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Happy Birthday[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia and Happy Birthday! I saw your birthday listed on meta. I hope you have a great day. SWAdair | Talk 07:33, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Navahradak[edit]

Could you address the question at Talk:Navahradak, please? Mikkalai 00:47, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Byelorussia[edit]

During World War II Belarus was part of the USSR, whose official language was Russian. Byelorussia was the spelling used in English at that time and should be used in articles relating to that time. Adam 13:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Are you sure encyclopedia should use wrong (in English language sense) words simply because it seems they were considered right in some period of time? May be articles about Shakespeare should use old English spelling or smth?
Explanation of my point: Byelorussia (as Belorussia, Belorus and various others) are words that are (and were) wrongly used (due to Cyrillic-to-Latin translation of own names problem) to describe Belarusian territory (it means, territory where Belarusians live; or territory of Republic of Belarus; or territory of Belarusian SSR; or some other nearby meanings). The only English word that is ok to be used to name this territory (in any time period; you know, in neolyte there was some other "official language" - should we use some other word to name Belarus in that period?) is Belarus, for sure. There is no such word as "Byelorussia" in English now - so why anybody should read it in articles?
You surely can't call usual English language word, used to describe territory (and people, and language, and so on) "anachronism". --Monkbel 13:52, 20 May 2005 (UTC)


If you do this again I will report you for vandalism. Adam 10:28, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

? do you stand for the point that wikipedia should be extremely incorrect? yes I know you won't bother for a moment to answer me... if you'll revert me I will report you for vandalism. --Monkbel 10:30, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I already explained to you why your edits are wrong. There was no such place as Belarus during World War II, since the country was then called Byelorussia in English. Making edits which you know to be incorrect just to make a political point is vandalism. So stop doing so. Adam 10:39, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

and I already explained you that your point is wrong. There WAS such place as Belarus during World War II (Belarusian SSR and so on). The point is that for some period of time the wrong spelling was used to name it; that's why it could be understood that in books of that period there could be such words as "Byelorussian" or "Belorussian". But en: wikipedia is written in modern English, so it should not use any old spelling, because for now it is just mistake. Or would you edit Shakespeare article to switch it to 16th century English just because it was so in his times? --Monkbel 10:45, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Byelorussia was the standard English spelling, and that is what an article about World War II should use. This is an English-language encyclopaedia whether you like it or not. Adam 10:53, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And that is what I mean. This is an English-language encyclopaedia whether you like it or not. So be so kind to use English spelling, not some irrelevant one. --Monkbel 10:55, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You asked me on my talk page:

why do you revert corrections of language mistakes? do you really think there are such words as "Belorussian" or "Byelorussia" or some other in English and these should be used? Did you try to check Google or any "official" encyclopedia about these? --Monkbel 16:43, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I have already answered that question on Talk:3rd Belorussian Front. The term "Belorussian Front" is used in English language military history books. Of which the most recent one I have is Berlin - The Downfall 1945, by Antony Beevor first published in 2002.

German Divisions - Belarus?[edit]

Hi Monkbel,

Please do not 'correct' the word Byelorussian in the Kaminski Brigade and Dirlewanger Brigade articles. According to the German TOE of the time, these were classed as Byelorussian NOT Belarusian formations. Belarus, while existing as a place, was not considered an independent entity from the USSR, and the region was called Byelorussia (or Belorussia). But i'm sure you already know this. --Ansbachdragoner 05:07, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

While I am surprised I have not run into you yet, but I am glad that I am not the only person editing Belarusian topics. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 15:48, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Hello :). I am glad too. it is surely unusual you have not run into me yet, since I have been editing Belarusian topics before you began doing that (as I see). And, if you're here already, may I ask you a question? Why are you interested in Belarusian topics? I have read your userpage and it has no answers to this question, it seems quite unexpected :). --Monkbel 18:15, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
I began studying Belarus in 2001 when I was doing some research on their flag for a website. And, after a few months, I got really interested in Belarus. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 21:57, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Belarus-geo-stub[edit]

Hi - I note you've recently created a new stub category. Did you realise that stub categories should normally be cleared by Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting before creation? It is clearly stated on almost every stub-related page and in almost every stub category that this should be done. That way they can be vetted to check that there are a viable number of stubs (at least 60-100) and that the category does not cross the existing stub hierarchy before the stub is created.

If you can provide any information on why the stub was created, please add a note to entry for the stub at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Newly-discovered stub categories giving the reason for it. In addition, if there is any Wikiproject associated with the stub add that information. Thanks.

In the case of this stub, the creation of a Belarus-specific geography stub category has been turned down in the past, as it did not reach the threshold for the necessary number of stubs. Even now it's not really at the mark, but it will probably survive rather than being sent for deletion.

It would have been very useful to have proposed the stub at WP:WSS/P prior to creation, and followed the standard procedures such as putting it onto the list of stub types at WP:WSS/ST. If the stub sorters don't know a stub exists, it is not going to get used. Grutness...wha? 05:46, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

sorry, i didn't know about such complex procedure of new stub creation. I just noticed that there is need for such a stub and created it (and put link to it at the Category:Europe geography stubs page), because it was needed for just a single article (at least), I thought it was enough. Now we can see that there are more than 50 such articles. Sorry if this disturbed you or anybody else, in the future (if there will be need for new stub) I will propose stubs to WP:WSS prior to creation. --Monkbel 13:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Belarusophobia[edit]

See histories of List of Belarusians and List of Russians. mikka (t) 21:52, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

I see. thanks. admins should ban these vandals. Unfortunately, vandalism is usual on wikipedia now :(. i just can't see how can i help now --Monkbel 10:33, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Lokomotiv Moscow[edit]

Official full name it has registered with the Russian Professional Football League to play in the Russian championship under has "Moscow railroad" in it: http://www.rfpl.org/clubs.shtml?team=5&act=info

It should be a mistake on rfpl site. Official site of FCLM [1] says that official name is Football club "Lokomotiv" Moscow. I think official documents and sites of organisation itself should be believed first when you're speaking about official name of that organisation. --Monkbel 20:33, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Right now their official site is broken and most pages don't work, so I'll have to check it after they fix it. However, their domain name is registered to [2] Football Club Lokomotiv-MZD. It would be weird if they would make the exact same mistake when applying formally for the participation in the Russian championship's Premier League AND when registering their Internet domain name. Let's try and figure it out. I'll look into it some more.
I guess it used to have MZhD in the name and then they changed it??? Cached version of their official Club info page from Google
Seems so. so we should use current name. --Monkbel 13:49, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Svisloch[edit]

Pavazhany siabra, when you move pages, please make sure to eliminate double redirects. I could have done this for you, but I don't have a keyboard with all these damned kriuki i chertki. mikka (t) 02:01, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

sorry, fixed. --Monkbel 07:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Śvislač[edit]

When you use such names please try to think that you don't write for yourself and average English reader don't know Belarusian łacinka. --EugeneZelenko 14:20, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

I think. average English reader doesn't know German umlauts or Polish symbols either, but all proper names in Wikipedia are given in local alphabets, rather then in English only, with appliable redirects to them for those who can't write specific symbols. --Monkbel 07:02, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Google seems to show many more hits for Svisloch+Belarus than Svislach+Belarus and many more than Śvisłač+Belarus (roughly 900 to 400 to 40). Also .gov.by uses Svisloch.

Also, our List of cities in Belarus article uses the other transliteration scheme, and some other city articles are titled with it, and incoming links from pages like Minsk link to Svislach. So for consistency I changed it back to Svislach.

One way or another, the transliteration scheme used on Wikipedia should be consistent, and although it's fraught with political implications, it should probably be one that actually more commonly used in English (based on Google or other criteria).

I'd suggest you try the change to Śvisłač and other city names at List of cities in Belarus and Minsk and see what feedback results. If there's general approval, the change to this transliteration scheme could be done globally, and if not there could be a discussion and hopefully some consensus reached. -- Curps 14:56, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

This change is only one step on the way to consistence and global change. As I said before, there is general approval that local geographical names are written in local languages (while it is latin derivative). That's why we shouldn't use google or smth to know that Russian-style transliteration is more popular (it is known, it's just because Russian is more popular), we just should use Belarusian name (fortunately Belarusian has latin version). --Monkbel 15:24, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
An an English speaker and reader, I want to say that not one of the special symbols used in the word Śvisłač makes sense to me. It would be more helpful to me if it was written in a transliteration that uses only Roman symbols I know how to pronounce. I realize this takes away from the true native sound of this name in your language, and probably looks ugly to you, but this is the EN space in Wikipedia and I believe it's an important compromise.
I do agree that a standard would be great, but it is not clear where to draw the line. We could say "use the English 26-letter alphabet only in article names", but some accents have been borrowed into English—particularly from French and Spanish—and are widely used. It would seem strange for me to write repartée as "repartee", or piñata as "pinata".
In the case of Śvisłač, it does make more sense to me to have the name transliterated and have the special characters appear after that name in the first sentence of the article, along with a pronunciation guide to help me out.
Thank you for your good work. —Papayoung
Thank you for your interest. I'm going to add IPA pronunciation scheme and pronunciation sample sound for the most difficult names to help users. --Monkbel 19:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Your RfA[edit]

Hi! In regard to your RfA, first off, let me say that it's nothing personal, you really do seem like a great user. It's just that so much more is expected from an administrator than a regular user, since they are the only ones with the tools of blocking/banning, deletion and page protection. They have to constantly deal with abusive users, they have to be able to resolve conflicts skillfully (using tools such as page protection), and they have to have a thourough understanding of policy. I do think you can handle all these things (you're a monk, for crying out loud!), it's just that I (and many other users) feel that much user interaction is essential for adminship. I don't know of any specific pages to recommend to read, but I do suggest you take an interest in the community discussion pages such as WP:AFD (a HUGE part of adminship is a good understanding of deletion policy), WP:RFC (where most of the current disputes on WP are listed) and the village pump. Show yourself to be a calm, collected user on those pages, and I think you'll be peachy in a couple of months (and a few hundred User and Wikipedia namespace edits).

Ohh, and as for writing articles, continue doing that!!!!! :D It is the heart and blood of wikipedia. gkhan 07:52, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: stress sign?[edit]

could you explain what the need is in "stress signs" (like in "Засла́ўе")? it doesn't look ok for me since it breaks word in parts visually, and makes it unusable for those who doesn't speak Belarusian if they need, for example, copy it and paste somewhere. thanks --Monkbel 07:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

For those who want to learn more (it's encyclopedia at the end :-). People who doesn't will skip Belarusian/Russian anyway. --EugeneZelenko 13:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
hmmm... are you sure such pure linguistic questions as stress should be shown in encyclopaedia? It seems to me it is more a question of dictionary (wiktionary). A lot of languages have variable stress and I didn't see any to use the stress sign or smth.
Original name in encyclopaedia is included to show how to write name locally and it should not be mixed with pronunciation; pronunciation of course could be shown for those who want to learn more, but I think it should be in IPA form (for the whole word). For example, Polish use it - see Białystok and similar pages.
And - another point - what about those who want to learn more, but don't know cyrillics enough to distinguish stress sign from an usual letter? They will probably use this stressed version and will suddenly realise it goes nowhere - for example, it is unsearchable in Google. --Monkbel 14:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
That's odd, because Russian is searchable this way in Google... try it: searching for Пу́шкин will give you hits for Пушкин. It seems odd that the prsence of the one Belarusian letter will hinder this. Google does interesting things sometimes: searching on Serbian Cyrillic will give you hits using the Latin version. -- Curps 16:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I just checked and it seems you are mistaken... only 186 google hits for "Пу́шкин" (all stressed), while 3 900 000 for "Пушкин". --Monkbel 17:27, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
You must be using a different version of Google, or perhaps they detect the user's location and customize differently. When I do this search, I get 6 million hits (Results 1 - 10 of about 6,020,000 for Пу́шкин). -- Curps 18:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Ok, it continues to be more strange :) clicking on your link provides me with 3,770,000 hits (almost 2 times lesser than your number!), while giving me 3,980,000 on "Пушкин" (where are 200,000 gone when googling stress version?). But when I do my search for the same word I get 186 hits....
Ok it seems sometimes (may be, because of interface language selected?) words with stress are googleable. But the question is general - if there are situations in which stressed words are unsearchable (besides my link, other search engines), are "unpasteable" in documents and so on since they simply don't actually show how the word is written in Cyrillics. --Monkbel 19:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
"Unpasteable" is a bit of an exaggeration... just delete the stress mark after pasting the text (after positioning the cursor to the right place). -- Curps 19:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I myself am able to delete this sign as I always know whether it is stress or smth else. But for others it could be puzzling - since apostrophe is important sign in Belarusian language. I don't call to remove stress information at all - I simply propose it to move it to IPA transcription... --Monkbel 19:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Another question - why did you answer at my talk page, not yours one? I am puzzled - should I answer at your page in turn? --Monkbel 14:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
And one more point: when I'm browsing under Windows, Firefox shows me combined letter in place of stressed letter, like á; but when I'm browsing under Linux, Firefox shows letter and stress sign separately, like а́. In such way it is even more unconvinient... --Monkbel 22:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Firefox is displaying erroneously, this is a Unicode combining diacritical mark and should appear over the preceding letter. But it's not so harmful even if it displays separately. -- Curps 22:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for this info, (though it seems it is bug of X Windows or KDE or whatever, but not of Firefox). --Monkbel 22:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I recommend you to create policy proposal for moving stress into IPA transcription and invite all interested parties to vote on this subject.
I think IPA transcription will be useful only if there are any good independent sources to verify it. At least IPA tables for classic/modern spelling. Just to avoid subjective flame wars. IPA transcriptions should be added for all languages, not only Belarusian.
Other policy proposal should be on Belarusian-related article names (English or Belarusian łacinka; classic or modern spelling).
EugeneZelenko 00:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

IPA transcription is probably overkill. Most Cyrillic writing systems are nearly phonetic. It's easy to predict from the spelling what the pronunciation should be, but it's not always easy at all in Slavic languages to predict what syllable is stressed. -- Curps 04:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Ok guys I see your point. It seems it is really not so easy to switch to IPA. So let's stick with stress for now. thanks for your opinions. --Monkbel 08:36, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Your RFA[edit]

You're quite welcome. I'm not sure if it will pass, but I would easily support you again. --Merovingian (t) (c) 17:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, please do reconsider in a few months. With increased user interaction you might find much more support. Dlyons493 Talk 00:56, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you. --Monkbel 06:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Cities COAs from Geraldika.ru[edit]

Please mark all cities COAs from Geraldika.ru with {{Non-free fair use in}}.

Cities COAs are not PD in Belarus. See be:Вікіпэдыя:Дазволы на выкарыстаньне матэрыялаў, Belarus copyrights law, С.Я. Рассадін. А.М. Міхальчанка. Гербы і сцягі гарадоў і раёнаў Беларусі. Мінск. "Беларусь". 2005.

EugeneZelenko 18:42, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No problems, but why did you remove {{Coatofarms}} mention from those COAs? I think it should stay, since it doesn't assert that image is in public domain, it says it is believed that these images may be exhibited on Wikipedia under the fair use provision of United States copyright law; and it helps to categorize COAs. --Monkbel 06:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
{{Coatofarms}} is weak copyrights status, and some people think that this tag is enough for transferring images to Commons. {{fairuse}} is strong copyrights status. --EugeneZelenko 13:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Ok. --Monkbel 20:37, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
If we find the coat of arms from the website of Vector-Images.com, we can tag the images as {{Vector-Images.com}} and cite the exact page where we got the image from. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Monkbel - Thanks for your support on my recent RfA. I really appreciate all the support I received. I'm also glad that you like the project. If you ever are looking for something to do, I'm sure we could put you to work :) --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 05:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

You are welcome :). I can't say I have plenty of tim to contribute to your project, but I hope it will be successful. And congratulations on successful RfA! --Monkbel 18:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Belaruskaya Chyhunka[edit]

Hi, Monkbel. The trouble with "Biełaruskaja Čyhunka", à mon avis, is that however "correct" from a purist point of view this Polish/Czech-looking transliteration may be, it is not that normally used for transcribing Belarusian proper nouns into English. Flawed as the Google test is, Biełaruskaja Čyhunka appears in the findings of that search engine only once -- and that thanks to your own recent modification of the List of railway companies page.

"BCh" is the usual English-language abbreviation for Belarusian Railways. At least we English-speakers are not writing "BZhD" (the official Белорусская Железная Дорога site is, of course, in Russian only...) -- Picapica 22:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Hm... Google search for "Belaruskaya Chyhunka -wikipedia" (which was previous name in that article) has only one hit, and it is also wikipedia mirror. But the main problem is that redirect from BCh already exists, and it doesn't have anything common with railways... it seems that "BCh" is really used in English, but it should be linked only after creating stub or disambig on "BCh", I think. Thanks for your interest, anyway :) --Monkbel 02:54, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Kakà or Kaká[edit]

Sorry, I didn't put that information in the article; you're right, though, whoever did should cite a reference. I moved the article based on the assertion made by another editor. Guess I should have checked it out first. --Russ Blau (talk) 21:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

For what it's worth, the AC Milan website always calls him Kakà in their English news releases, but uses Kaká in the Portuguese releases and on his statistics page. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in Google results, because so many software packages are inconsistent in their treatment of accented characters. What a mess... probably the only way to get a definite answer to this is from the man himself. --Russ Blau (talk) 21:14, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I am from Brazil, like Kaká. Kaká is a Brazilian player with a Brazilian nickname. So, the correct spelling is Kaká. The à is used in Portuguese language only as a crase (which is not the case here). In Italian, à is used to mark final stress. Please, revert the article back to Kaká. The Italian spelling of his name is completely wrong. Regards, Carioca 21:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your helpful note. It seems that article should be reverted. --Monkbel 21:44, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Riga new bridge.jpg[edit]

Hi, Monkbel. Re your message in Hungarian Wikipedia: the pic was uploaded by a newbie who might not know about Commons yet. I uploaded it to Commons, you can find it in the Riga category. regards, Alensha 22:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Smalensk[edit]

Please do not take it from the Smalenks discussion that I am anti-Belarusian in any way. I just want to ensure the consistency of the issue as I explained at talk:Kiev. Thanks, --Irpen 23:04, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Use full nationality name[edit]

Sorry, but I still agree that it should be the writer to decide the most proper way to implement nationalities. And, basically, I must let you note that nothing changes on the page appearance. About the Lokomotiv Moscow article, the team squad has been retrieved from the uefa.com website (where they use 3-letter acronyms, not full nationalities). --Angelo 22:50, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah, another thing: before to implement the new template set, even acronyms were supported (take a look at Template:flagicon if you want know more). What I did is just to make a porting from the old standard to the new one (and, trust me, I have found so many articles which used acronyms). Ciao. --Angelo 22:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Let's go to the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Clubs with this discussion. --Monkbel 06:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Geographic names[edit]

I'm looking for input from Belarusian editors about the geographical naming guidelines that we're trying to create. Would you take a look at the proposals at Wikipedia:Naming conventions/Geographic names (particularly the proposal D version 2) and then possibly leave your constructive :-) comments on the talk page ? Thanks. --Lysy (talk) 00:32, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I'll check this. --Monkbel 08:29, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Maladzechna, etc.[edit]

The following is reposted from Talk:Homyel for discussion here. -- Picapica 08:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

... you're right that Homyel is totally wrong - but according to most systems of Belarusian to Latin script transcription systems, it is Homiel, not Homel (which corresponds to Гомэль, not Гомель). --Monkbel 18:08, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

However, most Belarusian sources give Гомель, not Гомэль. Some examples of Belarusian-language texts including place names:

  • Ужо да пачатку сакавіка фронт знаходзіўся на лініі Орша - Магілёў - Гомель. [[3]]
  • Прадстаўлены наступныя гарады: Бабруйск, Баранавічы, Барысаў, Брэст, Віцебск, Глуск, Гомель, Гродна, Кобрын, Крычаў, Ліда, Лунінец, Магілёў, Маладзечна, Мінск, Навагрудак, Нясвіж, Орша, Пінск, Полацк, Рагачоў, Рэчыца, Свянцяны, Слонім, Слуцк. [[4]]
  • Але, напрыклад, Устава на валокі 1557 г. непасрэдна называе іх «валасцямі Рускімі» і дае пералік: Рэчыца, Мазыр, Бабруйск, Чачэрск, Прапойск, Мсціслаў, Орша, Любеч (зараз на Украіне), Гомель, Глуск, Магілёў, Свіслач, Барысаў, Любашаны, а таксама Полацк. [[5]]

Note, too, "Орша", not "Ворша". I realize that orthographies and practices differ even within Belarus, but it is the Wikipedia convention to start from the most commonly used forms. This applies to the English-language forms of foreign names too: thus, moving Maladzechna (Google 13,900) to Maładečna (54) was very wrong in my view, and what is more your editing out of the fact that Maladzechna is the commonest spelling is counter-encyclopaedic. Wikipedia is not about what any of us would like to be the truth, and should not be made a platform for a wished-for revival of Łacinka. -- Picapica 13:27, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

an RFC[edit]

Hi, Monkbel. Check this out Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ghirlandajo. I think you'll find it interesting. ;) --rydel 17:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

thanks, quite interesting --Monkbel 22:08, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive[edit]

Hi Monkbel,

The Football AID is restarting. The next project article is to be selected on January 1, 2006. Please look at the nominations and take part actively. Thanks. -Aabha (talk) 10:40, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok. --Monkbel 15:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Football AID[edit]

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Alex Hleb[edit]

прывітанне, Monk! Concerning a minor dilemma we're facing at the Finnish wiki, what is the exact name of the skilled Gunners midfielder? Аляксандар Глеб is the title of the article in the Belarus wiki, but in his personal homepage, Alex uses Аляксандр Глеб. So please help! Are both name forms in common use in Belarus? Like in Russian, there's both Dmitri and Dimitri. --Lumijaguaari 23:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting out my changes to his article (must stop working on these late at night). --Vivbaker 11:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem :) --Monk 17:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Daugava/Western Dvina[edit]

Hi, I changed the photo on this to a more seasonal one that I think shows the bridge and skyscraper better. Otherwise pretty similar framing. Hope this is OK with you. -- Blorg 10:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Belarus[edit]

I hope I am going on the right track on this article. I already got the arms and flag of Belarus to Featured Status, so I am trying to work on the trifecta. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday![edit]

User:Nathanrdotcom/Birthday -- 20px Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TalkContribs) 06:04, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Image[edit]

Thanks for supplying the website for Image:NRM.jpg, but you still need a tag indicating copyright status or license (see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for a list) as well as the actual copyright holder. Stan 16:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

FC Molodechno[edit]

Hello Monkbel, I would like to cleanup this article, but I'm having trouble finding information. As you are listed as a follower of Belarusian football on WikiProject Football I wondered if you could help. Looking on RSSSF [6], I can find no FC Molodechno, but a team called FK Maladzechna-2000 is listed as playing at the third level. Is this the same team? Thanks Oldelpaso 11:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

WP:CYR - no lacinka[edit]

I do not quite understand this edit summary rv change unsupported on talk page as the original discussion has been at length analysed at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)#Proposal for Belarusian. A message on Portal:Belarus has been hanging for a month now. Yet only after we recieved no objections, only after we mutually agreed on ending Lacinka (and there were quite a few reasons if you would care to read through the lenghthy section), you break WP rules by reverting an already endorsed rule. I am sorry but I had to revert that. You had a month now to come up with some objections. Молчание знак согласия.

Also please withhold insults about chauvism, better look on the other side, introducing a system which no english language publication uses and having WP be a platform to make it more widespread is a direct violation of WP:NOT particulary the sections on soapbox and original thought. That IMO is more chauvistic than any of my actions put together. --Kuban Cossack Romanov Flag.svg 09:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand your back revert as well. Yes, there was discussion, but there was no consensus. Don't forget NOTHING CAN BECOME A LAW while there no consensus. --Monk 10:23, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
There was consensus on the people involved the notice was up for a month I am not going to sit around and wait for years. Don't like anything start the process anew. Naturally I will oppose it, but the discussion has to be resumed. All of our points are jointly laid out. --Kuban Cossack Romanov Flag.svg 11:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Калі маеце што запярэчыць датычна існасці прапанаванага праекту -- зрабіце гэта, калі ласка. ---Yury Tarasievich 16:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

RfC about Irpen's conduct[edit]

Hi! We filled a request for comment concerning the conduct of User:Irpen. Your comment is kindly invited.--AndriyK 16:52, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Belarus peer review[edit]

I want to attempt to get the article on Belarus fixed up, since now the election has come and gone. I have not touched it much in a while, but I wonder if there is any major issues needed to be discussed. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

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Achievements tables[edit]

Please don't remove achievements tables for track and field athletes. They are in the process of being expanded to include every placement in a final in a major international competition. One possible way to remove it would be to convert all the information into text, but I don't see that coming. Regards, Punkmorten 19:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Examples are Andrei Mikhnevich and Nadzeya Ostapchuk. The idea is to give a better overview of their career. Punkmorten 08:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Inno Setup[edit]

Please put the screenshot of Inno Setup from this website:

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Untagged image[edit]

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Uladzimir Katkouski User:Rydel[edit]

Thank you for posting the sad news about Uladzimir Katkouski. I have added an entry about him at Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians. If you get a chance, please check out the entry for accuracy. Also, is it possible to send me a translation of Вянок памяці: Уладзімер Каткоўскі Аляксандар Лукашук, Прага? Thanks, --Alabamaboy 18:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Supercoppa 2006 win.jpg)[edit]

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merge[edit]

I saw the merge tags you applied recently.

Sorry, you didn't do it right.

  1. One tag should be a {{mergeto}} tag, while the other is a {{mergefrom}}. Used properly, when the tags are instantiated, they direct the reader who wants to discuss the merge to one of the two talk pages. Used improperly, the discuss buttons send readers to two different talk pages.
  2. The tags, when instantiatated, promise the reader that there will be a discussion as to why the articles should be merged. You placed the tag -- it is your job to start the discussion, by explaining why you think it is a good idea.

FWIW, I don't think that there is some overlap between the articles is a valid reason for a merge.

Cheers! Geo Swan 23:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I got your note.
Sorry. You are mistaken. If you place the tag, you have an obligation to initiate the discussion. This is not just my opinion. I asked for confirmation on one of the administrator fora, just a couple of weeks ago. I was told that I did not have an obligation to check with the person who placed the tag -- that if they didn't start the discussion on the talk page, within a reasonable period of time I should feel free to remove the tag.
You said that it was up to the person who was opposed to start the discussion. Well, I am opposed. Where am I supposed to voice this opinion? Until you fix the merge tags leaving a message on a talk page is broken.
So, please:
  1. Fix your use of the tags.
  2. Initiate the discussion on the talk page.
Cheers! Geo Swan 08:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject[edit]

Thought that you would be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Belarus. --Boguslav 17:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Kutuzov Belarus-Slovenia 2005.jpg[edit]

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Crvena Zvezda[edit]

Hi, seeing you have been involved in the previous RM discussion, I thought you might be interested in this one too. BanRay 12:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Привет[edit]

Ты не мог бы перезагрузить эту фото, а то её что-то не видно теперь.

зы. с 23 февраля :) Alæxis¿question? 13:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Да, действительно. У меня глюки значит какие-то были. Alæxis¿question? 20:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


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Happy Birthday (2012)[edit]

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Wishing Monk a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talkabout my edits? 00:31, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Nft[edit]

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An RfC that you may be interested in...[edit]

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