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chart sources[edit]

tsort.info and the Euro200 are not acceptable charts. Both are listed at WP:BADCHARTS. Also, I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish when you say "refname='{{cite web..." inside a singlechart call. Singlechart creates the reference, and the name is an identifying string, not the text of the reference.—Kww(talk) 16:30, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok then. I was not aware of that. I will remove them as soon as I can.--Mαuri’96...over the Borderline” 16:37, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

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hi,,,,can you help[edit]

I noticed your in the best selling album page,,,,,,,,Michael Jackson history past present and future was taken out,,, I put up a cite for 20 mil.,,,for someone to edit but no one has done anything, ,,,can you help,,,,,thanks--65.8.190.47 (talk) 13:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


by the way,,,,if you need more citation I can get more,,,thank you again,,

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Whats your problem????[edit]

If Mediatrafic used sales and airplay, ai se eu te pego isnt sold 7.2 million but 3.014.000 check this http://www.mediatraffic.de/tracks-2012.htm

Please do not undo my edits they are correct,if you do not believe the problem is not my — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoreMoneyGomes (talkcontribs) 00:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

You are wrong. The 7.2 million for "Ai Se Eu te Pego!" is directly from IFPI itself. You can see the official sales report on page 12 of the 2013 IFPI Report.
mediatraffic.de is considered a "bad chart" on Wikipedia, one that cannot be used. It is also listed as one of the chart websites to avoid.--Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 00:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Buzzjack[edit]

Hey, I know we use that list of the top 200 best-selling singles from Buzzjack and say it's a reliable source. Does that mean anything from Buzzjack can be considered reliable? What I'm referring to is this; I was checking the sources provided by the person who wanted "Raise Your Glass" included on the list of best-selling singles; is this topic reliable? (If not, that really sucks for Pink because I added up the certifications + the actual US sales and without the UK sales, it's at 4.98 million. So close, yet so far) politoed89/austin 20:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

First off, I can't see the page you posted because it's a members-only post.
Second, not necessarily. The reason we use that particular top 200 best-selling singles list is that it gets updated nearly every week and its numbers match the ones posted at reliable sources such as Chart Watch. When I say "the Buzzjack list is a reliable source" I mean that particular list, not everything posted on the Buzzjack website.
I'll do what I can to locate UK sales for "Raise Your Glass" at musicweek. --Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 21:16, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Central American certifications[edit]

Hi Mauri96! I left a message at Talk:List of music recording certifications#Central America certifications and was wondering if you could help me find the certification standards for Central America and the certifying authority for it. Thanks. Erick (talk) 21:30, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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BAD BY MICHAEL JACKSON is listed twice on BEST SELLING ALBUM LIST[edit]

Hi I thought you should know some "mal-informed" being, has placed MJ's BAD album twice on the best selling album list, I would've changed it but I don't have semi-protected edit right.,,,,,,,,,thanks,,,,--65.8.187.217 (talk) 10:01, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Use of subterfuge to bypass edit filter[edit]

You were blocked from making a change using atrl.net three times( [1][2][3]). You obviously figured out that it was objecting to you linking to the forrums at atrl.net because you inserted a space to trick the filter. You've been around here long enough to know that you cannot use forums as sources. You got a great big error message that said

when you tried it. Yet, instead of doing following our sourcing policies, you cheated to get your data into the article. Don't do that again.—Kww(talk) 03:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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Music Box Mariah Carey[edit]

There are several Third Party Reliable sources that assures the 32 million seller from a very highly prestigious stages than inguisiter.com:

fidelovkurt 02:24, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

In addition to the Emancipation of Mimi, All the claimed sales are based on certifications... Actual sales are normally as higher as 30% to 40% of their total certified Unitsfidelovkurt 03:28, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Not done: The fact remains that as late as 2001 Sony Music China confirmed the album had only sold 25 million copies worldwide.
Furthermore, mediatraffic/Guillaume Viera estimate only 26 million copies sold. This is in line with available sales+certifications of 18.6 million worldwide (19.6 million if Korean sales were included).
Also, I suggest you take a look at MariahJournal's worldwide sales estimates for Mariah Carey's album discography. Keep in mind that despite being a fansite, incorporating official and estimated actual sales, and having an obvious conflict of interest, they still manage to estimate worldwide sales of 26 million for Music Box
Out the four sources you listed:
- The fourth is copied line-by-line, table-by-table from Wikipedia.
- The first is a self-published source, and the exception for "established expert on the subject matter" does not apply as Mr. Afansieff is a producer and not a record company insider or unaffiliated chart researcher (like Guillame Viera, for example).
- The second source may be reliable, although its publisher, Soul Culture Media, is not notable enough to have an article.
- The third source is not so reliable, at least when it comes to record sales, as evidenced by this discussion.
Finally, both Mariah Carey's official website (an unreliable, impartial, & promotional source) and The Huffington Post claim 30 million copies,
Regarding The Emancipation of Mimi, its available certified sales are less than 8 million worldwide. Given how recently it was released, it is impossible it sold any more than double its certified sales. Case in point, mediatraffic/Guillaume Viera and MariahJournal estimate 9 million and 9.2 million copies sold, respectively.--Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 07:07, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
First, Mariah Daily journal Is NOT allowed to get used as a reliable source cause its a fansite, Second Sony Music as well isn't allowed to used cause it might be used within OR against the Artist based or their relation with the Artist himself, Sony in its late decade end report DEFLATED the actual sales of Mariah Carey after the separation from Carey's EX HUSBAND.

So The Artists' fansites, Music Labels and the Artist's website itself isn't allowed to be mentioned in the actual sales or certification mounts fidelovkurt 16:04, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I know Mariah Daily Journal is not a reliable source, that is why I removed all the Music Box certifications the list of best-selling had from that website.
I DID say "I suggest you take a look at", not "we should use it as a reference". I wanted to highlight the fact that despite them being fans, who would no doubt appreciate it if their favorite artist sold 30 million copies (or more) of a given album, they still estimated a worldwide sales figure lower than that.--Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 19:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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List of best-selling girl groups[edit]

In Best-selling girl groups section, they count albums and single sales so Girls' Generation and 2NE1 should not be on the list. Their sales are around 5-6 million. 35 million are digital sales. sorry for my bad eng T^T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.4.143.197 (talk) 16:05, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Downloads are singles. They're just a different format/medium for the same original concept: a song that is released for sale and sent to radio, usually to promote an upcoming album.
Excluding these sales would result in an outdated list that is biased against recent groups and would not take into account the fact that almost all popular musicians and groups don't sell that many albums anymore.--Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 18:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I am very close to rolling it back to about 20 edits ago - the single table of sales was fine, because there is no difference between a physical or digital sale when it comes to the "best selling" total. --Sagaciousuk (talk) 13:48, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
I've been listening to what some of the people on the 'other side' of the argument think, and I'm starting to realize they may have a point when it comes to $0.03 Korean digital sales being difficult to compare to much more expensive albums or "$20 CD singles". It is also worth noting that kpop fans acknowledge this makes for unfair comparisons with older artists.
All in all, I now agree with these two netizens that making separate lists for digital and physical sales allows for more meaningful or 'valid' comparison between the sales, and ultimately success of different girl groups. --Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 07:14, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
The only reason they are cheaper over there is because the industry's way of addressing piracy was to lower the sale cost of the music. The money there is made from promotion and endorsements, rather than music sales. It's a different economy. The article is an arbitrary list of raw sales per artist, which shouldn't matter if the music was sold for 1 cent or $1000. --Sagaciousuk (talk) 12:14, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
To be fair, as you may already know, I did repeatedly try to keep everything on one list, but to no avail. I think the current arrangement is an effective compromise (at least for the time being). In fact, it's how the List of best-selling singles currently operates. --Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 03:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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best selling album,,,shakira,,laundry service[edit]

hi maury, I thought the reference for laundry service at 20 million from "UPI", was good, what was wrong with it, btw I could find another reference to bolster the claim,,,,,,,,,,,thanks,,,--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

I left the above message for you some time ago but have not heard since??,,,,,,--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for not answering earlier. I may have initially confused Laundry Service for Ray of Light, which was removed from the list due to a discussion about its sales.
The album has received too few certifications relative to the year it was released to support sales claims of 20 million, regardless. Please see this discussion for more info.--Mαuri’96everything and nothing always haunts me…” 20:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hi! Would you care to review my FA nomination for the article Of Human Feelings? The article is about a jazz album by Ornette Coleman, and the criteria for FA articles is at WP:FACR. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Cheers! Dan56 (talk) 20:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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