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Hello, Morgengave, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Cnilep (talk) 12:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I can't add much beyond Cnilep's welcome, except to mention that there's a Scottish "WikiProject" which you might be interested in joining. Also, given your interest in Modern Scots I should mention that there's a Scots Wikipedia as well as this English one (I edit here at the English one, mostly, because my Scots is nae guid...) Anyway, welcome! TFOWR 12:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


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Aramidae (talk) 01:28, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Belgian[edit]

If you are convinced that Belgian should be a disambiguation page, then as suggested at WP:FIXDABLINKS it would be appreciated if you would help fix all of the 1,200 or so misdirected links contained in other Wikipedia articles as a result of this change. Thank you. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Community - Federation[edit]

I reverted your edit although I agree with what you say, but I think you should refrain doing this, as it doesn't have much sense as long as the title and the intro are saying something else. There is no urgency, let's not start an edit war and talk like adults in the talk page ;-) I have put a message on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Belgium to see if other interested persons can help in the discussion. Asavaa (talk) 13:09, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

It's unpolite and unconstructive to make changes to the article on an issue that's still being discussed, is it not? That's what "Ultimate Destiny" did. Normally, such edits are frowned upon and reversed until a consensus is reached on the talk page. Morgengave (talk) 13:26, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, you're right, I did not notice that he made the change after the discussion started in the talk page. Sorry about this. But now, I propose you to leave it as is while the discussion happens. It isn't that important as in any case the title and the intro are refering to the federation, it seems more important to avoid an edit war. But I agree he sort of started it. Asavaa (talk) 13:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Two sets of rules will become apparent very shortly if you attempt to edit resolve any bias. You require a few sock puppets to praise yourself up before being "allowed" any respect. Yup, you lose! Too bad! 99.251.114.120 (talk) 02:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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NATO missile defence[edit]

Hi Morgengave, just wanted to start a discussion about the location of the missile defence subsection on the NATO article. When I reorganized the article last year by moving the various history topics on the Balkans and Middle East wars into their own section, I also chose to leave the Missle defence subsection as part of "History". However, the more I've worked on the "Post Cold War" section, the more Missile defence stood out, both because of its more recent timeline and because of its level of detail. So while it may not be a foreign intervention like NATO's involvement in Bosnia or Kosovo, it is an "operation" that is "military" in nature. When I named the "Military operations" section, I didn't intend "operations" to indicate only NATO missions with the word "operations" in them, but more as a way of keeping the History section focused on the political and intergovernmental side of NATO.-- Patrick, oѺ 20:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Patrickneil, I understand that the weight in the history section was perhaps a bit heavy (the same can be said, in hindsight, from France's temporary withdrawal from NATO's command structure). At the same time, missile defense is clearly different from a "military operation", or it at least does not correspond with the usual meaning [1] that is attached to this term. Missile defense is in fact an expansion of NATO's tasks and could result into a long term redefinition of NATO's role (an operation implies a more temporary or "ending" nature). Furthermore, the project is still under development and will remain so for a very long time, has major technical and political components, and may - due to its complexity and costs - perhaps never see military operationality. All these reasons taken together, I am certain that the current separate stand-alone section for missile defense is more appropriate than inclusion under the "military operations" section. Morgengave (talk) 20:41, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Actually, how would you like to be involved in a separate NATO missile defence system article? I've split the growing section off in order to work more on the different stages of its history. My first concern is the title "NATO missile defence system". This system doesn't have a specific name as far as I can tell. Also, the U.S. spelling of "defense" vs. the U.K. "defence" should be discussed. Thoughts?-- Patrick, oѺ 21:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Sure, just tell me where specifically you could use a hand. I am not a NATO expert though - my primary interests and knowledge are more related to linguistics. I think "NATO missile defence system" is a good title. NATO already has limited missile defence capabilities, so the title is appropriate even if the extensive missile defence is still only in a planning phase. I think the official name of the extensive NATO program is the "Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence". This name could also be used as a title. The unclarity here for me is that there are a lot of programs and I am not sure whether this name encapsulates all; perhaps it's even better to talk of a "NATO missile defence system architecture". It's more a bringing together of national capabilities (possibly also from non-NATO states) and combining them with an overarching NATO system to form one architecture. Using google as a reference, "NATO missile defence system" is slightly more popular than the "Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence". PS: The spelling "defence" and "organisation" should be preferred in this case, as NATO's working language is (besides French) British English - meaning that all NATO names and documents are in BrE. As a consequence, we adhere to the British spelling in all NATO articles. Morgengave (talk) 21:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
By the way, the set-up of the very expensive "missile defense" is an important NATO topic. I would prefer to keep it, in a shortened form, in the NATO article. Morgengave (talk) 22:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Absolutely, I have 3.5 sentences at the end of the History section on missile defence there now. I'm reading up on "Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence" and realizing there's a lot more to include in an article like this, that never got added to the old section.-- Patrick, oѺ 21:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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