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Language or dialect[edit]
In 1920’s Grierson in his Linguist Survey of India classified Lahnda (Western Punjabi) as separate language from Eastern Punjabi on same basis as he did with Western and Eastern hindi[1] but to date local people has rejected through national census [2] of Pakistan separate identity from Standard Punjabi. Following table is showing the demographics by mother tongue of those districts of Pakistan which according to Grierson were Lahnda speaking areas. It can be seen from the table that only 29.68 % of these district’s population opted Lahnda’s dialects (Saraiki, Hindko and Potowari) as their mother tongue and remaining 70.32 % population opted Punjabi as their mother tongue [3]. Even 29.68 % is only because of Non Native people living in Punjab i.e. Baloch, Pashtun, Arabic, Kashmiris and Iranian ethnic settlers living in southern Punjab & DI khan and Hazara divisions of KPK province who failed to integrate in to local Greater Punjab culture and want to create some separate identity due to political agendas examples are regionalist political movement and Hazara Province Movement.
These fact strongly prove the claim of Local linguists that Lahnda and its dialects (Saraiki, Hindko and Pahari/Potowari) are not separate languages but dialects of Punjabi because these are mutually intangible, morphologically and syntactically similar with Standard Punjabi and are in fact dialects of Standard Punjabi agreed by majority of local linguists such as Dulai, K Narinder, Gill, Harjeet Singh Gill, A Henry. Gleason (Jr), Koul, N Omkar, Siya Madhu Bala, Afzal Ahmed Cheema, Aamir Malik, Amar Nath [4] [5] [6] [7] as well as modern linguistics publications such as US National advisory Committee based The UCLA Language Materials Project (LMP) along with modern linguistics such as Lambert M Surhone, Mariam T Tennoe, Susan F Henssonow, Cardona and Nataliia Ivanovna Tolstaia classifing Saraiki as a dialect of Punjabi.[8] [9] [10] [11] Today like all other dialects in Punjab, a process of unification and getting closer to Standard Pakistani Punjabi (Urdu influenced Majhi written in Shahmukhi), has bridged the gap further between eastern and western Punjabi.
| District | Population | % Opted Punjabi | % Opted Saraiki/Hindko/Pahari-Potwari |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vehari | 2,090,000 | 88.6 | 11.4 |
| Khanewal | 2,068,000 | 88.4 | 11.6 |
| Multan | 3,116,000 | 39.3 | 60.6 |
| Lodhran | 1,171,000 | 30.4 | 69.6 |
| Bahawal Nagar | 2,062,000 | 96.9 | 3.1 |
| Bahawalpur | 2,433,000 | 35.7 | 64.3 |
| Rahim yar khan | 3,141,000 | 37.4 | 62.6 |
| Mianwali | 1,056,000 | 88.0 | 12.0 |
| Khaushab | 950,712 | 92.2 | 7.8 |
| Sargodha | 2,666,000 | 99.99 | 0.01 |
| Bhakar | 1,051,000 | 27.0 | 73.0 |
| Okara | 2,233,000 | 99.99 | 0.01 |
| Sahiwal | 1,843,000 | 99.99 | 0.01 |
| Pakpattan | 1,287,000 | 99.2 | 0.8 |
| DG Khan | 1,643,000 | 19.7 | 80.3 |
| Rajanpur | 1,103,000 | 24.2 | 75.8 |
| Muzaffar Garh | 2,635,000 | 13.7 | 86.3 |
| Layyah | 1,122,000 | 37.7 | 62.3 |
| Chakwal | 1,083,000 | 99.8 | 0.2 |
| Rawalpindi | 3,363,000 | 95.0 | 5.0 |
| Jehlam | 936,957 | 99.0 | 1.0 |
| Attock | 1,274,935 | 98.0 | 2.0 |
| Hafizabad | 832,000 | 99.99 | 0.01 |
| Mandi Bahauddin | 1,161,000 | 99.99 | 0.01 |
| Chaniot | 965,000 | 99.2 | 0.8 |
| Toba Tek Singh | 905,580 | 99.99 | 0.01 |
| Jhang | 2,834,000 | 98.2 | 0.8 |
| Faisalabad | 5,429,547 | 99.5 | 0.5 |
| Abbottabad | 880,666 | 8.0 | 92.0 |
| Mansehra | 1,152,839 | 3.0 | 97.0 |
| Haripur | 692,228 | 8.0 | 92.0 |
| D I Khan | 852,995 | 9.0 | 91.0 |
| Tank | 238,216 | 3.0 | 97.0 |
| Total | 56,267,000 | 70.32 | 29.68 |
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- ^ Grierson 1920: Linguist Survey of India: New Delhi
- ^ http://www.census.gov.pk/publications.php
- ^ District Census Statistics: Statistics division of Pakistan: Islamabad
- ^ Dulai, Narinder K. 1989. A Pedagogical Grammar of Punjabi. Patiala: Indian Institute of Language Studies.
- ^ Gill, Harjeet Singh Gill and Henry A. Gleason, Jr: A Reference Grammar of Punjabi: Patiala University Press
- ^ Koul, Omkar N. and Madhu Bala :Punjabi Language and Linguistics: An Annotated Bibliography: New Delhi: Indian Institute of Language Studies
- ^ Malik, Amar Nath, Afzal Ahmed Cheema : 1995 : The Phonology and Morphology of Panjabi: New Delhi: Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers
- ^ http://books.google.fr/books?id=C9MPCd6mO6sC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
- ^ http://www.lmp.ucla.edu/Profile.aspx?LangID=95&menu=004
- ^ Lambert M Surhone, Mariam T Tennoe, Susan F Henssonow:2012:Punjabi Dialects:Beta script publishing:6134873527, 9786134873529
- ^ http://books.google.com.pk/books?id=BmA9AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false