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Another cat

Category:Muslim_ruling_clans_of_India is another that needs to go to CfD; I'm on the fence on whether this is a delete or a rename. Maybe you can think of something? cheers. -SpacemanSpiffCalvinHobbes 02:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Move requests

Please see the instructions on Wikipedia:Requested moves to see how to file a move request. Basically, {{move}} has to be substituted and within the context of the discussion. This might be news for you, since the system only changed a few months ago. @harej 21:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Khudabadi Sindhi Swarankar

Dear Mr. Matthew Vanitas, Hi We have discussed this page earlier also and you helped in cleaning up and shaping this page for which I am thankful to you. I have now to clarify following points:

RE:Sumra Dynasty and Sumro Wikipedia has some pages on above alredy. They are mentioning Soomra Dynasty for Sumra Dynasty and Soomro for Sumro. I therefore make the changes accordingly to match with the exsisting articles. Please allow me to change.

Re:Biography of Late Shri Jhamandas fatumal Purswani I was the person who edited this para and mistakenly indicated the year of printing of biography as 1971 instead of 1962. This is a correction of my earlier mistake. Please allow me to rectify.

Re:Hyderabad, Sindh: Khudabadi Sindhi Swarankar are equally associated with Khudabad in founding it and Hyderabad for development. Please allow me to indicate Hyderabad also.

With best regards, gsp196.220.24.159 (talk) 19:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Uncategorised pages

Hi, I noted that you categorised Shrivastava and Water monkey today. Checking the edit history, I found that both these articles were uncategorised because of vandalism a few weeks ago that had deleted other material. I would recommend you to check this in future if you have time. Kind regards, Fayenatic (talk) 18:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Hazara

Hi MatthewVanitas. You may be interested in this. Regards. Tajik (talk) 23:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Akhtar Raza

(Ahmadvns (talk) 05:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)) Sir, I am extremely sorry for massive amount of sectarian bias in my article Akhtar Raza. I would like to assure you to do some good job (better articles) in future, like a good Wikipedian. Plaese co operate with me. Thanks'

POV Watch

I've created a page in my user space to keep track of India articles that need to be watched for POV pushing. Feel free to add to the list, it's probably easier to maintain a list this way than to post at WT:INB every time something comes through. I'll ask a few other editors to collaborate too. cheers. -SpacemanSpiffCalvinHobbes 21:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

The "Barelwi" article

You've put in a lot of good work into this article in the way of copyediting and correcting the citations. I placed an appeal on the talk page that perhaps you could help with. I've been watching that article for almost two years, and have seen a lot of people come and go with varying agendas (and have even had my user page vandalized a few times from angry Barelwi fans/detractors). It could use someone with a more serious "encyclopedic attitude" as I like to call it (and with the minimum acceptable competency in the English language).

Also, you may want to archive your talk page, it's rather long. MezzoMezzo (talk) 17:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I noticed some comments regarding the material about Salafist reactions to the Barelwi movement which I would like to discuss. Specifically, a link from a partisan website known as "Fatwa Online." It is certainly clear that the site has an agenda to push. What I would focus on, however, is not the site itself but rather the information it provides.
The page in questions was referencing a statement from Saudi Arabia's Permanent Committee. This is the main theological body in a prominent Muslim country that also contains the Islamic religion's two holiest cities. The notability of this committee speaks for itself, and while we certainly don't want the article to take sides, the fact that such a committee made a publicly pronounced statement regarding the Barelwi movement is itself notable as well.
If we (the editors) come to a conclusion that linking to a web page from "Fatwa Online" is not appropriate then I can see that. It is simple to look up the reference and volume number for the committee's statement for reference purposes however. I am sure you can agree that such a religious body making such a statement is at least worthy of mention in the article as representing mainstream Salafist opinion, which (given the amount of controversy surrounding just the article here on Wikipedia) is notable. MezzoMezzo (talk) 22:50, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The New Edits to Barelwi Article

I have seen Your good edits on this Page they are worth of Keeping but with due respect I would request you to engage some neutral editor to this page as the Present editor who has Inserted his POV edits has used his energy to just Insert only Criticism section anyhow in this Page which was removed many times by various neutral editors.You may see History of three four months. I have not seen any Constructive edit of him in this Article . I am also watching this Article since long but what he used to do is to degrade this article as much as he can. He is good Supporter of Salafi and Wahabi Articles.He has been warned also in this regard.

  • Just See the hypocrisy here-

Blatant POV edits in criticism section, which are sourced to websites of Salafis who are just enemies of Barelwis.Like this ref in http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/creed/deviants/0010517_5.htm

Hope You will cooperate. Shabiha 19:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Thanks and regards for Your Cooperation

I am seraching some material on this Movement from a long and wish to share with you that research by Usha Sanyal a Cambridge Uni. researcher, will be very much helpful to Know the actual Position.She is a Non Muslim lady.Just read this article here[1] and here[2].

  • She has done her Phd on this Subject.Hope You will take time to Improve article and to protect it from non neutral editors.

Shabiha 20:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Hi! Regarding Fatwaonline.com's Fatwa,It is submitted that

Fatwaonline is a highly Biased ,Non Neutral and Unreliable site.It has nothing else but Propganda of a Particular Sect.

  • The hindu Article is Just an Opinion piece and the Content Inserted by the editor is written in Non Neutral Language.

Shabiha 12:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree, this was a transparent hoax. I did a little searching just to confirm, and was about to tag it db-g3 when I looked at the history and saw that it had originally been a useful redirect, so I have restored that. I'll watch it - if the hoax comes back I'll maybe ask for the redirect to be semi-protected - that'll keep the IPs off, and the SPA author of the hoax can be blocked if he persists. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


Conflict of Interest?

Hi, you tagged both the Messiah Foundation International and Younus AlGohar articles as having a conflict of interest. They seem to have good sources (though more are being added for reliability) and do not seem biased to me. Could you please explain how, so that we can improve the articles (as I myself contribute a lot to the articles)? Perhaps we should change the language to make it more neutral? Thanks for your help in advance. (Omirocksthisworld (talk) 22:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC))

Copy Editing Issue in Barelwi Page

As You are a neutral editor here and have given your very much time,reading this movement it is requested that kindly keep editing in this manner to improve the article.I am of the view that article should show the facts to the world and not just POV of others. I also think there is need of Copy editing in the Violence section which you may do in a very neutral manner.Msoamu (talk) 07:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

You might be interested in this discussion I've started. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 19:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Giga (instrument)

The article Giga (instrument) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unsourced despite request dated April 2008 - barely more than a definition. No notability seemingly claimed.

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Dawlat

Why dawlat redirects to Islamic Revolutionary State of Afghanistan, there are many other states whose name include dawlat, Dawlat-i Saljūqiān or Devlet-i ʿAliyye-i ʿOsmāniyye?Kavas (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2009 (UTC) As an extra knowledge, "dawlat" is also used in modern Turkish, for example in translation of Plato's famous book "Republic".Kavas (talk) 23:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have nominated Category:Deaths due to horse attacks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Prezbo (talk) 19:55, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Regarding changes in wikipage of caste :" Maratha"

I do have explanation for removing the quote from colonel i.e.

"In 1798 Colonel Tone, who commanded a regiment of the Peshwa’s army, wrote[2] of the Marāthas: “The three great tribes which compose the Marātha caste are the Kunbi or farmer, the Dhangar or shepherd, and the Gawli or cowherd; to this original cause may perhaps be ascribed that great simplicity of manner which distinguishes the Marātha people.”[3]"

1) Maratha caste do exists far before the 1798. A people from a certain caste do know what there caste is. Dhanagar, Gawali,Maratha are absolutely different castes( I do believe , you live in India and aware of the caste system here.) 2)I take it highly offensive to categories/refer these Kunbi as a "Tribe" by someone outsider and mention four different caste as a single caste , even-if they are registered as separate different caste today. 3)If it is the question of quotes only by someone in a history(past-Independence Era), I do have many quotes which referring "Maratha" as an independent caste and it is having absolutely no relation with Caste Dhanagar ,Gawali. Kunbi is subcaste of Caste "Maratha" and for which ,we certainly not required a Great Quote from someone outside the India.

I am having other points, but first I want see your "Independent" explanation regarding "WHY" you are interested in putting the above Quote here. I believe , the explanation is Genuine and is far more than just scratching out my points. Expecting your "Explanation" sooner , at least before you can undo my change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingale 74 (talkcontribs) 13:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Darul Uloom edits

Dear MV. I saw your edit to the list of scholars in the article. Though you did with all the good intentions, but missed some famous people e.g. Ubaidullah Sindhi. Some others, holding important academic/religious positions, may be included in my humble opinion. I wish that, before delition, you bring the issue to the article's discussion page and give time to those with expertise/knowledge in this area.(I am not an expert to do it myself; I contribute copy edits here and there mainly). Hope you will look into it. Wiki dr mahmad (talk) 03:39, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Iraq governorates reordering

HI. Can you split the rest of Category:Cities, towns and villages in Iraq by governorate as you did with Al Anbar? Like Category:Cities, towns and villages in Iran. Himalayan 16:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

.25ACP?

The category is misspelled. There should be a space = .25 ACP. Koalorka (talk) 05:46, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Test edits on bagpipes?

I think you might have me confused with the vandal whose additions I was removing. See: [3] [4] Let me know if there's a problem. Cheers! --NellieBly (talk) 03:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Marking POV of the page for Muhammad Muslehuddin Siddiqui

Greetings, can you please mark, in what areas you feel that article is biased ? as far as I am concern, I have wrote on pediac material, and did not explained any views that could be controversial, its rather than a short view with dates --Ibne Adhi (talk) 07:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Kelutviaq

I just came across that article and noticed a problem. It says "...Inuit peoples of Nelson Island, British Columbia..." but I doubt that there are any Inuit that far south. I think it must be First Nations people of Nelson Island (British Columbia) or Inuit peoples of Nelson Island (Alaska). Do you know which is correct. Cheers. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 11:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

POV of Muhammad Muslehuddin Siddiqui

Matthew I have just changed few things in the article, appreciate if could review and remove POV tag.--Ibne Adhi (talk) 12:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Greetings, Mathew I guess you mistakenly left POV tag and removed copy editing TAG. --Ibne Adhi (talk) 10:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Criticism on thanvi

Dear Matthew, I am unable to understand your objection, since I have provided actual sentence written by him, and provided book name, book publisher and its date of publish, looking forward for your reply, as I am afraid how real critics is not allowed on wiki, since reader will decide if this sentence is of what feeling --Ibne Adhi (talk) 08:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Greetings, Matthew, thanks for adding criticism on the article, but what it is very short to understand why ?, since the fatwa of Kufr was imposed to Thanwi because of that answer which he gave in return of a question, how about we just add the exact sentence of the fatwa which he gave, and people could conclude why Ahmad Raza Khan imposed fatwa upon him, we are not adding any commentary on it, we just quote exact sentence what he wrote, and this is justified, we are not summarizing any material, we are just adding exact sentence what he quoted in his Fatwa, moreover few more fatwa are with me, I want to put exact sentence written by him, let the people read them self and understand, I wont be explaining any sort of portion --Ibne Adhi (talk) 10:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Previously, I stated that, Thanwi considers that Knowledge of Prophet Muhammad is similar equal to the knowledge of animal, beast, and mad, at that time you asked me to quote proper context where as for now, you are not adding just for space issues, what my point is, Ahmad Raza Khan issued Fatwa of Kufr against Thanwi in response to the below fatwa by Thanw, and then I am quoting context of thanwi, rather than summarizing Fatwa of Ahmad Raza Khan which will not be neutral as per your point of view, as Ahmad Raza Khan wrote that Thanwi was an insolent and his insolence could be seen in the fatwa which he issued in regard to the knowledge of Prophet Muhammad, now please suggest, how to proceed. I want to be clear on the subject of thanwi, and I am disappointed too, as neutral criticism with proper context has not been appreciated by Wikipedia. --Ibne Adhi (talk) 07:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Greetings Matthew, waiting for your update --Ibne Adhi (talk) 10:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Catagories

I noticed you weighed in at Talk:Seal hunting back in august. Of course the catagories are related by nature of "wild animal hunting for commercial purposes." Good call! Regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 20:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that you have been using Category:Uncategorised musical groups, so I'd like to draw your attention to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 November 23#Category:Uncategorised musical groups in case you want to state your opinion there. Regards, BNutzer (talk) 19:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Sivakasi riots

See the talk page. I got tired of trying to have a discussion with that IP. It was a case of "We don't consider ourselves a lower caste", the books are wrong kind of an issue. He provided a ref to a Christian missionary publication that said "they have both the low class and middle class group in them" or something to that effect, but it also went on to add that "they are scoundrels"! Sigh. -SpacemanSpiff 04:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Curriculum vitae

I have started a move discussion about CV, Curriculum vitae and Résumé. You have previously participated in this topic, and I would like your input in this discussion if you are still interested. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Death question

Thanks for your good question and interest - hope you might be able to help at the death project! cheers SatuSuro 03:41, 18 December 2009 (UTC) But - maybe a point to centralise - thee point made at milhist and at death - need somehow to be in one place in the end - I think anthrop project might take a bit longer to get a good reply there - but I still think it is where you need to be heading (sic) ultimately SatuSuro 05:05, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

The more I tag - I believe that it is potentially low level death project item - and probably more anthropological item - the collecting is more of a social or psychological issues - rather than the objects that are being collected - products of death SatuSuro 13:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

African armed forces

If you ever have some spare time, please take a look at fr:Utilisateur:Buckshot06/Forces Armées du Libéria, which I'd like to put into French mainspace, but is not too good. My French is weak and rusty, I'm afraid. Buckshot06 (talk) 23:37, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm wondering if you can lend a hand with a spot of (French to English) translation? I'd like someone to go through the final paragraph of the Under French control section of the Château-Gaillard article to make sure I've understood the source. I was working from this, and think I've covered the main points but can't be sure as my French is not great. Nev1 (talk) 20:47, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

No worries, my understanding of French is basic and the translation was mainly with Yahoo's Babel Fish and a dictionary when complicated sentences didn't make sense. It's a valuable job you're undertaking so keep up the good work! Thanks, Nev1 (talk) 01:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Buffalo Soldier tragedy of 1877

Hello,

Thank you for your assistance on Buffalo Soldier tragedy of 1877. You express some concerns, but nothing is noted on the talk or discussion page. Would you be so kind to elalborate on the talk page? Thank you. Jrcrin001 (talk) 23:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the more details. When I get a chance, I will try to do as well as the example you gave in the lede. Jrcrin001 (talk) 02:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

You might check out this article. Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 19:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

I made a quick translation of the section that you added and will add some more detail from the Volkstage in German, French and Italian in the online Historical Dictionary of Switzerland. soon. Tobyc75 (talk) 21:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey, you might take a look at this article now. I added a bunch of background and expanded the article out. Thanks for pointing me to an interesting subject. Tobyc75 (talk) 02:54, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Took at look at Bavarian People's Uprising (a better translation of the word) and cleaned it up. I'm not as familiar with Bavarian resources, so I couldn't add references. There's two battles mentioned in the uprising (both with article in the German WP), which might make articles or at least expand this article. You might take a look at those 2 battles and see. Tobyc75 (talk) 22:08, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Work on Revolt of the Brotherhoods

Hi! Great to see somebody else taking interest in this, I've been meaning to come back and expand this for awhile but been distracted / busy. (Notably, I didn't even fix blatantly bad edits like this..., and the main article still needs some work.)

That said. I noticed you translated some articles on specific battles in the war. Honestly, I'm not sure that these articles are ever likely to get long enough to stand on their own well. List of battles of the Italian Wars is a good example, shorter battles got merged to the list while more important ones have "main articles." If tons more information is found, they can always be expanded back out. Shamefully, I never finished Military history of the Revolt of the Comuneros, which was going to have full information on all the battles... argh, need to get back and do that as well. Anyway, I think that something similar would be appropriate - perhaps a Military history of the Revolt of the Brotherhoods or List of battles of the Revolt of the Brotherhoods article would be better, with all the specific battles merged to it (as well as general campaign information).

Also on the merging note, Brotherhoods of Mallorca is translated from the same content I used for Revolt of the Brotherhoods#Germanies of Majorca, 1521–1523. While this is definitely something that might be able to stand as its own article some day, I'm not sure it does now? ...alas, I found rather little information on the Mallorca situation, so it probably won't be me who expands this. I'm not adverse to them having their own article with a {{main|Brotherhoods of Mallorca}} for the section, but I could also see a merge here too, maybe. Unsure.

Anyway, it's still nice to see some others looking into this. Any thoughts on the above? SnowFire (talk) 17:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

(moved from SF's talk page) Greetings, glad to see someone else tracking on the topic. I hadn't set out to do so, but have been mining other-language wikis for subjects with little/no coverage on en.wiki, and chanced across ca.wiki's stash of Brotherhood materials, figured I'd create a parallel cat. I mentioned in WikiProject: Spain that the battle articles I've translated are the short ones, and in all honesty that was just to start populating the category to at least get the ball rolling. I wouldn't be adverse to their later being merged; that said there are several far-longer and more-WP Brotherhood battle articles on ca.wiki, I just happen to be focused on general expansion/inter-wiki more than specific labour-intensive articles at the moment. So far as Brotherhood of Mallorca, I would prefer to leave it a separate article, largely so that I can make sure it ties into the Majorca category-tree. I may soon mine ca.wiki to build a "History of Majorca" category, and that'll be a start. At some point as well I need to keep mining ca.wiki for Catalan paramilitary groups, and history of Iberian anarchism, both topics where ca.wiki has far more coverage than en.wiki.
What other topics are you translating over from the other languages? MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:58, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. I would be in favor of moving it to Brotherhoods of Majorca for use of all-English terms (alternatively, "Germanies of Mallorca" for all-Catalan or "Germanías of Mallorca" for all-Spanish), since if you look at the talk page I got some criticism myself for the mixed title "Revolt of the Germanies" the page had for awhile. Definitely would be in favor of merging the battle articles, though.
As for other stuff? Probably the biggest was my work on the Revolt of the Comuneros article, which I submitted to FAC but was rejected on, to me, somewhat specious and non-specific prose complaints. That was actually more translation from real sources rather than es.wikipedia, but there's a whole lot of minor players who could use to have their articles expanded from Spanish Wikipedia. Juan Bravo and Francisco Maldonado come to mind (Maria Pacheco too, but I actually half-wrote a much better article on her from some of the books I read... just need to finish that). Also obviously translated Revolt of the Brotherhoods at the same time. More recently, read up on the Second Brotherhood some, but created the Revolt of the Barretinas article and fully intend to make a completeish article on the Catalonian campaign of the War of the Grand Alliance (similar to the Military history / List of Battles articles). That one is actually almost completely done, no idea why I haven't posted it yet. Anyway, are you fluent in Catalan? I posted a request on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catalan-speaking Countries awhile back, but got no response. Was idly thinking of submitting the Barretinas article to GA / FA some day, but would want more backing first to make sure the English sources are on the right page.
I did some work translating House of Mendoza but became frustrated and quit after a persistent editor constantly reverted my translation of Diego Hurtado de Mendoza on bad grounds IMO. Not entirely related to the Brotherhoods, but es:Germanía could also use a full translation to the English article. Not sure I'll ever get to that one, though. And while most of the material is from English sources, some of Expulsion of the Moriscos is translated from the Spanish article on it. SnowFire (talk) 18:48, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

A combination of Google Translate and from scratch. My Spanish isn't really fluent (more like "passable tourist") which makes Catalan... well, I get the general gist, but there's always the worry about missing idioms / subtle word meanings.

Personally, the heated political nature of the post-1850 stuff always scared me off a bit. ;-) Which is not to say that the 1500s-1600s don't have their share of weird nationalisms, natch. Iran's interesting too, but I got stuck into a very dumb edit war at the 1952 coup page the last time I poked my head into that, and gave up in disgust - one of those cases where there was a clear failure to agree on what the same book all four editors read actually said. SnowFire (talk) 19:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

RfD nomination of José Pedro de Alcântara,

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History project

I dont think there is anyone there currently active who is interested in assessment or categories - SatuSuro 13:35, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Dūdas

Hi, I corrected it to (hopefully) understandable English, copy editing is up to you ~~Xil (talk) 18:21, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello there

I'm not sure of your intent with the new article you created. Aren't the two above the same? kind regards --Merbabu (talk) 07:27, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I just redirected it. So don't worry about deleting it. You never know - someone might search on either name. --Merbabu (talk) 07:35, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

That is one amazing beard! Drmies (talk) 02:42, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Bot

Well I just cut my big white beard off - so - your recent flurry shows up like a rash at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AlexNewArtBot/IndonesiaSearchResult - you are gonna see my complaints about lack of tags, WP:RS, and so on and etc - so apologies in advance if it stretches out a bit over time - we usually seek sanctions against non english speaking editors doing something like that - so cheers and as they say 'have a nice day' SatuSuro 07:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Pemoeda

Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Pemoeda. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as yourself. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Youth Pledge. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will to continue helping improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Youth Pledge - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. SatuSuro 11:49, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


Or it could become a merge tag or a redirect - as I am going to be doing a few in the list - which way would you prefer it was done? - There are going to be a few in the list that will need to become redirects, or merge candidates - any suggestion of the easiest way will be appreciated SatuSuro 11:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


FYI - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia#New_Edits_-_Indonesian_military_history - we need to have a centralised discussion on this as there are various actions in response to the new articles SatuSuro 12:24, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Aceh war(s)

I do not agree with speedy and ask for it to go through the slower process SatuSuro 12:01, 11 January 2010 (UTC) Apologies - withdrawn objection it seems these days the accepted usage is ache war - in my undergraduate days we were given the plural - so much for old age - sorry about that :) SatuSuro 13:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Also it is a bit overwhelming as there are many articles that are either duplicating existing material or providing dutch (and some cases quite divergent from current thinking in academic circles as to the dutch version against others) versions that have quite different perspectives from current Indonesian or foreign academic versions of things in history SatuSuro 12:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Matthew, I'm done with translating the article so it would be ok if you'd like to take a look at it. The article has become briefer than I expected, for I found that some of the information was redundant. Anyway, feel free to request any nl:WP article translations in the future; my pleasure,--Antiphus (talk) 12:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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  1. Mustafa Aberchán - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 22:19, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh dear

Standard practice for that move is the Indonesian project do not carry dutch or Indonesian words in the title of the article where there is a translatable item - it is now a real mess as an admin or further will need to adjudicate - the aka would have been a redirect and the thing is now really no longer an easy task to sort out SatuSuro 05:39, 17 January 2010 (UTC) still a mess - but forgot - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia#Great_East :) cheers SatuSuro 10:07, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

sorry - your patience and agf is commendable and my apologies of being like a chook without some parts of its anatomy - my nederlands was never very good :( SatuSuro 15:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

The indonesian project moves in very mysterious ways - maybe we need a beer and a wait to see whether arsonal gets back to cornell soon (jealousy, I was in London in the british library few months ago and never thought to check some of the indonesian stuff they or SOAS holds) - he might just bring the stub up the way he does to a brilliant article - lets hope so - the dutch latter days in the indonesian archipelago saw some desperate last attempts at clutching at things and ideas - some that still carry on until this day SatuSuro 15:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Heheh - one day when i rule the world :) all asian categories and those very horrible templates will all be reduced to the ether forever - they are so unhelpful as to entice arguments about what is in it and out of it - there should be a southeast asian version of what you put in SatuSuro 03:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Sarandoy

Funny, it sounds more like an island of the Faroe Islands or off the coast of northern Scotland! You might want to use this and this. The find articles is spam linked so it can't be used directly... Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

For letting the Indonesian project know about the latest lot - cheers SatuSuro 03:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I have nominated Buffalo hunting (disambiguation) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. --MelanieN (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2010 (UTC)MelanieN

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Syntax

The correct syntax for the Expand language temaplates is "topic=hist" not "history=yes". Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 03:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)..

  • Thanks for being editing HH Gohar Shahi's article. As its been proved that HH Gohar Shahi did never claim being Imam Mehdi or the Prophet. You can understand very well that Younus (who call himself algohar, just to show people link with gohar shahi) & MFI are whatever doing is against the teaching of HH Gohar Shahi. They are simply using the name & picture of HH Gohar Shahi, this is a great conpiracy against HH Gohar Shahi. Therefor, I request you to kindly look into this.--Falconkhe (talk) 07:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Thanks for your quick response. I am not asking you to believe or faith in HH Gohar Shahi is Mehdi or go against MFI & Younas. The point is that younas and MFI are preaching self-made teachings and linked that with HH Gohar Shahi, the truth is that they don't belong to HH Gohar Shahi.

I have nowhere use His Holiness in whole wikipedia but I use His Holyness only in my personal conversation, which shows my feelings & respects towards HH Gohar Shahi. I am not asking you to research upon MFI or Younas but at least you can judge yourself who is saying lie.--Falconkhe (talk) 10:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

For offering your neutral opinions and suggestions on Talk: Imam Mehdi Gohar Shahiand Talk: Messiah Foundation International, it has really helped us make decisions. Whenever you get the time, would you mind offering your thoughts on Talk: The Representative of Gohar Shahi and Talk: RAGS International? They've been subject to the same sort of disagreements between me and Falconkhe, and don't seem to be getting anywhere. I was thinking that, if there is still a problem regarding these pages after a few days of discussion, I will put up an RFC tag. But nonetheless, your opinion on the matter is really appreciated, and thanks again for your helpful contributions. Omi() 06:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

RFC: Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi and associated pages

Hi, regarding the long-running content disputes over articles and pages relating to Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi, I have opened an WP:RFC. Please see: Talk:Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi#RFC: Long-running content disputes. Thanks, Esowteric+Talk 11:58, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

  • There is a no dispute whether Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi actually died, disappeared, or went into "occultation". We believe that he went into Occultation on 25th November 2001. The only organization HE founded was Anjuman Serfroshan-e-Islam and not MFI. Younus has nothing to do with Gohar Shahi, younus is using the name and pictures of Gohar Shahi for his ill-deeds. Through,RAGS International, The Representative of Gohar Shahi & Messiah Foundation International, Younus AlGohar, younus and his companion are using Wikipedia for self promotion of his self-made teachings. So, my point of view is that Younus should stopped on this stage, he shouldn't allow to use wikipedia for his ill-deeds.--Falconkhe (talk) 12:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Kelutviaq

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Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Communities by occupation

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Ahmad Raza Khan Barelvi

Dear Mathew, an article naming Ahmad Raza Khan is under the POV attack, pure sectarian biased has been adopted and such unreal material is been related to Ahmad Raza Khan, am continuously opposing but don't know, the person against is engage in the edit war, please help to restore the article in original position which was finalized previously --Ibne Adhi (talk) 13:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

See WP:BLP/N#1986 Hvalur sinkings. In addition, I direct your attention to WP:GRAPEVINE, of which I will make use if necessary. Hans Adler 22:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I have nominated the empty category for deletion since there is no legitimate article for it. [5] Hans Adler 23:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Sakdalista

Hello! Just wanted to ask about the tag you placed on the Sakdalista article so something can be done about it. What was your specific concern about its tone? Thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.5.70.66 (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

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interesting about Bahá'í Faith in Mongolia

First, of course, congrats. You may know I have an ongoing interest is articles like this. I'm curious what brought your attention to making such a article? Smkolins (talk) 19:19, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah - I see. From my own understanding and reading I was thinking both would be likely contenders but I'd never seen specific info. I have seen other blog entries about how Mongolia was often used as "the farthest end of the world" place and there were Baha'is there. As for if there should be an article... perhaps an article like Only countries with no Bahá'ís and redirect Bahá'ís Faith in Vatican City and Bahá'í Faith in North Korea there and the substance of the article would be a few stats about being widespread, having reached Mongolia which is often considered the most "far away" country, and then the specific info that Vatican City and North Korea are in fact as of (2008? - whatever year for stats) the only places there are no Bahá'ís and why, if it's stated. I think it's quite doable. Smkolins (talk) 10:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
How about something like User:Smkolins/Sandbox ? Smkolins (talk) 14:28, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

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The article Ahrar Party (India) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

It's like advertisement of Ahrar Party.Article should be rewritten.

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Ahrar Party

Hi. Thanks for creating the Ahrar Party (India) article. When googling for material for expansion to it, I came across various sources, enabling the creation of the Sind United Party articles and possibly some more to come. --Soman (talk) 19:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!

Hello, I hope you're doing fine and I sincerely apologize for this intrusion. My name is Claudi Balaguer (User Capsot from the Catalan Wikipedia and Occitan Wikiccionari), I've just read your profile and I would daresay I understood that you like translating from Romance languages (and from Catalan!) so you must be really interested in languages and cultures and maybe I am not bothering you and you will help us... I'm a member of a Catalan association "Amical de la Viquipèdia" which is trying to get some recognition as a Catalan Chapter but this hasn't been approved up to this moment because Catalan is not supported by a state even though our Association is working real hard. We would appreciate your support, visible if you stick this on your first page: Wikimedia CAT. Thanks again/gràcies, I wish you a very nice, warm and pleasant summer, take care! Capsot (talk) 12:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bahá'í Faith in Mongolia

RlevseTalk 12:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)