User talk:MILH

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Greetings! I do a lot of vandalism patrol when I'm otherwise unoccupied, and this morning a kid from Jefferson County Public Schools (Wheat Ridge, Colorado, was targeting the Pinochet article with stuff like this [1]. I usually just hit "rollback" and block the offender after they've been warned a couple times. Welcome to Wikipedia, and happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 18:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Greetings again. I looked briefly at the changes at Pinochet. While it's a rather severe cut, it's a content dispute with another editor, so your best bet is to discuss it on the talk page and attempt to achieve consensus on restoring all or part of your version, or a rewritten version which satisfies the other editor(s). (My own knowledge of Pinochet and Chilean politics is amateur at best, so I don't know which is better.) You can revert changes by going to page history, clicking on the last version you think is acceptable, clicking "edit page", and saving -- but this is a bad idea in content disputes, because once "edit wars" start they are very hard to stop, and the community takes a dim view of them unless they involve clear vandalism. Make your case on the talk page and wait for someone else knowledgeable about the topic to chime in. Oh--another thing you can do is look through the article history to see who the main authors of the article were, and contact them for their opinions. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 15:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Legacy and Influence[edit]

Yeah, I just put them together because it looked neater and more worked on. I thought this because the Legacy was really short and not expanded much, but influences was, so I just combined them. It's perfectly fine split up though.

Yeah, like they say, learn something new every day. Glad you added that. Take it easy. willsy May 24 2006 10:04


Yes, it's one of those sentences that has been in the article for a while, but... I don't think anyone knows what to do with it because it's been in that section for so long, and there's no other place for it because the other headings are just so damned specific. No idea really, but I think the article could use another face lift. Not to brag, but you should have seen it before I gave it the look it has right now.

The article still needs a lot of work, glad you've taken interest in it, because I've really lost mine with some people with their bickering "this shouldn't be included", and "this shouldn't look like that". It's a lot better than it was, but God it could be a lot better and more professional.

Ever read Flann O'Brien's "The Third Policeman"? Just wondering, good book, got it yesterday.

willsy 10:37

Third Policeman, etc...[edit]

Yeah, the Third Policeman is good, weird, but really good.

I don't know about Pinochet, so I wouldn't be able to tell about cover up and real truth. If you tell me where to look, etc... I might be able to help you more. willsy May 25 2006 8:27

Saint George[edit]

[2] Please, no personal attacks. ☆ CieloEstrellado 19:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: "First and only warning"[edit]

I included the undisputed fact that Bachelet can speak some Russian and can read Cyrillic, and you are calling it vandalism.

I said it was an irrelevant fact for an encyclopedia article. And other editors seems to agree with me. ☆ CieloEstrellado 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

You are deliberately trying to smear my reputation because you do not like the undisputed facts that I am including in certain articles.

Can you please prove how I am "smearing your reputation"? ☆ CieloEstrellado 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I have also noted that you have been tampering with discussion entries of other editors.

Can you please provide proof of this? ☆ CieloEstrellado 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

If you continue with this libel, and if you continue to eliminate information that is accurate but which you do not care for, I will be forced to formally notify an administrator.

Actually I was thinking about contacting an administrator myself. Please go ahead. ☆ CieloEstrellado 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I have tried to solve these disputes in a civil manner. You have rejected my offer of civility, and instead have chosen an aggressive, libelous attitude.

How civil it is to not respond to my numerous requests to solve this in Talk? You only seem to care about reverting without discussing. ☆ CieloEstrellado 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Most seriously of all, you have eliminated objective, undisputed facts, apparentley because you do not like the political inference that can be drawn from said information.

I have no problem with your "undisputed facts" as long as you can provide unbiased sources of information to validate them. Wikipedia doesn't care about original research or personal opinions. ☆ CieloEstrellado 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Tree revert rule[edit]

Please be aware that there is a Wikipedia policy that blocks users who revert an article more than three times within 24 hours. I've noticed that you have violated this rule in the Alejandrina Cox incident article. Because you are a new user, I will not report this violation, but be aware that if you violate this rule again, I will report it. ☆ CieloEstrellado 15:39, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


Which is the problem if she can speak russian ? our president not even speak english :-)) Jor70 11:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Formal mediation has been requested[edit]

The Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Gonzalo Lira". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the request page, the formal mediation policy, and the guide to formal mediation, please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate. Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by 13 July 2014.

Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you.
Message delivered by MediationBot (talk) on behalf of the Mediation Committee. 01:45, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

As a note for the future, you need to leave polite messages (either custom or using the templates) on the IP's talk page, informing and warning about the 3RR limit. You should also create a talk page section and push the IP to edit there. I've left the warning, thank you for the talk page edit. If they do continue to revert as is, I'll file a report on WP:EWN and let them handle it from there. Ravensfire (talk) 16:45, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Something else - please try to avoid calling them a troll or describing their edits as vandalism. Although contrary to BLP policy, their edits are a good faith attempt to improve the article. The edits are not vandalism on Wikipedia and the editor should not be described as such. Please consider refactoring the post you left on the article talk page and avoid calling the IP such terms in the future. It does a lot to try to defuse a situation. As it is, the IP is using similar language back towards you. Ravensfire (talk) 16:49, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

WP:AN3 and Gonzalo Lira[edit]

MILH, here's some advice for the future. I didn't block you for edit warring in the Lira article because I found the IP's edit to be a straightforward WP:BLP violation. Therefore, your reversions were exempt. However, next time, mark your reverts as BLP violations so it's clear that's your motive. In addition, I would have taken the issue to WP:BLPN, not to WP:RFM. This is not a content dispute. Take care.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Good to know, thank you. MILH (talk) 19:58, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi MILH, thank you for taking the time to file a request for mediation. Unfortunately this isn't a suitable case for mediation. When an obvious violation happens, there are several steps you can take. As Bbb23 points out, above, it is a good idea to mark the violation in the edit summary when you revert. Another action (and here I'm repeating Ravensfire's comment) would be to place a warning on the individual's talk page. This helps other users to know that the individual is repeating a violation. Another action to take if the situation continues to be repeated might be to report the violation on the appropriate administrators' noticeboard. I note that the individual has now been blocked. All's well that ends well. Sunray (talk) 00:57, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Request for mediation rejected[edit]

The request for formal mediation concerning Gonzalo Lira, to which you were listed as a party, has been declined. To read an explanation by the Mediation Committee for the rejection of this request, see the mediation request page, which will be deleted by an administrator after a reasonable time. Please direct questions relating to this request to the Chairman of the Committee, or to the mailing list. For more information on forms of dispute resolution, other than formal mediation, that are available, see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.

For the Mediation Committee, Sunray (talk) 01:05, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
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