User talk:Mdtemp

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Hello, Mdtemp, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! (talk) 19:46, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 1 (2nd nomination)[edit]

Because you participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 1, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 1 (2nd nomination). BigzMMA (talk) 09:22, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Deletion sorting[edit]

Hey there, in future when you add AfDs to Deletion sorting pages as you did with Michael Knaap & Chloe Bruce (martial artist) to the Martial arts deletion sorting page please ensure you tag the AfD with the relevant delsort tag, in this case {{subst:delsort|Martial arts|~~~~}} this informs users it has already been added to delsort page & ensures its not added multiple times. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 00:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mtking[edit]

FYI. Mtking (edits) 06:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


FYI: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Papaursa jmcw (talk) 09:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

When you read this you'll see that your MMA votes have again been called into question. I think you can expect this to continue to happen as long as you continue to vote to delete MMA articles and the MMA discussions remain as contentious as they currently are. The course of action you choose to take is up to you, but I wouldn't expect the MMA fans to change their methods. Papaursa (talk) 00:37, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Screw the fanboys! All I've ever gotten from them are insults and lies. Let them turn this into MMApedia. Mdtemp (talk) 16:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
They are the staunchest supporters of WP:ILIKEIT. I'll admit I was ready to quit WP, but then I decided they'd already driven off too many editors. I've stopped being involved with MMA things like policies, but I still vote when articles come up for AfD.

Iain Martell Afd[edit]

Because you participated in a previous deletion discussion about this subject, I'm notifying you that I've opened Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iain Martell (3rd nomination). Mark Arsten (talk) 22:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

MMA Event Notability[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at WT:MMA#MMA_Event_Notability. Kevlar (talk) 18:56, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Donald Braithwaite[edit]

I'm disappointed with your conclusion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Braithwaite that a "no consensus" would be a "win/win". While I agree with the comments that say neither side is likely to convince the other, it seems like you're willing to compromise your stance just to say you're not wrong. I apologize if I'm misinterpreting your statement. As the keep claims have gotten more extreme--competing in an international event in any sport is sufficient to show notability--I feel loath to give in to their views. Papaursa (talk) 04:34, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I just reread what I wrote and you're right--I do sound like a ****. I doubt that will be the last time.Mdtemp (talk) 19:15, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


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While it’s easy for inclusionist types like myself to bemoan what we see as exclusionism, possibly even deletionism (gasp!), one can’t deny that without such countervailing force the wiki would be teeming with garbage. Thanks for all that you do. :) Buddy23Lee (talk) 18:17, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. This is a nice change from the abuse I usually get.Mdtemp (talk) 19:02, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Jigo-Tensin-Ryu Jujutsu and Dong Jin Kim[edit]

Mdtemp, I appreciate all comments to the pages we have created but please do just that, make suggestions and please do not automatically put it up for deletion. These two pages are relation to a martial art affiliated with the National Defense University. Both pages have are of importance to the NDU and are important in martial arts. Don Jin Kim was national champion in Kendo and the style of Jujutsu is taught by the NDU as part of a U.S. military curriculum. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emery80 (talkcontribs) 03:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't automatically put anything up for deletion. However, if lacks good sources and has questionable notability then AfD is reasonable. Teaching a class at the NDU does not show notability and please don't removed AfD notices from articles.Mdtemp (talk) 19:45, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Understood. Want to make it better and taking the suggestions to heart. Would like too keep both, but it does not look like that will happen.

Atemi Ju-Jitsu[edit]

What's your thoughts on Atemi Ju-Jitsu? I want to be respectful to other MAs, but I am not sold on this one. I am of the understanding their lineage is in question (I have seen this school of Jujitsu brought up on other sites). Further, there references dont add up and its not sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MartialArtsLEO (talkcontribs) 05:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I personally know nothing about this style. I took a quick look at the references and, since they're in French, can not make a quick decision on it. You might try posting your question at WT:WPMA to see what others have to say. Sometimes, but not always, you'll get additional responses. If that fails you can always put it up for AfD, but that's obviously more of a last resort (or if you have serious reservations about the notability and sources).Mdtemp (talk) 19:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Did it, thanks. Message me if you run into anything else Kendo or any other Japanese MA.MartialArtsLEO (talk) 03:38, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Keep an eye on WT:WPMA--that's the place most people post MA questions or start discussions.Mdtemp (talk) 17:52, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry for the issues. I am new to this. I know you are just trying to make Wiki better. Emery80 (talk) 23:24, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

New user Fightmaximus[edit]

Me tactful - not so sure about that. Let's just see how the articles develop with the tags in place. Cheers Peter Rehse (talk) 20:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Kenjiro Yoshigasaki[edit]

I have added new footnotes and inline references. How we can close the AfD discussion to merge all(Ki No Kenkyukai Int Assc, Kenkodo) articles to Kenjiro Yoshigasaki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiaikido1 (talkcontribs) 23:09, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Alida Gray[edit]

Good catch, her name is Alida Yvette Gray. [1]CrazyAces489 (talk) 00:11, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

National Boxing Union[edit]

Any opinion. I personally want to fry this but I already submitted two of the original authors articles for AfD (labelled one a hoax).Peter Rehse (talk) 10:56, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

I see you've already sent it to AfD. I wouldn't be too upset since the author (Caporook) is a promoter with a COI. Mdtemp (talk) 14:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Larry Hartsell deletion...[edit]

I saw one of the discussions that states that he is not a notable author of merit; however, this 4 books are, in many peoples opinion, required reading on the subject of Jeet Kune Do and integrating grappling in all ranges. Specifically, the book title Entering to Trapping to Grappling is a book that ALL martial artists should own. His book on conditioning should be read by all MMA coaches, regardless of preferred style. As the "premier JKD fighter", he also holds a distinction that no other Jeet Kune Do practitioner (of direct Bruce Lee lineage) can hold. I see that Erik Paulson has a page; Larry Hartsell is one of his primary instructors, whom Erik lived with as a young adult for many years. He is also one of three instructors who can be credited with martial arts training in the NFL that, if not directly related, definitely occurred during the prime period of the 49ers and Cowboys. Again, he is also one of the primary martial arts instructors to Dallas Cowboy's HOF Randy White... Chai Sirisute, Dan Inosanto, etc. all still have pages; one notable difference between Dan Inosanto (regarding being an author of note) is that most of his books are out-of-print... Larry Hartsell's books continue to be in print. (I mention Dan Inosanto since Larry Hartsell and he were best friends for over 40 years, since their days with Ed Parker and the transition to Bruce Lee.) I really am dumbfounded as to why his page would have been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corygenesmith (talkcontribs) 04:11, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

It was removed because there was a consensus that he didn't meet any of WP's notability standards. Notability is not inherited from his instructors (or students), he was not deemed a notable author, and there was a lack of significant independent coverage of him. Mdtemp (talk) 14:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)