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Proposal to delete Federal taxation in the United States[edit]

I have tagged the article Federal taxation in the United States as proposed for deletion, as previously noted. Your prior discussions with User:Int21h indicate that most of the article was copied by him from Taxation in the United States. While I agree that the topic is of sufficient length and notability that it could be a separate article, I believe the needs of the community are better served with a single article. Further, trying to maintain two high level articles, one of which is merely a subset of the other, will impose too great an editing burden and lead to many errors and contradictions. I believe the Federal taxation article should be no more than a redirect to Taxation in the United States. Comments welcome on my talk page or the Federal tax article talk page. Thanks. Oldtaxguy (talk) 23:03, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject United States[edit]

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...only 4 years late......cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Much appreciated! Oldtaxguy (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Linder pic caption suggestion[edit]

The Linder picture on the FairTax page, I believe, is from 2007 and shows Linder with the FairTax and the 2007 tax code, yet the caption says "current" tax code, ("Rep John Linder holding the 133 page Fair Tax Act in contrast to the current U.S. tax code.") making it dated and inaccurate.

I would suggest perhaps adjusting it to something like this: "Rep John Linder holding the 133 page Fair Tax Act in contrast to the then-current 2007 U.S. tax code." or "Rep John Linder in 2007 holding the 133 page Fair Tax Act in contrast to the annually growing U.S. tax code."

As you are someone so knowledgable on the article, I thought I'd throw that out to you because this is something that strikes me every time I look at it. Thanks! Pbgiv (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I updated taking a bit from each suggestion. I used then-current and added 2007 to the bill version Fair Tax Act of 2007, since I'm not sure if it is still 133 pages (they made a few tweaks in 2009 & 2011). Morphh (talk) 02:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
The Linder picture is very deceptive. The "then-current tax code" is the two maroon volumes on which Mr. Linder is resting the pages he's holding. I don't know what the blue volumes beside him are, other than maybe an attempt to make the reader believe they are the current state of the law. I strongly favor removing this photo as inherently very biased. Oldtaxguy (talk) 20:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
That would be the complete set of Title 26 of the US Code of Federal Regulations (that's the part written by the IRS), which make up twenty volumes. I'll adjust the caption. Morphh (talk) 23:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Nomination as a United States Wikipedians' Collaboration of the Month candidate[edit]

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Article feedback[edit]

You might want to chime in at WP:VPP#Disable Article Feedback Tool and Discuss but I'm pessimistic about any chances of slowing this down until things start to go wrong, and even then who knows? Dougweller (talk) 06:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks, always nice to get a barnstar. :) Morphh (talk) 03:22, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Revenuereform.jpg[edit]

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Nomination as a United States Wikipedians' Collaboration of the Month candidate[edit]

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December 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States[edit]

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January 2012 Newsletter for WikiProject United States and supported projects[edit]

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January 2012 USCOTM - The Star-Spangled Banner[edit]

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Nomination of Leon Panetta as a United States Wikipedians' Collaboration of the Month candidate[edit]

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MOTDs (This space for rent)[edit]

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WP:NOTFORUM - Forward![edit]

You are, of course, quite correct. As a historian in Wisconsin (birthplace of the actual Republican Party (R.I.P.) I am simply amazed and annoyed at the pathetic efforts by the paid liars of the chattering classes to taint my state's motto as evidence of communism, as part of their effort to brand the mealy-mouthed Eisenhower Republicanism of the Obama administration as the work of Stalin's minions (with a side order of guilt-by-association with the Hitler Youth). Sadly, my annoyance leads me to attempt to actually teach them some history, undoubtedly a futile gesture. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, it's certainly easy to get side tracked on such issues. I find the back and forth quite annoying and pathetic as well, but it is what it is I guess - politics as usual. Morphh (talk) 20:46, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Obama Controversies Not Mentioned[edit]

If you want some points that have been getting kept out of the Obama article for years, controversies they don't want mentioned no matter how prominent, here are some examples.

  • Opposed medical care for newborn infants, was a major issue in both the 2004 and 2008 elections and brought up by Alan Keyes, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain. Newt Gingrich brought it up in 2012. I've written this page covering it, which includes 50 prominent sources. Some major sources include:[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]
  • Disqualified all four opponents in first election, in 1996, so he could run unopposed. He used a team of lawyers to disqualify the petition signatures of opponents on technicalities after the filing deadline. I've written this section covering it. Some major sources include:[8][9][10][11][12]
  • Struck a deal with Illinois Senate leader to get all legislation from other Illinois Senators directed to his desk in 2003, building his entire legislative record in one year, in preparation for the 2004 elections so he could become a U.S. Senator. I've written this page covering it. Some major sources include:[13][14][15][16][17][18]

--98.220.198.49 (talk) 08:49, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't say that I'm interested in getting involved with inserting contentious material into hot topic articles. I'm not looking to target inserting criticism. I evaluate each piece of content on its own merits based on the encyclopedia's policy. So I could just as easily argue against inserting such content depending on the arguments and sources presented in discussion. It looks like you've done some work though, so I encourage you to create an account and present this on the appropriate article's talk page if you think it necessary content for an encyclopedia article. Morphh (talk) 12:47, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the input, Morphh. It may be stretching things to call those edits 'good faith', but your point is well taken.JoelWhy (talk) 19:56, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

RE[edit]

I replied to your comment on my talk page. I don't know how this works, whether you get a notification of my reply or not, therefore I am leaving this message. - 173.74.164.212 (talk) 06:40, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

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War on Women: "redefining rape"[edit]

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion[edit]

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This is a courtesy heads-up for you. I'm adding everybody who worked on the article since I have. Belchfire-TALK 02:28, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tax chart[edit]

Moving this back to the other talk page to keep the discussion in one place...

I've replied further at User talk:Cupco#Tax chart. —Cupco 21:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Graphs[edit]

Which specific graphs do you think don't improve the articles? And what pattern are you talking about? I've been adding graphs in several different topics, none of which I have any COI or work interest in. —Cupco 19:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:Cupco's talk. Morphh (talk) 21:16, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Freedom of speech = New WikiProject[edit]

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Reynolds American[edit]

Hello. I have some basic factual edit suggestions for the Reynolds American article I posted on the article’s talk page. I am an employee of the company and I am therefore just suggesting edits due to my WP:COI. I saw you are a member of the North Carolina WikiProject and so I was wondering if you could take a look at the proposed edits and implement them if you deem them appropriate? Thanks. Velinflo (talk) 16:14, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Please disregard; already handled by another editor. Thanks. Velinflo (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries Seattle[edit]

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question about dynamic scoring edits[edit]

Hi Morphh,


You contend that my edits to the dynamic scoring page present an incorrect premise. Can you please clarify? The premise I added (lower taxes increase economic growth and subsequently tax receipts) is exactly what conservative leaders are arguing for to restore the economy. Are they wrong?


I feel that this article lacks balance and is skewed to promote conservative fiscal ideology. I was attempting to add a little balance by providing historical and factual data refuting that philosophy.


best wishes,

trappem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trappem (talkcontribs) 20:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

This article is not the article to debate supply-side economics and the effects of a particular policy choice. Dynamic scoring is simply considering the economic effects of policy when scoring the plan, be it good, bad, or otherwise. Taxation has economic disturbance - dynamic scoring attempts to measure that disturbance. The article states that conservatives promote dynamic scoring as common methodologies factor lower taxes return higher benefits in terms of GDP growth and provide revenue increases over static scoring - this is a true statement. There is no need to include the premise, which is WP:OR as opinions differ depending on what conservative your talking about or liberal for that matter (as they too argue that tax increases hurt economic growth) and what income or policy your discussing (tax increases on the middle class, business owners, "the rich"?). The second portion is also vague - increased revenue over what... static scoring or prior revenues? And of course the rebuttal conclusion is extreme and very weakly supported by the sources. All things equal, 75% marginal tax rates will not boost GDP - there is no causality in these historical figures and it goes against all empirical evidence (U.S. and Global). I'm fine with trying to add balance, but let's not turn this article into a debate on tax policy and the vast opinions regarding it's effects. Morphh (talk) 21:24, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation...t — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trappem (talkcontribs) 22:13, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:TaxationCOTM[edit]

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Help with Sales taxes in the United States article[edit]

Hi Morphh, I'm an employee of The Heritage Foundation and I'm looking for help with a request I posted a little while ago on the Sales taxes in the United States talk page. I'm looking to add a new section to this article about sales taxes on the Internet, but I would like other editors to review what I have written because I've mentioned some criticism from The Heritage Foundation (about the recent Marketplace Fairness Act) in the section. I see that you are a member of WikiProject Taxation and thought you might be interested in looking at this. If you'd like to help out, the request is on the article's talk page here. Thanks! Thurmant (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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Off-topic[edit]

"99.9%" of people supporting criminalization of homosexuality in 1990 isn't quite on. By that point, states which still had sodomy laws on the books were in a minority. The USA is backward, but not apparently that backward. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 19:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Ya, I was being facetious in making a point. I don't have any statistic on it. Morphh (talk) 20:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't know what the opinion statistic would be either. I don't think the "lots of people supported criminalization back then" is relevant either way, since it's Card's support that is controversial, not anyone else's; I just took the off-topic discussion here since I wasn't sure you knew that most states had actually already repealed their sodomy laws before Lawrence. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:18, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Genealogy and Family History merger[edit]

Hi, this merger has been spotlighted on FamilySearch Blog: https://familysearch.org/blog/en/difference-genealogy-family-history/ . Hope I did OK explaining it to the public. Murphynw (talk) 02:37, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree with your comments. I don't understand the purpose of trying to parce differences between "genealogy" and "family history." It looks like picking one over the other is largely a regional difference in English. It looks like each country has it's own bizarre history of bouncing back between one or the other. If I've understand the comments correctly, in the UK, Australia, and New Zealand, “family history” is the preferred verbiage. In the United States, Mormons (members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) also prefer to call the endeavor “family history,” but people who are not Mormons prefer “genealogy.” But overall, it's clearly "genealogy" that is most recognizable according to the studies I've seen. LOL Murphynw (talk) 22:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

For the barnstar. I also really appreciate your efforts to meet me halfway and find solutions we can both agree on. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 02:59, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I don't think you get enough credit for your attempts at following WP core principles on the War on Women article. Good job for a thankless task. Arzel (talk) 14:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Advice[edit]

Walter Brooke in the movie The Graduate had one word of advice: "Plastics". – S. Rich (talk) 17:59, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) I needed that. Morphh (talk) 18:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Nrcprm2026 SPI[edit]

I think you need to revert your recent archival[19] of this case. You do not appeared to have considered or evaluated the behavioural evidence at play, which I think needs to happen before the investigation can be closed (notwithstanding that I declined to provide technical evidence). This is unless you actually have looked at the behaviour of the two accounts, in which case you need to state this fact on the investigation, or unless I have missed something, in which case you need to WP:TROUT me :-). Thanks, AGK [•] 22:39, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Progressive tax[edit]

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Progressivism & education & taxes[edit]

While what you say has merit, I think omitting remarks about editor behavior is the best course of action. Perhaps an WP:RFC/U is in order. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 19:05, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

@Srich32977: You're probably right - just frustrating. And yes, RFC/U or ANI (recommend topic ban as related to economic inequality) would be a good next step. I'm not really familiar with starting either one though. Morphh (talk) 20:08, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps we should have an RFC/U on editors who plan actions against others without informing them they are being discussed. EllenCT (talk) 23:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I recall that you actually did file an ANI without notifying me. Me responding to a post on my talk page about another editor's behavior is not something that I think requires notification. Morphh (talk) 23:37, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Morph, I appreciate your attempts on the article talk pages, but I don't think EllenCT is misunderstanding what's logically required. My suspicion is that she see this as her mission to provide a counterpoint to conservative perspectives and wants to push certain conclusions she has, even if there's no direct support for it. You've laid out the logical gap, but she ignores simple direct requests and refers to irrelevant sources as her justification. I'm at my end trying to reason with her tendentious editing.Mattnad (talk) 16:25, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

@Mattnad: I agree that she should be fully aware of the issues and policy by now - it's a reoccurring theme. She's tried to create several straw men, so I just wanted to lay it out directly, maybe more for anyone else that reads the discussion later. I didn't want others falling for the logical fallacy. Morphh (talk) 18:05, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Replacement of "progressive" with "redistributive"[edit]

If I remember correctly, at least two times and likely more in the past week or two you have replaced text and links referring to "progressive" and similar terms with other terms referring to "redistributive", after having asked for the original terms to be included because, as you pointed out, progressive taxes don't increase income equality unless they are accompanied by progressive transfer payments. However, transfer payment redistributions can and do also occur from the poor to the rich, both through government fiscal policy, government monetary policy and private sector rent-seeking. Since "redistributive" policies can be regressive instead of progressive, would you please undo those edits? EllenCT (talk) 11:04, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I think you mistaking me with someone else, as I don't recall saying that "progressive taxes don't increase income equality unless they are accompanied by progressive transfer payments". Ignoring dynamic effects, even if the government just burned the money, the taxation itself would reduce income inequality. No transfer payments are necessary, but I probably asked for inclusion of mentioning progressive spending because it's what is done. Since many people might not be aware of what "progressive spending" is (it's sort of a neologism and not a common term to the general public) and perhaps confuse it with spending tied to a political philosophy and not a distribution method, I thought the term redistributive spending was a more familiar for readers that said essentially the same thing. I agree that the term redistribution could go both ways, but given the context of the section and sentence "and social safety nets result" along with the common use of the term to the general public, rich to poor is implied/assumed. It doesn't matter much to me though and I'll undo it on Progressive tax (not sure which other article you're thinking), I was just trying to clarify it for the average reader following WP:TECHNICAL, which says "Every reasonable attempt should be made to ensure that material is presented in the most widely understandable manner possible. If an article is written in a highly technical manner, but the material permits a more understandable explanation, then editors are strongly encouraged to rewrite it." Perhaps we could find a better wording like the phrasing we use on the income inequality article "in a more equal distribution of income across the board." Morphh (talk) 13:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
I noted the change on the Progressive tax article. In the context of that sentence, it's more than clear that redistribution means from wealthier to poorer households. However, Ellen's comment is something to be celebrated. Here she acknowledges that progressive spending does not have to follow progressive taxation - something she would not consider in the RFC and related discussions about the graph that juxtaposed top marginal tax rates and economic growth. Mattnad (talk) 14:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Fair Tax[edit]

Thanks for addressing my request! Have there been any recent proposals regarding a flat tax? Cmckain (talk) 00:37, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

@Cmckain: There are many organizations and politicians calling for various flat tax proposals in the United States, but here are a few bills that are in the 113th Congress: H.R. 1040, H.R. 1569, H.R. 259, S. 173. I believe HR1040 is the traditional Armey / Forbes Hall–Rabushka flat tax (aka Freedom Flat Tax, aka Freedom and Fairness Restoration Act). I think HR1569 (New Fair Deal) is a new proposal, which I recall is being promoted by FreedomWorks. Morphh (talk) 15:16, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Request for suggestion[edit]

Hi there, Morphh, I hope you're doing well !

I noticed you reverted another user's edits to the article I brought to WP:GA quality, Beck v. Eiland-Hall.

Perhaps you could suggest alternate wording to describe the argumentation style of the commentator, which would be to your satisfaction?

Perhaps something like, "asks guests to disprove an imagined assertion", or something like that?

Or maybe we should just leave the lede intro sect as it is right now, in its present WP:GA quality version?

Thank you for your interest helping to further improve the quality of this WP:GA rated article,

Cirt (talk) 19:07, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

@Cirt:, I'll try to think about how to reword it, but it may be difficult for the lead and perhaps best to leave it out. It would need to be both brief and neutral, and using a short out-of-context sound bite would be difficult. In addition, there would need to be proper phrasing that the example represents a point of view regarding the argument style. Morphh (talk) 19:42, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
If you could suggest some sample text to maybe use to add to lede, that'd be appreciated, otherwise, I'm fine leaving the current lede intro text as is now. — Cirt (talk) 19:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I added a bit that I think addresses the point trying to be made (helping define the commentary style) without getting into the issue of context regarding any specific example. Hope that helps. Morphh (talk) 20:11, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! Agreed. This looks much better. I also like the edit adding the wikilink to Russell's teapot, most fascinating! — Cirt (talk) 03:13, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, and respect to you as well[edit]

Thanks for the note. Yes, I also didn't mean to imply that you were assuming bad faith or anything like that. I like conversations like ours. I probably seem really manic writing as much as I have—this is just one article after all—but the underlying issues do interest me. I probably can't add much more to what I've said, and I'll have to admit that there is no dominating reason to support my principles over yours. Obviously we both agree that we should reflect the current state of scholarship (where it exists), but we don't agree on how best to do that. I have some favoured principles, and, if I'm understanding correctly, you favour a more intuitive, common sense survey of the reliable sources: We can divide up claims into "subjective" vs. "objective" by use of our common sense. I saw your recent question on the NPOV talk page. I think if you go through the discussions in the archives (say from 2010 onwards to the end of 2012), you can see that our debate has taken various guises: Most editors have this sense of what it means for something to be subjective vs. objective (sometimes they use other terms for this as well), and many of these think that this is very useful for determining how we assert statements. But then many others disagree. I guess ours is just another chapter in this unsettled matter. I completely respect your manner of discussion and your fundamental positions. --Atethnekos (DiscussionContributions) 21:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Others comments[edit]

Hi, I have no objection to the way you tweaked my comment at the Neutralzone, and I'm not miffed just passing on an FYI.... it probably should have run it by me first. As I said, I'm not mad and the change is fine (I officially approve), just don't want you to step on procedural landmine when tweaking someone else's remarks. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:23, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

User talk:NewsAndEventsGuy, I'm not understanding. If I tweaked any of your comments, I'm not aware of it - it was not intentional (perhaps an edit conflict). Could you point me to what you're talking about? Morphh (talk) 18:32, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
I should have mentioned it was probably just an oversight. Anyway see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3ANeutral_point_of_view&diff=601451635&oldid=601426930 this series of edits]. Like I said, it was a helpful change & I wish I had thought of it myself, so no harm done! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 19:19, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh ya, understanding you now. Thanks - good point. I thought it would be better to improve the existing quotebox than write it again. :) Morphh (talk) 19:29, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks - will do. If you can set the expiration now, I will no longer require the exemption after May 2014, so 1 June 2014 would be fine. Morphh (talk) 22:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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EllenCT suggests you be banned until you understand Wikipedia[edit]

[20] So perhaps we should get studying. There may be a test later. Capitalismojo (talk) 00:05, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Thanks for the laugh; Iselilja (talk) 01:51, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Yup - though I should know them pretty good by now, being that I've been here for almost 9 years and I help write some of them. Still writing some of them.. Morphh (talk) 02:02, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm a bit new to Wikipedia myself, at 8 years. I think I need some schoolin' Mattnad (talk) 03:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, clearly. I too have begun a period of intense study and reflection. Thank heavens for the wonderful guidance with which we have been blessed! Whatever did we do before this? Trapped in the false consciousness of right-deviationism no doubt. Capitalismojo (talk) 03:57, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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Georgism[edit]

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Wrong article[edit]

Thanks for that. I get lost in all of the POV pushing that's been going on. Updated comment.Mattnad (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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Your revert[edit]

I implemented the July 2014 consensus. The fact that a current active discussion wants to review that consensus, is a contra-indication to apply reverts either way. --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:08, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

The prior version represented a long established consensus of a policy (see WP:CONLEVEL), which typically requires higher standard of participation and consensus for changes. The July 2014 link did not contain such participation or discussion on the merits of the change. Not saying you did anything wrong with adding it, but now that an objection has been raised, it would be better to fall back to the long established consensus while this new addition is considered (now that it has participation and discussions on the merits). Morphh (talk) 16:27, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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