User talk:Michael Bednarek

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Kurt Well : Jazz Opera Instrumentation[edit]

You should put these back in because it seems that KW's role as a Jazz Opera Composer is being either suppressed or censored in the current articles about him.

The choice of instruments makes his Leider Music very different, but the current articles say nothing of this.

Jazz Opera Instruments[edit]

Though glossed over, Kurt Well's Lider music used instruments that were novel (for orchestral use) at the time.

Use or lack of use of these instruments changes the sound of the performed music. Opera houses generally use the originally prescribed instruments, but musical theatre performance groups generally don't.

Notably used, not a complete or authoritative list

  • Accordion (The Three Penny Opera)
  • Portable Organ (The Three Penny Opera, Der Alfstig Und Fall Der Stadt Mahagonny)
  • Saxophone (The Three Penny Opera, Der Alfstig Und Fall Der Stadt Mahagonny)
  • Banjo (The Three Penny Opera, Der Alfstig Und Fall Der Stadt Mahagonny)

Eyreland (talk) 01:38, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

The above text, which you added to Kurt Weill, Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny, and The Threepenny Opera, is entirely unsourced and poorly written. Further, it's not clear what point it is trying to make, and consequently, whether it will ever be able to be supported by reliable sources. Somewhat unrelated: you should learn how to sign your contributions to talk pages where you added the text above as well. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:36, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for catching my error[edit]

Hey, thanks for catching that error I'd made using DisamAssist on the Eon page. One tool that DisamAssist provides is to indicate that something intentionally links to a DAB page. I now know that it's not a good idea to use that tool when the link is already of the form X (disambiguation), as it will turn it into X (disambiguation) (disambiguation)|X (disambiguation), which is totally useless. I've gone back and made sure I've corrected other instances of that error. wia (talk) 13:24, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

2015 in classical music etc[edit]

Hello MB: in answer to your query last month on the 2015 in classical music page in your edit there, the answer, of course, is 'no'. However, the edit history of the wikipedian who listed that particular album on that page in the first place explains why it's even there, of course. But you can thus infer why I've added the particular subsequent albums to that section, as a 'contrast'.

Also, as an aside, I would be curious to your opinion as to this potential edit war, as an aside, namely which edit you think is better. Of course, I'm very biased in asking this question. Cheers, DJRafe (talk) 18:25, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Toreador Song[edit]

Hi. I have not seen any other article using the repeat sign. Moreover, what is the problem exactly with the alternative {{pipe}} I used? -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:03, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

The problem can be seen in the version you created where instead of "|: … :|" it shows "|}: … :|}" in the French section. What's the objection against using the magic word {{!}}? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:03, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Aha. Now I see. It was a mistake of mine. I added an extra bracket by accident. It should be OK now. If you read the documentation {{pipe}} is what you need due to Mediawiki parser. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 00:04, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I, too, missed the extra bracket in your edit and I blamed the wrong output on the template {{pipe}} instead; its now indeed correct. Still, I don't see what difference the Mediawiki parser makes in the treatment of that template and the magic word. The output is certainly identical: | (|). -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I am also not sure but the Mdiawiki programmers I asked ensure me there is a difference :) I won't dare ask for details. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Dies irae[edit]

"Music inThe Shining (film) was by Berlioz, not by Wendy Carlos". Funny that in The-Shining-Complete-Motion-Picture-Score-By-Wendy-Carlos says she did it?--RicHard-59 (talk) 14:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Funny that the source you give lists Berlioz' Symphonie fantastique which does indeed quote the Gregorian melody. If it is claimed that Carlos' treatment quotes the Gregorian melody (an unsourced claim so far), that would be incidental and merely a footnote to the use of Berlioz' material – a quotation of a quotation. The scope of Dies Irae#Musical quotations cannot extend to those. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Spur Award updates[edit]

Thanks for the updates to the Spur Award page. I agree they are almost all improvements. The only thing I think is an issue is the integration of the existing category award list WP pages. I updated the list for two categories to use the current name (simply adding "Western") since they still exist, but the two categories you integrated at the top of the list , Spur Award for Best Western Novel and Spur Award for Best Novel of the West, no longer exist as such. I left these alone, since I don't know what to do with them,although they are no longer awarded. I think these two pages are awkward since, for example, Spur Award for Best Western Novel contains both 1985 Best Novel, Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurty, and from 2007-2013 "Best Short Novel". Lonesome Dove cannot be called "short". In 2014 they dropped the Best Short Novel and Best Long Novel categories. As one can see by looking at the pages, they contain a mix of Spur Award categories. I think the categories have changed so much over the years that trying to create pages for each category is the wrong way to go. The site does not do this, listing all categories and winners by year. Should WP use that approach, pulling in all the awards and winners by year into the main Spur Awards page? Or should there be a Spur Awards 1953 page, a Spur Awards 1954 page, etc? Or should the individual pages be nuked since pointing to the winners list at is sufficient? Or? Thanks again for the improvements, and for any advice. --Addledrecluse (talk) 15:15, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

My interest in the article Spur Award originated circuitously in Golden Spur which some time ago needed a hatnote to distinguish it from the Order of the Golden Spur. I have no interest or knowledge of the subject, but I know that the way Wikipedia articles were referred to is not in line with Wikipedia guidelines such as WP:SELFREF. The starting point of my edit was to provide a distinguishing hatnote, then I noticed that none of the authors and their works were linked and I fixed that, and then I eliminated the self-reference by trying to integrate articles for awards into the list. As you describe it, that list and those articles may well require a fresh approach, but I'm not one to participate in that effort. All the best, Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:34, 23 March 2015 (UTC)


Hallo Herr Bednarek - haben Sie zufälligerweise mal im Mergelweg gewohnt? Wenn ja, dann bin ich der Nachbar von schräg gegenüber, damals im Kindergarten. Sie haben uns Ihre Spülmaschine geschenkt. Schöne Grüße an die Familie, auch von meiner Mutter --Cobwebber (talk) 14:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hallo Spinnen-Netzer – meine letzte Addresse in Deutschland war in der Tat Mergelweg 19. Wahrscheinlich war unser Sohn Björn mit dir im Kindergarten. Die Spülmaschine hätten wir nun gerne wieder zurück, da wir vor 2 Wochen von der Racecourse Road, Brisbane, in ein Appartement ohne Spülmaschine in der Ann Street umgezogen sind. Grüße an alle, Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:57, 26 March 2015 (UTC)