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Sally Hemings[edit]

Thanks for the nomination of the Sally Hemings article and the heads up.Parkwells (talk) 14:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for all your work on this. I added the photo of her grandson, John Wayles Jefferson. Have not been able to work up a family tree; have to learn how to do that.Parkwells (talk) 14:05, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks again, Monkelese, for taking this on and improving the article to gain "Good Article" status, and for doing the DYK. I had worked on it so much at one time and other related Jefferson and Heming articles. And, congrats! - it scored more than 11,000 views on the day the DYK appeared, so I added it to the stats page for articles that get more than 5,000 views. Great to get that history out.Parkwells (talk) 17:50, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sally Hemings[edit]

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Article nomination[edit]

Hi Monkelese - Jefferson-Hemings controversy -Agree with many of the comments but have not had time for overall changes. I noticed issues myself and meant to discuss them with you. One problem is the article is dated; my major part was constructed a few years ago, and related to other arguments going on, all related to this issue, and occurring in several other articles: Thomas Jefferson, Sally Hemings, and related Hemings family articles. There are elements I no longer recognize. The DNA section got muddled because some people apparently want more info about Jefferson's rare haplotype and more info about the Woodson case (I don't recall having it in two sections before, and think the technical details about Jefferson's haplotype can lead into too much of a digression). At one time, there was an entire article on the DNA testing and Jefferson's DNA. The headers "Current position" and "Current scholarship" were an effort at the time to try to show that the historic consensus had changed in the early 21st century (which some people still resist, but that does not mean there was not a consensus established, in which scholars "widely believe" - a term I've seen in other disputes) - thus, "Current position" of major historians. I also wanted to demonstrate, via "Current scholarship" (or some other header) that most scholars were moving beyond that: new scholarship had integrated this information and was going in different directions. But they need more than title changes. Let me see about making a first cut.Parkwells (talk) 16:26, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Yea I agreed on the problems highlighted in the comment after looking at the article again, Good luck with the changes. (Monkelese (talk) 17:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
To gain some insight into the state of discussions on this issue, you could look at the Talk page of Thomas Jefferson and slavery. Parkwells (talk) 20:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank You, I will do so (Monkelese (talk) 00:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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Ashton Kutcher[edit]

Just wanted to say kudos to the recent improvements/expansions you've made. Thank you for those! One thing I should note, though, is that IMDb (the source you used for "awards" section) is not reliable. Not a big deal, though- it should be easily replaceable. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

You are welcome. (Monkelese (talk) 02:11, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Your idea[edit]

Hi. First of all thanks for your good contributions to Wikipedia. I wanted to know your idea about something. Don't you think these articles can be good articles: Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Diana, Princess of Wales, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall and Charles, Prince of Wales? User:DrKiernan thinks that they probably stand a good chance. But of course as he said good articles are determined by editors at WP:GAN though, it isn't restricted to admins. So just tell me what do you think about them? Keivan.fTalk 21:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Yea, I think they could be good articles, if there is a problem, the reviewer might give 7 days till it's fixed which i'm sure can be done, but before nominating these articles, you and even us editors should make sure they are really prepared, you can nominate them, during review I can help. (Monkelese (talk) 01:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
OK. I'll nominate them one by one up to the end of this week. But of course, I'll need your help as I'm very busy at school in real life. Keivan.fTalk 09:28, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
"Remove all titles from other aristocrats or from the article?" Well, when I look at the other articles, I see that most of the time titles are not mentioned in the infobpox. For example the name of Elizabeth II's mother is written "Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon" not "Lady Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon". Or the name of Diana's mother is written Frances Shand Kydd not "The Honourable Frances Ruth Roche". And also I'm not going to remove the titles from the ancestry charts. Keivan.fTalk 05:54, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Using this two articles as an example doesnt mean anything, if they choose not to have their title in their infobox, that's their problem. the countess of Wessex children have their titles attached to them in their.moms info box, her mother's title has remained in the info box and will remain, your.argument is unnecessary, some have titles in their info box, some don't, Camillas article will have her moms title in the article and there is nothing wrong with it (Monkelese (talk) 20:33, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Well, it seems you're interested in having her mother's prefix in the infobox, but I'm interested in removing it. There's no rule and force on Wikipedia. I have come here to solve this problem friendly. And why giving example means nothing? Louise Windsor is a "Lady" not an "Honourable". Her position is different. Even in her article's name, "Lady" is used. Barach Obama and U.S. senators are Honorable too, and many other diplomats and also many children of barons, etc. When I take a look at their articles I see this prefix is poorly used in their infoboxes or not used at all. Their articles' names are also without this prefix, like Rosalind Cubbit. It's similar to add the prefix of "Majesty" or "Royal/Imperial Highness" to the infoboxes of royal families' members. For example changing the name of Charles' mother in his infobox from Elizabeth II to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II which is not usual in Wikipedia. Keivan.fTalk 12:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm really happy that this problem is now solved. Keivan.fTalk 18:12, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
What's your problem? Or actually what's your problem with me? At first I saw you as a person who I can share my opinions with and also discuss some matters. But now I see you're not such person. You think that because you have created an article, you're the owner of it and also you prevent from discussing the matter here, and you like the article's material be in the way you like. You just undid my edits on Camilla's article and at last we saw that you were wrong. Now, without a clear reason you undid my edit on Cubitt's article. There's a "Hon." before her name in the lead. So stop undoing my edits because I don't want to get in an edit war with you. However I doubt that you answer here. Keivan.fTalk 16:32, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Are you afraid of talking? Do you think of what you're saying? Because I changed the lead section now I can't turn it back to the first situation? Maybe you're waiting for an Excusing? "Sorry, I made a mistake". Happy now? Keivan.fTalk 16:44, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
We can discuss this here, it will be better instead of reverting. No need to be angry about it, different editors have edited the article, I don't think it's mine, i watch over it to make sure it's isn't vandalised or rewritten incorrectly (watchlist). My problem i have with this is, at first you removed the hon from the lead and info box, i figured then it was the wrong way of writing it, i looked at other aristocratic articles on wiki, and saw how it was written and wrote it that way. I showed you a link of Unity Mitford article. then you rewrite it back by adding the hon because you didn't like what i wrote (so basically the previous version, here is your edit by the way which you removed the hon for the lead), which means you just removed it at first for no reason. leave it as it is now, as the Unity Mitford's article, that is how it is written. (Monkelese (talk) 16:58, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
By the way, i'm not afraid of anything...again why change it back after you removed it? (as you said the Hon should be before the name, yet you removed it at first), sounds to me like you didn't like how i wrote it like other aristocratic or peerage articles, overall you know nothing of this or not certain of your edits. As i said, this is wikipedia, you can't remove something because you don't like it, however, you can remove something because it is wrong or rewritten incorrectly. (Monkelese (talk) 17:06, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
One more thing, I did not create the article. Get your facts straight. (Monkelese (talk) 20:04, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Well, I was so angry at first. Sorry. I should say that I just want any article to be in a perfect shape. I have been for 3 years on Wikipedia and I don't edit articles for my self-interests, so undoing your edit doesn't mean that I didn't like your edit or something like this. Actually giving only Unity Mitford as an example doesn't mean anything, because we should be sure that majority of articles which are about the Hons. have lead sections like this. Because of that I undid your edit (and also mines) to turn the article to its first form and then after a discussion we could decide which type of writing is good for the lead section. If most of the articles about the Hons. are written like this, so revert my edit to your last change. Also, I wanted to move Rosalind Cubitt to Rosalind Shand. She was a married woman and never divorced her husband. She also used her husband's surname. An example is her daughter Annabel Elliot who use her husband's surname except of her birth surname Shand. Please tell your opinions about this moving to me so we couldn't have any problem again. Keivan.fTalk 21:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Also it doesn't matter who created the article. I mentioned that because it seemed to me that you're creator of the article as you were so interested in editing it. Keivan.fTalk 21:14, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
About moving the article, i never really thought of it, Laura's article was also moved from Laura lopes to Laura Parker Bowles by an editor recently, I don't think it matters really, but I guess since Rosalind took his last name and married him till death, it can be moved..its your choice. (Monkelese (talk) 22:06, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Anthony Berry was also an "Honourable" but its lead section is not similar to Unity Mitford. As I said most of the times there's no special rule for the form of the first sentence. So the previous form of Rosalind's article can be correct too. I'll also talk with DrKiernan about Laura's article. Keivan.fTalk 22:11, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Also I wanted to nominate those articles as Good Articles but I'm really busy at school so I didn't have time to nominate them. When I became free I'll nominate them and also ask you for helping me. Again sorry for what happened today. But please continue discussing about the form of the first sentence as it seems not all "Hons." have the same lead section. Keivan.fTalk 22:41, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
It's good all is well now, i will indeed help you when you nominate the articles and their picked up for review, one thing, if you could also add a signature to the Prince of Wales and Prince Philip's article, it will be really good. (Monkelese (talk) 22:47, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
I am searching to find good versions of Prince Philip, Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and the Countess of Wessex's signatures. I'll add them to their articles as soon as possible. Keivan.fTalk 08:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Found Charles signature on this website, looks pretty good, http://www.britroyals.com/family.asp?id=charles

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