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Mig (talk) 20:08, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Mig (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2013 (UTC)==Welcome!==

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Talk page[edit]

"Merry Christmas to everybody and a Happy New Year to all the world!" -- Charles Dickens Happy New Year!! Joyeux Noël. Feliz año nuevo! [edit]

your image question[edit]

Replied at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Calliopejen1 03:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


El Super[edit]

OK, I see what you meant. I've restored El Super and built it into a useful article. No problem! Dlh-stablelights 22:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I thank you, sir or madam. Life is tough for women filmmakers because, for instance, all the things I've done for the guys have never been returned in kind -- on the contrary, they've tried to destroy me. But I get my rewards from other sources -- that's how Karmic Law works. Mig 15:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Orlando Jiménez-Leal[edit]

A tag has been placed on Orlando Jiménez-Leal, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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SorryMig 22:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Comments in the ES Wikipedia[edit]

Discussion of "Búsqueda".

Do you mean that you cant find the article of you? Thats because there isnt any. Else I dont know what you mean. Canislupusarctos 16:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations[edit]

An article about you now appears in the French Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migdia_Chinea-Varela -- Rob C. alias Alarob 23:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Rob -- I sent you a message to your page. Mig 16:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)



Your comments on my username's frontpage.[edit]

I have expressed my views on the subject before to, please, keep the Cuban Americans page because at the very least, it helps with research -- which is what Wikipedia is all about. I started doing research on a poet listed on this page based on the fact that it was there -- as prior to that I never even knew she'd existed. Mig 15:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Greetings, friend, you commented this on my username's frontpage which I haven't started on yet. I think you are trying to comment on this page about AfD for "List of Cuban Americans" Please post there on their petition board about keeping the List of Cuban Americans category not my username's frontpage. If you want to talk to me or discuss other things with me, then use my talk board not my front page:

User talk:Pilot expert

Thank you! --Pilot expert 05:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Why?[edit]

You could have cut down parts of the 2nd and 3rd sections on this.Kfc1864 talk my edits 13:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

What are sections 2nd and 3rd? Not the historical component, I hope. Mig 13:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Mig, Kfc1864 has nominated your userpage for deletion; please see here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Migdiachinea. Please comment if you wish. In the meanwhile, I have restored an earlier version of your page because of copyright concerns and because Wikipedia is not an archive service or a web hosting facility. Please review guidelines for userpages. Please understand that userpages still belong to Wikipedia and are only made available to editors to assist them in their work on the project and to facilitate communication with other editors, and it really is not appropriate to use Wikipedia as a free web-hosting and archiving facility. If you require a free web-hosting facility, we can recommend some free webspace providers where you would be free to archive all of this information, the letters and notes and such as you wish. If the material is related to your work on Wikipedia, you could place a link on your userpage to your webspace, but it is not appropriate to try to host it all on Wikipedia. I hope you understand this, so we can close the request to delete your userpage. Thanks, Sarah 16:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC

Okay, Sarah -- I wasn't using it as a host page. Just informational. I don't have any such pages. This is My Talk. This is okay, right?

Now it's OK. Your userpage and talk page are safe for now.Kfc1864 talk my edits 04:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanx -- please let me know (in a simple way) what is allowed and what isn't. Kindest regards -- Mig 12:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The LAUSD comments[edit]

I linked to the article at WorldNet Daily :) WhisperToMe (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

By the way, here is a nice article about a teacher who taught at Berendo MS in LAUSD for awhile: [1] - this was in the 1990s, but I doubt much has changed. Geib was never severely attacked, but he felt like a failure even with his efforts and eventually quit. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Spanish Wikipedia[edit]

Have you tried writing an article about yourself in the Spanish Wikipedia? No, I simply posted a letter in Spanish in my User's or Discussion Page. Oh, I missed your question -- should I write one? I don't have a Spanish-language program. For my published letter to our President, I had to make some creative incredible hulkess moves to get the appropriate accents on top of vowels. Mig 17:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)Mig 04:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

You may want to try a magnet school or a school in an exclusive area such as Pacific Palisades HS, Sherman Oaks CES, Los Angeles CES, etc. WhisperToMe 20:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

BTW, on your qestion above -- LAUSD wants to finish me off. Mig 08:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Your talk page[edit]

Anyone may edit any comments in the talk page, just like in an article talk page. Of course, you are free to revert messages in it too. Just make sure that nobody edits what you say, and you should be fine. Check out Wikipedia:Talk pages and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines, which give guidelines on the use of talk pages :) WhisperToMe (talk) 04:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for responding so quickly. Mig 04:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you know Spanish, it would be nice to have an article written in Spanish :) - Regarding entering diacritics, you may use the Windows "Character Map" to input them - I know there are keyboard shortcuts, but I am not sure about how to use them. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanx, Whispertome, for the diacritic tips -- that's a $50.00 word, fer sure. I know most of the Spanish grammatical rules just from reading in Spanish and applying. I will try to handle the task when I'm feeling better. Regards on the first day of Chanukah Mig 16:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year to All

Mig 00:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)Mig 02:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear WhisperToMe (talk): I consider my being on Wikipedia a privilege for which I'm honored. That being said, if I have something to say on any subject, I say so in an article somewhere and I sign my name to it. Whatever small edits I have done here and there, I also sign my name. I was, thus, wondering if within your high-tech level of WP knowledge, you may be able to tell which computer the LAUSD comments came from? I have never discussed my password with anyone at all, in fact, I have since the incident changed my password. I am, however, concerned that someone with a high level of computer sophistication may be watching me closely and hacking my password at whim. And that this spammer, in question, may use me as a tool to further his/her cause, whatever that may be. Please, let me know. In the meantime have a very Happy New First Day of 2008.Mig 21:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Figuring out where the LAUSD comments came from[edit]

Mrs. Chinea, you will have to ask a Wikipedia:Developer that question - Regular users and sysops alone cannot determine the IP address of a registered user (including yourself and the person who pretended to be you).

Anyhow, I would suggest avoiding using your account while on public computers and checking your own computer for keyloggers. Wikipedia has a technique to disable "brute force" password crackers (The "repeat the words in this image" trick), so if someone repeatedly finds your passwords, it could be due to a keylogger. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanx, WhisperToMe for your response and I will take appropriate measures to see if I learn more about what happened and how to identify the hacker. I used my account here while I was working at LAUSD, but have never used a "public" computer. I wonder if the problem comes from LAUSD, given the rage I've seen and the subject matter. Oh, BTW, I'm "Ms." because Chinea is my dad's family name. Thanx for addressing me so respectfully, however. Mig 01:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

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Vandals[edit]

Ah, my school in HISD had some holiday thieves - they weren't as outrageous as the ones in the article, and they seemed pretty stupid. They stole a laptop for a handicapped girl and an older computer but they didn't take a newer computer. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Gee, a handicapped girl. But taking an old computer instead of the newer one tells me that they're totally illiterate, as well as dishonest, about these things. Figures. Mig 05:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, think of whether it's a legitimate phone message or some prankster who wants a laugh. From my understand I suspect the latter... I don't personally know you nor do I know your situation. Anyhow, if you feel that the warnings are legitimate, then I would contact a police agency - Which one, I don't know. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Deleted info -- --Mig 03:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the ED link - I referenced it here - School violence WhisperToMe (talk) 20:39, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, WhisperToMe (talk) Gosh, thanx -- here are some websites you may already know about that have 2005 information. http://nces.ed.gov/index.asp http://www.laspd.com/newcrimebyschool.asp http://www.cahro.org/html/lausd_procedures.html I didn't know any of this. Did you see my WND interview? --Mig 22:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

  • I'll see how I can properly mention his name :) WhisperToMe (talk) 16:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

We thank you!! Mig 17:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)--Mig 17:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

It may sound odd, but that is the principal's counter-argument, as stated in the article. A legal court has not ruled on the matter yet. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, WhisperToMe I saw that. But since the case has not been decided, my benefit of the doubt would fall with the teacher. The district will "write teachers up" for calling security during a melee instead of containing the classroom themselmes, for example. It sucks. Beto seeems like such a creative teacher -- and there are precious few of those left around. Regards -- Mig 14:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)--Mig 14:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

White Hispanic, signature[edit]

"bad day".
Yeah, I figured that ... As for your signature, make sure that you're using four tildes and not five; that might be it. Well, good luck. SamEV (talk) 02:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow, still having signature trouble? Click on "my preferences" and clear the Signature box if there's anything in it; also uncheck the "Raw signature" box, if it's currently checked of course. If that still doesn't do it, ask the experts here. Good luck again. SamEV (talk) 18:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I unchecked the "signature box." Thanx -- why is it always the small things? Mig 01:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


Marking Castro's Stepping Down From Power - February 19, 2008[edit]

Castro steps down.

After 50 years of communist dictatorship, I tend to think that the island will move to the future eventually and in that regard there's much to do. It's the glass half-full. Therefore, I feel bittersweet about the news. The practical Cuban infrastructure (streets, electrical, architecture, plumbing, etc., etc., etc.,), is mostly gone -- whereas a strong government-based legacy of repression and political infrastructure remains. Cuban-exiles, the least understood of all U.S. ethnic minorities, and their Cuban-American offspring everywhere in the world, would be right to respond cautiously to all the rhetoric that will surely follow.

It's probably a good time to get some guava pastries at some local Cuban bakery and have a quiet private celebration -- I'm having half a glass of wine.

Love to all --

Migdia Chinea --

Image[edit]

I it is not possible for you to delete an image but I can do so because I am an administrator. Let me see about the image uploads and see if I can find any redundancies. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 20:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

  • EDIT: It seems like you uploaded both instances to the same location so I don't think there is a need to delete any instances of the image. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Blacklist[edit]

Users are not placed on blacklists - links are.

The blacklist notice should state which link is offending - You can remove it, comment it out (Surround it with <!-- on the first side and --> on the second), or put nowiki on it. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a screenshot of the error message? WhisperToMe (talk) 22:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The page said that lulu . com was blacklisted. There was no blacklist attempt against you. What happened is that a previous post had lulu.com and that was added to the spam filter. In other words, an edit would not pass UNLESS the edit included a nowiki, a comment out, or removal of the lulu link. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

You didn't do anything wrong. You weren't intending to spam - See, it just happens that the URL was blacklisted long after you posted it - The thing is that nobody would be able to post on that talk page until the blacklist URL was dealt with. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone added it to a URL blacklist. I forget where it is but I know Wikipedia keeps a list of URLs to blacklist. Regarding small text, I'll have to see. - it's probably due to a <small> without a corresponding </small> WhisperToMe (talk) 18:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Lemme see if I can fix the section - In the meantime it's not a good idea to post large chunks of newspaper articles like that, as they are copyrighted. Also, we can only report on the tort letter thing once it becomes a legal case documented in the media. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Can you post a link to the article? My letter is not yet in the media, so you're right. I posted it out of anger at their denial, for example, "teaching" Mandarin when the students cannot even write English. Everyone already knows that a huge percentage of students are not graduating at all and will probably rely on criminality and welfare to survive -- all according to news reports world wide. Regards and much love and thanx -- Mig (talk) 21:41, 2 April 2008 (UTC) http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-principal13mar13,0,5522349.story -This is the link to the article I was talking about - It has two pages. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC) Yes. I know the article and the man himself. That's the school where I was assulted. I warned the District and it ignored me -- like they do everyone. Mig (talk) 22:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

French article[edit]

Thanks for the link to the French article linking to Migdia Chinea Varela. I moved the link from "External links" to the left-hand column under "languages," where links to other Wikipedias go. I'll also make sure the French article links to English Wikipedia. -- ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 22:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rob -- where are the languages? Mig (talk) 23:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Look in the left-hand column under the Wikipedia globe. When an article has a counterpart on another Wikipedia, it will appear at the bottom of the column under the heading "languages."
This is done by adding code at the end of the article. For Migdia Chinea Varela I added [[fr:Migdia Chinea-Varela]], and the French article has [[en:Migdia Chinea Varela]]. -- ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 18:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Duh! Thanx for the explanation -- I never saw that! Double duh! There's also one in Spanish, BTW, but it's not as nice as the one in French. Seeing me in French makes me want to jump on a plane and go. Mig -- Mig (talk) 22:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Huh, I couldn't find one on the Spanish 'Pedia. I did google the others, and found your name on the Italian 'Pedia with three articles on Episodi di l'Incredible Hulk. :-) -- ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 22:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm criss-crossing the world! Let me see if I find the Spanish thing. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Migdiachinea Uhmmm -- hay que borrar esto en cuanto sea leido. Mig (talk) 22:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Editing the article[edit]

I don't expect the biographical info you added to be removed, but if it is, it will probably be because it is not "reliably sourced." That is, it has to be published somewhere reliable. There’s more about it at WP:RS.

Hope you are doing OK these days. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 19:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

It's about my grandfather. There's not much known here about that stuff behind the sugar cane curtain. I'll see if I can get a separate source. So much to do, though. Have been accepted into the UCLA Theater, Film and TV for my Masters. Thanx so much for asking -- regards and forgiveness. M --

("The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.191.132.102 (talk) 02:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The Cuban government never responded to my query. I have a picture of my grandfather in full military regalia, which attests to his charge. But unless I do the research in Miami, I don't believe the Cuban government will be very helpful in this case. How do you post a picture here? --Mig (talk) 16:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Josie's eye.png[edit]

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These images belong to me and I've requested a copyright under federal copyright law. However, it's been months and I've yet to receive it. I'm the film 's director, producer, writer, editor, etc. It's my film.

Thank you all --

Mig (talk) 04:04, 1 October 2011 (UTC) )

October 2011[edit]

Hello Migdiachinea. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

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  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

Hi -- I added some images and information that belong to me and only I can provide.

Thank you --Mig (talk) 14:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. DreamGuy (talk) 14:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Dreamguy -- other people are constructing the "anonymous (street meat)" page. I've just provided information about the images, festivals and copyright. Thank you -- Mig (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Photo copyrights[edit]

I have undone your edit at Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. Please read the page again, as it is telling you how to send evidence of permission by email. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:00, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

migdia chinea[edit]

The notability of this page has never been in question -- I was the first Hispanic woman to join the Wruiters Guild of America, west -- and have other firsts. Thank you.Mig (talk) 15:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Hi Migdiachinea!

I have put together a survey for female editors of Wikipedia (and related projects) in order to explore, in greater detail, women's experiences and roles within the Wikimedia movement. It'd be wonderful if you could participate!

It's an independent survey, done by me, as a fellow volunteer Wikimedian. It is not being done on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation. I hope you'll participate!

Just click this link to participate in this survey, via Google!

Any questions or concerns, feel free to email me or stop by my user talk page. Also, feel free to share this any other female Wikimedians you may know. It is in English, but any language Wikimedia participants are encouraged to participate. I appreciate your contributions - to the survey and to Wikipedia! Thank you! SarahStierch (talk) 06:20, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Conflict of interest and autobiography[edit]

Hello Migdiachinea. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Anonymous (Street Meat), you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
  2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to you, your organization or its competitors; and
  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:55, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Please heed the warning given above; Wikipedia is not here for you to publicize yourself, your films, etc. --Orangemike (talk) 15:22, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Dear Orange Mike -- although it is my film, I think it's a subject that is timely with humanistic values. The quality of the film is excellent and it's been selected to 24 film festivals worldwide. Of note, is the fact that no one at UCLA had been able to accomplish this while a student at UCLA -- hence their Bruin article. So it attests as to the value of the production and the subject-matter. This is not publicity because all of what has already been accomplished has been accomplished without Wikipedia. I'm being interviewed for the HP this morning. Thank you for your comments and support. Mig (talk) 16:50, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


Please can you supply a reference for the "honorable mention" as the one supplied does not support it and without it the article would fail WP:Notability Kind regards.Theroadislong (talk) 17:11, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

from California Int'l Shorts Festival info@calshorts.com toMigdia Chinea <migdia.chinea@deletedemailaddress.com>

dateWed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:06 PM subjectRe: Need Film Festival Logos Important mainly because it was sent directly to you.

hide details Aug 10

Hello Migdia,

We've attached our festival logo and your honorable mention laurel to this message. Have a wonderful day.

Best, Tim

Mig (talk) 18:05, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

ANONYMOUS (STREET MEAT)[edit]

THIS PAGE IS LEGITIMATE. Why is it being taken down bit bit? I have contacted the California International Film Festival for verification by email from them directly. Where can this email be submitted? It's possible that something went wrong with their page. My film is in their archives. Mig (talk) 21:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Please have a look at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Information in Wikipedia articles must already have been published in sources such as books, newspapers and respected online news sources. If the information can only be verified by emailing someone, then it cannot be posted in an article; there is no system here for submission of facts by email.
You can help to improve the Anonymous (Street Meat) article by finding news coverage about the film. Did any news media report on the "Honorable Mention"? If they did, please post it on the article talk page - publication name, date, page number, URL if available. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
(later)
Comments like this one won't win you any friends here. Please refer to Wikipedia:No personal attacks.
Why are you so keen to have Saturday Night Special (film) cleaned up? I doubt if the editors working on Anonymous (Street Meat) have even noticed that article - there are over 3.7 million articles at Wikipedia to work on, after all. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:49, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

That other short is the example I've seen and it's so blatant. That's why. No there are no articles that I recall about the California International Film Festival because there was little or no publicity that I recall. I've asked its director to verify. I have the "Honorable Mention" logo, which they sent to me from their email address and I've selected, copied and pasted here with so-so results. I am unable AND disinterested in manipulating stuff. If there are 3.7 million articles, as you've pointed out, why are you being so nitpicky about this one item that I've tried to verify in several different ways? I mean, I have sent emails to Wikipedia commons and attachments -- I don't know what you want from me that you apparently do not expect from others. So is this ABOUT ME? Can you tell me why you're dismantling "anonymous (street meat)" bit by bit? I think it's unfair that I'm called to defend personal attacks when people are ganging up on me and calling me a liar just as I'm trying -- with limited expertise -- to comply with a request. I'm a real human being with feelings and you're singling me out. Mig (talk) 21:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I thank you for your help. The Huffington Post article about "anonymous (street meat)" and the banks will be published around Nov. 1st. If any of this is still up, I'll link it. Meanwhile, my stomach hurts. My intentions are honorable. It's a good film and it's going to be exposed to more publicity once the Huffington Post article comes out and the film is selected to various cause festivals. I thank you for your trouble as I move on. Kind regards, Mig (talk) 22:51, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Anonymous (Street Meat) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Anonymous (Street Meat) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anonymous (Street Meat) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. FunkyCanute (talk) 12:57, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

KEEP anonymous (street meat)[edit]

Dear friends -- the image of the eye was restored (gun image was not) -- all images are available in "anonymous (street meat)" Google images, please, take a look. https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/132e812637a7fb8e

However, the file was truncated. Here's an example of different treatment -- the short "Saturday Evening Special" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Special_(film).

Meranwhile, I was interviewed by someone from the Huffington Post yesterday. The interview centered on my inspiration for "anonymous (street meat)" -- a 2-year ordeal with Bank of America. With demonstrations and movements like "Occupy Wall Street" going on against Wall Street and the too-big-to-fail banks, thet script for "anonymous (street meat)" was ahead of time by having a plot that dealt with bank abuse with harrowing images. That's why the film has been well received at festivals abroad -- in Seoul Korea, for one, it was screened in over 14,000 monitors throughout the city. The HP article will link up to "anonymous (street meat)" and it's schedule for publication on November 1st, or earlier.

The articles on the Daily Bruin and the upcoming one on the Huffington Post are of relevancy socio-politically, so it's not without importance. The Bruin article itself is not quoted, but if anyone reads it, they can see that the short has social significance because its conception came out of issues that are being in the country's political sphere right now -- events that occurred to me. But it appears that people delete without first reading or considering. The fact that I'm a Hispanic woman is alone of some note because I'm part of a tiny minority of filmmakers. That I'm a female professional screenwriter of Hispanic background who returned to UCLA for a Master's after working as a professional for years may also be interesting to some historians. I, personally, would be interested in reading a Wikipedia page about a notable Eskimo female filmmaker with a short in 24 film festivals and in some similar circumstances, for example. If there are any.

Here's one instance used as an example of editorial bias: The Saturday Night Special Wikipedia page, for one, doesn't have any references -- it is instead laudatory of that film to the point that when I happened upon it, I was surprised to see that and tried to flag it for an edit, not a deletion, an edit. Some people here have defended that film and reinstate it. Additionally, that page quotes from articles that are not linked. And even if they were linked, why quote stuff that reads like a publicity page.

"anonymous (street meat)" is important and should be maintained for the reference of other Latino and/or women filmmakers, as well as the general public at large.

Thank you for your support in this endeavor --

Kind regards, Mig (talk) 16:24, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Have you read through [[2]] I think it might help you to understand the problems you are having keeping the article. You might also be interested to see that Saturday Night Special (film) has been nominated for deletion. All good wishesTheroadislong (talk) 16:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Understood[edit]

Dear theroadislong:

I think that when the Huffington Post article comes out, it will give it further historical context -- already discussed in the Bruin piece. Please, note that nothing from the Bruin article was quoted on the Wikipedia page. That all I tried to do was clarify the text in an objective -- not editorial -- manner. That nothing was submitted prior to the film being selected to numerous festivals. That I have not benefitted in any way from the film being here. But if anyone out there looks up Hispanic filmmakers, it would be nice that they could see there's a woman laboring in the filed and that her film had socio-political relevance. "Saturday Night Special" with all due respect and in my humble opinion, has no social relevancy -- it doesn't break any ground. It's a commercial venture with a Wikipedia page written for the purpose of publicizing its fimmaker. For that purpose, there are other venues.

You know, the people who break ground for others are worthy of note. I could name a few that come to mind -- and these have often been people who were not in and of themselves famous or accomplished. These are ordinary people who do things before anyone else and against the tide of indifference or discrimination -- usually both -- and facilitate the efforts of others who will follow. They are called trail blazers for that reason.

Thank you and have a great day -- Mig (talk) 17:14, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

FYI, Saturday Night Special (film) was deleted. It went through the AfD process a few years ago and was deleted. It was recreated afterward with no substantial change, so it was deleted again. For your film, please see WP:GNG. There needs to be significant coverage from numerous reliable sources about the film. The Bruin piece is not enough. Erik (talk | contribs) 03:39, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know what you're saying Erik. There will be an article on the Huffinton Post in a couple of weeks, which may trigger more articles and I don't know what's out there from the festivals because they're all different countries in various languages. I thank you for your contribution. I'm making a film "Ninth Floor" which takes on where "anonymous (street meat)" left off. I need to put a lot of my effort in that -- even if sleep is coming as a luxury these days and I'm rarely able to get any rest. Kind regards -- Mig (talk) 04:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Small Edit In Your Userpage[edit]

I have done a small edit in your userpage. There was a notice: ''Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{Reflist}} template or a <references /> tag'';, I have added the reflist in the page. Since it is not a Wikipedia article, and a userpage, you may revert the change if you think you don't need it there. Thanks! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 04:04, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Saturday Night Special[edit]

I saw your message at Talk:Saturday Night Special (film) and replied there. I don't know whether you saw the reply, but as the page was tagged for deletion I kept a copy so that I could post it here if need be:

I suspect that the difference between this article and Anonymous (Street Meat) is that Wikipedia has better systems in place today for reviewing new articles than it did back in 2007. That's only a guess, because I only started editing seriously in 2010. This article slipped through in 2007 and hasn't attracted much attention until now. There's no deliberate "double standard"; it wasn't "allowed to remain", it just wasn't noticed.
This article, Saturday Night Special (film) could still be rescued and expanded if it turns out that the subject has been written about in reliable sources, enough to show that the film passes WP:GNG and WP:NFILM. Then the unsourced stuff could be stripped out and a sourced, quality article written instead.
The same goes for Anonymous (Street Meat) and any other film article you care to name. If your film attracts enough media attention to pass WP:NFILM then I expect someone will re-create the article. (But as I've mentioned before, articles are not normally written by the film's creator because of the conflict of interest).

-- John of Reading (talk) 06:58, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: migdia chinea[edit]

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Misplaced edit[edit]

Quite by accident, it's me again. I have undone your edit at Help:Using talk pages. I assume you meant to put this on the talk page of a film article somewhere; you actually edited one of the help pages. An easy slip to make! -- John of Reading (talk) 16:31, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

about Anonymous (Street Meat)[edit]

After disussion the article was deleted for not (currently) meeting notability standards. Do not be disheartened. IF you contact User:BigDom on his talk page and make the request, he will be glad to place it in your userspace User:Migdiachinea/workspace/Anonymous (Street Meat) so that you an continue work, get input from other editors, and have it ready for the expceted new sources when they become available. And when you feel it is ready for a return to article space, ask User:BigDom to look at it and he can judge its readiness. Do not just move it back to article without seeking input from him. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 18:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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File:Josie.pdf listed for deletion[edit]

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Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.[edit]

Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the #wikimedia-office connect IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

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Editing your own article[edit]

I'm afraid I have removed the extra material that you added at Migdia Chinea Varela, as it was not backed up by any reliable, published sources. Information in Wikipedia articles must be linked to published sources so that readers can, at least in theory, check it for themselves. Please also review the message at #Conflict of interest and autobiography, further up this page. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:01, 24 September 2012 (UTC) yes. thank you -- too much going on.  :( get carried away by life events Mig (talk) 22:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)Mig (talk) 20:55, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

There's lots of stuff that is backed up by professional information and articles, as I'm an outspoken person. However, because the material is not well-researched, as it should, it appears one-sided and that is NOT fair to me. There's more to my life and my interests -- qualities and ambitions -- than a lawsuit in which I was not the only person involved and which was ignited on principle -- the principle of equal work for equal pay and the notion that setting aside half-pay by virtue of ethnicity is simply wrong. I received nothing as a result -- not a dime. Instead, I was blacklisted. Please, understand that that unless coverage is made fair to me as a human being, what is there appears biased and I can't have it. I work too hard and have sacrificed too much for that -- thank you and kindest regards -- Mig (talk) 16:41, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Migdia Chinea Varela, you may be blocked from editing. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:22, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did to Migdia Chinea Varela, without verifying it by citing reliable sources. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:22, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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June 2013[edit]

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Thanx BracketBot -- please, don't date incorrect and hurtful. Thanx for discretion. Mig (talk) 02:18, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello again! BracketBot is a robot - it doesn't do "discretion". But I have fixed the unbalanced bracket that it was trying to tell you about. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)Mig (talk) 06:29, 9 June 2013 (UTC) This is sort of funny - thanx :)

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Migdia Chinea[edit]

page being vandalized by a Timmy43 -- not a user, a vandal. Please place a lock on the page!

"A harmless drudge"[edit]

I've removed your comment from John of Reading, because that page, without a "User:" or "User talk:" prefix, is the encyclopedia article about the theologian. But, to answer your question, the phrase was originally used by Samuel Johnson; it's mentioned in the Wikipedia article "A Dictionary of the English Language". -- John of Reading (talk) 16:10, 11 June 2013 (UTC) Ok. I think I remember the reference. More like a Gollum. Well. Thanx -- Mig (talk) 16:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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Information icon Please do not write or add to an article Migdia Chinea Varela. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Delete Page[edit]

I'm being railroaded due do poor editing skills. I ask you to delete the Migdia Chinea page if you will persist in adding incorrect or harmful information on it. I'm on survival mode with no job and have NO time to be familiarizing myself with extensive and confusing protocol. I ask you to remove this page. Thank you. Mig (talk) 14:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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I'm being railroaded due do poor editing or skills. I ask you to delete the Migdia Chinea page if you will persist in putting incorrect or harmful information on it. I'm on survival mode with no job and have NO time to be familiarizing myself with extensive and confusing protocol. I ask you to remove this page. Thank you. Mig (talk) 15:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Migdia, sorry for the trouble this is causing to you. Wikipedia usually does not delete pages on request of an article subject, and it looks dimly on editors editing pages about themselves. If you wish deletion to be sought, your best bet is convincing some experienced editor to file a discussion at Articles for Deletion. Beware however that it is by no means guaranteed that the article will be deleted after that -it depends on the consensus of editors there. Hope it helps. --Cyclopiatalk 15:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

That won't be necessary as an administrator Gamaliel has handled this issue and it's all good. Mig (talk) 21:27, 18 June 2013 (UTC) Thanx. I need all my time to take care of serious issues.

October 2013[edit]

Please do not use IMDb as a source and please do not edit an article about yourself. Instead, if you want something in the article, please put your request on the article's talk page, providing a reference to a reliable source.

To make sure it doesn't just languish there, I'd be happy to review anything you put on the talk page and try to either insert it or try to explain why I can't.

I've got the article listed on my watchlist, which notifies me when a change is made to the article or it's talk page. But if you want to put a note on my talk page, too, when you've made such a request, I'd be cool with that.

For "Director", reliable sources would be articles about a movie or movies you've directed, appearing in a reputable newspaper(s) or periodical(s). http://dailybruin.com/2011/05/25/grad_student_midgia_chinea039s_film_039anonymous_street_meat039_selected_for_cannes_short_film_festi/ I've directed this one and three others. http://www.polishfilmla.org/wocms.php?siteID=13&ID=636 -- all I did is update the entry -- this is NOT an article to which I've made edits. Thank you so much -- Mig (talk) 19:32, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. We're really not out to make your life more difficult. Just to follow our rules. David in DC (talk) 19:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC) I guess that it's not ok for a woman to be a director -- that's what I see - unless she's validated, not by her work and/or the festivals in which her work is exhibited at great cost to those people who do that, nor even the article written about her, or the websites (to which she has no access) in which she's mentioned. It's not ok for that woman to be a director -- regardless of having spent three and a half years in an institution of higher learning getting her MFA in film at astronomical expense. No. Unless there's a churri burri article by some approved periodical (not the bruin) in which it's said that she's a director VERBATIM, her work DOES NOT COUNT and SHE IS NOT A DIRECTOR!!! Thank you and kind regards Mig (talk) 20:21, 27 October 2013 (UTC) . I now know the score. Thank you.

The Bruin article was already in the sources, but I've used it as reference for some additional facts, including "director". I also used the HuffPo piece for some additional facts, and added some film festival programs as refs for both Street Meat and "Kninth Floor". Finally, I put a tag at the top of the page to remind people leave unsourced derogatory info out and asking for help referencing additional facts. I hope you find the reslting page an improvement.David in DC (talk) 01:02, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi David -- yes, I saw it. Thank you. I'm waiting to hear from other festivals regarding my new film "Old Havana..." which was screened recently at the PFF. I'm moving totally into production, so I have left certain other activities behind in history dust. We'll see what shakes. I hate derogatory stuff -- usually not based on facts and only intended to demean me. Arrgggg. It's like they're watching in dark corners and waiting to pounce. Thanx again :). Mig (talk) 01:52, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I forgot to make a small correction. The polish FF screening of "Kninth Floor" was in 2012. In 2013 (two weeks ago) they screened my film "Old Havana..." Cinematography by Maks Naporiwski. Full title available on their site. http://www.polishfilmla.org/wocms.php?siteID=12&ID=713 Please delete after reviewing. Thank you so much! Mig (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2013 (UTC) Mig (talk) 17:30, 31 October 2013 (UTC) Date correction, please. Thank you kindly --Mig (talk) 17:30, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

User page vs article[edit]

WP protocol asks that if a userpage contains article information, which is then turned into, or incorporated into, an actual article, that the article info on the user page be removed, as it becomes increasingly out of step with the article. I wanted to give you a heads up on this. If you dont respond after a while (maybe a month), i may blank the info and leave the link that i provided, to your article. you can definitely write about yourself on your userpage, but it cant appear to be overly promotional (like a resume), and should not follow article style. I dont recommend you edit your own article, but if you wanted to seriously revamp it, you would make a copy of at at your Sandbox, and work on it there-but this could also be blanked if you left it there too long without working on it. This is not meant as a warning, but as friendly advice. userpages look better to the average reader if they focus on your interests at WP. I would gather a good example is User:Jimbo Wales. And, i will now take the time to actually read your article, and familiarize myself with your professional work, as i came here from editing around Luis J. Rodriguez (the politican/writer), and his talk page.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 20:05, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

French WP talk page[edit]

the talk page at your french WP article contains a letter, apparently written to a newspaper. If this was published in a newspaper, you (or the newspaper) maintain copyright, i believe, and thus it should NOT be reproduced at the talk page in full. the letter begins:

"Neither tacos nor brie"

New York Times columnist Judith Warner said (No Laughing Matter, Sept. 11, 2008), "In Republican crowds, I find, I feel particularly small. And dark."

and ends:

This exclusivity of thought is a form of intellectual assault, people. Neither tacos nor brie.

If you wish this to not be released under a free license, you can request the material be deleted.

PS. i watched the Kninth Floor at Vimeo. I liked the dialogue between the old man and the young woman: excellent depiction of what could either be the truth, or a schizophrenic person-have you met anyone who is schizophrenic? i also liked the images of the two latino men in the elevator, very striking. I had trouble following the story, but im getting older and avant garde film expression is probably harder for me to follow. I havent yet watched the "old havana" clip. I added a little bit to your article, and added an english language wikiquote page. I'm sorry your experience here has been somewhat unpleasant. I know we can get pretty testy when people edit their own article, but that shouldnt excuse rudeness or hostility.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:28, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

More nonsense[edit]

I took the liberty of rewriting your userpage, based on your "thanking" me for my comments above. I know its your page, but i wanted to offer my knowledge of proper userpage formatting. please alter as you wish.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:56, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Bold textHi Mercury -- thanks for your advice -- :) there are updates to my career, but I can't update my page. I'll be traveling to Cannes in May to promote my new film a short in competition there "Old Havana and the Great Pimp of San Isidro", Screened at the Polish Film Festival, now in preproduction as "The Prince of Old Havana" -- please review my website under construction theprinceofoldhavana.com Thanks again! (was unable to save this to your talk page -- but if I did, please delete) M Mig (talk) 21:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I will check out the site, and i will add information to your article as it becomes notable. hopefully, your feature film will be received well enough to warrant an article. I dont get to decide, the world decides by writing about it. I don't know why I adopt some articles to work on, its sort of random, but for now im focussing a bit on yours, hope its done well.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:11, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I corrected a couple of errors on my own message. E.g., theprinceofoldhavana.com -- everything has been so much work. But I hope you visit the site, the teaser there will have a narration and everything will be art directed and refined. I am volunteering at UCLA's AAP as a creative writing mentor and will be in a panel of experts there in May designed to increased awareness of the "benefits" of higher education by those who have actually endured it -- MFAs and PhDs in various disciplines. Thanks so much for your interest in my small world.  :) M --Mig (talk) 02:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC).

Polish Film Festival link re:  "Old Havana. ..." 

http://www.polishfilmla.org/wocms.php?siteID=12&ID=713Mig (talk) 20:08, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Update[edit]

for ease of editing, i will respond to your comments on my talk page.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 17:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

important notice (not bad) there now.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Mercurywoodrose@yahoo.com.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 21:42, 1 March 2014 (UTC)