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Filing report on Engleham at WP:ANI?[edit]

You seem very serious about getting that guy topic-banned. To be honest, I'm fed up with him and his antics, so he must be reported. I'd like to report him, but I already warned him about attacking other editors. --George Ho (talk) 08:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

No, I don't see a need for a topic ban at this stage. I think page protecting and blocking if the personal abuse is over the top is sufficient at this stage. These were his first significant edits in nine months. Happy to wait and see what happens. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 10:23, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
He's blocked for two weeks. As you said, let's wait to see what happens. --Gh87 in the public computer (talk) 21:29, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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It seems every time I go looking for a photo for some Queensland topic, a town hall, a museum, or whatever, I find a Mattinbgn photo! I know you uploaded a lot of them some years ago, so you must have been wondering if you'd wasted your time, but I'm thrilled at the coverage of small town Queensland that you have provided. Many thanks, Kerry! Kerry (talk) 05:54, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I wasn't concerned about wasting my time - I always thought someone would get around to using them for something sooner or later. I still have huge chunks of Queesland to cover yet though. Great work on the Queensland Heritage Register items too, by the way. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 06:34, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Request to use photograph[edit]

Hi Mattinbgn I love your image of the Mt Walsh National Park / mountains, which features on the Wikipedia page titled "Mt Walsh National Park". I am wondering if you would give permission for me to use the image on a website. For more information, feel free to email me direct at <redacted> Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you.

Responded via email - removed email address to avoid spammers. Mattinbgn (talk) 20:07, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Australian Magpie[edit]

Is it possible to downgrade the protection from Australian Magpie? I don't think it is necessary now. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 19:11, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Done! -- Mattinbgn (talk) 19:35, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Burnett River[edit]

Hello. Thank you for editing Burnett River. Would you please be able to add some embedded references? It would also be great to flesh out the subsection about the fish present in this river, if we can find sufficient information... Thank you again, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

I have no access to sources other that general internet searches on this topic, sorry. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 04:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Callide River[edit]

Hi again. Are you interested in creating a page for the Callide River in Queensland? I have very slow internet connection, so I can't look for the right references at the moment. I know you do great work with wikipedia, so I thought I would ask. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:59, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Gender in biographies[edit]

Hi, you reverted my edit which stated the gender of a person. Don't you think it's time to include this crucial information in our biographies? I was reading an article in a newspaper which included the name of Hetty Johnston and I needed to write an article myself in a non-English language. In some non-English languages it's impossible to talk about a person (or even an unanimate thing like a table or a chair, or an abstract thing like a country or an idea) without stating their gender. It's impossible to know the gender of a person from their name, particularly in English. The issue may sound like an non-issue but it is if you write many articles in non-English languages and you have to spend 10 or 20 minutes before writing every article just to find out someone's gender. In some cases for non-famous people it was impossible for me to find out someone's gender and I had to write my non-English article guessing the gender and in more than one ocassion readers who knew the gender of the person I was referring to wrote to me saying I referred to a male as a she (or to a female as a he), but what can one do? In some non-English languages it's also impossible to say something like "gender unknown" because the gender of a person can change most of the words of a whole article, so it's not one could simply include both the male and female forms of one or two words and let the rest of the article be the same, all the words in the whole article have to change according to the gender. As I did some work searching the internet to find it out her gender, I added it to her Wikipedia article. If we don't state the gender of a person in our biographies, the only way this information is conveyed if through the use of "he" or "she" and "his" or "her", but we shouldn't rely on this grammatical feature because it can easility be lost after an editor's re-write or copyedit. Indeed, many times I've checked Wikipedia biographies hoping to see quickly a "he" or a "she" or ideally a photograph in the first paragraphs but in many Wikipedia biographies this doesn't happen, or the much-searched-for "he" or "she" is only included after many paragraphs of text or not at all, and it's prone to be removed by copyediting (or even put there by someone like me who wrongly assumed the gender of someone after failing to find it out by searching on the internet). I think the best way to avoid these problems and make Wikipedia biographies more useful is to include the gender of the person in parentheses after their date of birth, or inside their infobox if the article has one. What do you think? Would you agree with including the gender of people in their biographies and refrain from reverting such edits like mine which include this crucial and much-needed information? You can read more about why the gender of a person is important in the grammatical gender article. Cogiati (talk) 08:31, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

  • You can see another example of an article (not edited by me) which includes the gender of a person (a photographer, I'm also a photographer myself but I also write articles so I have the problem of finding out the gender of a person almost every day and it's really a serious problem for someone having to write many articles every day, don't underestimate what it's like to lose 10+ minutes before writing an article just for finding out the gender of someone!) here: Polixeni Papapetrou in which we read that "Polixeni Papapetrou (born 1960) is a female photographer from Melbourne, Australia." Would you copyedit the article to remove the word "female" in that instance? If not, then why revert an edit introducing the word "female" into another biography where such crucial and much-needed essential biographical information is not included or is only conveyed through the utilization of "she" (or "he") which can easily be lost in other editors' copyedits? We should strive to make Wikipedia more useful rather than less useful, and we do this by including all the information needed by our readers. Cogiati (talk) 08:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
The sex of a subject is certainly important but it should be a little more stylishly introduced than just whacking the term "female" in brackets next to the birth date. More than anything else, it reads like the subject was born female but may no longer be. What you are proposing is a rather significant change to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies and one I would not support. Perhaps take it up on the talk page there -- Mattinbgn (talk) 04:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for all your Queensland war memorial photos. I've been busy adding them to articles. Kerry (talk) 07:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I need to get back up to Queensland with the camera again ... -- Mattinbgn (talk) 08:07, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Townsville or Townsville, Queensland[edit]

There's a proposed move of Category:Townsville to Category:Townsville, Queensland taking place here and I know this issue of primary topic vs disambiguation is usually something you have strong views about. Kerry (talk) 23:03, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Metung Productions vs vanity posts?[edit]

Pardon my ignorance but could you check Metung's subsection on Metung Productions. My knee-jerk reaction is that this is the result of a series of vanity posts. However your expertise in small town articles may see some reason why this article has about 1/3rd of its content on this particular film group. To me the whole section is unreferenced, PoV, poorly written and fairly repetitive: I'm tempted to delete it but I'd like a second opinion. [signed very late, sorry] shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:51, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


How would you rewrite the article in a way that makes sense now that the town no longer formally exists? I am usually a fan of separate articles, and there are plenty of examples where articles on degazetted towns still make sense (i.e. Wittenoom), but I can't see how it makes sense to maintain an article on a tiny town that no longer has a separate identity. What is your objection to merging the content into the Flowerdale article? The Drover's Wife (talk) 03:09, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


You provided a name move and disam page. So instead of a page we now have two and lots of links that need tidying up after ... And other towns of the same naming convention that haven't been moved. Should they ? --Dave Rave (talk) 05:17, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Two things - Firstly, we should always have had two pages - there should have been a redirect from the plain name "Bredbo" to "Bredbo, New South Wales" just as there is now a redirect the other way. As long as there are no double redirects, there is no urgency to "fix" the links - this can be done at someone's leisure. Therefore there is no extra page and also no extra work. Secondly, the naming convention at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Australia applies and clearly Bredbo belongs at its plain, undisambiguated name. Should the other titles similar to this be moved as well? In my view, yes, absolutely - but there is no hurry - so long as redirects from one name to the other exist, readers will find the article they are looking for. Hope this explains my actions. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 06:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Mattinbgn Photo used on Dalby page incorrect[edit]

Hi, As a longtime Dalby resident, I would like to point out that your photo that has been labelled as "Dalby War Memorial 2008" on the Dalby page is actually an obelisk erected to the memory of Joshua Thomas Bell an early MP, pioneer and landholder and is found in Bell Park at the end of Cunningham Street.The War memorial is in Patrick Street near the swimming pool and features a digger on top of a plinth. You might want to edit same.

Scottimac (talk) 07:42, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you - you know that you are allowed to fix it yourself if you wish. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 21:02, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Mattinbgn![edit]

Super 10?[edit]

Hello Mattinbgn, with your knowledge on these matters, I'd like to ask your help/opinion on moving "Super 10 (Southern Hemisphere competition)" page to be the primary topic at Super 10. The peak dates of 1992–97 on Google Books Ngram seems to support it's primacy.

The Super 10 page now just redirects back to it. There is a disambig page at: Super 10 (disambiguation). An Italian tournament also used the name at one time but it is now called the Eccelenza. Is requesting a multiple page move the way to go or would this be a waste of time? Thanks -- Ham105 (talk) 15:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

A multiple page move request at WP:RM would be the way to progress this. Gather your evidence for the move and draft up a move request. I am happy to take a look at it before you post it, if you like. Be aware that there may be some discussion about a merge with Super Rugby, although that was different altogether. Good luck! -- Mattinbgn (talk) 00:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Hopefully nothing is missing in the code below. -- Ham105 (talk) 17:03, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Australian poems category[edit]

I'm replying to your edit of the Banjo Paterson poem "Clancy of the Overflow", as I'm a bit confused about the correct approach to poems of this sort.

I added the "Australian poems" category to the page a day or so back only for it to be reverted by user Michael Bednarek who stated "Category:Australian poems is parent to Category:Poetry by Banjo Paterson". I believe the implication is that as the poem is listed under "Category:Poetry by Banjo Paterson" it isn't required to be listed under "Category:Australian poems" as that would amount to a duplication.

As I have a number of other poems that fit this category (along with others by Henry Lawson) I'd like to standardise the approach to avoid an "edit-war". Any thoughts? Perry Middlemiss (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

In fact, user JackOfOz is reverting all the category additions now. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 21:14, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]


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A beer for you![edit]

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FLRC for List of Zimbabwe national cricket captains[edit]

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