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Finishing up Virginia[edit]

I have access to the Virginia Landmarks Register through my university library, so I can help with the finish-Virginia project. I've just created Hidden Valley Rockshelter; I'd appreciate it if you'd tag and rate it. Although I got the core of the article from the VLR, much of the material was actually online already; if you're interested in trying to Google for sources on the other sites, you might want to check the references I've used. Nyttend (talk) 00:33, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

That looks really good. One thing that frustrated me in particular about Hidden Valley was that I was able to find mentions of it (the dog burial thing notably) but no good descriptions of the actual site. (A similar thing happened with the Leesville Dam site -- there seem to be multiple archaeological sites in that area, but nothing that really described something identifiable specifically as the NR-listed site.) Magic♪piano 00:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Okay, makes sense; I've not even tried to look for online stuff about the others, and I wasn't clear if you had. I did have some big advantages with the dog burials: I wrote the Carlston Annis article, I have Claassen's Feasting with Shellfish, a critical work in the theory of Archaic shell middens, and I've visited many of the Green River shell mound groups that includes Carlston Annis. As a result, I've seen other literature on Archaic-period dog sites, and these sites quickly came to mind. Nyttend (talk) 01:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Henry Bousquet Three-Decker[edit]

Could you fix your citation, which has gone slightly awry? Choess (talk) 00:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

D'oh! Thanks for noticing. Magic♪piano 00:35, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Great! Thanks. Choess (talk) 01:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Daniel Shays[edit]

Bubble Tea.png Re: reverting my erroneous edits. Thanks for the catch! Safety Cap (talk) 13:13, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

South Arkansas NRHPs[edit]

Hey, thanks for all of your edits to the NRHPs in South Arkansas. I wanted to let you know I am in South Arkansas for a few days and will be trying to photograph as many of these sites as possible. It will take me a few days to get everything uploaded. Thanks for helping to get Arkansas's NRHP coverage up to par! Brandonrush Woo pig sooie! 12:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Good luck finding the crater! Magic♪piano 13:49, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Captain Robert Bennet Forbes House[edit]

I think this is an interesting home. Thank you for adding some details on its design. Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:54, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

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A Barnstar for you![edit]

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For your continuing high quality, tireless contributions, it is time for you to receive this award again. Good work! Donner60 (talk) 05:32, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I also am interested in history. Donner60 (talk) 05:32, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Paul Revere[edit]

fyi, you were mentioned at Social Dramas of Wikipedia, by Sara Marks. discussion at Wikipedia Weekly. [1]. cheers. 198.24.31.114 (talk) 19:53, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

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American Revolutionary War
Thank you for quality articles as a member of the American Revolutionary War task force, such as Battle of Quebec (1775), for guiding to magic composer articles, and for a a DYK I might call hintersinnig, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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A year ago, you were the 535th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Town Hall and Courthouse listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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What to do: Alaska Highway[edit]

Hello, on July 4 you added two banners to the talk page for Alaska Highway, requesting a new image. I have added the image and removed the image request banner. Should the other banner, {{WikiProject National Register of Historic Places}}, stay or go? Mandruss (talk) 03:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

No, that's just a project banner. Magic♪piano 13:56, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Call me stoopid (wouldn't be the first time), but is that a stay or a go? Mandruss (talk) 16:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
The project banner should stay. I added it because of the National Register listing. Magic♪piano 20:15, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Gotcha, thanks. Mandruss (talk) 22:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Watch Rock Camp[edit]

Hi - I'm not sure actually what the correct address of Watch Rock Camp in Holderness, NH is. Your article originally said US Route 113, which I changed to NH Route 113, but I overlooked the street address, which you recently corrected. The address might well have been 414 US Route 3 (Google Maps is not helping enough here). NH 113 runs along the northwest side of Squam Lake, and US 3 runs along the southwest side. Do you have any way of finding the geographic coordinates for the site? I tried looking the place up by reference number and by Grafton County on the NRIS but had no luck. --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

The US 3 address was given, IMHO incorrectly, in the weekly NR listing when this property was listed on the National Register; the feature page lists it as "Address Restricted". The source I used to stub the article says it is off NH 113 (US 113 was a fat-finger on my part, of course). The US 3 address (which I Googled when I noticed the discrepant addresses) is the address of the Squam Lakes Association, the organization that managed the NR nomination process, and is probably not the address of the camp, which is described in the source as still belonging to the family. I have been unable to locate further information about its whereabouts. Magic♪piano 14:41, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Oh, sure enough, I should have recognized the SLA address when I looked on Google Maps. Thanks for all your work! --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:01, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Utah NRHP count[edit]

You're right that no net change occurred, but the count in the table at National Register of Historic Places listings in Utah was wrong before. Add the numbers and you'll see. The lead has the right number, and so does Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Progress. Ntsimp (talk) 18:28, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I noticed and self-reverted. Magic♪piano 18:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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A user group you might be interested in[edit]

I just discovered you reside in Massachusetts and would like to invite you to check out New England Wikimedians, as we would love to have you attend our events. If you are interested, you can sign up here. Also, there is going to be a photography event on August 23rd on Cape Cod, if you would like to attend. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 18:41, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm actually aware of the group, but am presently uncertain about making the Cape Cod outing, due to other demands on my time around then. Magic♪piano 20:03, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, sorry about that, as I didn't see the notice when I scrolled down. No worries about that though, as it is still great to have you in the area. See you around, and let me know if you have any places you would liked photographed, as I would be happy to help coordinate it! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:45, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Nördliche Schutzhütte am Hasselborgsee[edit]

Zank you for ze new stub on ze Hasselborg Lake North Shelter Cabin. Now we just need a good photograph of the Nördliche Schutzhütte am Hasselborgsee. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 20:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Leider bin Ich nicht dieser Hütte (oder all den anderen) in der Nähe, sonst würde Ich sie fotografieren. :) Magic♪piano 20:09, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Moscow Methodist Church and Cemetery[edit]

Your recent edits to Moscow Methodist Church and Cemetery were based on the assertion that "most of the civil war material is not needed", however, there are specific references to this property having been directly involved in the Civil War:

  • Interview of the Moscow United Methodist Church.[1]
  • The Battle of Prairie DeAnn[2]
  • A Bluecoat's Account Of the Camden Expedition [3]
  • Civil War Battlefields in the State of Arkansas[4]
  • A Preservation Plan for Three Battles of the Camden Campaign.[5][6]

Also, your assertion that "there is a separate article for Moscow where it might be more relevant" is false. Such an article needs to be constructed.


Please revert your changes to this article, and/or please construct the article you specified. Please do so in such a way that both articles are properly aligned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.76.199 (talk) 19:27, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www.depotmuseum.org/articles.php?article=20 "...during the Civil War there was a skirmish there close to Moscow and a cannonball had hit that tree and that's what made that big old knot on it."
  2. ^ http://www.arkansaspreservation.com/historic-properties/_search_nomination_popup.aspx?id=147 Thayer's troops at the rear of the column did not leave Prairie De Ann proper until the following day. Price discovered the Union deception on April 13, and hastily returned to Prairie De Ann to attack the Camden-bound Union column as it withdrew." "Thayer deployed his men along the timberline on the eastern edge of the prairie near the village of Moscow to meet the pursuing Confederates; in the four hours of combat that ensued, the 2nd Indiana Battery fired more than two thousand shots, solid and shell." "The Federals reported seven killed and 24 wounded in the 'Battle of Moscow'."
  3. ^ http://peace.saumag.edu/swark/articles/ahq/camden_expedition/bluecoat/bluecoat85.html "We started for Camden and arrived on the 17th, having a fight with the rebels, who made an attack on our rear, just as we were leaving the prairie."
  4. ^ http://www.nps.gov/history/hps/abpp/CWSII/ArkansasBattlefieldProfiles/Pea%20Ridge%20to%20Saint%20Charles.pdf "The smaller Core Area represents “The Battle of Moscow," a rearguard engagement around and in the town of Moscow."
  5. ^ http://www.arkansaspreservation.com/!userfiles/editor/docs/Preservation%20Plan%20for%20Three%20Battles%20of%20the%20Camden%20Campaign.pdf The Battle of Elkin’s Ferry, The Battle of Prairie D’Ane, and The Battle of Moscow Church
  6. ^ http://www.arkansascivilwar150.com/camden-expedition/RedRiver.aspx Prairie DeAnn Sesquicentennial Reenacment - April 12, 2014
None of these sources establish a direct connection between this property and the military actions in the area; the fourth citation is a dead link. The only one that is at all geographically specific is the second citation, on the Battle of Prarie d'Ane, which says "on the eastern edge of the prairie near the village of Moscow". None of them are specific in linking the military action to the church, which is why I reduced the amount of material related to the conflict.
I acknowledge that a proper article on this particular Moscow, Arkansas, does not exist; I only noticed after I made that edit that Moscow, Arkansas refers to a different location. However, if you feel that an article on this Moscow is needed now, feel free to create it. My only attention was to this particular article. Magic♪piano 23:48, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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The first citation provides confirmation by verbal anecdote, and the source is enlisting 'common knowledge' from the local area. Her reflection bears additional credence since she "attended that church as a child." Being born in 9-5-1906,[2] Mrs. Adam's youth was not too far removed from the actual events, so it seems likely that her parents or grandparents would have been alive in 1864.

In the second citation, the volume of rounds that were exchanged at the battle is of interest, giving further credence to Mrs. Adam's recollections. (tree on church property hit by cannonball)

The fifth citation was indeed broken, and the link has been fixed. Being funded by the National Park Service American Battlefield Protection Program, this document should provide all the information needed by a researcher in regard to this matter.


Finally, I can understand and appreciate the accidental village listing, but it was your choice to adjust the original article now. That action resulted in the more immediate need for an article about Moscow itself. While I am not familiar with the procedure for creating new articles, I propose to expand upon the article if you will agree to it's initial setup . . . Moscow, Arkansas (Historic).

The anecdote in the first citation mentions a tree, but it does not say whether the tree is on church property, or somewhere else in the village: "when we moved here there was a big tree along the side of the road there by Moscow that had a big knot on it up high and the story was that during the Civil War there was a skirmish there close to Moscow and a cannonball had hit that tree and that's what made that big old knot on it. I remember that story that I heard when I was just a girl. But through the years the tree was cut down for some reason or other and it isn't there." The second citation does not mention this property, and neither do any of the others.
The things that I removed from the article are hardly critical to gaining a better understanding of this property; they were principally just a list of the major events of the Camden Expedition, and categories that are more properly suited toward articles on the actual military engagements. (For example, the list included the Battle of Poison Spring, which took place not at all near Moscow.) I removed none of the non-military history of Moscow. Magic♪piano 18:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

In order to understand the inclusion of Civil War references on this article, I suggest you read the Preservation Plan that was Funded By National Park Service American Battlefield Protection Program; 'A Preservation Plan for Three Battles of the Camden Campaign: The Battle of Elkin’s Ferry, the Battle of Prairie D’Ane and the Battle of Moscow Church'.[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.76.199 (talk) 02:16, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Very good, that is an adequate source for discussing the role of Moscow in the events of the Camden Expedition. Now, did I remove something that somehow resulted in a diminished understanding of the same? The old version made no mention that Moscow was the site of a rear-guard action on April 13, 1864, beyond linking "Action at Moscow" as a pipe to Battle of Prairie D'Ane, a deficient article that makes no mention of Moscow, and only quickly mentions that there was a rear-guard action. I would take issue with the notion that that is somehow a better characterization of the place's role than what is present in the article now. If you want to improve the article, then do so; you seem to have the resources at your disposal, but don't blame me for removing something that wasn't there. (While you're at it, you might also cover the construction history of the church, a subject obviously relevant in this article, and also present in your sources. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia.) Magic♪piano 18:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Actually, the deletions included this citation, Encyclopedia of Arkansas - Action at Moscow which specifically mentions the rear-gard action, and though my notes on your page have never been intended to criticize, I did have to mention the 'Plan For Preservation' several times before it was actually read. My only suggestions would be in regard to the use of discretion before deleting content. Before deletion, for example, one might fully read and understand the existing references. Afterwards, one might consider using - {{citation needed}} - or {{Multiple issues}}. Such options as these would provide specific and understandable requests without unnecessary loss of content.

It has been my hope that our conversation would help to inform and gather a consensus on this article. Toward that end, I remain hopeful. You have presented several good ideas and critiques that seem quite logical, so I thank you most kindly for that and for your continued interest in Wikipedia. Please feel free to edit your page as you see fit.

Thank you again.

PGW

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Hi, I noticed on "home sweet home" it was last updated 3 months ago, but I was actually looking for this movie called "home sweet home" that was made in 2013 by David Morlet. I wanted to know more about it but unfortunately it was not listed with the others. I would gladly appreciate it if you can add this particular movie on to the list. Thank you so much for your time(: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.185.92.65 (talk) 09:02, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

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ships passing in the night[edit]

I am highly amused -- highly -- to see that you and I were on a photo hunt in the same parts of Franklin County and Cumberland County on the same weekend. I hope you don't mind that I replaced your photo of the Little Red Schoolhouse with mine -- your pictures of Lakeside Grange No. 63 and South Bridgton Congregational Church were better than mine, so I feel like it works out.

I'm just glad now I didn't spend a lot of time trying to locate Barn on Lot 8, Range G, which was also on my list. :-) —Tim Pierce (talk) 00:57, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

(: I concur your photo of the schoolhouse is vastly better than mine. You were somewhat unlikely to find the barn -- it is reasonably well screened from the road (and thus easy to drive by), and the geolocator was in the wrong place. I only found it on my second trip down the road, and after reading the nomination form. (You would also have been seriously stumped by John G. Coburn Farm, if it was on your list.) It helps that I've been up that way several times this summer (hiking in the mountains). Magic♪piano 01:17, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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