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Adoption[edit]

Hi Marcus, would you like to be my mentor. Also, I would like you to have a discussion at my talk page about me and I would like to see your opinions, thanks. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 17:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2014 January newsletter[edit]

The 2014 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with, at time of writing, 138 participants. The is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2010. If you are yet to join the competition, don't worry- the judges have agreed to keep the signups open for a few more days. By a wide margin, our current leader is newcomer Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions), whose set of 14 featured pictures, the first FPs of the competition, was worth 490 points. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

Featured articles, featured lists, featured topics and featured portals are yet to play a part in the competition. The judges have removed a number of submissions which were deemed ineligible. Typically, we aim to see work on a project, followed by a nomination, followed by promotion, this year. We apologise for any disappointment caused by our strict enforcement this year; we're aiming to keep the competition as fair as possible.

Wikipedians interested in friendly competition may be interested to take part in The Core Contest; unlike the WikiCup, The Core Contest is not about audited content, but, like the WikiCup, it is about article improvement; specifically, The Core Contest is about contribution to some of Wikipedia's most important article. Of course, any work done for The Core Contest, if it leads to a DYK, GA or FA, can earn WikiCup points.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail) 19:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2014 February newsletter[edit]

And so ends the most competitive first round we have ever seen, with 38 points required to qualify for round 2. Last year, 19 points secured a place; before that, 11 (2012) or 8 (2011) were enough. This is both a blessing and a curse. While it shows the vigourous good health of the competition, it also means that we have already lost many worthy competitors. Our top three scorers were:

  1. Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer whose high-quality scans of rare banknotes represent an unusual, interesting and valuable contribution to Wikipedia. Most of Godot's points this round have come from a large set of pictures used in Treasury Note (1890–91).
  2. Oh, better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly... Adam Cuerden (submissions), a WikiCup veteran and a finalist last year, Adam is also a featured picture specialist, focusing on the restoration of historical images. This month's promotions have included a carefully restored set of artist William Russell Flint's work.
  3. United States WikiRedactor (submissions), another WikiCup newcomer. WikiRedactor has claimed points for good article reviews and good articles relating to pop music, many of which were awarded bonus points. Articles include Sky Ferreira, Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus and "Wrecking Ball" (Miley Cyrus song).

Other competitors of note include:

After such a competitive first round, expect the second round to also be fiercely fought. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2, but please do not update your submission page until March (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail) 00:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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MfD nomination of Rodney Mason[edit]

Rodney Mason, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Rodney Mason and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Rodney Mason during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. KJ click here 23:40, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rodney Mason[edit]

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Nomination of Rodney Mason for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rodney Mason is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rodney Mason until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 01:00, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hillary Rodham Clinton move request[edit]

Greetings! A proposal has been made at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton#Requested move 8 to change the title of the article, Hillary Rodham Clinton to Hillary Clinton. This notification is provided to you per Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification, because you have previously participated in a discussion on this subject. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 March newsletter[edit]

A quick update as we are half way through round two of this year's competition. WikiCup newcomer Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) (Pool E) leads, having produced a massive set of featured pictures for Silver certificate (United States), an article also brought to featured list status. Former finalist Oh, better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly... Adam Cuerden (submissions) (Pool G) is in second, which he owes mostly to his work with historical images, including a number of images from Urania's Mirror, an article also brought to good status. 2010 champion (Pool C) is third overall, thanks to contributions relating to naval history, including the newly featured Japanese battleship Nagato. Rhodesia Cliftonian (submissions), who currently leads Pool A and is sixth overall, takes the title for the highest scoring individual article of the competition so far, with the top importance featured article Ian Smith.

With 26 people having already scored over 100 points, it is likely that well over 100 points will be needed to secure a place in round 3. Recent years have required 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) and 100 (2010). Remember that only 64 will progress to round 3 at the end of April. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page; if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail) 22:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination for merging of Template:Forestry and gardening tools[edit]

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WikiCup 2014 April newsletter[edit]

Round 3 of the 2014 WikiCup has just begun; 32 competitors remain. Pool G's Oh, better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly... Adam Cuerden (submissions) was Round 2's highest scorer, with a large number of featured picture credits. In March/April, he restored star charts from Urania's Mirror, lithographs of various warships (such as SMS Gefion) and assorted other historical media. Second overall was Pool E's Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions), whose featured list Silver certificate (United States) contains dozens of scans of banknotes recently promoted to featured picture status. Third was Pool G's United States ChrisGualtieri (submissions) who has produced a large number of good articles, many, including Falkner Island, on Connecticut-related topics. Other successful participants included Rhodesia Cliftonian (submissions), who saw three articles (including the top-importance Ian Smith) through featured article candidacies, and Washington, D.C. Caponer (submissions), who saw three lists (including the beautifully-illustrated list of plantations in West Virginia) through featured list candidacies. High-importance good articles promoted this round include narwhal from Canada Reid,iain james (submissions), tiger from Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and The Lion King from Minas Gerais Igordebraga (submissions). We also saw our first featured topic points of the competition, awarded to Nepal Czar (submissions) and Indiana Red Phoenix (submissions) for their work on the Sega Genesis topic. No points have been claimed so far for good topics or featured portals.

192 was our lowest qualifying score, again showing that this WikiCup is the most competitive ever. In previous years, 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) or 100 (2010) secured a place in Round 3. Pool H was the strongest performer, with all but one of its members advancing, while only the two highest scorers in Pools G and F advanced. At the end of June, 16 users will advance into the semi-finals. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail) 17:57, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

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IPhone 6 listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Move review notification[edit]

Because you participated in the most recent discussion regarding the proposed move of Hillary Rodham Clinton, you are hereby notified per Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification that the administrative determination of consensus from that discussion is being challenged at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2014 May. Please feel free to comment there. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:22, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Great American Wiknic 2014 - St. Louis[edit]

I'd like to invite you to add a Chicago event for the Great American Wiknic. This year we're aiming to coalesce nationally around July 6, but any date that is convenient to your local community works as well. And don't be shy about putting something preliminary on the national Wiknic page, it all helps!--Pharos (talk) 16:40, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm thinking July 3rd, 4th or 5th would work best for us in St. Louis. It'll probably involve Fair Saint Louis in Forest Park and a decent amount of non-editors. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 19:52, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
I just put up a link on the national Wiknic page to Wikipedia:Meetup/St. Louis, saying "under discussion". It would be great if you could update that page with any preliminary details to date or location (or even a range).--Pharos (talk) 19:13, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Someone has put a new question up at Wikipedia:Meetup/St. Louis. It would be good to just pick a provisional date (whatever that is), so people visiting that page have some idea of what's going on.--Pharos (talk) 04:11, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of Keith M. Moore for deletion[edit]

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Wikipedia:Meetup/St. Louis[edit]

It says, "Wiknic 2013 is here!" Should that be 2014? I noticed you just updated it today, but it still says 2013. Wasn't sure if you were announcing a new event, or correcting last year's entry.—    Bill W.    (Talk)  (Contrib)  (User:Wtwilson3)  — 12:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Bill. I just updated it per your suggestion. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 05:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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MW8 listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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WikiCup 2014 June newsletter[edit]

After an extremely close race, Round 3 is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years- 321 was required in 2013, while 243 points were needed in 2012. Pool C's Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) was the round's highest scorer, mostly due to a 32 featured pictures, including both scans and photographs. Also from Pool C, Scotland Casliber (submissions) finished second overall, claiming three featured articles, including the high-importance Grus (constellation). Third place was Pool B's , whose contributions included featured articles Russian battleship Poltava (1894) and Russian battleship Peresvet. Pool C saw the highest number of participants advance, with six out of eight making it to the next round.

The round saw this year's first featured portal, with Republic of Rose Island Sven Manguard (submissions) taking Portal:Literature to featured status. The round also saw the first good topic points, thanks to Florida 12george1 (submissions) and the 2013 Atlantic hurricane season. This means that all content types have been claimed this year. Other contributions of note this round include a featured topic on Maya Angelou's autobiographies from Idaho Figureskatingfan (submissions), a good article on the noted Czech footballer Tomáš Rosický from Bartošovice v Orlických horách Cloudz679 (submissions) and a now-featured video game screenshot, freely released due to the efforts of Republic of Rose Island Sven Manguard (submissions).

The judges would like to remind participants to update submission pages promptly. This means that content can be checked, and allows those following the competition (including those participating) to keep track of scores effectively. This round has seen discussion about various aspects of the WikiCup's rules and procedures. Those interested in the competition can be assured that formal discussions about how next year's competition will work will be opened shortly, and all are welcome to voice their views then. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk · contribs) The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 18:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Commas[edit]

As I stated in my reversion move, there is no consensus to insert commas into the disambiguation links for Australian footballers. If you read the (as always) fairly limited discussion that lead to the "always use commas" line being inserted into the WP:NCPDAB, there was limited consensus for the use of commas where the disambiguator was an occupation, as opposed to the sport. There was also no consensus to apply it retrospectively. What you and User:Tanbircdq are doing is a complete waste of time and unless you are going to go back and fix up the template and other links to all of these articles you are taking the project backwards. Please do not commas into the name of any articles under WP:AFL project. We already have 100% consistency across our project and are quite happy where we are at the moment. Regards, The-Pope (talk) 10:21, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd be happy to change back the AFL edits. Is this what you want me to do? Also just so you know, links shouldn't be retargeted if they aren't immediately an issue. See: WP:NOTBROKEN. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 10:39, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
If there is limited consensus for the use of commas where the disambiguator is an occupation, as opposed to the sport then should not an RfC be raised on this issue to get this amended as this would be misleading and causes further inconsistency is article creation and moves.
If your project is consistent which you are all happy with, does this mean the use of the other format is inconsistent?
By the way how do Australian footballers differ from any other subject? Tanbircdq (talk) 11:06, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Like almost every RFC that aims for consistency, it means that any area that was already consistent, correct, unambiguous and just fine, can be made inconsistent because editors from that area either weren't consulted, weren't aware of the discussion or weren't listened to. The problem with moving articles, but leaving links, specifically template links, pointing to the redirect is that the article doesn't show up in bold in the navbox anymore. If you read the original "conformity" discussion, you see numerous people saying "comma's are OK if it makes sense, ie Politician born 1888 makes sense, Ice hockey born 1988 needs a comma. And of course it was a multi-faceted discussion, so plenty of people focused on born vs b. and ignored the comma issue. I'm pretty sure brevity and being concise used to be in the dab guidelines, but seem to have been removed, but it's weird to say "try to avoid using abbreviations or anything containing hyphens, dashes or numbers" and then force an unnecessary commas. I understand that you are just following a guideline (and remember guidelines aren't rules), but there was never any instruction or desire to force this change on existing articles. And what makes Australian footballers different? Not much, other than we have 150 footballer born XXXX articles and until recently none had commas. 8 do now. If I'm fighting a losing battle, I've got much more important things to worry about than a superfluous comma. Carry on, just don't leave too big a mess behind you. The-Pope (talk) 12:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I only started doing the moves after a move I made to remove the comma on a footballer's article was reverted back.
I agree with your opinion that (occupation born XXXX) e.g (Politician born 1888) makes sense, and (sport, born XXXX) e.g (Ice hockey, born 1988) clearly needs a comma. I really think greater clarity on WP:NCPDAB is needed to avoid any future problems or conflicts with consistency. Tanbircdq (talk) 12:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Our 150 footballers without a comma are nothing compared to the amount of round ball footballers without a comma. So, look forward to having a similar discussion with the people from WP:FOOTY such as User:GiantSnowman when they notice what's going on. You can read his thoughts on the "consensus" here. And the "you don't have to move them all" discussion was just above that one. The-Pope (talk) 14:07, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── My take on the matter - and this discussion needs centralizing by the way - is that the preferred format (in sport) is without the comma; from what I remember the change was driven by cricket editors who used that format, whereas other sports editors (such as soccer, like myself) wanted it without a comma, as shown by the thousands and thousands of articles which still use that format. But it's such a relatively minor thing and I am just happy to go with the flow. GiantSnowman 18:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry the picnic didn't come together. Looks like the weather isn't cooperating either! Thanks for organizing though, and hope to see you again another time . . . --Elonka 14:24, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I think everyone just needs a break from each other. We'll try again in the fall. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 04:01, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I forgot to answer - was away. Thanks for trying to get this together. Parkwells (talk) 19:04, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd planned on coming to Faust Park this morning to interview you and any other attendees present for a story I was going to write for a journalism class I'm taking this summer. Since the event was canceled, could I interview you over the phone instead? Pete Kahn

Hey, I'd love to! Is it possible we could still meet sometime this week? Thurs. and Fri. might not be possible. I live near Webster Groves, but I could meet anywhere. I'm just awful at phone conversation. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 04:01, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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You talking to me?[edit]

Not sure whether to start with shallow or deep background... I'm philosophically inclined to go deep first, so I'll start there.

I think we are philosophically aligned and that most of the so-called Wikipedians would agree with my philosophy that most people are mostly good. Therefore giving them an opportunity to do good things, such as share their personal knowledge, is also good. I'm less clear how much we would agree on bad behaviors and whether or not evil exists as a motivation. I think Wikipedia seems to be hung up on a peculiar notion of "vandalism" as a key "sin", whereas I'm more focused on economic incentives. I see technology as morally neutral, but if some people see ways to make a few bucks by abusing any particular technology, then you have to expect some abuse. If you want to get at the heart of economically motivated abuse, then you need to go after the money. (There are non-economic motivations, too, but those are more difficult to address. Perhaps impossible within a NPOV model.)

Funny point of unity there. This reasoning led me to stop using Wikipedia some months ago, because I feel like using Wikipedia is supporting a naively criminal enterprise. However I decided to visit a few days ago because you were asking for money (as noticed on a friend's computer when called over to see an article on Wikipedia).

That leads right into the shallow background. In response to seeing your plea for donations, I decided to visit Wikipedia. Perhaps things had improved during my extended absence? Evidently not so much. During my brief visit, I discovered that you [Mark S] had tried to send me some kind of message via your Talk page. Perhaps you had some comment regarding my concerns about the flagrant criminals who are abusing Wikipedia? I should at least give it polite consideration, eh? Perhaps I could even map my concerns into your conception of "vandalism"? So I followed the link to your Talk page, where I could find no trace of any message directed to me.

Well, the next step seemed to be to ask you what it was about, but I was blocked. Not personally, though it was rather difficult to determine that, but because at that time I was associated with an IP address that was included in a block of IP addresses that Wikipedia had blocked over a year ago. Therefore I initiated the appeal process, which was quickly rejected by some administrator named jpgordon. From the comment associated with his rejection, it is pretty clear he doesn't know or care about what is actually going on. From a technical perspective, I'm also sure he is incorrect--but why should I care? (To send you this comment, I obviously went around your so-called block. Since the block was obviously a mistake and a bug in your so-called defenses, the evasion was trivial. I was being polite to "respect" it until I obtained additional information.)

Back on deep background again, but for an organization that says it wants to encourage broad participation, I have to conclude that Wikipedia has a really peculiar way of showing it. I don't think you need more participation from criminals and less participation from people who don't like criminals. Apart from my dislike of criminals, I could even contribute from a technical perspective, since I work for a research lab. But I won't. My current opinion of Wikipedia is that you are a bunch of well-intentioned folks, but with a rather weak grasp of reality, so the entire enterprise will probably crash and burn fairly soon.

Okay, so much for the background. Do you have any recollection of what your comment directed to me was? I'll try to visit Wikipedia again in a week or two to check for any response. However, the bottom line is that I sort of wish Wikipedia well, I definitely wish the criminals ill, and I'm extremely unlikely to donate any time or money.

P.S. Your name might be German. If so, then nationalistic congratulations on your hard-fought victory in this morning's World Cup final. Shanen (talk) 01:20, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The conversation you are referring to has been archived, so all is not lost (link). Feel free to continue that thread here.
Is my identity being used for fundraising on Wikipedia?? I hope not! Mark Schierbecker (talk) 12:34, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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Mizzou Arena[edit]

The section I removed was very promotional "fully cushioned theatre-style seats" and "offering full food and drink service, televisions and other comforts" are examples. It was directly advertising the Tiger Scholarhip Fund, the Clinton Club bar, the concession stands, and the Tiger Team store and mention of the private boxes and meeting room is probably to encourage payment for their usage. None of this is remotely encyclopedic. Edward321 (talk) 01:06, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 06 August 2014[edit]

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Windows 7 replacement listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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The Signpost: 20 August 2014[edit]

The Signpost: 27 August 2014[edit]

WikiCup 2014 August newsletter[edit]

The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:

  1. Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
  2. Scotland Casliber (submissions) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
  3. Nepal Czar (submissions) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
  4. Oh, better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly... Adam Cuerden (submissions) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
  5. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
  6. Florida 12george1 (submissions) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
  7. Colorado Sturmvogel 66 (submissions), the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
  8. Canada Bloom6132 (submissions), the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. Herm Matty.007 (submissions), Ohio ThaddeusB (submissions), United States WikiRedactor (submissions), Idaho Figureskatingfan (submissions), Greece Yellow Evan (submissions), Portugal Prism (submissions) and Bartošovice v Orlických horách Cloudz679 (submissions) have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk · contribs) The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Your experience with Adopt-a-user[edit]

Hello Mark Schierbecker,

I am working on a project to support the development of current and future newcomer mentorship programs on Wikipedia.

Because you recently participated in Adopt-a-user, I would like to interview you about your experience in this program.

If you are interested, please email me at gmugar [at] syr.edu and hopefully we can find a convenient time to conduct an interview via Skype or Google hangout.

Thanks,

Gabrielm199 (talk) 14:56, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Sounds interesting! Unfortunately I don't do too well over video chats, let alone phone calls. Best of luck. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 05:06, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
How about an interview over IRC? Gabrielm199 (talk) 21:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
That would be good. A text chat over Google Hangouts would be even better. Sometime this weekend? Mark Schierbecker (talk) 20:28, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Great! Unfortunately this weekend will not work for me. How does Monday after 17:00 UTC look for you? Gabrielm199 (talk) 22:25, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Monday 17–19:00 would be best. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 03:06, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mark, I also work with Gabe, and I can conduct this interview. Unfortunately, I'm a little tied up today to interview you today. Is there another time during the week that might work well? We can definitely still meet over IRC. I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:07, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Anytime Tues. would be the absolute best. Thurs. before 5pmCST could also work. Email me. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 20:37, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 September 2014[edit]

The Signpost: 10 September 2014[edit]