User talk:Mcelite

Leopard as an Urban animal

Thanks for closely watching the Leopard article. However, I disagree with designating leopards in general as urban animal. If your claim, that in South Africa the leopard is an "urban animal" and a pest, then please do put the article on that subspecies African leopard in to the category. However, even then, it is good if you have a viable reference quoted. I am reverting your edit on Leopard ..sorry Ritigala Jayasena (talk) 04:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

African American-Native American marriage

Thanks for the compliment on the Black Indians article. I do not yet know of any specific contemporary books dealing with this direct issue; most work on African-Native American interaction deals with historical intermarriage and associations between the two groups (e.g. William Loren Katz). In the case of African American-Native American marriage, African Americans with Native American ancestry tend marry other Black Indians of similar ancestry rather than a full-blooded Native person. This can add to the complexity. (See http://www.mixedheritagecenter.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1210&Itemid=34 for that discussion.) I am sure there is some literature dealing with modern discussion on the issue; I just haven't found it yet. If you need anything else, please leave another message. Best of luck on your article. Let me know if you have any ideas for any of my work. Until next time! Mappychris (talk) 17:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)mappychris

Dinosaur size changes

Hi Mcelite,

Why are you adjusting the respective sizes of Spinosaurus, Giganotosaurus, and Tyrannosaurus? We get a lot of editors who switch the already-referenced numbers around, but the references in Dinosaur size confirm that Tyrannosaurus was neither the longest nor the most massive theropod. These are only estimates, but they are based mostly on peer-reviewed papers and studies of the fossils. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester 07:53, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

here is the link to the T. rex third finger discovery. Best, Firsfron of Ronchester 08:34, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it was pretty surprising to everyone. Firsfron of Ronchester 23:50, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Dinosaur sizes

Hey Mcelite. I'm not sure what you mean when you frequently refer to people "declaring officially" the largest theropod. These things are not declared, estimates are given in various studies based on fossil evidence. All studies since its discovery have recognized Giganotosaurus as larger than Tyrannosaurus. Period. Some specimens that might be larger have been found. However, when these have been actually studied and published on, they were not found to be even as large as Sue. Some, like C-Rex, might be larger, but might not. We won't know until the finds are prepared and studied, and it's not our job as an encyclopedia to speculate about or discuss these finds until the real scientists are able and willing to give official opinions. Spinosaurus was usually ignored when saying which was biggest, but as the article states, it was known to be longer than 45ft even as far back as the 1960s. The new finds in the last three years have simply confirmed this. Every study since has found Spinosaurus to be the largest theropod. Unless new evidence comes to light to disprove this (maybe it had no tail, or was full of helium?), this must be considered official by any serious encylcopedia. Of course there's room for speculation and criticism of these studies, but that must be done on personal web sites, not on Wikipedia. The cites are our foundation. Changing the numbers for information that is backed up by a published source, as it seems you've done, is unethical at best. If you have data points that you think contradict what's in the articles, that's great, but please discuss them before you make changes. Dinoguy2 (talk) 01:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mcelite,

I'm going to back up Dinoguy's comment above and give you the statistics:

• Spinosaurus: estimates suggest that it was around 16 to 18 meters in length (52.5 to 59.1 ft) and 9 tonnes (9.9 tons) in weight. The paper is: dal Sasso, C.; Maganuco, S.; Buffetaut, E.; and Mendez, M.A. (2005). "New information on the skull of the enigmatic theropod Spinosaurus, with remarks on its sizes and affinities". Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 25 (4): 888-896. doi:10.1671/0272-4634(2005)025%5B0888:NIOTSO%5D2.0.CO;2.
• Giganotosaurus: The largest specimen is estimated to represent an individual 13.2 m (43.3ft) long, that weighed 6.2 tons. The estimate comes from Mortimer, M. (2004), "Carnosauria", The Theropod Database, viewed September 17, 2007. http://home.myuw.net/eoraptor/.
• Carcharodontosaurus: Grew to an estimated 11.1-13.5 meters (36-44 feet) and weighed up to 2.9 metric tons. The sources are Mortimer, M. (2003), "And the Largest Theropod Is....", discussion group, The Dinosaur Mailing List, viewed July 21, 2003. http://dml.cmnh.org/ and Bervoets, F. (2007), "DinoData", viewed September 17, 2007. http://www.dinodata.org/.
• Deltadromeus: measured an estimated 8.1-~13.3 m (26.5-~43.6 ft) long. The source is Mortimer, M. (2004), "Carnosauria", The Theropod Database, viewed September 17, 2007. http://home.myuw.net/eoraptor/.
• Tyrannotitan: up to 13.7 metres or 45.6 feet long. The source is: Novas, de Valais, Vickers-Rich and Rich. (2005). "A large Cretaceous theropod from Patagonia, Argentina, and the evolution of carcharodontosaurids." Naturwissenschaften.
• Tyrannosaurus: grew up to 12-13 m (39.3-42.6 ft) long and weighed 6-8 tons. The papers are: Brochu, C.R. 2003. Osteology of Tyrannosaurus rex: insights from a nearly complete skeleton and high-resolution computed tomographic analysis of the skull. Memoirs of the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology. 7: 1-138, Christiansen, P. & Fariña, R.A. 2004. "Mass prediction in theropod dinosaurs." Historical Biology 16: 85-92, and Henderson, D.M. 1999. "Estimating the masses and centers of mass of extinct animals by 3-D mathematical slicing". Paleobiology 25: 88–106.

These estimates indicate that Spinosaurus was both the longest and most massive theropod dinosaur known, and that Tyrannosaurus was only the third longest and sixth most massive theropod. These numbers are listed at Dinosaur size, with the sources in place. New sources may come out which give different figures. Until they do, these are the numbers we've got. When possible, we try to use papers published in peer-reviewed scientific journals so that the numbers are as accurate as possible. Few of the skeletons are complete, but we're going with numbers published outside of Wikipedia.

When you change the numbers around, or begin to speculate on which ones could be larger, you go from being an encyclopedia editor to an adder of speculative material. This may be fine on a personal website, but cannot be used on Wikipedia because of the no original research policy.

If you have better sources for the sizes (preferably from peer-reviewed journals), please provide them, either here or on talk:Dinosaur size. It should be our goal to provide the best sources of information for our readers, and none of these numbers is set in stone. But none of these estimates were published by Wikipedia editors, which is why your changes have been continually reverted: it appears the material added is your own speculation. Firsfron of Ronchester 08:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey Mcelite, no worries. As far as I know, Gig and the largest known T. rex were about the same hip height, 3-3.5m, but nobody really publishes these kind of estimates because height depends entirely on the posture of the legs and back, which of course was incredibly variable (that is, nobody knows what stance was 'neutral' for these animals). I agree that there's no good evidence Gig was more massive than Rex, but we need to report the full range of published estimates... which happen to be exactly the same for each species. Various good studies have posited between 6 and 8 tonnes max size for both, so that's what we report. Dinoguy2 (talk) 02:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Notability

Articles on Wikipedia must be notable, or in short, they must have been the subject of several reliable, verifiable secondary sources. For instance, an article on Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is notable since it has been the subject of several secondary sources (interviews concerning development, reviews from several video game publications). Conversely, an article on my old dog is not notable, as he hasn't been the subject of any significant type of secondary sources. There are some specific notability requirements for certain types of articles (books, people, organizations and companies), and for your purposes, this is Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). To avoid a confusing diatribe on the matter, in short, if you can find information on Kishimoto's conception and development of Ino (why he created the character, what thought went into appearance, personality, abilities, whatever) or reception from other sources (critical reception on her specifically, merchandise released), then you would have a much stronger case for having an article on her. If any of this is confusing, as it inevitably is, feel free to ask me for clarification on my talk page. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 05:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

If such information was easily found, then she would have an article right now. Merchandise can be found by checking Viz Media's site, or Amazon.com. Critical reception can be found from a variety of sources, so long as the source satisfies WP:RS and WP:V. For instance, you can use an article from the Los Angeles Times or IGN, but not one from a Naruto fansite. Anyhow, it would be best if you created the article in your userspace, and then inquire at Talk:List of major Naruto characters or another related page whether your efforts are enough to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). As for the userspace issue, start the page at User:Mcelite/Sandbox. There, you can work at the page at your leisure: consider it your personal workspace for making the article until it's ready. Best of luck. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 03:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Ino Yamanaka

I made some edits and added some references in the text. I would grateful if you help me with sorting them and editing source code! U is for Uppermind (talk) 05:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Category:Americans of Native American descent

Please read Wikipedia's policies concerning verifiability and reliable sources. You can't put articles into categories, including Category:Americans of Native American descent, without reliable sources that indicate the the categorization is accurate. Whether the categorization is "negative, positive, or just questionable", it is supposed to be removed from articles about living people. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 06:05, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I saw that you added Rosa Parks and James Earl Jones a few days ago. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 08:41, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm very sorry. You're right, their articles do discuss their Native heritage. Sorry. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 08:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

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"Tired of Crazy Edits" :)

Hi Mcelite,

FYI, adding a {{pp-semi-protected|small=yes}} tag to an article does not do anything to prevent vandalism. If you think an article should be semi-protected so that only established users can edit it, please make a request at Wikipedia: Requests for page protection. If an administrator agrees with you that semi-protection is needed then they will semi-protect the page and add the tag. Cheers, Kla’quot (talk | contribs) 07:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Aaliyah

Hi! It's nearly impossible to get unregistered user to stop fiddling with record sales figures. I don't know what it is, but just about every record article has that problem. Anyway, I only found two sources. They appear to be reliable so you can take your pick.

• Source #1: Surge
• Source #2: Just Soul

They don't seem to be scraped from Wikipedia so they might be ok to use. I suggest throwing the word "approximate" in there. Figures change all the time which is why it's so hard to find a concrete source for that. Hope that helps! :) Pinkadelica (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

"Race" vandal

This user...User:ELNUMERO1...is a problem, as addressed by me in this on his or her talk page. Keep a look out for this vandal, who has a serious "race" issue. I know that you've come across this vandal before. If he or she strikes one more time, I'm definitely seeking out to get this vandal blocked. But I really feel that this one needs to be banned. Flyer22 (talk) 09:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Just letting you know that this vandal was finally permanently blocked. Flyer22 (talk) 17:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Alexa Woods

I only gave it a very brief rewrite. It had too many fair-use images for such a short article, and only one was really needed. Plus the one where she is killing an Alien was from the making-of, not the movie. I plan to go through and dicect the plot and add a little more about her.LordJesseD (talk) 15:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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African-Native Americans

While wandering around the web, I came across this page, which I thought might be of interest to you. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 19:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Athletics at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Women's 100 metres

Hi there. I saw that you edited the aforementioned page regarding Torri Edwards' "false start". I have slightly altered the information there, and just wanted to give you a heads up. Orane (talk) 05:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I see that you have also added the information to other pages. I've explained both sides of the issue on each page. Orane (talk) 06:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the information that you put down was very biased as you didn't even seek to address the possible reasons the race was not recalled. I don't want the issue to become too personal, but I will say that it's a shame that they (including you) are sore losers. If America had made a clean sweep, no one would have been complaining. It pains you all that another country beat you, and it's quite a pity. Hopefully your golden boy Michael Phelps is clean. And hopefully his win by a nanosecond is also legit. By the way, a Jamaican actually had the second slowest reaction time in the 100m race. She still came in second. If Edwards wanted to win, she should have run faster...Orane (talk) 14:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, true. Kerron Stewart said that she thought that a false start had been committed. But there was no false start, as indicated by the reaction times. Honestly, the winner clocked 10.78. She definitely would have won. It's unfortunate that Edwards lost her concentration. But don't blame the Jamaicans. Williams didn't detect any false start, and she also finished poorly. But whatever. There wasn't a false start, and the results are effective until next Olympics. Let's not bother ourselves, please. Orane (talk) 02:28, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh no, it's fine. Just like the World Cup, I always get heated over sports (especially track, my favourite). It's all friendly banter. And I look forward to the showdown next Olympics. Actually, how about World Champs next year? Orane (talk) 14:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Croquette ‎and sources

There appears to be a dispute regarding the sourcing of the Croquette article. Would you mind making a comment on the talk page and explain what constitutes a reliable source? JBsupreme (talk) 07:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Cheetah

I just noticed this edit and was curious to know why you thought my edits were vandalism. The only possible thing I could see was that I accidently changed cītā to cita. That was probably done by dumping the page into a text editor to do some search and replacing but would have been accidental. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 03:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

OK thanks. I was a bit confused there. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 15:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Stacey Dash

A citation is not needed that she is African American, no more than a citation is needed for Whoopi Goldberg or bi-racial actress Halle Berry being included in the African American category (though their articles do have mentions/citations of their ethnicity). Besides that, there are plenty of valid references that state that Dash is African American, but I do not feel like mentioning that she is African American in her article, in the same way that it is not mentioned in Brad Pitt's article that he is Caucasian. Yes, there is a picture in Brad Pitt's article, and a lot of people would say that that displays his ethnicity, but still... If I were to include a screenshot of Stacey Dash from Clueless in her article to "prove" that she is African American, that does not take away from the fact that she is of other ethnicity as well. Simply mentioning that she is African American is not taking into account the other parts of heritage. Is only having her in the African American category doing the same? Well, her being African American is an undisputed fact, while the other parts of her ethnicity need valid sources before she can be included in those categories. Flyer22 (talk) 20:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I responded, of course, on my talk page to your reply to me. Flyer22 (talk) 21:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

If you have not noticed yet, and as I stated on my talk page, I added a more valid source that not only states her African American heritage, but also confirms her West Indian and Aztec heritage (the parts of her heritage that you also wanted acknowledged). It's her Variety.com biography. I'm not sure whether Variety is copying a few less valid sites on this matter, since it does not attribute any other source to that information, but Variety itself is a very valid source/site and I'm going with them on this. It is not our job to question whether or not they copied another site. If that article were to state that they did and that site that they copied was not valid, then it would be our job to question that, as well as discard using it.

I also added back the extra categories to her article that you had added, considering that I reverted to that edit of mine and yours combined, except with the more valid reference I mentioned above. Flyer22 (talk)

Coming back to say that I do know where Variety got its source from. It says it comes from inbaseline.com, which I saw but did not know exactly what it meant and only clicked on it some minutes ago. Hmm, does this mean it's like Internet Movie Database (IMDb)? It seems to be more so for solely agents, cast, crew, actors/actresses and other important people in the entertainment industry to submit information about themselves/projects. If we cannot trust these people about their own lives, then why trust other sources about their lives who did not even ask them?

This source seems to be where all those other sites, valid and not so valid, copied some or all of this information. I kind of give up, if we should discard this source. I mean, there are hardly even valid online sources stating her as African American, and that goes for a lot of actors and actresses of any ethnicity. The big news organizations are usually not that pressed to state the ethnicity of actors/actresses and other entertainers. But, really, there is a valid source in Dash's article which talks about her brother having the first publicly traded African American-owned internet company. That's confirmation right there of her African American heritage, unless we are to assume that they are not blood-related or half siblings...where one has African American heritage but the other does not. Flyer22 (talk) 23:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I responded again on my talk page, of course. Flyer22 (talk) 03:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

If someone removes that she is African American, like had been removed for 2 months now, could you make sure to revert that (like I did just now)? For her other heritage to have been there but not her African American heritage is beyond off. Flyer22 (talk) 03:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for saying that you will look out for that a bit closer now. Flyer22 (talk) 22:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Megalyn Echikunwoke

Hi, I noticed you undid the link I added on Megalyn Echikunwoke. It seems I keyed it in wrong (two http://s). Anyway, here is the legit link.

http://www.popentertainment.com/echikunwoke.htm

If you think it is worth using, because it does seem to confirm the fact as requested, feel free to put it back. If you don't think it should be there, no harm, no foul, it can be left out. I'm kind of new at this and still learning the rules. Thanks!

MrHire01 (talk) 19:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Meagan Good

If I were you, I wouldn't even worry about the comments on the Meagan Good page. It was good that you answered (I was about to...in a not so nice way), but I highly doubt the person that posted the initial complaint will even follow up. I find those kind of arguments more offensive and racist than the real racist vandalism some articles actually get. Pinkadelica ^{Say it...} 07:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

As you can see on the article's talk page, the only agenda was to bitch and moan and call people racists. That's all it was ever about. I changed the content yesterday and as far as Ward3001, me and the other editors that weighed in are concerned, it's over. You have done an excellent job of referencing and rewriting that article, so don't even worry about one self admitted instigator. Pinkadelica ^{Say it...} 05:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

African American

Hi. When more than one editor is removing your material with the explanation that it's off-topic, maybe you should consider that it may be off-topic.

Also, keep in mind WP:3RR. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 18:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi. It turns out that one of the editors who kept deleting the material was a sockpuppet of

Fclass, who (as you know) has been banned. I've restored it since nobody else has discussed it on the Talk page. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 19:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Kerry Washington‎

Thanks for fixing my screw-up -- I lost track of which was the correct date and should have checked the source, doh! – ukexpat (talk) 15:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Jada Pinkett Smith

Looks like you were right about Pinkett Smith being "mixed" - according to this new article, she is "Of West Indian, Creole and Portuguese-Jewish descent". All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Slavery of Native Americans

Looks like you have a reference issue with #6, good article. Cliffsteinman (talk) 05:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

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Virginia Indians

I noticed you changed the term "Virginia Indian" back to "Native American" on the Pocahontas page here and I changed it back. I was the one that changed it originally as the tribes in Virginia actually prefer Virginia Indian overall as evidenced by its use in the citation I put when making the change. I also happen to live in Virginia and have a job where I talk about the Virginia tribes. As such I am in a position to know that the tribes in this area have said they prefer that term. I just figured I'd let you know so that you realize it was changed for a reason. This of course only applies to the Virginia tribes as elsewhere other tribes may have different preferences when it comes to the terminology, or no preference at all. Sarah1607 (talk) 01:50, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mcelite- I understand terminology is a sensitive topic and ran into similar issues on the Native American article. There are many who prefer American Indian, and it doesn't appear that a consensus has really arisen for Native American. I did read one of Sarah's references in the Nansemond article, which is a lengthy statement by the Council on Virginia Indians (published by the Commonwealth of VA), made up of representatives of state-recognized tribes. They have said "Virginia Indian" is their preference, unless the specific tribal name is used. So, I think it's not a bad idea to use what they want, although it may be hard to please everyone and hard for non-Indians to keep up.--Parkwells (talk) 19:39, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Pocahontas

Regarding this edit, yes, seriously. MOS:QUOTE states, "Preserve the original text, spelling, and punctuation." I learned that one in elementary school. 98.248.33.198 (talk) 17:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Conservation and Reintroduction programs of Australia

G'day Mcelite,

Almost every accredited zoo in Australia participates in “in situ” and “ex situ” conservation with big cats, the major zoo’s that do this are,

• Australia Zoo
• Taronga Zoo
• Taronga Western Plains Zoo
• Melbourne Zoo

Most sponsor overseas programs for habitat protection and re introduction programs that are run and organised by the host country, On that note Australia Zoo is leading the way with there Sumatran tiger program having donated millions of dollars to habitat protection and providing ranger vehicles and training.

Accreditation is by way of joining the Australasian Regional Association of Zoological Parks and Aquaria [1] that website will provide you with all the information you require on our conservation programs.

Due to very strict biosecurity controls Australia is not permitted to re-introduce animals into the wild at this point in time (there are rare exceptions that can be found on the ARAZPA Website) from our own breeding programs (this changes depending on how ARAZPA and the Government feel at the time)

Most zoos in Australia are limited to the main big cat species like Lions, Bengal and Sumatran Tigers and Cheetahs. At present Australia Zoo is beginning a breeding program with some recently imported Sumatran Tigers that in the next 10 – 15 years will hopefully produce viable offspring that will be able to be re-introduced into the wild.

I only know of one person in Australia who has investigated the possibility of re-wildling some of our excess lion stock however that is mere theory at this time.

Your best bet is to speak to an ARAZPA staff member who could provide you with more specifics.

Regards ZooPro 13:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

My zoo recently did an experiment with our 4 Cheetahs, we asked the local police to help us clock the speed of our cheetahs running on a 500m track the top speed we achieved was 100km/h, I would go with a top Speed of 120kmph as Dr Luarie Marker (The Cheetah Stubbook Keeper)once told me in a very long and indepth e-mail that she has recorded them at 120km/h to 124km/h in ideal conditions. Ill have a good think and discuss it with some other professionals and will get back to you with my definitive answer.

In reference to your problems with genetic inbreeding thats a global problem, We are lucky in Australia to have a few zoos with plently of new animals coming into the country. Lions are a major genetic bottleneck though here, i know of a zoo that has 50 animals that are all related to each other (yet ironicaly not related to any other animal in the county).

The problem with releasing captive animals into the wild is a major one, like i was saying i only know one young man who was exploring the possability of it, however due to the small minds of some of out Zoo Directors he was forced to resign and no longer works in the industry.

Do you work in a Zoo or with Captive Big Cats?

Regards ZooPro 15:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Zoo

Please consider joining WP:ZOO i am in desperate need of members. Regards ZooPro 01:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

RE: Native American categories for Beyonce Knowles

No friend, Beyonce is an African American woman who happens to have some Native American heritage. What you call "full descent," regarding African Americans, isn't relevant. Categories that you wish to add, such as Native American singers, don't belong on the page. There is a category on the article titled American of Native American descent; that is an accurate category that belongs on the page, and that is what should stay. Surelyhuman (talk) 21:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I suppose an administrative ruling is going to have to be the deciding factor here, because I don't agree with your notion, and you don't agree with mine. It is your opinion that the categories should be added the article, in the same way as it is my opinion that they should not. The issue of diversity you mentioned is not ignored; as I've said, there is a category on the article page title Americans of Native American descent and that is an appropriate category; descent being the keyword, meaning some. I myself detect much bias from you, being that you insist on adding Native American categories to the articles of every African American person you can find. The categories you wish to add denote a complete Native American person; they do not denote some partial heritage like you say, and like the category I mentioned earlier does. Beyonce will never be identified as a Native American person. She is always identified as African American. Beyonce herself always says "African American" or "Black" when she speaks of her ethnicity. An Americans of Native American descent category is acknowledgment and should be sufficient. However, Native American actors, Native American models, Native American musicians, Native American singers, and Native American songwriters (all categories you wish to add) are all greatly pushing it overboard. She is not Native American. She is African American. Also, please don't declare me "unwikipedian"; such labels are exploitative, and attempts shouldn't be made to use them to our advantage during disagreements. Nor should you try to increase the magnitude of your issue, I've seen no editors other than yourself and I who are concerned with this. I've reported our dispute to administration. That report can be found here, at the administrative noticeboard for disputes such as this. Surelyhuman (talk) 05:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes Melite you do have a huge bias as you insist on adding Native American categories to several, several articles of African American people, and as an American I do find it offensive. Ludacris is black. Apparently you don't know that. But don't listen to me, listen to him:

I'm black and proud, I'm black and loud, I'm black and high

And it really means the world to me

if I live my life, stay black and die -- Ludacris; "What Means The World To You (Remix)" Lyrics

Beyonce is an African American woman, period. But don't listen to me, listen to her:

Link "For me to be a young woman, an African American woman..." @ 2:45.

I make no contradictions; you're wrong. Apparently, you also don't know what an African American person is. I needn't speak of any drops of non-black heritage; that doesn't change that she's African American. There aren't any "Native" traits that are "clearly" seen in her. What a ridiculous statement. Surelyhuman (talk) 11:23, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't bother to speak of Della Reese because I don't know who she is, although I am quite certain that I could also find examples of her expressing that she is apparently black. Wait, I've found one already. [2] The title of her 21st album is Black is Beautiful. Point made. Anyway, I don't have a problem with Ludacris or Della Reese or anyone being of Native blood (do try to make accurate statements about other editors), nor am I threatened by this; I just have a problem with the way you're trying to treat this. Surelyhuman (talk) 17:40, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Black Indians Photo

Things looks more complex than I thought. The image is in several archives but the Denver Public Library (Western History Collection, X-30541) has completely different information about the image than the Oklahoma Historical Society has. There doesn't seem to be a stable URL, but you can go here and enter "Chapman Cheyenne" and this photograph will be the second image to show up.

I can't distinguish 19th century Ute and Cheyenne beadwork and clothing by sight, but I can take this image to people more knowledgeable to find out which caption is more likely to be correct. -Uyvsdi (talk) 05:04, 5 January 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Just heard back from my friend who belongs to Southern Plains tribes but grew up on a Great Basin reservation: "Just looked at the pic on my bb and those women have cheyenne mocs on. That is NOT ute beadwork. Also, I'm not positive, but I don't think utes ever wore drops from their belts w/studs like that. I'd say they were cheyennes. I'll show the pic to my mom w/the captions to double check." Very interesting! Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 22:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Blood quantum laws

Thanks for your comment - it's a complex subject, that's for sure.--Parkwells (talk) 15:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Queen Latifah

You've been warned before for disruptively removing categories. Stop doing it. Fences&Windows 17:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

An article whose AFD you participated in a year ago, is nominated again

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_BattleMechs_(2nd_nomination)#List_of_BattleMechs

• I am contacting everyone who participated in the AFD last year for this, since its the same issue all over again. Dream Focus 22:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Slavery among the Indigenous people of the Americas

Hi. Afraid your recent cut, paste and redirect of Indian slavery to the above new article title has left behind all of the edit history (and the same occurred with the accompanying talk page). If the article was to be placed under another title, it needs to be WP:MOVEd instead to preserve the edit history; see also WP:HISTMERGE for the reasons why. A {{db-histmerge}} tag is now placed on it to add to the queue to be repaired, so NFA required in this instance; but pls follow WP:MOVE in any future case. Regards, --cjllw ʘ TALK 14:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

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I an getting a bit tired of you simply reverting and replacing this picture without discussion, please do not do it again. Off2riorob (talk) 22:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Also don't remove the prod without addressing thew issues. Off2riorob (talk) 23:00, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cheetah. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful, then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. I am sorry to warn you however I think the edit warring has gone to far with the article. I would request you bring it to the attention of ANI. I am however compelled to caution you against constant reverts, I have stayed out of it for a while but now feel intervention is required. My apologies as I consider you an excellent editor. ZooPro 01:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

You have not provided any reasoning behind your blanket statement that the article is written in American English. I on the other hand have provided my reasons. Please explain. Plow76 (talk) 19:17, 15 December 2010 (UTC)plow76

Please refer to the notice I have left on your page Plow76, this will answer your question. I also find it rather odd that you are claiming you have done nothing wrong yet have removed multiple messages from your talk page from other users regarding this issue elswhere. Kind Regards ZooPro 03:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

WPA Slave Narratives

My friend just told me that the WPA slave narratives are online through Project Gutenberg. They're a fascinating read and many of the Freedmen are Native as well. Might be useful for your research. Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 18:17, 31 December 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

The link above is for Arkansas, here's Oklahoma. -Uyvsdi (talk) 18:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

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Aaliyah (1979-2001) was an American recording artist, actress and model. At age 12, Aaliyah signed with Jive Records and Blackground Records by her uncle, Barry Hankerson. He introduced her to R. Kelly, who became her mentor, as well as lead songwriter and producer of her debut album, Age Ain't Nothing but a Number. The album sold three million copies in the United States and was certified double platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America. After facing allegations of an illegal marriage with Kelly, Aaliyah ended her contract with Jive and signed to Atlantic Records. Aaliyah worked with record producers Timbaland and Missy Elliott for her second album, One in a Million; it sold 3.7 million copies in the United States and over eight million copies worldwide. In 2000, Aaliyah appeared in her first major film, Romeo Must Die. After completing Romeo Must Die, Aaliyah filmed her part in Queen of the Damned. She released her third and final album, Aaliyah, in July 2001. On August 25, 2001, Aaliyah and eight others were killed in an airplane crash in The Bahamas after filming the music video for the single "Rock the Boat". Since then, Aaliyah's music has achieved commercial success with several posthumous releases. She has been credited for helping redefine R&B and hip hop, earning her the nickname "Princess of R&B". (more...)

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

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Relevance

Please read the content of the section, and not just its title. In what way do Black Indians and multiracial Americans belong in that section? — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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Meagan Good

Please do not add religious categories to subjects who do not self-identify as such. You added "American Jews" to the Meagan Good article when the subject merely claims to be of Jewish decent - not a practicing Jew which is a huge difference. An "of Jewish decent" category is already in place that covers this claim. Same goes for the "of Native American decent" category you also added. Good is already categorized as being "of Cherokee decent" which, again, is what she is claiming and a more accurate category for the subject. Please be mindful when adding categories regarding race, decent, and religion in the future as these things need to be accurate and not overly categorized to cover all bases. Thank you. Pinkadelica^♣ 14:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I have reverted your addition to the Meagan Good article once again because even though you may not think adding yet another category to the article to describe the subject's Native American decent is overkill, it most certainly is. Last time I looked, Cherokees are considered Native American. That is exactly what Good claims to be. Why would we add yet another, more vague category to describe the very same thing? Considering the hassle a few of us had to go to regarding this woman's claim of descent, I highly suggest you get consensus to add this category and stop edit warring over this one category that is already represented in the article. Pinkadelica^♣ 12:57, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

categories

To elaborate (a lot of people don't understand this, so you're not alone): Native American female activists is included in Native American activists; Native American singers is part of Navajo people; Navajo-language singers is part of Native American singers. Articles are to be sorted into the most specific category rather than all possible uber-categories (just like she's not sorted under human being or eukaryote) You might delighted to know that there are by now so many articles on Navajos that it needs to be diversified lest it becomes too crowded. (see for example the blue box on Category:American people. I'm working on it.) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 07:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of world records in athletics

I replied to your question. Trackinfo (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)