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Nepenthes IPA[edit]

Hello Mgiganteus; apologies, those edits to the pronunciation were initiated by me, I didn't realise that I was logged out on my laptop. It has been many months since I checked the entries, but I notice that some very odd pronunciations are creeping in, whether by American or British English standards. Any objections to my running through and tweaking? Whilst I originally included the IPA as a guide - and it should only be seen as such given regional differences - some of the names have shifted to pronunciations that I've never heard used on either side of the Atlantic. I also need to add in some missing ones. Let me know, and I'll see to it. Cheers, Attenboroughii (talk) 04:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Not to worry; I'd probably have done the same had I been so attentive. Only a couple of them have been tweaked since 2007, something I didn't notice until I started working on a lightweight iPhone app that will include pronunciation guides for all the species, among other things. I'll add the missing IPA as I go. The one thing that still bugs me is that the pronunciation for Nepenthes is still given as NIH-pen-theez, rather then NUH- or NEH-; there's an old discussion further up my wall (item 3) where the resolution was for NUH- (i.e. using schwa: ə ), but I have no experience with bots and am not about to change them all manually. I wonder what your thoughts are, and perhaps Rkitko will have an opinion also. I speak with RP, do passable estuary/cockney, Aussie and Saffa, and half my family speaks with an American accent. None of them say NIH-, but personal experience of speaking aside, the poster (see last 3 posts by Kwami in item 3 on my talk page) admits that ə makes a difference to speakers of non-American English, but not American English. I'm not saying that we *should* change it, but would prefer some democratic consensus on that matter that involves those who care most. Cheers Attenboroughii (talk) 11:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Saw a note regarding this discussion on Rkitko's talk page, and will offer what I can. By way of introduction, I'm trained as a botanist and I've worked on Wiktionary a lot, spending a lot of time dealing with pronunciation of both English and Classical Latin. The problem is that the pronunciation of the initial syllable is expected to be variable. I've checked the pronunciation of "Nepal" in the Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary, and for both the UK and US, both /nɪ-/ and /nə-/ are given as pronunciations of the initial unstressed syllable. I would expect the same to be true of Nepenthes. So, I see three options: (1) we make an arbitary choice to use one or the other pronunciation, (2) we give both prounciations at the start of the article, or (3) we give one pronunciation at the outset of the article, with a footnote placed there describing and explaining the alternative. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:53, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your input, EncycloPetey. Looking at your options, 2) seems less neat as the pronunciation for the genus appears on all Nepenthes pages; 1) "arbitrary" perhaps isn't quite the right word, as any action on our part can only be considered; whether we favour one or the other, we'll have done so for a variety of reasons. Anyway, taking into account your citation of Nepal as an example, perhaps the currently employed /ɨ/ is the least problematic after all? /ɪ/ would miss the mark for most RP speakers, while /ə/ would be fine for RP and make little difference to GA speakers since they don't articulate their vowels quite so markedly; though /ɨ/ is a reduced vowel, which it certainly isn't in Nepal, or indeed some pronunciations of Nepenthes, in the latter the stress is most commonly on the -PEN- and /ɨ/ offers some flexibility where /ɪ/ and /ə/ do not. RP speakers still draw a short straw in terms of accuracy, but it's closer than /ɪ/. 3) may be overkill for an audience who probably don't care too much about how it is pronounced (and it is a trivial point after all) since it's a straightforward word. So concentrating on point 1), I want to establish what the consensus would be on the use of -ɪ, -ə, or -ɨ over the alternatives. Attenboroughii (talk) 01:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
Thinking about this some more, I'm leaning towards option 3. How about this: we keep /ɨ/ as the only pronunciation in the intro to Nepenthes and throughout all the daughter articles (for the reasons stated above), but include a footnote in Nepenthes explaining the nuances. All three pronunciations can then be sourced to popular dictionaries (most of which apparently favour /ɪ/, per kwami). I don't think it would be overkill to include a sentence or two on this, hidden away as it would be at the bottom of the page. If a reader isn't interested they can skip over the footnote. mgiganteus1 (talk) 16:21, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm content with option 3 also. I can't spare the time to see to it at present (not that it's urgent), but if you do think of a suitable footnote, please feel free. And IPA is a whole series of delicious beers - alas, Greene King is hard to find outside of the UK.Attenboroughii (talk) 01:16, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, all. Thanks for thinking of me in this discussion, but I must confess my complete ignorance of IPA (isn't that some kind of beer?). I'm also accustomed to meeting others at conferences and instantly comparing pronunciations, usually brought on by talking about our favorite organisms. Subsequently, I have a rather lax attitude toward pronunciations. I'll leave the decision in your capable hands :-) Rkitko (talk) 02:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)


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Hello, Mgiganteus1, and thank you for welcoming me in English section! I changed the formulation in Gladius (cephalopod) because it looked like "Vampyroteuthis is the sole recent member of Octopodiformes". Yes, my formulation isn't very exact in relation to extinct species. Maybe, you could find better formulation. With best regards, Stas000D (talk) 17:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Referencing Pteriomorphia[edit]

Hi. Why are lengthy references, as you reverted back to, better than more concise references such as I changed. While the extra wording probably wouldn't matter, except for providing nothing essential, when the reference appeared only at the bottom of the page, with in-line references now popping up on pages it seems they should be as short as reasonably possible. Just my perspective.J.H.McDonnell (talk) 23:56, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Nice mollusk contributions[edit]

Hello Mgiganteus1, nice to see your excellent contributions to WikiProject Gastropods and WikiProject Bivalves. Any and all contributions you can make, and continue to make, keeping with the projects' style are greatly appreciated. I look forward to spending more time making contributions myself, as I have been absent a few months due to work matters. Take care and keep up the great work! Shellnut (talk) 01:46, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help adding Abductin to the template! I missed it when adding the bivalve anatomy articles I created last week. Shellnut (talk) 16:03, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

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Do you mind elaborating on why you created the redirect page of Spirulina (suborder) to the cephalopod page? There seems to be no support for the use of that term anywhere else on Wikipedia, and Spirulina does have an actual specific meaning regarding cyanobacteria. ScottHW (talk) 21:32, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

The link you cited for the use of "spirulina" as a suborder of cephalopod actually states that spirulina was an acceptable Homonym in 1827. And that it was listed as a suborder in 1912.

The conflict comes from the fact that the word Spirulina is currently, modernly, and actively used to describe a significantly taxonomy, specifically a genus of cyanobacteria. Derived from that scientific realm, the name Spirulina is often used to refer to the nutritional supplement derived from the cyanobacteria. A very brief web search will quickly show that this is the OVERWHELMING use of the word. I'm struggling to find additional sources confirming modern use of the suborder "Spirulina".

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I guess you're right. The Spirulina cephalopod suborder is unambiguous. I was just annoyed to find out that a hundred years ago some guys decided to use the exact same word to name such drastically different things.

I also agree that the Spriulina disambiguation should be addressed. As a scientist, I would rather that that cyanobacteria be given the default position, since that's how the nutritional supplement derives it's name. But I recognize (and in fact just pointed out above) that to a general audience, the word most often refers to the supplements.

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Hey Mgiganteus1! Another set of patches :). Today we have:

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Dryopidae[edit]

I'm confused about your edit summary. The article never referred to a species. SL93 (talk) 15:11, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013[edit]

It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages (bug 52012http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52012), scrolling (bug 52014http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52014) and deleting (bug 52013http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block (bug 51741http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer (bug 36000http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.

Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:

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Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.

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Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (bug 50749http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50749) or in image captions (bug 52427)http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52427). Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (bug 52159http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (bug 51462http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (bug 33094http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (bug 52441http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab and Shift+Tab key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (bug 52113http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52113).

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Tardigrade[edit]

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Thank you and hello[edit]

Thank you for welcoming me. You're the first to talk to me. How do I find pictures I can use in an article? The picture in Cucurbita pepo is not that good. There's bound to be a better one around. Another question, I'm using a JSTOR article to update c. pepo and Cucurbita. I do I "recycle" that reference without copying all the syntax for the reference every time?

Thank you, you are very kind and helpful. HalfGig (talk) 00:15, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Your name[edit]

Are you named after the saber tooth tiger, mushroom, or grass? HalfGig (talk) 11:37, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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Cite jstor and species[edit]

I've noticed that when I use cite jstor and create fill in the info, it creates a file called "template cite doi....." and that the doi numbers it makes seem to be bad. I'll just keep using cite jstor as you suggested. Thank you for being so helpful and I hope I don't bug you too much. I'm also trying to figure how to combine the two species lists. I made the second one but I don't like how it came out, too much repeated info.HalfGig (talk) 12:53, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Good tips. I like using academic/university level references. And the coding/syntax/markup isn't that hard for me to learn. HalfGig (talk) 16:09, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Cucurbita galeottii[edit]

I started my first article, a little know curcubit species. If you have tips, just let me know on my talk. If you want to edit it yourself, feel free. Thanks for all you help so far. HalfGig (talk) 21:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I responded on my talk page. Why do the references in the article have up arrows instead of carets? HalfGig (talk) 00:00, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Can you keep an eye on my talk page? That way we don't keep switching between your page and mine. I have another response for you there. HalfGig (talk) 11:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Eastern Agricultural Complex[edit]

Hi. I just made an edit here to remove erroneous info and its errant reference. I put in more accurate info with a better reference. Is this ok to do? See Cucurbita for more details on why this prior info was erroneous. Please respond here. It's that other stuff I wanted to keep in one spot. HalfGig (talk) 23:56, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely. Text that is at odds with reliable sources should be removed or corrected. Being bold is encouraged on the 'pedia. :-) mgiganteus1 (talk) 02:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Cucurbita lundelliana[edit]

Would you mind taking a look at this new one too? thank you very much. HalfGig (talk) 01:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Again, nice article! I did a light copyedit and added a few categories. mgiganteus1 (talk) 01:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I learned from looking at decent articles, their style, format, etc and copying how they were done and the tips you've given have really helped. HalfGig (talk) 01:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC) Oh, I've still working on Cucurbita, I'll probably spend a few more weeks on it. I have more JSTOR articles to read. If you have tips on that article, it'd be appreciated.HalfGig (talk) 01:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5[edit]

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

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Cucurbita fraterna[edit]

I'm done with my initial work on Cucurbita fraterna. It's my biggest one yet of the new ones. I've dumped a lot of facts in it but I think it doesn't read well. Could you look at it and help make it a better read? HalfGig (talk) 01:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. HalfGig (talk) 14:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I made a very short article on compilospecies.HalfGig (talk) 15:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Cucurbita texana[edit]

On my other new articles I did not find photos of the freely licensed type you told me about. My next article will be C. texana. I found 10 images (1 USDA, 9 forestryimages.org) that i think are freely licensed. I made an account on Wikipedia Commons and instantly got a talk page message about how to do things. It had a link with a form to fill out to upload images. It was not too hard but I am sure I goofed a few things. 1) I had trouble with the texana category I made. It shows up under the cucurbita category, but should show up under the c. pepo category 2) can you kindly look over the uploads and see if I need to fix anything. The images are in two places: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HalfGig and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cucurbita_texana . If I repeated a mistake, let me know and I'll fix it. Which image do you think is best on the soon to be new article? HalfGig (talk) 21:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Yep, those images are all fine license-wise. You included all the necessary information in your uploads (source, author, permission, etc.) but strictly speaking all images should have a license template (which I've added). Some of these templates can be quite obscure and difficult to find, but here's a more-or-less complete list: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_tags.
I think placing C. texana within C. pepo would be confusing as they are both at the same taxonomic rank (that of species). If the category was named Cucurbita pepo var. texana then it would make sense for it to be subordinate to Cucurbita pepo. I'm not sure which combination (if any) has greater currency in the literature?
I quite like File:Cucurbita texana 2.jpg and File:Cucurbita texana 7.jpg as they nicely illustrate the fruits and leaves, even as thumbnails. You could include both if you like, as is done in the Lion article. mgiganteus1 (talk) 22:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you again for being so helpful. Yes, there's inconsistency in how the various species/varieties relate to one another, not uncommon in the taxa world. They're either separate and equal, subspecies, or varieties. Maybe for now I'll leave it as and think about it. There's no doubt fraterna, texana, and pepo are related. If we make the Commons category subordinate to pepo, we should probably rename the wiki articles on fraterna and texana. Note the fruit photos have melons on the right and texana on the left. HalfGig (talk) 01:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Read the abstract and first page of this. Also, Cucurbita texana created.HalfGig (talk) 02:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Great improvements on texana! Thank you. I made a stub on the right Scheele, George Heinrich Adolf Scheele, using the wrong one as a model. And this is quite interesting, but maybe a bit dated as the most recent date mentioned is 1933. HalfGig (talk) 11:44, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Note this part "As most recently defined (Decker-Walters, et al., 1993), free-living gourds that occur in Texas are classified as C. pepo ssp. ovifera var. texana. Similar, free-living plants that occur in the U.S. beyond Texas (Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana) are placed in C. pepo ssp. ovifera var. ozarkana." There still seems to be disagreement on what to call and the relations between pepo, texana, and fraterna. That 1993 ref is 20 years. I'm looking for newer stuff. And "However, primary areas of disagreement among those working with the C. pepo 'problem' do not center on the pattern of genetic differentiation that has produced the entities defined as subspecies and varieties in Fig. 1. These have been relatively well defined by a series of comparative studies that show considerable congruence. The 'Texas Gourd' has not been treated as a distinct species by specialists since the formal name change in 1988 (Decker, 1988;Decker-Walters, 1990;Decker-Walters et al., 1990;Decker-Walters et al., 1993;Harlan, 1992;Heiser, 1989;Smith, 1992;Cowan and Smith, 1993;Wilson, 1989;1990). There are, however, several competing hypotheses regarding phylogenetic linkage between both free-living and domesticated elements of C. pepo. " HalfGig (talk) 12:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Note this photo shows fruit that doesn't look like the white ones I found yesterday. HalfGig (talk) 13:06, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I found Michael Nee's email address and emailed him. Hopefully he is willing to get us up to date. HalfGig (talk) 14:22, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Here is the crux of the problem, with two recent refs. HalfGig (talk) 23:13, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Two new ones[edit]

Cucurbita scabridifolia and Cucurbita martinezii

Looking good. The only thing I could find to edit was to move the stub tags below the categories. This is so the auto-generated stub category (in this case Category:Cucurbitales stubs) appears after, and not before, the more important, non-maintenance categories. Anyway, keep up the good work! mgiganteus1 (talk) 02:06, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Following some tips and hint to nominate for "good" status, I've nominated Cucurbita for "good" status. If you have suggestions, please make the edits or let me know and I'll make the edits. If you want to review it for "good", that's okay too. HalfGig (talk) 23:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC), and a new one: Cucurbita andreana HalfGig (talk) 23:51, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Cucurbita species count[edit]

new-Cucurbita moorei not much on that one. Nee has it in the pedatifolia group.HalfGig (talk) 00:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Moorei may have the same problem C. gracilior. Nee counts them as species but this Plant List site doesn't. Not unusual to have disagreement. But the issue at hand is how to deal with this in the genus level Cucurbita article. Nee counts 27 species in 13 groups. But the Plant List has 19 species. What should we do here? HalfGig (talk) 01:18, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
I think a peer-reviewed paper such as Nee's should take precedence over The Plant List, especially as their determinations for this genus only have a "medium confidence level" (explained here). Having said this, it would be good to mention competing taxonomic treatments, either stating that The Plant List recognises 19 species and providing a link to their page, or including their list of species in the article. mgiganteus1 (talk) 15:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Excellent points. I'll be working on that over the next couple days. There are other taxonomy proposals too. I'lll poke around more. Thank you! I also started Cayaponia. I felt since it is the largest genus in the tribe, it should at least be a stub. HalfGig (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
If you don't mind looking it over, this set of edits are how I tried to deal with this. I also saw a couple boxes I put on my user main page. HalfGig (talk) 00:59, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Seems like a perfectly sensible solution! Let me know when you're done expanding Cucurbita and I'll be happy to copyedit it. mgiganteus1 (talk) 02:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm pretty much done. Mostly I'm waiting for the reviewer for "good" status to pick up the nomination. A copyedit would be greatly appreciated! HalfGig (talk) 02:34, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Cucurbita sororia, Cucurbita palmeri, Cucurbita kellyana new HalfGig (talk) 18:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013[edit]

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:38, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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GA review of Cucurbita[edit]

Hi, not sure if you've seen that I'm reviewing Cucurbita - looks as if you have been helping nom with the article and can advise on list/table formats to make references clear, I've a couple of small queries there which formatting might iron out. Overall it's a lovely article and it was a pleasure to read it. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:23, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Cucurbita GA review[edit]

This has been started by Chiswick Chap. If you could do a copyedit, that would be awesome. HalfGig (talk) 18:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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For great performance in helping people learn wiki ways, especially myself. HalfGig (talk) 21:58, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
With Bar. Really nice to see mentoring and collaboration working so well on an article. Good work both. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Chiswick Chap said "It may require care with lists and medical claims, and a separate section on constituents, for progress to FA." I asked for more info on his talk page because I'm not sure about the constituents parts. What do you see we need to do to get it to FA? I would need a helping start with tables. I worked on medical claims, but perhaps more is needed. I'll readily share credit as I couldn't do this without you. The article is definitely better now. HalfGig (talk) 10:13, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
New articles: Cayaponia espelina, Pyrus amygdaliformis, Pyrus armeniacifolia, António Luiz Patricio da Silva Manso. If you have time to look at them... HalfGig (talk) 18:27, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

10mm question[edit]

Any ideas on what to do with the "10mm question" in User_talk:HalfGig#Cucurbita_copyedit? HalfGig (talk) 21:58, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 September 2013[edit]

DYK for Guilá Naquitz Cave[edit]

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Help with Lewis Leonard Forman[edit]

If you have time, I could use help on this new article: Lewis Leonard Forman. See ref 5, I need title and author name. I'm having trouble getting proper info (and hence format) on refs 4 and 6. Ref 8 is shaky as it says year 1942 but Forman would have been 13 years old then. I got this rough info from es.wiki and went through it to verify it. This is what's left at this point. Thank you. HalfGig (talk) 00:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Stemonitis picked up on it from WT:Plants and fixed it. I wonder where he found the stuff. I'm ready for you, if you don't mind, to look at Cucurbita#Chemical_constituents. I think we're close to the peer review ready other users mentioned. HalfGig (talk) 01:00, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Cucurbita peer review[edit]

I just listed Cucurbita at Wikipedia:Peer review/Cucurbita/archive1. Any help you have time for is greatly appreciated. The Cucurbita#Chemical_constituents section could use some attention. I'd greatly appreciate any assistance. HalfGig (talk) 01:48, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Cephalopod anatomy[edit]

Hello Mgiganteus, It looks as though you are busy in other areas right now, but I just wanted to point out that I was told that this kind of template, since it is intended to be a navigational aid, should probably not contain red links (except maybe for a brief period of time). The red links in the cephalopod anatomy template have been there for nearly a year. In the MoS it says about these navigational templates: "Red links should be avoided ... editors are encouraged to write the article first." I do totally understand why these are listed though; I was tempted to do the same thing in the templates for Gastropod anatomy and Bivalve anatomy, but in the end I left them incomplete without any red links. Red links are a useful reminder for us, the writers, but they are not useful for the readers or consumers of WP. Hope you don't mind my pointing this out. All best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 13:36, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter on 16 October 2013[edit]

VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to your preferences and choosing the item, "Enable VisualEditor. It will be available in the following namespaces: $1".

The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption (bug 50459).

There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected (bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances (bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances (bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories (bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias (bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes (bug 54712).

Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:39, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 October 2013[edit]

Squash mosaic virus[edit]

I was wondering if you could help me expand this by, oh, 50% or so. There are 10 references right now but choosing what to add has stymied me. FYI, User:Sasata has given some great feedback on the Cucurbita peer review that I am working through. (talk) 00:20, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 October 2013[edit]

Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter[edit]

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News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

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VisualEditor newsletter for November 2013[edit]

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.

A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Accidental deletion of infoboxes and other items: You now need to press the Delete or ← Backspace key twice to delete a template, reference or image. The first time, the item becomes selected, and the second time, it is removed. The need to press the delete key twice should make it more obvious what you are doing and help avoid accidental removals of infoboxes and similar (bug 55336).
  • Switch from VisualEditor to the wikitext editor: A new feature lets you make a direct, one-way editing interface change, which will preserve your changes without needing to save the page and re-open it in the wikitext editor (bug 50687). It is available in a new menu in the action buttons by the Cancel button (where the "Page Settings" button used to be). Note that this new feature is not currently working in Firefox.
  • Categories and Languages are also now directly available in that menu. The category suggestions drop-down was appearing in the wrong place rather than below its input box, which is now fixed. An incompatibility between VisualEditor and the deployed Parsoid service that prevented editing categories and language links was fixed.
  • File:, Help: and Category: namespaces: VisualEditor was enabled for these namespaces the on all wikis (bug 55968), the Portal: and Viquiprojecte: namespaces on the Catalan Wikipedia (bug 56000), and the Portal: and Book: namespaces on the English Wikipedia (bug 56001).
  • Media item resizing: We improved how files are viewed in a few ways. First, inline media items can now be resized in the same way that has been possible with block ones (like thumbnails) before. When resizing a media item, you can see a live preview of how it will look as you drag it (bug 54298). While you are dragging an image to resize it, we now show a label with the current dimensions (bug 54297). Once you have resized it, we fetch a new, higher resolution image for the media item if necessary (bug 55697). Manual setting of media item sizes in their dialog is nearly complete and should be available next week. If you hold down the Shift key whilst resizing an image, it will now snap to a 10 pixel grid instead of the normal free-hand sizing. The media item resize label now is centered while resizing regardless of which tool you use to resize it.
  • Undo and redo: A number of improvements were made to the transactions system which make undoing and redoing more reliable during real-time collaboration (bug 53224).
  • Save dialogue: The save page was re-written to use the same code as all other dialogs (bug 48566), and in the process fixed a number of issues. The save dialog is re-accessible if it loses focus (bug 50722), or if you review a null edit (bug 53313); its checkboxes for minor edit, watch the page, and flagged revisions options now layout much more cleanly (bug 52175), and the tab order of the buttons is now closer to what users will expect (bug 51918). There was a bug in the save dialog that caused it to crash if there was an error in loading the page from Parsoid, which is now fixed.
  • Links to other articles or pages sometimes sent people to invalid pages. VisualEditor now keeps track of the context in which you loaded the page, which lets us fix up links in document to point to the correct place regardless of what entry point you launched the editor from—so the content of pages loaded through /wiki/Foobar?veaction=edit and /w/index.php?title=Foobar&veaction=edit both now have text links that work if triggered (bug 48915).
  • Toolbar links: A bug that caused the toolbar's menus to get shorter or even blank when scrolled down the page in Firefox is now fixed (bug 55343).
  • Numbered external links: VisualEditor now supports Parsoid's changed representation of numbered external links (bug 53505).
  • Removed empty templates: We also fixed an issue that meant that completely empty templates became impossible to interact with inside VisualEditor, as they didn't show up (bug 55810).
  • Mathematics formulae: If you would like to try the experimental LaTeX mathematics tool in VisualEditor, you will need to opt-in to Beta Features. This is currently available on Meta-wiki, Wikimedia Commons, and Mediawiki.org. It will be available on all other Wikimedia sites on 21 November.
  • Browser testing support: If you are interested in technical details, the browser tests were expanded to cover some basic cursor operations, which uncovered an issue in our testing framework that doesn't work with cursoring in Firefox; the Chrome tests continue to fail due to a bug with the welcome message for that part of the testing framework.
  • Load time: VisualEditor now uses content language when fetching Wikipedia:TemplateData information, so reducing bandwidth use, and users on multi-language or multi-script wikis now get TemplateData hinting for templates as they would expect (bug 50888).
  • Reuse of VisualEditor: Work on spinning out the user experience (UX) framework from VisualEditor into oojs-ui, which lets other teams at Wikimedia (like Flow) and gadget authors re-use VisualEditor UX components, is now complete and is being moved to a shared code repository.
  • Support for private wikis: If you maintain a private wiki at home or at work, VisualEditor now supports editing of private wikis, by forwarding the Cookie: HTTP header to Parsoid ($wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies set to true) (bug 44483). (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)

Looking ahead:

  • VisualEditor will be released to some of the smaller Wikipedias on 02 December 2013. If you are active at one or more smaller Wikipedias where VisualEditor is not yet generally available, please see the list at VisualEditor/Rollouts.
  • Public office hours on IRC to discuss VisualEditor with Product Manager James Forrester will be held on Monday, 2 December, at 1900 UTC and on Tuesday, 3 December, at 0100 UTC. Bring your questions. Logs will be posted on Meta after each office hour completes.
  • In terms of feature improvements, one of the major infrastructure projects affects how inserting characters works, both using your computer's built-in Unicode input systems and through a planned character inserter tool for VisualEditor. The forthcoming rich copying and pasting feature was extended and greater testing is currently being done. Work continues to support the improved reference dialog to quickly add citations based on local templates.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 04 December 2013[edit]

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Interesting question[edit]

whether Superspecies and Artenkreis should be merged. I'm not very familiar with these terms that are mostly used in zoology. There are dictionary definitions accessible online that seem to say that Ring species and Artenkreis are the same, but I wonder if Artenkreis is supposed to be a ring of species, and consequently a superspecies but not a ring species. More investigation needed. I'll look for original sources, since later ones might have muddled things. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library's Books and Bytes newsletter (#2)[edit]

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The Wikipedia Library Survey[edit]

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The Signpost: 11 December 2013[edit]

Hi[edit]

See my post on Zad68's talk page. I want to deeply thank you for all your help and kindness. Too bad there is so much bickering on wikipedia. HalfGig talk 22:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 December 2013[edit]

VisualEditor newsletter • 19 December 2013[edit]

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

  • Rich copying and pasting is now available. If you copy text from another website, then character formatting and some other HTML attributes are preserved. This means, for example, that if you copy a pre-formatted suggested citation from a source like this, then VisualEditor will preserve the formatting of the title in the citation. Keep in mind that copying the formatting may include formatting that you don't want (like section headings). If you want to paste plain, unformatted text onto a page, then use Control+ Shift+V or Command+ Shift+V (Mac).
  • Auto-numbered external links like [1] can now be edited just like any other link. However, they cannot be created in VisualEditor easily.
  • Several changes to the toolbar and dialogs have been made, and more are on the way. The toolbar has been simplified with a new drop-down text styles menu and an "insert" menu. Your feedback on the toolbar is wanted here. The transclusion/template dialog has been simplified. If you have enabled mathematical formula editing, then the menu item is now called the formula editor instead of LaTeX.
  • There is a new character inserter, which you can find in the new "insert" menu, with a capital Omega ("Ω"). It's a very basic set of characters. Your feedback on the character inserter is wanted here.
  • Saving the page should seem faster by several seconds now.
  • It is now possible to access VisualEditor by manually editing the URL, even if you are not logged in or have not opted in to VisualEditor normally.  To do so, append ?veaction=edit to the end of the page name.  For example, change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random?veaction=edit to open a random page in VisualEditor.  This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.

Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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Trying again[edit]

I've decided to try again to make Cucurbita as good as we can. I'll start by going back over the peer review. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you again for your long support and superb guidance. Best wishes to you on the New Year. HalfGig talk 13:00, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I think I had more of the peer review done that I recalled. See article talk page for the issues. HalfGig talk 13:17, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Books & Bytes New Years Double Issue[edit]

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Happy New Year, and welcome to a special double issue of Books & Bytes. We've included a retrospective on the changes and progress TWL has seen over the last year, the results of the survey TWL participants completed in December, some of our plans for the future, a second interview with a Wiki Love Libraries coordinator, and more. Here's to 2014 being a year of expansion and innovation for TWL!

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VisualEditor newsletter for Janaury 2014[edit]

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments (bug 50910) a major bug that meant inserting any template or other transclusion failed (bug 59002), a major but quickly resolved problem due to an unannounced change in MediaWiki core, which caused VisualEditor to crash on trying to save (bug 59867). This last bugs did not appear on any Wikipedia. Additionally, significant work has been done in the background to make VisualEditor work as an independent editing system.

As of today, VisualEditor is now available as an opt-out feature to all users at 149 active Wikipedias.

  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has a very basic set of characters. The character inserter is especially important for languages that use Latin and Cyrillic alphabets with unusual characters or frequent diacritics. Your feedback on the character inserter is requested. In addition to feedback from any interested editor, the developers would particularly like to hear from anyone who speaks any of the 50+ languages listed under Phase 5 at mw:VisualEditor/Rollouts, including Breton, Mongolian, Icelandic, Welsh, Afrikaans, Macedonian, and Azerbaijani.
  • meta:Office hours on IRC have been heavily attended recently. The next one will be held this coming Wednesday, 22 January at 23:00 UTC.
  • You can now edit some of the page settings in the "options" dialog – __NOTOC__ and __FORCETOC__ as selection (forced on, forced off, or default setting; bugs 56866 and 56867) and __NOEDITSECTION__ as a checkbox (bug 57166).
  • The automated browser tests were adjusted to speed them up and bind more correctly to list items in lists, and updated to a newer version of their ruby dependencies. You can monitor the automated browser tests' results (triggered every twelve hours) live on the server.
  • Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide was updated recently to show some new and upcoming features.

Looking ahead: The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including support for alignment (left, right, and center) and better control over image size (including default and upright sizes). The developers are also working on support for editing redirects and image galleries.

Subscriptions to this newsletter are managed at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter. Please add or remove your name to change your subscription settings. If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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Tables[edit]

See User_talk:Sasata#Cucurbita.23Production_tables. Can you or someone you know help with: An intro to the two new tables (I wrote one but it can probably be improved), removing the source column (I tried and it didn't work), and if and how to combine the tables (note the same 10 countries are not in the tables). HalfGig talk 11:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Congratulations on winning the Natural History Shield[edit]

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For great service to Wikipedia in the area of Natural History. Your efforts in improving these areas and helping other users is greatly needed and appreciated! HalfGig talk 15:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I've been a bit quiet lately but hope to get back into the swing of things soon enough. Great to see you editing again, btw. :-) mgiganteus1 (talk) 23:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor Newsletter—February 2014[edit]

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.

The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.

Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl").

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes, Issue 4[edit]

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 4, February 2014

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News for February from your Wikipedia Library.

Donations drive: news on TWL's partnership efforts with publishers

Open Access: Feature from Ocaasi on the intersection of the library and the open access movement

American Library Association Midwinter Conference: TWL attended this year in Philadelphia

Royal Society Opens Access To Journals: The UK's venerable Royal Society will give the public (and Wikipedians) full access to two of their journal titles for two days on March 4th and 5th

Going Global: TWL starts work on pilot projects in other language Wikipedias

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The Signpost: 12 March 2014[edit]

VisualEditor newsletter—March 2014[edit]

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing.  With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.

  • The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. Pages that exist, but are not indexed by the search engine, are treated like non-existent pages (bug 54361http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54361).
  • Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from the paragraph you are editing.
  • The character inserter tool in the "Insert" menu has been slightly redesigned, to introduce larger buttons. Your suggestions for more significant changes to the special character inserter are still wanted.
  • The page options menu (three bars, next to the Cancel button) has expanded. You can create and edit redirect pages, set page options like __STATICREDIRECT__, __[NO]INDEX__ and __[NO]NEWEDITSECTION__, and more.  New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.
  • It is easier to edit images. There are more options and they are explained better. If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size.  You can now set image sizes to the default, if another size was previously specified. Full support for upright sizing systems, which more readily adapt image sizes to the reader's screen size, is planned.
  • VisualEditor adds fake blank lines so you can put your cursor there. These "slugs" are now smaller than normal blank lines, and are animated to be different from actual blank lines.
  • You can use the Ctrl+Alt+S or  Command+ Option+S shortcuts to open the save window, and you can preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed to the Interlingual Occidental Wikipedia, the Portuguese Wikibooks, and the French Wikiversity.
  • Any community can ask for custom icons for their language in the character formatting menu (bold, italic, etc.) by making a request on Bugzilla or by contacting Product Manager James Forrester.

The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.

Looking ahead:  Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on 19 April 2014 at 2000 UTC. Thank you! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes - Issue 5[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 5, March 2014
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

  • New Visiting Scholar positions
  • TWL Branch on Arabic Wikipedia, microgrants program
  • Australian articles get a link to librarians
  • Spotlight: "7 Reasons Librarians Should Edit Wikipedia"

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VisualEditor newsletter—April 2014[edit]

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.

  • In an oft-requested improvement, VisualEditor now displays red links (links to non-existent pages) in the proper color. Links to sister projects and external URLs are still the same blue as local links.
  • You can now open templates by double-clicking them or by selecting them and pressing  Return.  This also works for references, images, galleries, mathematical equations, and other "nodes".
  • VisualEditor has been disabled for pages that were created as translations of other pages using the Translate extension (common at Meta and MediaWiki.org). If a page has been marked for translation, you will see a warning if you try to edit it using VisualEditor.
  • When you try to edit protected pages with VisualEditor, the full protection notice and most recent log entry are displayed. Blocked users see the standard message for blocked users.
  • The developers fixed a bug that caused links on sub-pages to point to the wrong location.
  • The size-changing controls in the advanced settings section of the media or image dialog were simplified further. VisualEditor's media dialog supports more image display styles, like borderless images.
  • If there is not enough space on your screen to display all of the tabs (for instance, if your browser window is too narrow), the second edit tab will now fold into the drop-down menu (where the "Move" item is currently housed). On the English Wikipedia, this moves the "Edit beta" tab into the menu; on most projects, it moves the "Edit source" tab. This is only enabled in the default Vector skin, not for Monobook users. See this image for an example showing the "Edit source" and "View history" tabs after they moved into the drop-down menu.
  • After community requests, VisualEditor has been deployed as an opt-in feature at Meta and on the French Wikinews.
The drop-down menu is on the right, next to the search box.

Looking ahead:  A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting (dir="rtl") will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Monday, 19 May 2014 at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this on your own page, subscribe at Wikipedia:VisualEditor#Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—May 2014[edit]

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Did you know?

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The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates.  If your wiki has enabled the "Cite" menu, press "Cite" and select the appropriate template from the menu.

Existing citations that use these templates can be edited either using the "Cite" tool or by selecting the reference and choosing the "Basic" item in the "Insert" menu.

Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "Cite". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "Basic" item in the "Insert" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.

Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.

  • There is a new Beta Feature for setting content language and direction.  This allows editors who have opted in to use the "Language" tool in the "Insert" menu to add HTML span tags that label text with the language and as being left-to-right (LTR) or right-to-left (RTL), like this:  <span lang="en" dir="ltr">English</span>. This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis.
  • The tool for editing mathematics formulae in VisualEditor has been slightly updated and is now available to all users, as the "Formula" item in the "Insert" menu. It uses LaTeX like in the wikitext editor.
  • The layout of template dialogs has been changed, putting the label above the field.  Parameters are now called "fields", to avoid a technical term that many editors are unfamiliar with.
  • TemplateData has been expanded:  You can now add "suggested" parameters in TemplateData, and VisualEditor will display them in the template dialogs like required ones.  "Suggested" is recommended for parameters that are commonly used, but not actually required to make the template work.  There is also a new type for TemplateData parameters: wiki-file-name, for file names.  The template tool can now tell you if a parameter is marked as being obsolete.
  • Some templates that previously displayed strangely due to absolute CSS positioning hacks should now display correctly.
  • Several messages have changed: The notices shown when you save a page have been merged into those used in the wikitext editor, for consistency.  The message shown when you "Cancel" out of an edit is clearer. The beta dialog notice, which is shown the first time you open VisualEditor, will be hidden for logged-in users via a user preference rather than a cookie.  As a result of this change, the beta notice will show up one last time for all logged-in users on their next VisualEditor use after Thursday's upgrade.
  • Adding a category that is a redirect to another category prompts you to add the target category instead of the redirect.
  • In the "Media" dialog, it is no longer possible to set a redundant border for thumbnail and framed images.
  • There is a new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData.  You can test it by editing a documentation subpage (not a template page) at Mediawiki.org: edit mw:Template:Sandbox/doc, and then click "Manage template documentation" above the wikitext edit box.  If your community would like to use this TemplateData editor at your project, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
  • There have been multiple small changes to the appearance:  External links are shown in the same light blue color as in MediaWiki.  This is a lighter shade of blue than the internal links.  The styling of the "Style text" (character formatting) drop-down menu has been synchronized with the recent font changes to the Vector skin.  VisualEditor dialogs, such as the "Save page" dialog, now use a "loading" animation of moving lines, rather than animated GIF images.  Other changes were made to the appearance upon opening a page in VisualEditor which should make the transition between reading and editing be smoother.
  • The developers merged in many minor fixes and improvements to MediaWiki interface integration (e.g., edit notices), and made VisualEditor handle Education Program pages better.
  • At the request of the community, VisualEditor has been deployed to Commons as an opt-in. It is currently available by default for 161 Wikipedia language editions and by opt-in through Beta Features at all others, as well as on several non-Wikipedia sites.

Looking ahead:  The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard.  The "Keyboard shortcuts" link will be moved out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Thursday, 19 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 28 May 2014[edit]

Books & Bytes, Issue 6[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 6, April-May 2014
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

  • New donations from Oxford University Press and Royal Society (UK)
  • TWL does Vegas: American Library Association Annual plans
  • TWL welcomes a new coordinator, resources for library students and interns
  • New portal on Meta, resources for starting TWL branches, donor call blitzes, Wikipedia Visiting Scholar news, and more

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Petiole (botany): why Phyllodes (moth)?[edit]

In this edit of Petiole (botany), you inserted {{for|the moth genus|Phyllodes (moth)}}. Why? Is there a citation for this genus having ever been known as Petiole? (A Google search reveals that it is Eublemma amoena that has the common name "petiole moth"). Why did you not instead use {{for|the constricted segment in some ant species|Petiole (insect anatomy)}}? I will look for your response here. —Anomalocaris (talk) 23:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anomalocaris. I added that hatnote because Phyllodes redirects to Petiole (botany). I've now changed the template to the more appropriate {{redirect}}. mgiganteus1 (talk) 23:16, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for changing the hatnote template. It made no sense before, but it makes sense now. —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:50, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

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The Wikipedia Library: New Account Coordinators Needed[edit]

Hi Books & Bytes recipients: The Wikipedia Library has been expanding rapidly and we need some help! We currently have 10 signups for free account access open and several more in the works... In order to help with those signups, distribute access codes, and manage accounts we'll need 2-3 more Account Coordinators.

It takes about an hour to get up and running and then only takes a couple hours per week, flexible depending upon your schedule and routine. If you're interested in helping out, please drop a note in the next week at my talk page or shoot me an email at: jorlowitz@gmail.com. Thanks and cheers, Jake Ocaasi via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor global newsletter—June 2014[edit]

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Did you know?

The character formatting menu, or "Style text" menu lets you set bold, italic, and other text styles. "Clear formatting" removes all text styles and removes links to other pages.

Do you think that clear formatting should remove links? Are there changes you would like to see for this menu? Share your opinion at MediaWiki.org.

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor.

The VisualEditor team is mostly working to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.

  • They have moved the "Keyboard shortcuts" link out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Within dialog boxes, buttons are now more accessible (via the Tab key) from the keyboard.
  • You can now see the target of the link when you click on it, without having to open the inspector.
  • The team also expanded TemplateData: You can now add a parameter type  "date" for dates and times in the ISO 8601 format, and  "boolean" for values which are true or false. Also, templates that redirect to other templates (like {{citeweb}}{{cite web}}) now get the TemplateData of their target (bug 50964). You can test TemplateData by editing mw:Template:Sandbox/doc.
  • Category: and File: pages now display their contents correctly after saving an edit (bug 65349, bug 64239)
  • They have also improved reference editing: You should no longer be able to add empty citations with VisualEditor (bug 64715), as with references. When you edit a reference, you can now empty it and click the "use an existing reference" button to replace it with another reference instead. 
  • It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor. Remember that inline images cannot display captions, so existing captions get removed. Many other bugs related to images were also fixed.
  • You can now add and edit {{DISPLAYTITLE}} and __DISAMBIG__ in the "Page options" menu, rounding out the full set of page options currently planned.
  • The tool to insert special characters is now wider and simpler.

Looking ahead[edit]

The VisualEditor team has posted a draft of their goals for the next fiscal year. You can read them and suggest changes on MediaWiki.org.

The team posts details about planned work on VisualEditor's roadmap. You will soon be able to drag-and-drop text as well as images. If you drag an image to a new place, it won't let you place it in the middle of a paragraph. All dialog boxes and windows will be simplified based on user testing and feedback. The VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for citations. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments and adding rows and columns to tables.

Supporting your wiki[edit]

Please read VisualEditor/Citation tool for information on configuring the new citation template menu, labeled "Cite". This menu will not appear unless it has been configured on your wiki.

If you speak a language other than English, we need your help with translating the user guide. The guide is out of date or incomplete for many languages, and what's on your wiki may not be the most recent translation. Please contact me if you need help getting started with translation work on MediaWiki.org.

VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Saturday, 19 July 2014 at 21:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas and Pacific Islands) or on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 9:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East, Asia).

To change your subscription to this newsletter, please see the subscription pages on Meta or the English Wikipedia. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 04:59, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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Books and Bytes - Issue 7[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 7, June-July 2014
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • Seven new donations, two expanded partnerships
  • TWL's Final Report up, read the summary
  • Adventures in Las Vegas, WikiConference USA, and updates from TWL coordinators
  • Spotlight: Blog post on BNA's impact on one editor's research

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VisualEditor newsletter—July and August 2014[edit]

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The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.

Screenshot of VisualEditor's link tool
Dialog boxes in VisualEditor have been re-designed to use action words instead of icons. This has increased the number of items that need to be translated. The user guide is also being updated.

The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.

  • Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
  • You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
  • All references and footnotes (<ref> tags) are now made through the "Cite" menu, including the "Basic" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "Insert" menu. The "References list" is still added via the "Insert" menu.
  • When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
  • All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
  • The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
  • The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.

Looking ahead[edit]

The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.

Feedback opportunities[edit]

The Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London. The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30. The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30.

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).

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