you please suggest me how to improve my article? Mercury Transformations (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC) Mercury Transformations (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)SariyaMercury Transformations (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Please see WP:Your first article. The draft you wrote looks like a directory entry. An article will need to be paragraphs of prose, supported by reliable sources that are independent from the subject. --LukeSurl t c 09:21, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Proposal re June BED[edit]

There is a proposal at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/June_2014_Backlog_Elimination_Drive#We_need_a_conclusion that merits your consideration Fiddle Faddle 16:46, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Translation of article[edit]

Hello LukeSurl, I would like to submit a translation of the french article on artist Jean Yves Lechevallier: and would like to use the sandbox, Please let me know how to do that without resubmitting the article right away, thank you--DDupard (talk) 11:23, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello DDupard. Go to your sandbox, click the "Start the User:DDupard/sandbox5 page" link and start writing the code. Once you are ready to submit, add the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page. Happy editing! --LukeSurl t c 12:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you LukeSurl, for your prompt answer..... However I do not see the Start the User: DDupard/ sandbox 5 Page link ; in the sandbox there is only one option : Resubmit. and my interpretation of that is not sandbox,...Euh sorry for not understanding--DDupard (talk) 13:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

@DDupard: Ah, I forgot that you'd already created a sandbox. You can continue to use that page. Edit as you see fit, saving the page regularly. Your submission will be resubmitted only when you click the "resubmit" button. Alternatively, create Draft:Jean-Yves Lechevallier by clicking that red link and then creating the new draft page. --LukeSurl t c 13:15, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello LukeSurl, Draft:Jean-Yves Lechevallier is now populated, however, I could not understand how to link the page to the Wikimedia-Commons corresponding category. I do not know if you care to review the page...., If you do, your comments would be welcome. And please let me know what the next step is. Thanks a lot.--DDupard (talk) 09:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi DDupard. The link to the commons category seems good to me. If you want to put your article in the review queue, please place the code {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. Personally I don't have the time to review it now, but it looks promising and another reviewer should be along in a few days! Cheers, --16:08, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

OK LukeSurl, Thank you--DDupard (talk) 18:43, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Mar Hall[edit]

Morning. I just wanted to ask, why did you remove sourced material from the above article. What you remobved was in the first available source.--Discolover18 (talk) 08:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I just checked again and the hotel cost £50,000 which according to the source is £2.5m in todays money. This was the part you removed.--Discolover18 (talk) 08:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread the source and didn't see that number, I read the first section, saw the £50,000 number without the conversion and assumed it was a calulation by an editor. Personally I would still prefer not to have that conversion for three reasons:
  • "Today's money" is somewhat moveable goal. What year does "today" refer to? Inflation is likely to continue indefinitely meaning that, in theory, that number would have to be regularly updated.
  • Calculating inflation over such a long period of time is very inexact, as the goods and services available then and now are not the same.
  • Checking the figure with one of these online calculators gave numbers significantly different from £2.5m.
Cheers, --LukeSurl t c 09:27, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your reply. You make very valid points. Tbh am very new to wiki. I just seen sourced info being taken out and I was wondering why. However your answer was quality and I never really took notice of any inflation, etc. Thanks again for your reply.--Discolover18 (talk) 09:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Article submitted by jds319[edit]

I've updated the references and made many other corrections. I would like to know which references failed your inspection. I was able to create a wiki link to an article with Dr. Kambin's name in it (Minimally invasive spinal surgery). However, in the article he is listed as Pawiz Kambin, his name is Parviz Kambin. How can I have this corrected. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

jds319Jds319 (talk) 18:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You![edit]

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The AFC Backlog Buster Barnstar

Congratulations, LukeSurl! You're receiving the The Tireless Contributor Barnstar because you reviewed 131 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive in June 2014! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! (tJosve05a (c) 23:42, 31 July 2014 (UTC)