User talk:Maryana (WMF)
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Mobile editor and images
Regarding the decision to put mobile uploads on ice: I agree, it is disappointing when hard work has to be put on the shelf.
Perhaps mobile uploads can be divided into a two-stage process for new editors and editors with a history of deleted images:
- Allow unregistered editors, new editors, and established editors with a poor deleted-uploads record to upload files in a way that they can't embedded or searched (no Google-fu), and in which files are automatically deleted if not edited in the last 30 days.
- A method for established editors without a poor deleted-uploads record to review these uploads and turn them into regular files upon request (similar to Wikipedia:Files for upload). New editors who edit enough to be considered "established editors" before the 30-day window closes would be able to turn their earlier uploads into regular files without further assistance, assuming of course that they do not have a poor deleted-uploads record.
- Established editors without poor deleted-upload records should be able to upload files from any device and use any tools that make uploading easy and convenient.
For the sake of simplicity, I would recommend that "established editors" be automatically calculated (like autoconfirmed) and that it include almost-brand-new accounts provided that they have gone through a tutorial process as well as accounts that are "clearly established" by virtue of age and edit count whether they have gone through a tutorial or not. I also recommend that "established editors" who have poor deletion records and who subsequently go through the tutorial be considered "established editors" in good standing as far as the automated process is concerned. Problem editors who retake the tutorial over and over and continue to upload problematically can be handled individually by administrators. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:46, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Davidwr, thanks for reaching out. These are all good ideas – I'm especially interested in the idea of a mobile-specific queue of images that need to be reviewed before fully going live, as it's something many sites (e.g., Yelp) have experimented with to solicit mobile uploads but also keep quality in check. And I do think that when we revisit this feature, we should consider it in terms of two forked paths, one for newer users and one for more experienced ones, rather than one linear experience for everyone.
- Anyway, thanks again for the the suggestions. It is a little sad when features don't succeed beyond our wildest dreams, but I'd rather we experiment, fail, and learn from mistakes than always play it maximally conservative or fail and just continue failing ;) Maryana (WMF) (talk) 18:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Feedback and mobile discussion
Hey Maryana, myself and a couple other people have raised issues with the Mobile interface during discussions at WT:Flow. For future reference, is there a better place on-wiki to discuss this? The mobile help page seems not to attract too much attention, and I'd really rather not try to post anything on Bugzilla if I can avoid it. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Definitely not Bugzilla :)
- I don't have a great answer for this, unfortunately. Mobile hasn't been of wide interest to folks onwiki in the past, so we haven't had any centralized discussion spots for it, but since the former is starting to change, the latter should, too. I'll give it some thought and chat with our Community Liaison team to see what we can do to improve our communication channels :) In the meantime, the best we've got is the mobile mailing list (mobile-llists.wikimedia), which is open to everyone and publicly archived. Maryana (WMF) (talk) 18:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:16, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Never mind, not okay: "you are not allowed to post to this mailing list and your message has been automatically rejected". Could you please tell someone who might know what's going on that several people are reporting not being able to find article talk pages when browsing articles on mobile view? I don't know whether it's a bug or just a design issue, but I know it should be there and I still can't find it. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:29, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- You might've been caught in a spam filter; subscribe to the list here and all your posts will go through automatically.
- As for the talk page issue, that's really strange. I just tried it on my iPhone (on both the Wikipedia app and the mobile site) and it worked fine. Can you point me to the onwiki discussion if it exists? Maryana (WMF) (talk) 17:21, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia_talk:Flow#Misconception:_Mobile_editing_is_the_future_for_talk_pages, a few other places. Judging by the screenshots on Comons there's supposed to be a little talk-bubble icon at the top of the page, but I've just tested this on iPad mobile site and mobile app as well as Android mobile site, on pages that I know for sure have existing talk pages, and that icon is nowhere to be seen. The only way I'm able to get to talk pages is by searching or via watchlist. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2014 (UTC)