User talk:Martin451

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Your remarks concerning terrorist related media[edit]

In Talk:James Foley (journalist) you made the remark:

Forget copyright. If this is a torrent of the video, then clicking on that link will download it, it will also upload it to others. In the UK this is illegal under anti-terrorism legislation [35]The force said in a statement: "The MPS counter-terrorism command (SO15) is investigating the contents of the video that was posted online in relation to the alleged murder of James Foley. We would like to remind the public that viewing, downloading or disseminating extremist material within the UK may constitute an offence under terrorism legislation."In the US where wikipedia is based, you have your own Patriot Act which includes Providing material support for terrorism. Having this link on wikipedia could count as material support, as it is a link to a terrorist video. Martin451 22:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I think this is the most rational argument as to why this material should not be uploaded or linked to from Wikipedia. The problem is that this comes from your own legal interpretation. For something like this to become policy, input from Wikimedia's legal department will need to be obtained. Until there's a brightline rule regarding what can or cannot be included there will continue to be vitriolic debate between those who think it shouldn't be included (often for personal reasons) and those who think it should with the justification of WP:NOTCENSORED. I'm against censorship in general, however there will be severe backlash if Wikimedia servers are hosting large amounts of uncensored propaganda materials. I fought against having porn on Commons, esp when users uploaded images as "own work" without providing any age verification, however my suggested policy COM:SEX was rejected. Wikipedia also hosts controversial material "Collateral Murder" and images of Muhammad under the justification of "not censored". I would like your help to start a policy discussion, Board discussion, and/or RFC to help get this clarified before there's more discord, edit wars, and blocked users.~Technophant (talk) 17:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I have read this message, it is a complex issue, and I will have to have a think about it. Martin451 00:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
While I neither started nor contributed to it yet that discussion has come to Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#ISIL_beheading_videos.~Technophant (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2014 (UTC)